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Sophyrocks:
Blaming it on the west is pointless, hypocritical and has no grrounds. Even men here in nigeria who wanna take a piss can be so mannerless as to bring out their genitals in the full glare of others outside!! Is that not indecent exposure? Is the west to blame for that too? As pure africans devoid of any form of civilisation, we never wore clothes. Even the traditional attire depicted in nollywood movies shows a lot of skin and its equal to wearing of panties and bra. It is the same west that raised our IQ, saved us from full blown barbarism (even though we still do act like barbarians till today) and gave us common sense that we need clothes to cover. So blame it on individuals and not on the west!!! Simple!! STOP BLAMING THE WEST FOR EVERYTHING AND ACCEPT RESPONSIBILIT Y!! We on our own are naturally morally bankrupt. We have always been wicked, callous and barbaric!! we are just hypocrites, pretenders. Remove the religious fanaticism, we are Nothing!! The west are not religious yet they know what is right and they just do it. we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. Indecent exposure of body parts is and as always been a part and parcel of africans !!!

Sophy, Sophy, Sophy,

How on earth can you say Africa was not civilised before the white man came. I’m not even sure I can dignify that with a response. Do you feast from the garbage can at night and then come here to orally defacate in the morning? E jo, e gba mic l’owo e !

Miso has already chastised you some, so I'll spare you somewhat, but only because the second bolded is quite true - in a general sense. But that first bolded Have you read any history further back than Ovation??

And the third, Exposure does not necessarily mean indecent. Is unclothedness the same of sexualisation and promiscuity in every culture? Have the West not a great deal to do with propagating this of late? And Imperialistically trying to get other nations to toe the line? Sophy, you really need to bone up some. Chai!

And please, what is this obsession with men pee’ing in public – and using that as a basis for female lewdness & sluttery? Is it an act anyone has justified?

This conversation has been going on for 22 pages. For the last few or so, there have been no rebuttal of points by the haddock-brained contingent – just pained outbursts, gifs, emoticon abuse and rent-a-likes…please clear off if you’ve no factual rejoinders to present.

Honestly.


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red101:
please don't try to flatter yourself. You have not built any civilization. the white men and women have.

Not that I was wrong in the first instance, but I believe I have you pretty much sized up.

So what obtained in Africa - specifically Nigeria - prior to the arrival of the white-man was not civilisation. Another one who like Carefreewannabe has a serious self-loathing issue with her heritage and culture.

Remember, very few quality white men get with black girls - especially at your level !


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red101:
YES because I am a woman and I love myself and I will gladly freeze my eggs if It were offered to me at a price I can afford. It provides me with options and choices. It gives me the possibility to have a child at 25, 35 and 45. An option that would otherwise be very scarce.

So you would advise a procedure that has a single digit chance of success (for women under 40) as insurance? And you claim that provides you with choice - while you conveniently wave away the associated cost, which means it's not an option for very many people at all is it? .

red101:
a woman who merely wants to hang pretty curtains will not freeze her eggs. This technology is not targeted toward her. Do you think such a woman will be ambitious enough to even work at google?
For an ambitious woman who wants to do something more with her life. a woman who wants to become a builder, designer, constructor and leader is who this technology is designed for.
there are plenty of women who want to "hang pretty curtains" and there are also plenty of women who have more ambitious goals and dreams. That is the great thing about choice. people (as long as they are not slaves) are free to choose what they want to do and the problem arises when people like you are hellbent on limiting women's choices because you feel you are superior to women and will do anything you think will maintain such a status quo. rubbish.

A lot of gibberish really, as the context of the other thread was about building civilisations, not career, professional capability or fertility - if you have the nous to disprove what I said, please do it in the appropriate place. Trying to conflate it with this discussion is telling. Danke. !

red101:
seeing that I am a woman and all. I must have a smaller brain incapable of building or contributing anything tangible to society beside arranging curtains. I am so happy that you are zealous for my best interest. It is imperative that my domestic curtain arrangement skills do not become imperiled by my "immoral" goals to lead an organization one day or become a boss.......I say thanks but no thanks.

No, all you've shown by this is that you are prone to emotionally driven rhetoric - needlessly introducing morals into the discussion.

It's a pity you couldn't address a single point or any of the data I presented. I'll obviously see you around as you love to spin-threads together instead of weaving factful rebuttals/narratives. You may find curtain-hanging a stretch !


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alutacontinua:
It amazes me how you remember every single thing that goes on here, even months/years after-how can somebody be so jobless?

Don't be pained (or is that concern )...my joblessness in no way hinders your world changing endeavors. Unless that endeavor includes challenging opinions such as mine .

And I don't remember every single thing, just that I have a mental note to swerve you, which you validated by taking a swipe at me the last 4 times you've quoted/mentioned me - none of which I have beefed you about, simply responded .

alutacontinua:
And oh yeah-some of us don't come here to blow how much we acheive or have achieved in our life or going to achieve, some of us just live a quiet, simple, dignified, honourable life! Meaning what I've done, what I'm doing or what I'm planning to do would never come to your knowledge-cos even if it does, alutacontinua will not be a part of the scheme. Keep your cheers to yourself

Which is the one thing I remember from our very first encounter. Your ambitions to be a person of renown, a world changer and trail blazer in your chosen field. Who would top it all with a handsome husband and two cute as button kids - and, I've no problem with that, in fact, I applaud it. You single-handedly created the "mat-spreading" specialty on this board....for that alone...standing Ovation .

If there is a record of me "blowing" about my achievements - which admittedly are very modest and quite pathetic by your "global writ" levels - please feel to point it out. Am I proud of my family? Abso-bloody-lutely, it's possibly the only good thing I've achieved in my under-achieving life. Should I not be?

alutacontinua:
And just so you know-you're henceforth IGNORED!

Ope 0 - no question I'm a big slacker...always needing the patronage of my betters to get what I can't acquire myself.

alutacontinua:
Maybe on another thread when you make a tiny little bit of sense (cos the good thing is: some of us don't do carry-overs) .........something about maturity

Carry-overs? I have responded to every one of your swipes - and quite civilly too - even after pointing them out to you.

You remain my lovable lil' sis - Yes you !


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crackhaus:
Well said.
There has to be standards for any sane society to move forward, order is a necessity.
I must admit, the majority of responses by females on this thread regarding dressing really surprised me - I found solace in the fact that this is an anonymous platform, hence people would want to follow the majority instead of stating what they truly think.
Very good examples here, I already made use of the mother-daughter instance earlier to highlight the obvious hypocrisy in supporting the 'she has a right to dress however she wants' movement - but like a kite on air, it seemed my effort flew past their heads.
I would love to see how the women on here would respond @bold texts, if they were to be faced with your vividly accurate instances.

They will respond by not responding, or invective and ad-hominem, or emoticons, or gifs, or purposely mis-interpreting/mis-ascribing/mis-construing or missing the point altogether, and finally resort to raspberries .

pickabeau1:
TV01 dont forget these same types will raise fire and brimstone if a baby whale is trapped while there are no eye lids batted when scores of dead babies are used as fuel for incinerators

YES! Those aborted foetuses are used as fuel for electricity generation


Its so funny when the issue of the transgender MMA fighter came up, they were citing BS that hes not really a woman

The lack of any considered, well-thought out end-to-end ideology is glaring, but hey, "they just go with their hearts", bless 'em

After all, orientation is fixed and immutable, whilst "gender" is fluid !


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^{**does anyone have any insect repellant? There's an annnoying buzz around here. Or is it an oink !**}

crackhaus:
Hope you don't run your home like a military boot-camp?

You mean there's another (better) way


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crackhaus:
Liberal?
With my favourable stance on ladies staying with their parents until most absolutely necessary not to?

Conservative says I.

ATBE, it's only "absolutely necessary not to" when they get married.


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sassygal:
Herein lies my response

I know I pivoted off your post, but I was actually responding to Cracky. I should have made that clear.


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crackhaus:
This...

And this...

Very well said.

Cheers, but prepare to be slandered !


Another thing. It’s instructive to note is how feminist infected & SJW types are pushing this “whatever we like” Satanist type agenda. Look at the facts;

The right to kill unborn babies at any time and for any reason
The right to have any they do have funded by men or the state
The right to technological intervention to work around their spurning of the natural fertility window
The right to sleep with anyone in any manner of their choice
The right to have men charged with rape if they “regret” their choice
The right to effectively feminise all spheres of life – even if that makes these spheres less effective in practice

There is a school of thought that pins civilizational downfall to the emergence of female power. Women cannot build civilisations. In the same sense that they do not build homes, merely hang pretty curtains .

It takes the structured ways of men to design, build construct and expand. To maintain order. Feminising it ultimately leads to ruin. It was Adams failure to grasp this and act in his capacity as a male lead that led to the fall.


You can see it in the solipsistic thinking of “Who has any right to tell a grown woman how to dress”. In such thinking there is no notion of common good, community flourishing , decency, societal morals, standards or the like. How can civilisations stand if such thinking is given sway?

A society has to have standards and norms in order to grow, become established and flourish. A key component of this is moral norms – especially around how individuals are meant to conduct themselves sexually. Does the overwhelming female response on this thread in any way give credence to this school of thought and show why they can’t build and shouldn’t be allowed to lead?


If a 24/7 gay bondage club – with people parading in various states of UnCloth in fetish gear - opened across from a childrens primary school what should be the action of those parents that are concerned?

- Move their children
- Instruct their children not to look in that direction or have any interaction with the patrons
- Provide adequate protection to protect their children in some way

Afterall these are full grown adults merely living their lives as they choose. That is the nature of what they are defending. Again note the omission of any consideration other than their emotional me, me, me response.

What if these same "patrons" were actually teachers, should they be allowed to dress in their fetish gear to school or allowed to freely disseminate details of their lifestyles?


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First, ensure it doesn't become one;

Lovethlovesmike:
Its all because me and my bf are dark thats why i've started thinking about it although it has never been a problem in our relationship.

Then do this;

Stillfire:
Be proud of your skin color. Don't let anyone influence you with their own insecurities. Take care of your dark skin. You are very lucky to have it. I notice dark people rarely have skin issues.
Melanin protects you from the sun. Others would roast in it.
Bright skin does not mean light either. Your skin can be dark and bright. Use natural oils on your skin and keep it alive.

Note this;

MrPresident1:
I think it is possible. Elementary genetics, if the couple both have recessive genes for light skin, it may just express as dominant in one or more of their offspring

Then think about moving to a cold/Western nation to increase your chances .


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Crackhaus you liberal !
I have a different view. And note from my openeing post, I was sex-neutral on this, so I differ from Cracky on that point to.

sassygal:
Let me give you several reason, using myself as an example
I am an unmarried young woman and live 10-15 minutes away from my parents house.
Do I crave my freedom? You sure bet I do!

sassygal:
I am a very independent being with a strong personality, my mum equally has a strong personality. The max number of hours we stay together in the same house without upsetting each other is 12 hours.

Which would be the same even if she lived with you. The fact that a mother is unable to understand that an adult daughter who resides with her is to be permitted certain leeway is not a bad mark against the principle itself. Or will you claim this friction only manifested when you were able to live by yourself?

sassygal:
Now, I know some people will make a mountain out of a molehill but when I hear daily of how I threw away u.i medicine admission to study pharmacy in Lag, or is it why I decide not to practice the pharmacy and go into business(despite being successful at what I do) or why I travel up and down for business instead of looking for a man or is it why I fry my oil in a certain way while cooking. In as much as these are not enough reasons to some, but when you keep harping/nagging on a particular subject constantly despite it not affecting the outcome, I will snap. Often times, I'll keep quiet and this makes her upset, either way, it's a no-win situation for me.

This also is about an individual, not about a practice per se. Plus, we have no idea of your motivations for making the decisions you did, so we can't necessarily fault you mother for her objections. So yes, molehills !

Again, looking for a spouse - unless you are avowedly against marriage - is something to be considered in a timely fashion if marriage and kids are a priority. A mother has a duty to higfhlight that - wherever her child lives - I lived 6hrs away from my mum and it felt like the whole tribe was on my case

sassygal:
One important reason, I decided to stay away is cos the nature of my job means that I work long hours, sometimes coming home at 10-12pm which makes her upset and she starts her tirade.

Again, this has nothing to do with the principle of singles being better served by being with their parents until they nest

sassygal:
Rather than stay in the same house and fight over minor things, which in my opinion are irrelevant, I give her her space and we are best buddies now.

Good, then don't fight, acquiesce were possible and patiently explain where it's not. Your choice of solution has nothing to do with the principle

sassygal:
Some of the advantages of living on your own, IMO, is that you get to make firm decisions on your own and learn to take care of your self properly and make yourself happy without interference. You also learn to take care of a home before getting married.

Which of these can a single person not learn to do at home with their parents? Or in other words, what is it one can learn by living alone that they couldn't possibly learn whilst living at home.

sassygal:
Does living alone, make me anyway promiscuous? No, it does not. I have become more of an introvert, living alone.

Again, no one stated promiscuity as the sole or main benefit of children living with parents until they nest.


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bellong:
Amin.... Thanks bro

Congratulations Bellong.

May your union endure and continually increase in sweetness and fruitfulness.

Pics please !

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pickabeau1:
interesting insight....TV01


pulpit and politicians

liberalism--- standing for everything and nothing at the same time

Cheers,

Liberalism = lawlessness

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coogar:
you mean this is somehow connected to satan's grand plan? but if we are all here slaving for money to pay bills, aren't we all then connected to lucifer & his cronies?

SirShymex:
I somewhat agree with that, based on the influence they have on the world economy, in terms of control. However, I think most folks underrate the House of Windsor due to the "ceremonial" political nonsense, when even before the PM signs anything he has to ask for Royal Assent from the Queen. And if not for Blair, the House of Lords would still be more powerful than the Commons.
And the House of Windsor still has so much leverage over all the commonwealth countries, including America.
Also, British nobility still engage in in-breeding as well. Even to smallest upper class of tiny towns.

SirShymex:
In as much as I believe Roman empire never died, and it resurrected with the European Renaissance. And that bloodlines of all European royalties and those who control US empire are linked. I don't believe they're connected with Lucifer.
I just think when the smoke clears - it's more of racial domination than anything else. The supreme race vs. others.

Is this really about knowing what’s going on? Even if we consider that full knowledge is obtainable? We know in part …"the times and seasons are in God’ hands".

Even if we could have total knowledge, what would we do with it? Is knowledge really power in an absolute sense…Like Cersei said …”knowledge is not power, power is power”

You look at the big eschatological picture and that’s good. But eschatology by definition has a consummation. How is it all going to end ?…”then comes the fulfilment of all things”

But what about the little things? Don’t miss the detail. This thread is instructive. Satan doesn’t have a church of his own, he and his legions go to the regular ones - like everyone else. You can often see his peeps in pulpits across the globe. And in politicians offices. He is after all noted as the ruler of this world.

It’s why the saying “Religion & Politics are the cause of all the worlds ills” rings pretty true. They are readily identified as the “LovePeddler” & the “beast” – false/syncretic/ecumenical religion and corrupt states/empires/governments.

But Satan does have a church – The church of Satan. Only it’s not where he does his major work – it’s almost akin to a luxury brand. But what is the one law of this church? “ Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” as famously articulated by Aleister Crowley one of his peeps.

Could someone please tell me how that in any way differs from the refrain by a number of contributors here – “Who am I/what right does anyone have to tell an adult what to do?”

The bible calls it lawlessness, or the spirit of disobedience, the anti-christ spirit. Satan won’t outright tell you to fornicate or kill (sacrifice) your babies (murder), he’s a seducer, he’ll dress it up as rights, choice, equality. A seed will be planted here, an idea there. His job is done. The heavy lifting is carried out by his peeps or ignorant SJW and feminist types. The same pattern from the garden of Eden.


Ephesians 2:2 - In which in time past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience:

1 John 3:4 - Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son (see also 2:18, 4:3 & 2 John 1:7.

Obsessing with red-flag incidents, global economies, family bloodlines, Bildeburg meetings, skull & bones fraternity, race, race and the like is ultimately fruitless – even if interesting reading. It will make no difference. Your mission – should you choose to accept it – is to choose a side and wait for instructions. Many have done this by default – some without even realising it.

Choose, or don't choose even !


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alutacontinua:
Anyways, there are a million freedom you get when you stay alone that you can only dream of with parents. And this isn't about misbehaving, this is about the fact that you need to factor their presence into everything you do, including time to wake up.

List 3, just 3 and let us see !


You say this;

alutacontinua:
Ignore this post if you'll start throwing subtle insults....cos as usual, I'll ignore you once you start.

When you opened with this;

alutacontinua:
Sometimes, I feel like engaging you but you too dey attach emotions to your debates.
In other words, you argue like a woman.
That's why I mostly pass by when you utter statements like the above. If someone tries to discuss with you now, small time, you go turn am into competition of who fit throw subtle jabs best.

alutacontinua:
....cos as usual, I'll ignore you once you start.

If I've ever engaged you first or asked for you opinion, it won't have been more than once - if at all. There's a wry smile on my face imagining you feeling good about the fact that your ignoring me - which I actually quite appreciate - is somehow hurting !


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^{**please holler at me here when you do that "world changing" thingy. I'll be your biggest cheerleader**}

SeaGold:
Yea but Ex already in marriage for 2 years now but bitter about losing me. I can't imagine what her hubby will be passing through cos that a loveless marriage she entered.

Forget her, forget them. He'll livewith it or deal with it his own way. You are lucky not o have been trapped. Maybe she learnt her lesson, maaybe not. Either way, ensure you learnt yours. All the best bro'. It hard out there and a bad wife just makes it hell.


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coogar:
nah.....
that man was smart - he saw the way the world was moving, planted his sons in the richest economies in the world & made them excel there.

fück einstein, rothschild is the greatest genius in the world.

SirShymex:
Lol, that's why I laugh whenever folks tout Bill Gates as the richest man in the world.
The Rothschild own the darn planet. Then you have to look at the Rockfellers, the British Royal Family, the Oil Sheikhs from the gulf etc..

They both have one master...funny how you are keen on eshcatology - especially bible based - but you haven't followed it to it's logical conclusion?

It's absolutely involves nations, thrones and empires,but it's not about men - other than their souls. Although I suspect many of you somehow get that - just scared to go there.


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As ever lots of off-point examples and willful reasoning.

What freedoms can one enjoy when living alone that one cannot when living with parents?

All that nonsense about learning to run a home. As if you don't first learn that at home?


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SeaGold:
Bro advice op.

That chapter ended 3 years ago

I was. I pointed to your input in order to direct him. A similar situation to his own - you did say you weren't even married?. Hope you are well past that now?


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carefreewannabe:
I can see you can be progressive, too. You were smart enough to figure out that I will not read more than a line of the crap you share here.

Role model?

A family that is into "church business", manipulating their sheep with useless dogmas to loot them?

Picture on the way - but don't hold your breath or stay up late !


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exebi:
Ilekokonit,

Thanks for all your thoughts and counsel.

I am really finding it hard to believe it is an issue of "competition for money" in my case. Maybe I am naive, but I do not see it. Yes, I am going through a difficult time, (which God is lifting me out of into greater heights), but my struggles have not affected her finances so I do not see why she should necessarily resent me or be competing with me.

I do see your point, however, that she may have stopped loving me and now hates me. Indeed, there is evidence to that point.

Thanks again for sharing.

Exebi, do you want to restore - not merely save - your marriage? Money is an aside here.

SeaGold:
MY OBSERVATION: In that relationship I was too weak, over nice, easily forgiving and loving and she took all those for granted.

When you have a wife with character flaws or behavioural issues (essentially immature), she will play on your good nature. Either to have her way, making you act according to her whims, hurting you due to her frustrations or failings, or playing up due to perceiving you as weak.
Read SeaGold' example quoted above

Unless your wife is pure evil, you can turn this around. All the change required will first come from you. Quit whining and get on with it. Her e despising you is nothing. If the conditions are right, she will just as readily love you like there's no tomorrow - and even claim she was only being hard to encourage you. Women can be wantonly emotional. Your job is to make her understand her emotions go "so far and no further". You have given her the rule. Take it back!


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carefreewannabe:
And what made you think I will read this crap?

Not only will you read, you will read hungrily, eagerly wait for more, and pray fervently for further pictures of your "role model" family.


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BreezyRita:
At what age should a lady stop living with her parents??
Should she live alone when She's unmarried and the parents live in the same city with her??

Singles should stay in the nest until they leave to form their own. Especially women. Obviously it's unavoidable in some instances, but where at all possible. Or staying with relatives or close family friends - or having a guardian - as proxy for family as alternative options.


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carefreewannabe:
And what makes you think that I care about my cyber reputation?

Well that's a good thing, because right now you have zero credibility. I can see you on the "West" thread showing a pathetic desire for attention. How sad. Next stop desperate, then pathetic, then wretched - we watch in and with amusement, it's not like you ever added real value, so your fading into oblivion will be no great loss !

carefreewannabe:
I am more concerned with showing people how dangerous hypocrisy and sciolism are. I don't give a damn what you and your likes think. The time when I used to argue with people in a civil way who do not deserve to be treated like my equals are over. I can only have healthy, matter-of-fact debates with healthy and intelligent people who know to distinguish between facts and beliefs; in other words with people who play in my league, Bundesliga.

Delusion as well "
Frankly, you are the one who has clearly demonstrated an inability to stick to the matter at hand and discuss the facts. So desperate you took an advanced course in emoticon usage and then went on to master in giffology - unfortunately as dumb as we are here they don't compensate for a lack of facts or reasoned and considered debate. Your problem is not for want of equals, it's you keep getting rinsed by your betters. !

carefreewannabe:
I don't like stvpid people but I have a stronger dislike for people who try to manipulate others with dangerous dogmas and twisted "faaaacts".

I don't see one factual rebuttal to the data that I posted above. Only - as is now quite typical - pained invective and slack jawed ad-hominem. And whatever you think of my intellect or reasoning, it's clearly sufficient to take a large crap on whatever you possess from a great height .

And lets not start on looks - all your huffing and puffing, gloating and gainsaying. Once you saw the pic you went deathly quiet. Literally struck dumb in the presence of beauty. Admit it, you have a "ladycrush" on my wife

Carefreewannabe - rinsed so hard she thought she was having an enema!


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Talon005:
Love the west? looool coog, things are really messed up in the west. Ched now knows this to be true.

...lots of "ordinary Joes" will know this as well in due course !


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coogar:
when a man is drunk & a woman lures him into bed for sėx, is that räpe?

Only is she is alleging it against him - even more scary !

What is rape?
According to the law, only a man can commit rape (as the penetration has to be
with a penis).

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If it's the brides "proper" mother in the pictures, should she not be accorded rightful honour at her daughters wedding? In fact, mentioning a step-mother dishonours the bride and her mother - unless that's what she asked for? I don't rightly know any of the players here, just saying.

The bride & groom look very happy. HML to them.


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coogar:
i was arguing this case with some hardline feminists at a pub sometime last week - i reduced them to rubbles. after sending him to jail, they still want his former club to sack him & bar him from ever playing football again??

when women get drunk & have sex - someone must have taken advantage of her.

when men get drunk & have sex then he must be a räpist! the law is an asś.

The Clayton guy is basically in a downward spiral. He's now playing non-league. I'm I'm pretty sure Sheffield United would have welcomed him back with open arms if not for the furoré - 150'000+ signature petition against his return.

The murky waters darken...


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Carefreewannabe,

Your post - which was pure ad-hominem - and my response have both been hidden.

I have previously noted your quite spectacualr meltdown and increasing irrelevancy on this board. Your reputation in in tatters. However, you do appear to have recovered quite quickly from the long-hose rinsing I laid on you a few days ago. The migraine has obviously receded and the lockjaw eased somewhat. You are quite resilient, it must be said !


As to the stats in my last post, you are not disputing them - please apply a modicum of wisdom and take heed . And please don't derail if you have nothing to add - which is increasingly the case lately.

Please let me know if you need any help with rehab or rebranding yourself. I continue to pray for you - most especially that you never post any pictures !


Toodles


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I managed to miss MoTD for the last 3 weeks. Not sure if my interest in footie is gradually dying or it's just timing?

Anyway, the Ched Evans saga is getting a lot of press and really polarising opinion. The barest facts I can make out are;

- Girl goes with his friend Clayton to hotel
- Ched joins them
- Ched sleeps with the girl - both claiming she was asked and consented - after Clayton
- Girl wakes up in the hotel the next morning claiming she can't remember a thing.
- Girl calls police and claims her drink was spiked and her bag stolen
- Both men arrested and charged with rape (Girl claims to have no recollection of events from some time before they even went to the hotel)
- One found guilty and one found not guilty?

I appreciate that rape is now defined in such a way that where a women is incapable of giving considered consent, she has been raped.

- Is sex now something "men do to women". I have no instances of this working in reverse?
- If both parties are drunk, can both claim to have been raped?
- Are men now responsible for womens actions under the influence as opposed to their own actions when women are under the influence?
- If a woman "regrets" sleeping with a man, she merely has to claim there was no considered consent and it's rape?


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Wifey reports directly to me in our family organisation...it's working fine !


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