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AgentOfAllah:
Are you serious mate? What do you know about the Higgs boson? Wow! I'm astounded!!

Which allah are you an agent to, or are you just impersonating? If truly you are an agent of allah, muslims believe allah is God. Then why are doubting the existence of God?

Even if I don't know, is that article you read my making? Or are you saying those scientists' you read of don't know Higgs boson?

You must be one of the quacks I think.

jayriginal:
You mean like titling his article "Scientific Proof That God Exists" and then in same article stating that God is beyond human experiments?

How do you reconcile that?

Yes, God is beyond human experiments but study shows that there is a 'cause' for the Universe and the Bible says it is God. Prophets after prophets spoke about this God, who heard Him speak. He took the Israelites out of Egypt by His power. He destroyed Pharao in the Red Sea. This is in history and both countries are there till date. Jesus came to this world, spoke of Him, the history is there. Why else do you need to believe. Your unbelief does not change anything.

Blakjewelry:
This what happens when you put a science thread on religious section

There is need to put a science thread on religious section as atheists don't believe anything of the spirit, yet they keep parading the section.

finofaya:
I'm trying to tell you that scientists don't call it the God particle. They call it the Higgs particle or Higgs boson.

This is an extract from the article:

But extensive testing has proved that the Higgs-like particle also behaves like the elusive God particle, which is linked to the mechanism that gives mass to elementary particles

What next?

Rilwon:
Then am done with you....



I did'nt dodge anything mr. man , I dont expect a stiffnecked gainsayer to accept it, rather to clear up your lies in the OP I believe any honest person reading it will see that your claims have been refuted.

You and moses can continue celebrating your delusions.

have a nice day

Since your false fabrications have been faulted, I know there can be no more hidding places for you again.

Note that you dodged those verses before and even now, they are still waiting for you in the future.

Allah saying the earlier Scriptures are corrupted and still referring to them for decisions amounts to inconsistency.

Rilwon:
Have you accept my point here that you are ignorant?





Have you accept my rebuttal to other points and you are left with the three above?

Does it appear to you that I have accepted your rebuttals?

I discovered you dodged the latest, that is why I brought them up again. Don't attach any conditions that are not related to the verses.

macof:
Can u tell us a few things u know abt Higgs particle? Don't copy nd paste..

What is wrong with copying and pasting as I gave the link for all to see?

If you have a different knowledge, say it.

Rilwon:
Then how do you correlate this^^ with your earlier point that "God plan is for the wicked to ask for forgiveness"

Was ahab allowed to ask for for forgiveness?



Yahwwh himself approved the mission 2Ch 18:21 And he said, 'I will go forth, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said, You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go forth and do so. '

This indicate that the spirit was working for YahWeh and no other person, is'nt?

This is a distraction, keep to the topic of the threat.

Rilwon

Oyaa say another thing

This your quran should be a concern to you muslims. Why is the story of Pharao's destruction so important to allah to the extent of referring Muhammad to the readers of the earlier Scriptures? Why did he not refer him to the wonderful works God did through Jesus Disciples?

So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.

I insist that the fact that allah referred Muhammad to the earlier Scriptures (without your fabricated conditions attached), points to the truth that the Scripture is genuine.

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath
delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers
(Quran 5:43). Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people
turned away from it according to Allah.

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso jugeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47). The Gospel was also valid for judgment
at Muhammad's time and till date.

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless
ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord
(Quran 5:71). How could Allah say Jew and Christian should standfast by the Law and Gospel if they
have been corrupted?

I think I have to point out that allah failed to mention the honest people of the Scriptures who were reciting the Book of Allah that was not in existence at that time. I also want to put it to you that no part of the earlier Scripture was to be committed to memory as they were written documents, unlike the quran that was to be memorized. The quran was not in a book form at the time of Muhammad, his jihadists committed them to memory and many were lost when some of them died in war, making the quran an incomplete revelation.

malvisguy212:
I copy and paste the verses because I know them,or is there law on nairaland not to reply copy and paste verses?

You say the verse was talking about the honest Christians but the verse actually say otherwise"PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" some say "ASK THE FOLLOWERS" not ask the honest Christians as you put it.

Don't mind him. Where does he get his bible and quranic verses other than islamic sites? Smh!

He thought he could come here to present fabricated lies as rebuttal.

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Rilwon:
Ol boy, I don suffer enough ban for this side. mods just dey ban me anyhow, lastweek my rilwayne account was banned for 3weeks.

You should be banned over and over again because of the puerile and abuse manner you present issues.

Rilwon:
@Truthman2012 aka my in law , i don't need to reply your off point rebuttal, I coud'nt help but laugh at your ignorance after reading your claim that the preceding of your first point was not talking about Pharao but Jonah because the Surah itself was named after Jonah LMAO..this further show that you don't go through what you copy and paste here for us, and you don't have a copy of a Quran as you claim on a thread.

I believe any honest individual reading my rebuttal to your OP and reading your response will determine who is really on point.. I have to be gentle now, I dont want tis' mod to ban me again.

@Moses aka malvisguy212 aka Mr. C&P , hmmmm, your usual act of a gainsayer copy and paste.. ol boy your own case is far worse than that of trutman, I always know when to reply you and when not to. So whenever you start to show cognisance to issue on point without copying and pasting of irrelevant posts, maybe I will start taking you serious then.

@brocab....I don't know you and the nonsense you wrote is not an issue base on this thread. so carry your moro.nity away from here.

Make i dey watch b4 dis mod sama me ban again

Trash, quote the Pharao out in that chapter.

johnydon22:
lmao ur emotional ladened speechs always makes me wanna cry...the scientists discovered a particle and you now say they discovered a part of ur god...are you for real?...WTF....Since that part of him is merely a particle then it means it is just a particle...mehn chai... anyways shaa

The particle is not God but created by God, hence the name God Particle

finofaya:
They may have quoted other things, but they did not quote "God Particle". That one is their own contribution to the research.

The media is not a religious body, just as you are not a religious body (not literally anyway). They used God Particle because its catchier and more sellable.

I can only define God Particle as the popular name for the Higgs Boson. I can't state what God has to do with it, since I don't see what God has to do with it.

I thought the people on this thread were criticizing not the boson itself but the conclusion that the discovery of the Higgs Boson amounts to the discovery of God. If you don't want to hear from them either way you can even read what science, not the media, thinks of the particle.

There is no reason why the media have to add anything, not even for sale. It is only an assumption of yours that they added God to it.

The particle is not God but the creation of God. The scientists knew it was only God that could create that thing you saw in the picture and that is why they name it 'God Particle'

finofaya:
truthman2012 you are missing the point. The Higgs Boson has nothing to do with God. The name "God Particle" was coined for it by the media. You will agree that the media are not the Nobel prize winner you speak of and that any name they give to the particle is suspect. They are quacks, as you say. You therefore need to find out more abot this particle before you declare it to be God.

They quoted the statements by scientists, who in the course of study arived at Higgs discovery, the Nobel Prize winner.

The media is not a religious body, for what reason would they coin it? Can you define 'God Particle' in your word, stating what God has to do with it?

I mean Higgs' critics on this thread are the quacks.

Horus:
Are you saying that your "god" created the Advanced Learners Dictionary?, yes or no?

Advanced Learners Dictionary is not created but authored. My God created the author.

People are called atheists because they don't believe anything spiritual. What do I expect? Even when science proves that God exists, they still don't believe. They don't believe they too exist.

A reknown and internationally recognized scientist discovered an object, which only God could have done, ordinary quacks who managed to pass their exams in school want to discredit a Nobel Prize winner. What a funny criticism.

I just pray for you guys that the satanic veil covering your eyes be removed in Jesus name. The spirit that make intelligent people do senseless thing be cast out of your brain in Jesus name.

johnydon22:
WTF...how am i really supposed to talk science with this guy......**signs** its futile... am done

Are you the one talking or you copied and pasted? You a quack my friend.

johnydon22:
Read about higgs particle popularly called The god particle
The Higgs boson or Higgs particle is an elementary particle in the
Standard Model of particle physics. Its main relevance is that it allows
scientists to explore the Higgs field[6][7] – a fundamental field first
suspected to exist in the 1960s that unlike the more familiar
electromagnetic field cannot be "turned off", but instead takes a non-zero
constant value almost everywhere. The presence of this field - now
believed to be confirmed - explains why some fundamental particles have
mass even though the symmetries controlling their interactions should
require them to be massless, and also answers several other long-
standing puzzles in physics, such as the reason the weak force has a
much shorter range than the electromagnetic force , and validating whether
the last unverified area of the Standard Model was correct or not.
Despite being present everywhere, the existence of the Higgs field has been
very hard to confirm. It can be detected through its excitations (i.e. Higgs
particles), but these are extremely hard to produce and detect. The
importance of this fundamental question led to a 40 year search for this
elusive particle, and the construction of one of the world's most expensive
and complex experimental facilities to date, CERN 's Large Hadron Collider ,
[8] able to create Higgs bosons and other particles for observation and
study. On 4 July 2012, the discovery of a new particle with a mass
between 125 and 127 GeV/ c 2 was announced; physicists suspected that
it was the Higgs boson. [9][10][11] By March 2013, the particle had been
proven to behave, interact and decay in many of the ways predicted by the
Standard Model, and was also tentatively confirmed to have positive parity
and zero spin , [1] two fundamental attributes of a Higgs boson. This
appears to be the first elementary scalar particle discovered in nature. [12]
More data is needed to know if the discovered particle exactly matches the
predictions of the Standard Model, or whether, as predicted by some
theories, multiple Higgs bosons exist. [3]
The Higgs boson is named after Peter Higgs , one of six physicists who, in
1964 , proposed the mechanism that suggested the existence of such a
particle. Although Higgs's name has come to be associated with this
theory, several researchers between about 1960 and 1972 each
independently developed different parts of it. In mainstream media the
Higgs boson has often been called the "God particle", from a 1993 book on
the topic ; the nickname is strongly disliked by many physicists, including
Higgs, who regard it as inappropriate sensationalism . [13][14] On
December 10, 2013 two of the original researchers, Peter Higgs and
François Englert, were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for their work
and prediction. [15] Englert's co-researcher Robert Brout had died in 2011
and the Nobel Prize is not ordinarily given posthumously .
In the Standard Model, the Higgs particle is a boson with no spin , electric
charge , or colour charge . It is also very unstable, decaying into other
particles almost immediately. It is a quantum excitation of one of the four
components of the Higgs field. The latter constitutes a scalar field, with
two neutral and two electrically charged components, and forms a
complex doublet of the weak isospin SU(2) symmetry. The field has a
"Mexican hat " shaped potential with nonzero strength everywhere
(including otherwise empty space), which in its vacuum state breaks the
weak isospin symmetry of the electroweak interaction. When this happens,
three components of the Higgs field are "absorbed" by the SU(2) and U(1)
gauge bosons (the " Higgs mechanism" to become the longitudinal
components of the now-massive W and Z bosons of the weak force . The
remaining electrically neutral component separately couples to other
particles known as fermions (via Yukawa couplings ), causing these to
acquire mass as well. Some versions of the theory predict more than one
kind of Higgs fields and bosons. Alternative "Higgsless" models would
have been considered if the Higgs boson was not discovered..

Your copy and paste here is very contradictory. You and Higgs's competitors are trying to condemn the work of a scientist who was awarded Nobel Price. Who are you to do that? Look at these quack scientists.

johnydon22:
this is the picture of the great andromeda galaxy captured by the hubble telescope... so now this galaxy is another picture of ur god... am not even sure you know what higgs particle is...SMH

You are not an authority in science. Science study does not stop at your picture. Smh!

johnydon22:
wait ooo this guy... so a picture of a particle discovered in space in now ur god?...chisoooos this guy sef am just wondering where ur brain is...chaaaai...
gsm, tv, videos are invented, made not discovered...

Trash! Smh!

How do you comprehend things? You need wisdom.

They saw some which they believe God must be responsible for, otherwise, who put it there?

johnydon22:
lmao ur emotional ladened speechs always makes me wanna cry...the scientists discovered a particle and you now say they discovered a part of ur god...are you for real?...WTF....Since that part of him is merely a particle then it means it is just a particle...mehn chai... anyways shaa

Keep displaying your ignorance.

They saw something and put the picture there, yet it has no meaning to you. You could hardly believe you exist.

Blakjewelry:
Una don come again

Who is 'Una' in this case?

Scientists discovered GSM, TV, VIDEO etc, and you see them. But when they show you picture of what they discovered about God, you show your unbelief. May God deliver you from unbelief, caused by your enemy - satan.

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johnydon22:
So this god is actually a particle and not a living being? lmao... sounds convenient enough....chai

You are not a certified scientist and therefore your knowledge of science (if any) cannot be compared to the scientists in question.

Your urge to criticise did not make you read with understanding. I said that is the little they have discovered or the little God wants to make known of Him. I pray you will not die before you realize the truth.

Horus:
I can see that you avoid answering the questions so instead you ask a question when you have already an answer in my previous post.
I tell you again that the languages used in science and technology are not coming from your "god", that was my point. So dont allow
so-called linguistics of European birth to control your mind and entrap you in their definitions

From the begining, man has one source with same language and colour. Why are there white and black people now and who was responsible for their difference in colour and language?

If you can answer these, your questions will no more be necessary.