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BABAAGBALABA:
the yeye truthman, more like scardolieman2012

Nonsense!!!

malvisguy212:
trash. Gabriel is a spirit being, so Gabriel don't know the poison will kill muhammed ? Answer pleased.

Don't mind the usual insults of these islamists. We know the type of spirit dwelling in them.

Hello everyone.

No muslim has been able to answer my question: Why is pagan worship COMPATIBLE with islamic worship as evident in the quran and hadiths?

cc: Rilwayne, Rilwon

true2god:
Some islamic apologist said aisha, at 6, had a maturity of a lady of 16 hence the prophet of islam came to seek her (aisha who was 6 year old then) hand in marriage. It is only a man with a mental problem that will lust after a child of 6. This is what muslims fail to see; mohammed is a psychopath and a pedofile and a nimfo with an uncontrollable sexx drive.

He asked muslims to maintain a maximum of 4 wives while he had 9 wives at a time (with many sexx slaves). Like in the 48 LAWS OF POWER, you cant outshine your master. Muslims must not outshine mohammed hence he asked them to maintain only 4 and not 9 wives at a time.

I will also like to point that aisha was mohammed's second cousin, hence islam sanctioned marriage betweem cousins (following the example of islamic prophet and perfect man, mohammed). In my culture marriage to cousins is regared as incesst but its ok in islam. This had led to the creation of a race with the lowest IQ outside the sub-sahara africa.

Mohammed is a curse to humanity walahi, even a reasonable blind man can see it.

Referring to your last paragraph, ironically, allahh said Muhammad is a mercy to the world when we could all see he tried to destroy it, which his followers are following up today.

Demmzy15:
You're the ignorant one here who's confused!



What are you saying?! Which diety do we call Allah?! What's this confusion all about?!



Arabs who mostly the progeny of Ishmael and Abraham worshipped One God, but they deviated as time went on. The believe in One God Allah but they have many intermediaries or smaller gods. As the post I mentioned you in, many Christians before Islam beaded the name Abdullah. We've explained this severally to you, I don't know what's wrong with your brain.



Orunmila is not a prophet according to Yoruba but an "Orisha" better still a smaller "god".



How does this relate with the post office mentioned you in?! Some Yoruba Muslims(very little) and Christians still refer Olodumare as God. You trying to discredit Allah has made you to resort to illogical points.



Since you're an angel who knows the True God or the fake one, lemme just make this clear to you. The God I worship is the True Almighty, The One who has no father or mother. The Creator of the Heavens, Earth and all that's in it.

I seriously don't even know what to tell you, you're just a confused man trying to prove a point you'll surely fail on. I call God Allah, Arab Christians call him the same Allah and a black Negro comes out and say one is fake the other is correct. Nonsense!

Now tell us why idol worship and islam are COMPATIBLE?

You cannot deny they are one and same because they worship their gods the same way.

Rilwayne001:
Look boy, I don't tell lies. You are the Ignorant idiot carrying about a moniker that is an opposite of your incredulous actions.



If it doesn't answer your question, then kindly refer back to that post and address it by quoting it one after the other. You'd do just that if you are truthful to yourself.



Will you go back and refute his points or not?

Liar! Terrorist!!

What point did he make? Total trash.

Al-liar (allahh) has manipulated your brain just as he was tampering with Muhammad's brain making him to forget revelations (Quran 2:106). Am not surprised you cannot reason well, otherwise you will not consider any thread here as a defence.

malvisguy212:
liar. In broad day light, you are lying. NO muslims are able to reply the op instead you guys are busy discussing about movie (derailing the thread)

Bro. don't mind him, they are only deceiving themselves. In his mind he knows he is lying.

How did the posts Rilwayne01 quote answer the questions?

Why did allahh save Jesus from death and Muhammad allowed to eat poison that killed him?

Why was allahh unable to heal his greatest prophet and allowed him to suffer for as many as four whole years?

Why was Jubril's prayer and the promise that allahh would heal him fail?

One muslim out of his confusion of mind admitted Jesus too was poisoned to death on the cross, confirming the death of Jesus. Rilwayne quoted that same confirmation of Jesus death on the cross as his brother's defence. See desperation and confusion in action.

Rilwayne001:
What other defence do you want after all you've gotten from my brothers?

Quote and let's see what you call their defence.

Rilwayne001:
Hey boy, what do you want me to say?

Grandpa, okay you don't have any defence. Good.

Demmzy15:
Thank you bro! Cc plappville, truthman2012. Here's the truth, when I called you a liar you thought I was joking right! Lemme see the nonsense you'll type now!

You are still very ignorant or deliberately obstinate.

Nobody disputes allah being God in Arabic language. The point is: people call different deities God. The deity muslims call allah is not the true God.

Mutaleb, Muhammad grandfather and a known idolater named his son Abdullai (meaning servant of allah). Which allah was he serving as an idolater? This clearly shows that the idolaters also call their idols allah.

The Yoruba tribe in Nigeria named God as Olodumare, who had Orunmila as one of his prophets. Is Yoruba Olodumare the same Being as Yahweh or Arabian Allah? Who is 'prophet' Orumila in islam or Christianity?

The fact remains that the allah the Arab Christians refer to as their God is not the islamic allahh just like Olodumare the Yoruba traditional worshipers call their god is not Yahweh or Allah. Note that even the Yoruba Christians call God Olodumare despite the fact that traditional religionists call their god the same name. So when a Yoruba Christian call Olodumare he is not referring to the Being the traditional worshipers call Olodumare. It is only a matter of common language.

In the same light, the deity the muslims worship as their allah is not the same God the Arab Christians refer to as their own allah. It is only a matter of common language.

I don't know how to help you if you still cannot understand.

plappville:
I dont lie against Islam. I have seen so much documents on how true Muslims behave. They must kill for allah. U are not obeying allah. You ought to kill some1 to complete ur quest.. And again, if What the OP has posted are lies. Then you have issues to accept the truth because they came from your holy books. {Hadiths and koran}

You are very correct. Muslims reject what the quran and hadiths say when it comes to covering the dirt of islam.

They don't believe the quran or hadiths that expose(s) the FALSEHOOD of islam. The simple reason for having such spiritual absurdities in islam is because the Arabs were so used to idolatery that they couldn't discern the words and ways of the true God different from those of the Devil.

So when allahh was saying what he was saying and Muhammad doing what he was doing, muslims didn't know they were wrong. No wonder it was only the pagans who embraced islam as it tallies with their religion, but the Jews and Christians rejected it outright.

Rilwayne001:
Thank you my dear brother. NL-jail almost killed my morale on this board, but thank God I'm out.



No one but that popular stiffnecked super-mod named lalasticlal.a. His plan was to place a year ban on me, but God is greater than him.

Once again bro, thank you

The jail is good for you as you don't have anything upstairs other than insulting people. Smh!

Comment on this thread na and let people see the stuff you are made of.

Pwhitelaw:
... Religion is far above human knowledge and there is need to be carefull when we post controversial topics like this online. You may think you have vast experience about others people religion but you may be wrong at times .you are a Christian because your parent are Christian...

Religion can never be far above human knowledge otherwise you would be worshiping an unknown god. You have to know the God (god) you serve.

One is not a Christian because he is born by Christian parents. He must know Jesus personally and be born again.

By bible standard, bearing a Christian name does not make one a Christian because Christianity (meaning Christ-like) is personal and not family relationship with God.

malvisguy212:
nice one

Thank you my brother.
How was your day?
It is well with you in Jesus name.

Kudducini:
Well I Think I'll Get My Verified Answers When I Die

You are waiting to discover the truth when it is too late.

plappville:
You seem to have nothing to say...

Its a pity you do not know the origin of the god u worship. Let me remind u again . Befor Mohamed, al.lah was a well known Arabian moon deity who had three (3) daughters Lat, Uzza and Manat (Sura 53:19-20). Allah is even found in pre-Islamic Arabian inscriptions and poetry as the {moon god}. Therefore Allah has no connection to the God of Abraham Issac and Israel.

Arabic is a related language to Hebrew and Aramaic and nowhere in the language is a.llah or anything close to it used for the name of God, {Yahweh}. Clearly, a.llah is equivalent to the Babylonian god Baal. Even the symbol for Islam the crescent moon and star still declares this origin. Why distrol historical statut own by the state why u protect ur idol right in Mecca? A place where Satan lives.

Super correct.

lexiconkabir:
you don't understand Arabic and you know next to nothing, ilahun means "a god", which is in an indefinite case, while Allah means God, which is in a definite case due to the addition of "AL", now let's see the verse in question.

And the polytheists assign to Allah from that which He created of crops and livestock a share and say, "This is for Allah ," by their claim, " and this is for our partners [associated with Him]." But what is for their "partners" does not reach Allah , while what is for Allah - this reaches their "partners." Evil is that which they rule.

with what we've seen, the pagans which forgot the monotheism originally taught by Ishmael and Abraham took Allah to be head of the other 360 gods which they associated with him(that wasn't what Abraham and Ishmael taught them), now how does this mean that the arab pagans called any of their god Allah? anyway this is a very useless and boring point you are bringing up. truthman2012 a.k.a lieman you are yet to answer this.

[size=21pt]Are parents allowed to stick their thumb into the v'agina of their daughters to prove her virginity?[/size]

plappville how far?^^^ .

Firstly, none of you has been able to say anything on why idol worship is compatible with islam.

Secondly, you cannot prove islamic allahh is the same with Arab Christians' allah because the quran confirms that islamic allahh is not Yahweh the Jews and Christians believe in:

Quran109:
1. Say: O disbelievers! (i.e Jews and Christians)
2. I worship not that which ye worship;
3. Nor worship ye that which I worship.
4. And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

The DISBELIEVERS referred to in verse 1 above are the Jews and Christians who believed not in allahh and islam:

Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger.......(Quran 9:29).

The people who had been given the Scriptures are the Jews and Christians and not pagans, who disbelieved in allahh.

So, as you can see the Jews and Christians didn't believe in islamic allahh right from the time of Muhammad because they didn't believe his source of revelations that was inconsistent with what Yahweh had told them thousands of years before Muhammad's birth.

Yahweh said ''He changeth not'' and for Muhammad to bring revelations contrary to His words shows islamic allahh is the Devil who came to deceive humanity.

The fact that muslims worship their allahh in the same way idol worshipers do is a clear indication that allahh is an arabian idol who wanted to be promoted the status of the true God. It is satan's manipulation to drag mankind to hell with him and making them believe they are worshiping God.

For virginity test, it is a matter of common sense, mothers must have deviced a way of doing that. They were unlike Muhammad who was fingerin.g Aisha at the age of six. Disgusting!!

IdisuleOurOwn:
K.

Exhausted.
Don't remain deceived.

IdisuleOurOwn:
I read your thread on the Mali crisis, which you liken to Islam. In this thread of yours, you were beaten silly when the debate became hot. You ran away, too bad.


In your posts and threads, you employ all means to discredit Islam and Muslims. You gave interpretation of the Qur'an and the Hadiths. When someone quote from the Bible, you call that person blind.



Do you know the word "Allah" is an Arabic name for God? That the Arab Christians use it as God?

If you follow in a descending and chronologically order, you will find out that your forefathers (Christians) try to put a stop to Islam by giving their own interpretations of the Qur'an just as you are doing in a bid to see people run away from the religion, despite that, the religion grow from strength to strength. It defies all odds. People practice it in tranquillity.


You will always wasted your time in condemning Islam.


I will advise some brothers and sisters here to ignore you.


Demmzy15, lexiconkabir, bashbabe2, BABAAGBALABA, vedaxcol, Rilwayney001.

How many times do I have to teach you muslims that the Arabs call anything they worship allah (Quran 6:136)?

The Arab Christians' allah has children and it is stated so in their bible but muslims' allahh is barren. This the reason I sometimes say 'islamic allahh' to make the difference.

Those people you tagged in your post cannot say anything because there is no lie available to refute the OP.

BABAAGBALABA:
ok sorry, there is no need for you to know, then Christianity is also Idol worshipping period

Which idol do the Christians worship?

Pwhitelaw:
like I said earlier no room for argument. Serve your God and let me serve mine. Atleast you cant expect me to comment on your vague post. Must we argue... Smh

Since you are not ready to argue, did anyone force you to comment on my thread?

You said the post is vague without any proof to back up your statement. Learn not to accuse anything when you are not ready to defend your words, okay?

BABAAGBALABA:
can you pls tell me the history of idols,
The reason they were made
How it started etc

Do I have to know the history of idols in Mecca or anywhere? What for? All am interested is that both the quran and hadiths describe islam as arabian idolatery. Period.

Pwhitelaw:
am not a religion fanatics to argue on your vague post.

Prove that the post is vague.

You wrong your own soul if you see the truth and turn your face away from it.

Muslims have nothing to refute islam as arabian idolatery in the face of overwhelming evidences.

Now that you know without doubt that islam is idolatery, you should be convinced islamic allahh is not the true God.

Then how will you not go to hell worshiping a false god?

How would you trust the quran the revelations of allahh a false god? No wonder it opposes the truth of the bible.

Repent and accept Jesus before it is too late.

Visitor700:
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shariah does not advocate violence against unbelievers. The islamic radicals are the ones inciting people to violence against anyone who disagrees with them(it doesn't matter whether you're Christian or Muslim)

From where did they get their inspiration?

Quran 8:12] Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.

BABAAGBALABA:
The prophet (SAW) never worshipped any Idol,
In the ancient Arabia and even modern Arabia, Allah is the general name of God,
when the prophet was young, he believed that worshipping many gods is wrong,
he believed that there was a one God,
the creator of everything,
the only one who deserved to be served and worshipped,
the one that cannot be seen but sees all.
Even the Idol in ancient Arabia are just like middle men to connect to a one God.
So if you think you can just be badmouthing other people religion with lies, just remember that a day will come when u will have to answer your deed in front of God, Yahweh

Friend, let me teach you a little bit of islam, which your alfa might not know.

The Arabs call whatever idol they worship allah, so allah does not necessarily mean the true God:

Quran 6:136] They assign unto Allah, of the crops and cattle which He created, a portion, and they say: "This is Allah's" - in their make-believe - "and this is for (His) partners in regard to us." Thus that which (they assign) unto His partners in them reacheth not Allah and that which (they assign) unto Allah goeth to their (so-called) partners. Evil is their ordinance.

The 360 idols in Kaaba was headed by allah and concidentally, he was the idol they were worshiping in Muhammad's family. Every family in mecca at that time had one idol inside Kaaba and Muhammad's family own was allah. Muhammad's father's name was Abudullai (AbduAllah), meaning servant of allah. His family were idolaters and the idol they served was allahh, hence the name ''servant of Allah''. Or which allah were they serving as idolaters?

It is untrue Muhammad knew the true God when he was a boy. You have no proof for that, do you? Muhammad believed in idol even before islam.

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's
Apostle said that he met
Zaid bin 'Amr Nufail at a
place near Baldah and this
had happened before
Allah's Apostle received the
Divine Inspiration. Allah's
Apostle PRESENTED A DISH OF MEAT
(THAT HAD BEEN OFFERED TO HIM BY THE PAGANS) to Zaid bin 'Amr,
but Zaid refused to eat of it
and then said (to the
pagans), "I do not eat of
what you slaughter on
your stone altars
(Ansabs) nor do I eat
except that on which
Allah's Name has been
mentioned on
slaughtering." (Sahih al-
Bukhari 7:407

With that, how do you prove Muhammad believed in the true God.

plappville:
Simple Question the Op ask. You peopl cannot answer instead ranting....

By the way. If this is truelly al.lahs name then why the contrary?
Allah's name No: 3 الرَّحِیمُ
Ar-Rahim: The Merciful
Meaning: He who acts with extreme kindness
Found In Quraan Ayah(s): (2:163)(3: 31)(4:100) (5:3)

So why sharia and wrapping oneself with bomb to kill millions who do not believe? And even worse killing those who spend thier hard earned money to worship him?

This is not the first time muslims are unable to defend the LIES of allahh. Look at this as well:

https://www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets

BABAAGBALABA:
you hate what u don't understand or what you choose to hate

What is it to be understood?

Please explain.

plappville:
You are right. Muhammed the actor only distroled 359 gods/idols and kept allah the most powerful of the others. You can see how allah has been harming the entire world. Including his savants the muslims. Drinking innocent blood each second .

You are right.

In fact, muslims are the first victims of islam.

There are so many similarities between islamic allahh and the idols they worshiped in Mecca before islam. So similar that there are no distinctions.

The defence islamic apologists give is that the religious practices of the pagans were highjacked from the muslims after the founders of islam, Abraham and Ishmael were gone. Even though there are no evidence(s) to that claim apart from what Muhammad said, the questions is: How was it possible for pagans to worship their idols in the exact manner muslims worship their allahh if idol worship and islam are not COMPATIBLE?

The claim is like saying pagans were once worshiping their idols in the churches in the exact Christian way, praying and praising God and shouting Jesus and halelluyah in their shrines during the 'dark ages'. This is impossible because idols cannot withstand the shout of Jesus and halelluyah.

Worshiping God the way they worship idols or worshiping idols the way they worship God is a manipulation by satan from the pit of hell. It is not from the true God.

FIND EVIDENCES OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN ISLAM AND IDOL WORSHIP HERE:

https://www.nairaland.com/2287893/allah-loves-pagans-hates-jews

plappville:
You are right. Seeing how they are runing to the West where they give them free everything. Them go dey born like pure water na. Here in the West. One muslim man has more than three women . They all declare to be single mothers collecting a single mother allowance and each has 3-5 kids. Why the French man will have only 1 or two kids. Considering the cost of living as they dont get free allowance like the thieves do. So dont decieve yourself Islam growth is not by conversion.

Sister, these muslims are fraudulent. I think it is time to begin exposing them. The french government is using its money to breed terrorists unknowingly.

lexiconkabir:
Allah that created the whole universe and mankind! not the god of the bible that "inspired" men into saying:- rabbit is ruminant, earth does not move, God regrets and gets troubled, parent to stick thumb into the v'agina of their daughters to prove her virginity and so many absurdities.

Was it allahh who created the universe?

Who knew allahh in Isreal before the advent Muhammad?

Afterall Muhammad said allahh is not Yahweh: Quran 9:29, Quran 109:1-6

Satan manipulatively introduced an idol (allahh), the chief of arabian idols as the true God.