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bashbabe2:
You are just too desperate. Na by force to be worshipping a man like you and i.
I see how desperation is written all over the threads you create. I just SMH most times. Go and pay attention to the confused christians they need you. Peace

You hate the truth. I cite islamic sources to back up my threads, which islamists could not refute. If I have been citing the bible you would say you do not believe. Don't you believe the quran and hadiths too? May God deliver you.

With the descriptions your quran gives to Jesus: born without a father, working miracles, illustrous in the world and in heaven, favoured above Muhammad and not allowed to die, the Messiah, is it not better to worship Him than worship allahh, an arabian idol?

Repentance96:
Not a single record? I'm sorry, man, but why are you trying to prove your ignorance. There are lots of records authenticated ones with multiple of witnesses, for lots of miracles the Prophet (sal) had done. But Muslims dont stress on them, because we cannot see it with our own eyes. We stress on the Quran and its scientific, numerical, mathematical and literary miracles. The Quran can be used for spiritual healing known as Ruqya.

Firstly, I don't accept any statement you cannot substantiate with scriptural evidence(s). Hadith is said to be the words and deed of Muhammad, now tell the readers by quoting the hadiths that confirm Jubril, allahh or Muhammad healing anybody.

Today's muslims say there are miracles in islam, contrary to the quran:

Quran 13: 07
“And the Unbelievers say: "Why
is not a sign sent down to him
from his Lord?" But thou art
truly a warner, and to every
people a guide.”

The people accused Muhammad of not having power for miracles and allahh said he was only a warner and a guide and not a miracle worker. Why did muslims formulate miracles for him?

And they say: "Why are not
miracles sent down to him from
his Lord? Say: "The signs are
only with Allah , and I am only a
plain warner."
Qur'an 29:50

Again, people asked Muhammad why were miracles not sent to him and allahh had to say only him could do miracles and that Muhammad was only a warner, even though we couldn't find any healing by allahh himself.

The lame excuse by muslims that they don't emphasise miracles is because there is none they can point to as no miracles are happening in mosques or any muslims' gathering.

lexiconkabir:
how can moses order women to keep virgins for themselves

Keep virgins for the men among them for marriage and not as sex slave your islamic allahh ordered Muhammad.

Don't expect my reply again as you are trying to derail the thread for having no answer to my question.

Anas09:
Kabir and demmy.
Maybe do not realise that somany. Folk are following this thread. You are not doing a good job explaining things to form folk with questions.
The thread is not about fathers testing their daughters viginities, its about the compartibility of paganism and Islam.
Simply answer the question and get it done with.
The allah Mutalab (Muhammads grand father) worshipped and named his son abdullai (muhammad's father) after, which interstingly means, servant of allah. Have the same name and the same mode of worship WHY? What is the diff betwn that allah and todays allah.
Interestingly too. Ramadan was celebrated in the pre-islamic days. The circling of the stone, stoning of that devil. Everything the same WHY?

Good.

I think these islamists on NL have seen the truth but there is a force holding them down. May God deliver them.

lexiconkabir:
oldman, dont be ridiculous, they were men.

You have no proof !!!

lexiconkabir:
truthman2012 more proof that this digital deflowering a.k.a fingerin.g was done by the male is shown by [b]numbers31:17-18[/b]as we can see, they were asked to kill everything(both innocent people and animals) except for the virgins, now how do you expect these men to know the virgins? if not by the sick
tradition of sticking their thumb wrapped with white cloth into the v'agina of these virgins.

Who told you women were not among the warriors or who told you the men did not employ women to do the the virginity test?

Stop this irrelevant talk and answer my question.

lexiconkabir:
Exhausted!!

One thing I have noticed in this forum is that muslims always want to divert people's attention away from the questions for which they have no answers and that is the reason I do repeat my questions as many times as needed.

Yahweh was a God of miracles and there are ample evidences to back it up in the OT. There were miraculous healings by His prophets.

Jesus came and continued with healing the people and even raising the dead.

There is no single record of allah, Jubril or Muhammad healing anybody. Even Muhammad could not be healed by allah. Aisha, Jubril and allah tried their best to rescue Muhammad from death by poison but they could not. This shows allah is not the ALMIGHTY God of the Jews and Christians, who is capable of doing anything.

lexiconkabir:
truthman2012 more proof that this digital deflowering a.k.a fingerin.g was done by the male is shown by [b]numbers31:17-18[/b]as we can see, they were asked to kill everything(both innocent people and animals) except for the virgins, now how do you expect this men to know the virgins? if not by the sick tradition of sticking their thumb wrapped with white cloth into the v'agina of these virgins.

You are just bent on this issue that has nothing to with the thread. Open a thread to discuss it.

Now answer: Why is pagan worship COMPATIBLE with islam?

STOP DODGING!!!

If you cannot answer it shows you are worshiping an arabian idol.

lexiconkabir:
read the discussion keenly, you will see that i have given proof, your homework is to read the discussion from the genesis, now do your homework!

Your allegation totally debunked.

Now back to subject of the thread, which you have been dodging. Why the compatibility of pagan worship with islam?

lexiconkabir:
i wont do your homework for you

My homework? No, you are the one trying to prove a point. The onus of proof lies on you.

lexiconkabir:
truthman2012, this is a jewish tradition inserted into the bible, according to the tradition, the fathers does it not the mothers. kindly go to wikipedia to confirm this tradition

Post the link.

Rilwayne001:
Foolish boy, so I am now a satanists because your stupídity was exposed ?



Who failed here between myself and you when you couldn't address my posts?

Readers are not fools like you, you know?



Bla bla bla! Face front boy or simply go an play with your agemate, those little children in your street.

Trash!!

You cannot prove Muhammad was matyred and that he didn't die of poison as you have in islamic records.

You cannot prove the hadiths are talking about other occassion as you falsely want people to believe, blatant liar.

Leave the stage my friend. My thread is not opened for shameless and addicted liars like you. Anyway, what do people expect from devotees of a master deceiver (al-liar). You need lying to defend lies. Shame!!

lexiconkabir:
truthman2012 “If a man takes a wife and, after laying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, ‘I married this woman but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,’ then [size=21pt]the girl’s father[/size] and mother shall bring proof [how do you think they would do that?] that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. [size=21pt]The girl’s father[/size] will say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ [size=21pt]But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.’ Then her parents shall display the cloth[/size] [the father would literally stick his two fingers covered with a piece of cloth into his daughter’s vagina before she gets married and keep that bloody cloth for as long as his daughter is married] with before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. (NIV Bible, Deut22:13-18)”

The mother would check and confirm to the father who would inform the elders. So simple. It would have been a different thing if the mother is not involved.

bashbabe2:
Thanks I will pass, i love Jesus alayhi salam but I don't worship human being like me. I worship the only supreme God who's self sufficient,free of faults, who neither sleeps nor slumber, who doesn't share His Wonderful attributes with any man including Jesus. I don't need to seek Him through anyone. I just call on Him directly because He's closer to me than my jugular vein and I'm worthy of His love, Mercy and Grace.

Islamic allahh is not God. He is an idol and that why he is worshiped as such.

Go through this and discover the true identity of allahh:

https://www.nairaland.com/2287893/allah-loves-pagans-hates-jews

While you think it is the true God you are worshiping, allahh himself knows he has succeeded in deceiving you. It is a pity.

https://www.nairaland.com/2644778/islam-meccans-religions-before-it

Rilwayne001:
[b] Seriously this is very stupíd of you. I asked this question first, Instead of you to answer me, you are redirecting it to me again.. Wtf is your problem?

You brought this thing to the table by trying to force it on us claiming the narrations are of the same occasion when actually the 5th one is totally different.

Now I will ask you for the last time as I have asked earlier on: " The books you quoted in the oP makes us understand (from 1-4) that anytime he felt sick, he would pray as well as the angel, and he would get healed. But in the in the event of the illness that killed him (i.e the 5th narration), he didnt bother to pray knowing fully well that death has come. If we are made to understand that he used to pray whenever he is ill in the first 4 narration, doesn't your brain tell you that since the 5th narration made us understand that he didnt pray for recovery - the preceeding ones are not of the same occasion with this last one since we are told he used to pray for recovery in them?

If you are still arguing this, please kindly provide the rightful context to those narration. PleaSe I beg u. [/b]



You don't tell me what to type or what not to type. You brought this up and I am applying the same logic you are using to the story of jesus according to the bible you believe in.

The Jews mocked Jesus , and told him if he is the son of God, and king of Israel, and could save others then let him save himself, since Jesus died then this means he was a fake according to them! And using your logic this means the Jews are correct and Jesus is a fake, no?

According to Mattew 23:34 the Jews had already killed other prophets, using your horrendous logic, those prophets whom the Jews killed were also all fakes, because I am sure the Jews wouldn’t have killed them if they believed they were true prophets now would they?

Please don't go about saying trash and shying away from question posed at you. Address my post as I have been doing to yours.

Satanist!

Can you see how you have failed woefully?

You tried to lie to people that Gabriel's failed prayer was not in respect of Muhammad dying of poison with no evidence to prove it.

You claim Muhammad died a matyr with no proof. You are just lying around. Don't you have any shame?

It should by now be clear to everyone that Jubril is a demon whose power is very limited. Allah is satan who could not deliver his prophet in time of trouble. It takes satanic manipulation to be a muslim.

lexiconkabir:
Fathers are allowed to do it.

kindly go to songs of solomon yes! and so what? the disgusting thing here is fathers fingerin.g daughters

do you finge.r your daughters?

Liar!

Quote your bible verse where fathers f.ingered their daughters. We have seen how your prophet could do any immoral acts.

bashbabe2:
We know most of the christians on here don't have anything reasonable, meaningful, truthful to say but they are good at many things though like copying and pasting, lying, arguing no matter the evidence, insulting, hypocrisy, throwing tantrums like kids, immaturity. You can read frustrations written all over thier post.sorry guys you lose yet again.

Is that why you couldn't tell us the reason allahh saved Jesus from death but allowed Muhammad, his greatest prophet to eat poison and die.

Your quran says all other prophets died, why was Jesus an exception?

You had better dumped islamic falsehood and embrace the TRUTH.

.

No muslim has been able to prove the statute or symbol of satan was erected by Abraham, why na?

Don't you know the source of your religious practice?

You better dump falsehood and embrace Jesus the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE (John 14:6).

lexiconkabir:
you better face front

Exhausted!!!

lexiconkabir:
truthman2012 you noticed that i ignored you, hence you added the below, which i'm about to reply, you are really a shameless oldman tell us this "way" other than fingerin.g a.k.a digital deflowering, note:the fathers does this, not the mothers. truthman2012, when will you stop this shameless act of lying? is this what you teach your children at home? to be lying at all times?

You didn't ignore me, you didn't have anything to say.
Does the bible tell you it is the fathers that must do virginity test?

No prophets f.ondle women but only Muhammad:
Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman
bin Al-Aswad:
(on the authority of his
father) 'Aisha said:
"Whenever Allah's Apostle
wanted to f.ondle anyone
of us during her periods
(menses) , he used to order
her to put on an Izar and
start f.ondling her." 'Aisha
added, "None of you could
control his sexual desires
as the Prophet
could." ( Sahih al-Bukhari ,
Volume 1, Book 6, Number
299 ; see also Number 300)

F.ondling menstrating women. Disgusting.

Is that what you do and teach your children?

lexiconkabir:
[size=18pt]3year and 1day old baby girl is ready for sex, so says your buybull[/size], with what you've done, you now have my eyes on you, whenever you see me on a thread just disappear, because i will make you look like a fool, you hear me(hey, dont pee on your pants, its just an e-threat )!

Any need for any sort of threat?

Is e-threat not e-terrorism?

parisbookaddict:
Don't u read the Hadiths. Mohammed felt something was wrong with the taste of the goat meat and spat it out... the other fellow ate and swallowed it which killed him instantly...

Thanks to the brave Jewish woman mohammed suffered for 4 years before the poison killed him..it even caused a blood clot/embolism in his genit.alia causing a death ere.ction ..all signs of poisoning.

So in ur Islamic mind...a paedophile who died from poison in the hands of a Jewish woman suddenly becomes a martyr...a man who died on the chest of his teenage wife.. what will u call the christians who refuse to accept Islam and are beheaded for there faith in Christ.. those are martyrs..

Thanks sister. How is everything?

Let him tell us how Muhammad was a matyr: how he died, who killed him and with what?

Rilwayne001:
First of all, kindly provide an authoritative source that said he suffered for 4 years before his death.




Come out clean here, I don't get you. The books you quoted in the oP makes us understand (from 1-4) that anytime he felt sick, he would pray as well as the angel, and he would get healed. But in the in the event of the illness that killed him, he didnt bother to pray knowing fully well that death has come, no? If no, please provide the rightful context to the book you quoted. I asked this question in my last reply and you ignored it - shows how untruthful you are.



He died a matyr.




[b] From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie,you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."

Note when the prophets asks them why they poisoned the lamb, they reply by saying they did it to see if he was a true prophet, had he been a true prophet the poison would not HARM HIM. Now by this, the ews obviously meant if he was a prophet, then the poison would not kill him, since that was the effect it had on the person who ate from it, and as we see, the poison had no such effect on the prophet; the prophet survived from the poison and did not die from it. Thus under the Jews own criteria, the prophet Muhammad was proven to be a true prophet!

Now quoting from Ibn Sa'd that you've been using: Ibn Sa'd page 249: Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."

Note the Jewish lady says if he is a true prophet then God would tell him, as we see, the prophet got a sign that the lamb was poisoned when he shouted:

Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned





And again, the poison was meant to have an immediate effect, not a long term effect where it would eventually kill you, the proof of this is when the prophets companion ate of the poisoned lamb he was killed by it.




If this is actually true, then the Prophet (Sa) must have battled with the effect for 4years, isn't it? Now please provide an authoritative sources that clearly says that he battled with an effect of poison for 4years..



[b] How about other Prophets that were killed by the Jews?

And Then I guess the Jews are also correct about Jesus, that he is an imposter, a false messiah, which is why he was killed and could not save himself, according to your logic, this makes those Jews correct, as the Bible says:

Matthew 27:33-50 ... 36 And sitting down they watched him there; 37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. 38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left. 39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, 40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple,and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. 41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, 42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel , let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. 43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God . 44 The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth. 45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, [size=15pt] Eli, Eli,lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [/size] 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. 48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice , yielded up the ghost.

So note these Jews came up to Jesus when he was on the cross, and they mocked him, and told him if he is the son of God, and king of Israel, and could save others then let him save himself, since Jesus died then this means he was a fake according to them! And using your logic this means the Jews are correct and Jesus is a fake, no?

According to Mattew 23:34 the Jews had already killed other prophets, using your horrendous logic, those prophets whom the Jews killed were also all fakes, because I am sure the Jews wouldn’t have killed them if they believed they were true prophets now would they? [/b]

Before we proceed further, let me have the INCIDENTS in which the hadiths in the OP were written as you earlier claimed. You tried to create the impression that the hadiths were talking about different occassions and not the death of Muhammad by poison. Give authentic sources to back up your claim and not a formulated story of an islamic cleric.

Again, don't cause diversion on this thread by talking about what happened to Jesus on the cross, it has nothing to do with spiritual healings. He was not sick.

Rilwayne001:
That's actually not possible, until you can provide for us from where you copied this; the rightful context of 1-4.. Now number narrates that: "But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, "O soul! What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?"

The red part, especially the underlined is contrary to your point that the 5 narration are narrating the same incident on the same occasion.

Now, please, provide the rightful context to what you copied.




Like I asked the other slowpoke, what kind of a man survives for 4years a poison that killed other people that ate it instantly?

What kind of a prophet would suffer the excruciating pains of poison for 4 years and would not pray for healing? If Muhammad did not pray, it was because he didn't see allahh heal anyone before, hence he did pray to him for healing.

That it took about 4 years before he died does not erase the fact that he died of the poison:

Ibn 'Abbas replied, "That
indicated the death of
Allah's Apostle which Allah
informed him of." 'Umar
said, "I do not understand
of it except what you
understand." Narrated
'Aisha : THE PROPHET IN HIS AILMENT IN WHICH HE DIED,
used to say, "O 'Aisha! I
still feel the pain caused
by the food I ate at
Khaibar, and at this time,
I feel as if my aorta is
being cut from that
poison." ( Sahih al-Bukhari
Volume 5, Book 59,
Number 71

She said: If you were a
prophet, it would not harm
you; but if you were a king,
I should rid the people of
you. The Apostle of Allah
(peace_be_upon_him) then
ordered regarding her and
she was killed. He then said
about the pain of which he
died: I continued to feel
pain from the morsel
which I had eaten at
Khaybar. This is the time
when it has cut off my
aorta. ( Sunan Abu Dawud
Book 39, Number 4498 ).

It was the poison that cut off his aorta and what was next? Death. Muhammad failed the woman's test for a prophet, she said if he was a true prophet, the poison would not harm him. But what happened? The poison actually harmed him.

That Muhammad survived for 4 years after the poison shouldn't be a thing of pride for muslims, he might not have eaten as much as others who died instantly. If he didn't eat so much it could have the effect of slow poison.

A true prophet of God should live above poison. We found sucht an example in the Bible:

"Elisha returned to Gilgal
and there was a famine in
that region. While the
company of the prophets
was meeting with him, he
said to his servant, 'Put on
the large pot and cook
some stew for these men.'
One of them went out into
the fields to gather herbs
and found a wild vine. He
gathered some of its
gourds and filled the fold of
his cloak. When he
returned, he cut them up
into the pot of stew,
though no one knew what
they were. The stew was
poured out for the men,
but as they began to eat it,
they cried out, 'O man of
God, THERE IS DEATH IN THE POT! ' And they could not
eat it. Elisha said, 'Get
some flour.' He put it into
the pot and said, 'Serve it
to the people to eat.' And
there was nothing harmful
in the pot." 2 Kings 4:38-41
NIV.

So they cooked the poisonous stew with the flour at the command of Elisha, a true prophet of God and the poison was neutralized.

That is type of power we expect from a true prophet and not an exploit in the killings of innocent souls.

Rilwayne001:
I asked a question first please, don't use question in answering my question

Until the contrary is proven, I take it that it was the incident of the poison that killed Muhammad.

The fact remains Muhammad died of poison, which allahh could not heal.

Rilwayne001:
Those 5 narrations you narrated, are they alll relating the same incident at a time or differet incident on different occasion?

State which incident each narration is relating to with proof and also tell what healing was done by Gabriel, allah or Muhammad.

Demmzy15:

Allah allahh the god.

Jesus did a lot of miracles on earth. The miracles included healing the sick, raising the dead and many others.

Even the quran confirms Jesus did miracles:

We have made some of these
apostles to excel the others;
among them are they to whom
Allah spoke, and some of them
He exalted by (many degrees
of) rank; and We GAVE clear
miracles to Isa son of Marium,
and strengthened him with the
holy spirit.
Qur'an 2:253

Jesus could perform miracles but ironically, allah who claims to be the God who gave Jesus power for miracles has no power to perform any himself. This clearly shows allah is not the sender of Jesus, he is an impersonator.

ALLAH'S INABILITY TO PERFORM MIRACLES:

1. From Ibn Sa'd page 263
Verily during his illness
the prophet recited "al-
Mu'awwadhatayn" [Sura 113,
and 114], and blow his breath
upon his body while rubbing
his face. [This was done in an
effort to be healed].

2. From Sahih Muslim volume 3,
#
5440
Aisha reported that
when Allah’s Messenger fell ill,
he recited over his body
Mu’awwidhatan and blew over
him and when his sickness was
aggravated I used to recite over
him and rub him with his hand
with the hope that it was more
blessed. Also ref. Hadith #
5441.

3. From Ibn Sa'd page 265
The apostle of Allah fell
ill and he i.e. Gabriel, chanted
on him, saying, "In the name of
Allah I chant on to ward off
from you every thing that
harms you and (to ward off
you) against every envier and
from every evil eye and Allah
will heal you."

4. From Ibn Sa'd page 265
[Different narrator]
Aisha, the wife of the
prophet used to say, "When the
apostle of Allah fell ill, Gabriel
chanted on him saying, "In the
name of Allah Who will cure
you and Who will heal you
from every malady (and will
ward off) the evil of envier who
envies and from smite of the
evil eye.

5. From Ibn Sa'd page 322
Verily, whenever the
apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked
for recovery, from Allah. But
in the illness as a result of
which he died, he did not pray
for recovery; he used to say, "O
soul! What has happened to
thee that thou are seeking
refuge in every place of
refuge?"

In no. 4 above, Gabriel chanted
on Muhammad and PRAYED IN
THE NAME OF Allah that he
(Allah) would cure him. Gabriel
as an islamic angel had no power
to heal neither did the name of
Allah capable of healing. What a
powerless arabian god.

So much efforts were made by
Aisha, Gabriel (Jubril) and Allah
to cure ORDINARY POISON but
all to no avail.

There is nowhere we are told in islam that allah, Jubril or Muhammad healed anybody other than the killings of the Jews, Christians and pagans.


How do you claim allahh is the
ALMIGHTY God, a god that could
not cure ordinary poison?

Rilwayne001:
There is no need arguing with you about whether the Quran is a miracle or not. You don't believe it is a miracle, then good for you.

You see, I don't have time for your stupíd nonsense today. The post I quoted raised the most pertinent points concerning the shenanigans wrote by the OP. Neither you nor the OP was able to refute it.

I believe the Quran is a miracle, yes, a potent miracle that is much more that physical miracle, if you don't believe so, its your cup of tea.

No time for BS with an Illiterate today.



[b] There is no false hope there. Gabriel is not Allah. He doesn't know when one will die, is own is to convey the message of Allah.

Now check this that you copied:

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
Verily, whenever the apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked for recovery, from Allah [AND HE GETS HEALED] . But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, “O soul! What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?”

What else do you want? According to the above, he already knew he was going to die as a result of that particular illness, hence the reason why he didn't bothered to ask God fir recovery.

Now consider the salient points raised by my brother up there

Once the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) was given food mixed with poison to eat. He who ate it first expired, but the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) lived for four years even after taking that food. That food told the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam): There is poison in me.

Consider the following facts that prove Muhammad was true:

(1) The Bible says false prophets can perform miracles (Matt. 24:24), the Prophet Muhammad’s greatest miracle was a Book, the Holy Quran.

(2) John the Baptist performed no miracles (John 10:41), yet he was a true Prophet.

(3) Jesus was poisoned on the cross; he was a true Prophet.

(4) Many true Prophets were killed (Matt. 23:7), but they were still true Prophets.

(5) The Prophets of the Bible are guilty of major sins,.e.g. Inbreeding, fornication, drunkenness, Unclothedness, and they were True Prophets!

(6) There are pre-Islamic predictions of Muhammad
(peace be upon him)

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WWANT [/b]

Muhammad didn't pray for healing you are claiming? This another islamic glaring lie.


1. From Ibn Sa'd page 263
Verily during his illness
the prophet recited "al-
Mu'awwadhatayn" [Sura 113,
and 114], and blow his breath
upon his body while rubbing
his face. [This was done in an
effort to be healed].

2. From Sahih Muslim volume 3, #
5440
Aisha reported that
when Allah’s Messenger fell ill,
he recited over his body
Mu’awwidhatan and blew over
him and when his sickness was
aggravated I used to recite over
him and rub him with his hand
with the hope that it was more
blessed. Also ref. Hadith #
5441.

3. From Ibn Sa'd page 265
The apostle of Allah fell
ill and he i.e. Gabriel, chanted
on him, saying, "In the name of
Allah I chant on to ward off
from you every thing that
harms you and (to ward off
you) against every envier and
from every evil eye and Allah
will heal you."

4. From Ibn Sa'd page 265
[Different narrator]
Aisha, the wife of the
prophet used to say, "When the
apostle of Allah fell ill, Gabriel
chanted on him saying, "In the
name of Allah Who will cure
you and Who will heal you
from every malady (and will
ward off) the evil of envier who
envies and from smite of the
evil eye.""

5. From Ibn Sa'd page 322
Verily, whenever the
apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked
for recovery, from Allah. But
in the illness as a result of
which he died, he did not pray
for recovery; he used to say, "O
soul! What has happened to
thee that thou are seeking
refuge in every place of
refuge?"

In no. 4 above, Gabriel chanted on Muhammad and PRAYED IN THE NAME OF ALLAH that he (allah) would cure him. Gabriel as an islamic angel had no power to heal neither did the name of allah capable of healing. What a powerless arabian god.

So much efforts were made by Aisha, Gabriel (Jubril) and Allah to cure ORDINARY POISON but all to no avail.

How do you claim allahh is the ALMIGHTY God, a god that could not cure ordinary poison?