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Treadway:
yea I established this with facts, even tho it still flew past your numbskull. At least I have the clarity, what do you have? Even with a million dollars I am sure you can't achieve much in terms of growing or doubling it. Like the parable of talents, I know mine and have doubled my five to ten. You are sleeping safely in the west having buried yours

So why are you looking to leave for Canada then? You've got an inverter, cheap internet, and sell foams for a living in Ibadan... what further purpose are you seeking in Canada? See that's the problem with opportunistic morons like you... in thread after thread after thread that you have commented on here in the travel section, it's the same attitude from you - abusive buffoonery, arrogant idiocy, steadfast, irredeemable ignorance, blinded only by your own delusions of grandeur. This has never been about travel or no travel for you... it's been 100% personal, smacking of bitter anger that you failed where others prospered. Nigeria is so great, yet here you are, when no one is looking, sliding into others' DMs, asking for info on how to obtain a business visa to Canada. In the interim, openly, you make yourself feel better by the over-the-top noise-making and endless chest-beating odes to your own greatness... who cares whether you double or triple your talents... to each his own.

Your sneering tone now makes sense... the questions you ask aren't really to those abroad, they are an expression of your own fears and frustrations. You want to leave Nigeria... you want to go live in Canada... but you're afraid. You've seen your friends and colleagues try and fail. You've seen them leave what you consider thriving jobs in Nigeria to end up in dead-end jobs here. So you fear that you really don't have marketable skills that can translate to a good job here... selling foam in Ibadan will guarantee you end up at McDonald's here. Besides, you're close to your 40s, too late/old to start over... so you double down... Nigeria is all you've got... selling foam and preening about how cheap internet cost is in Nigeria. Those are the antics of a coward, paralyzed by fear while claiming to have ideas to save the world. I'll give you some credit though, you do have clarity... clarity on the futility of your current position with respect to the lack of transferability of any skills you might have to the western world.

Happy foam selling in agodi by the way...

Treadway:
nah this one has the potential to change the world. You cant comprehend it. I considered Canada as we don't have the supporting technologies for it here yet. Not going there to be a simpleton without a purpose like you. I know my purpose, I have clarity on that.

Meanwhile, Izzy Vs Pereira na im dey my mind now. Maybe we continue this later. K

Don't worry, I'm sure you can get an inverter to solve the problem... mind you, internet service is cheaper in Nigeria bah?

As someone said, you are a naked opportunist, a man without character or integrity. All you have "clarity" on is money and nothing else.

Treadway:
yea I want to go to Canada with an idea that will change the world..not to live like you just slithering through with no impact or central purpose. Happy?

So basically you're a man with no character, a crook who "runs" a business by avoiding your tax obligations... a man who isn't really fulfilled in Nigeria but is mewling about being a financial "success" because he has no other choice. A man who takes advantage of the lawless state of Nigeria to keep his financial head desperately above water. When you mentioned the number of "businesses" you were into (car parts, cars, foam...) i knew exactly who you were... a bumbling fool, desperately throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks. You don't have any ideas to change Agodi in Ibadan (vitafoam won't do it buddy, neither will shilling it here on NL)... and you think you will change the world?

My dear, make up your mind... abroad isn't all it's cracked up to be, yet you want to go to Canada. What happened to your inverters?

elijah101:
Treadway … u get time … whats is your issue gon gon with people traveling abroad … because this no be argument anymore … this na personal matter … whats your angle … why e dey pain you say them decide not to stay in Nigeria

Lol one of the reasons I just stopped bothering with him... it's obvious this is personal to him, not an "intellectual discourse" as he pretends. My best guess is he must have tried leaving Nigeria at some point and it didn't work for him... he sounds more bitter than anything else.

Treadway:
I hold you? I just like intellectual discourse, not old-wives tales, from a man for that matter.

Treadway:
I am a pretty young guy, but old too. How do I mean? I'm in my 30's. If I move now, how many years will I have to begin all over again, working and saving to start a bizniz overseas, knowing fully well that it is integral to me being fulfilled. I love being in charge, I have paid my dues. How many years would I have to work now added to my age, to be able to setup a flourishing and standard business. They think starting a business overseas is beans. I estimate maybe in my 50s at the earliest. I trust God for where I will be in my 50s, even if na here. But if God has diff plans, I don't know. I do know that I am not about to start over especially when I still know what I am doing and haven't failed like catfish farmer.

So you're basically a fraud who is only championing your "business" in Nigeria because you are afraid of having to start over in a foreign country. Which is why you were asking as recently as 2 months ago about business visas in Canada? Given a chance, you'll be first in line for a foreign visa with your begging bowl, "if God has diff plans" of course.

Treadway:
how many Nigerians are building businesses outside these shores? Only if that were true, mehn I would be so proud. All this your talk, people are still doing business and succeeding at it, albeit tough. But then again, not everyone is tough, knowledgeable, and skilled enough to do business. You were not good at managing the business end of. I have done mini-importation of different items, did agric with 4 hectares of corn and cassava, sold and still selling car diagnostic equipment, sold and still selling cars, now a distributor for Vitafoam. I have never made a loss! Never! I have realised ROI of btw 50-300%. The only venture I ever put my money and lost was gambling (mmm). Of course I knew it was Ponzi, but wanted to see if I could get in and get out quick, unfortunately I hook. Most of these businesses I did were particularly easier to achieve btw 2013 to 2020. 2021 and 2022 have been tougher. I was able to set up my life with business proceeds even far more than my salary. If you don't have it in you, you don't have it ni. You failed in that business, there would have been some lessons on how you could have done it better, despite the tough business environment, if you introspected enough.

Again, most Nigerians are not setting up businesses outside these shores, and I can say that anywhere. Also, doing business isn't affordable overseas either! Yes, I know some will abuse me for it, but our non-regulated nature make barrier to entry almost non-existent to float any small-scale business, as is even the business cost/overhead. Are you kidding me?? I can wake up one day and start a canteen. Do you know the regulations and requirements I would need to meet to do that in a first world country? Taxes nko? Once money dey, bizniz go start here asap. No time.

Ps I resigned from my last job and paid employment Feb 2020. 3 years later, many economic storms later, I still stand gidigba. That should tell you something.

Hahahaha these criminal clowns. So basically you're saying Nigeria is a lawless zoo that you rip off by avoiding taxes?

Treadway:
ehn as you don swap life with them rest na. You don't have any point, darting around like person wey get ADHD. E really pain you say upon all your gragra I humble you abi. Pele. Mewling ko, Marilyn ni.

I am humble sir feel better?

ariesbull:
excuses... Wait till 65 let's check something

I’m decades from 65 and I have 2 retirement funds, apart from social security… I’ll be very ok… take care of yourself. What’s your retirement plan? Your kids or government contracts?

ariesbull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMLGOaz86AQ

I stopped watching within the first 3 minutes. She fundamentally does not understand the UK and most western countries. With the exception of perhaps the US, most are set up to ensure almost everyone has the same access to a quality standard of living, not to “build wealth”. The obsession with wealth is why Nigeria is so corrupt. She has a lot to say… from the safety of her UK home. I’d listen if she relocated to Nigeria herself.

ariesbull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydTs3irBYC8

Dr. Odon lives in England with his family by the way… you people are simple minded clowns. Keep listening to him, while he builds a future for his own kids elsewhere.

Treadway:
This nigga keeps saying I make 500k after I have typed like 7 times that I didn't even get to 500k while I was in paid employment, to drive home the fact that peeps can get shit done like build a house without being mega rich. This nigga legit did not see that ooo despite typing out those alphabets like 7 times. So this ain't only a case of ment, there seems to be a sprinkle of glaucoma too. Cos I no just understand

Lol shove it dude… the question isn’t how long it took you to make N500k per month, but how many Nigerians will EVER make even half that amount. You’re the exception, not the rule… and that is the point. You keep comparing yourself to what amounts to the rule in other countries and think you have a point.

You also keep mewling about building a house, as if that’s all it takes to live a high standard of living… that’s just idiocy to be honest. No need going into more details there. The majority of Europeans never build their own homes, none of them will swap lives with you, your house and cheap internet any day….

ariesbull:
clowns will never listen they prefer hard life of doing 3 jobs a day and earning pittance living in credit debts and mortgage debts


Leave them alone



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YunMNppdg4U

Ask Phrankleen, why hasn’t he ditched his British passport and moved permanently to Nigeria? While he is busy feeding you his half baked nonsense, he forgot to tell you he holds an ace up his sleeve that you don’t have. Some of you making noise here had your children in foreign countries for those same passports… speaking of clowns.

Treadway:
says a clown who can't get out of his own way. Jester

A monkey will be a monkey, be it in Nigeria or DC. You sir, are proof of this.

I guess that’s all you’ve got left? a shame.

You can only impress your fellow band of empty heads here with your N500k per month. Should we give you an award?

Treadway:
I'm done with you, if you haven't noticed.

I’m not interested in a dialogue with you if you haven’t noticed. You’re dumb as a rock, you simply cover it up with typing volumes. I just make sure the most egregious idiocy you type here doesn’t stand unchallenged.

ariesbull:
you too dey argue... If youbdokt anything can you please stfu

Learn

Learn what? Going by your logic, Switzerland is the worst country to live in then? Worse than India? What a joke…

This is why Nigerians find it tough in graduate schools here… not everything is as black and white.

Treadway:
not surprised. Most people that go to these dead countries chiefly go there to commit all manner of crimes.

Your statistics to support this is where? Or as I suspect, you’ve simply made one more empty claim?

Munamoqel:
see Cyprus

Ok… no one commits crimes in Nigeria?

Treadway:
and Nosa is here ..I know say na 5m per month you dey spend on feeding your family of 3 as you dey Benin so. Just a reminder, yes 500k can feed a family of 4 to stupor...contend with that..lol

One a norms if you even go who wants to be a millionaire, I don't think you would get past question 2, considering your very distorted view of FACTS. The answer is A, you hear Nosa. Na A be the answer..na mcq question backed by data, no be essay dem say make you write. Pele Nosa
To think this guy go get some younger ones wey e go dey give advice so. Imagine an adult's definition of someone balling and someone managing/suffering hinged on 'Mr Biggs'. E be like say you never marry sef, cos we wey don marry and take care of those families of 3s and 4s, no be Mr Biggs dey come to mind when you talk about food. Smh.

This is more empty drivel, loud noise anchored on zero logic.

You use yourself as a single anecdote to represent a country of over 200 million. As I asked earlier - which you have studiously refused to address, how many Nigerians earn N500k per month? Yes that can feed a family of 4… so what? A family of 4 here can eat better on a McDonald’s salary here… nothing special.

The strength of a society isn’t measured on how well a tiny minority can eat, but on how it takes care of it base poor. You don’t feed better than the average poor person here bro… for all your chest thumping.

Treadway:
PS: A short guide to the art of arguing on point! Imagine, you are on Who wants to be a millionaire and the 100million naira question is 'Which of these countries has the cheapest internet:
A. Nigeria
B. UK
C. USA
D. Canada

The simple answer is A. The answer doesn't care if your internet is high speed and is connected to 100 UHD TVs. The answer is simply A. That is how to argue on point. Let's hope at least one person here learns this today.

The art of dumb illogic and the glorification of empty noisemaking… which of those countries has the cheapest cost of education. The answer is A as well… good luck with ASUU strikes…

This is the same thing as comparing wages between Nigeria and the US by simply converting the exchange rate without taking purchasing power into account.

AnitaofEurope:
Pls ignore these people they’re so pained they cannot leave that shit hole and so jealous of people going abroad
Hahahahaha
We know their type
Make them Dey use Nigeria dey console themselves.
Ordinary Cyprus sef better pass that useless good for nothing country called Nigeria
Hahahaha

Lol agreed!

Munamoqel:
BIG LIES! TELL THAT TO THE BIRDS AS SELF CONSOLATION! iF THEM GIVE YOU SMALL APPOINTMENTS FOR NNPC LTD OR NIMASA YOU GO COLLECT SHARPLY ! NO BE THE SO CALLED SANE CLIMES UNA DEY DO BUSINESS Email .COMPROMISE . WHAT'S SANE ABOUT Rascism , Freezing weather . English defence league KKK . Killer white Cop slave per hours work .GN foods LBGT old people home , Mass shooting baazar!

Lol, why will I accept an offer at NNPC? I work for Exxon, that would be a step down in position, pay check and quality of life. Not everyone works at McDonald’s my dear.

emandman:
Funny how you all still fail to address the bigger issues - SYSTEM.
Build a successful business in Nigeria finish,you will still send your children to abroad to enjoy your money.
How many of Ovia, Elumelu, Dangote,jimoh Ibrahim and so on children have only Nigeria as citizenship.
All these if I have 20m , if I have 20 hectares should leave room for real, practicing entrepreneurs to talk.
Someone even suggest rice farm �
Don't forget people you are talking to left Nigeria o

You’ve hit the nail on the head. All this talk about inverters, cost of internet, smart energy… bla bla bla misses the mark by wide margins. I don’t live abroad because of internet or power supply… I do so because I prefer to live in a sane environment, where rules exist, not a lawless zoo. I choose to live in a predictable society, where schools work, and are mostly free, healthcare is readily available, the fire service functions, and government offices don’t take 50 years + bribes to produce a passport.

I choose to get a home on a predictable mortgage, knowing full well I own that home from the sweat of my brow, not through illegal government contracts. I choose to live in a society that allows me to freely travel anywhere I wish, where my passport is not a source of disgrace, and I am always within arms length of prompt service from the foreign consulate if I need them. I choose a society where public transport is a breeze and where we can go on road trips through the country without any fear of kidnapping, armed robbers or police checkpoints.

Far more than money, I value peace of mind… and Nigeria isn’t it.

Treadway:
ha! Aye le oo. Deflecting again. lol. Shebi we are arguing about how Naija internet is cheaper. You said I made a false claim, and I graciously supplied irrefutable facts. Next, you deflect to quality of life, yet again, like you did with your last blunder. Why are you like this? an adult for that matter. Smh. Don't do a PHD or any sort of research at all o, you will so fail. You absolutely do not know how to argue/research and stay on point.

Just empty noise making yet again… you have a high fallutin opinion of yourself, and that really is the joke. Why would I be arguing over cost of internet in Nigeria? You’re the one arguing that US internet is more expensive, as if that has anything to do with the quality of service.

ariesbull:
that dude think say folks are sleeping... It is better for me to run my business here and build it up...than go and be doing 3 jobs in USA living credit life and loneliness and 68 they will dump em in old peoples home


When you do business here in Nigeria... You know that
1.you are adding value to the community
2.you are creating wealth
3.you have a legacy to pass onto your children....cis your kids will inherit business not jobs.

We will ensure that our brands grow in Nigeria cos we strongly believe that opportunities are here in Nigeria... Asians are making it here and we will make it

You’re trying way too hard to prove Nigeria is some eldorado that it isn’t. To each his own.

ariesbull:
This one no know say many homes are living off grid in USA...

Solar Trends in the United States
The United States installed nearly four GW of PV panel capacity in the first three months of 2022 alone. The country now has enough panels to energize 22 million homes.

The problem with you be say you no too get sense.. Na all these downtown immigrants doing 3 jobs

Americans are installing solar... Many are installing hybrid system. The world is going renewable.. Now will you know tech trends when you are in Amazon warehouse

Another empty barrel comparing apples to oranges. Americans who go off grid or install solar power do so AS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE, not like Nigerians who have to compensate for government incompetence. At least unlike Nigerians, Americans have a functioning electrical grid.

The world is going renewable… Nigerians aren’t. They are doing what they’ve always had to do, fumble around in a lawless zoo to survive.

Treadway:
the problem with you is that despite your abroad exposure and high speed internet, you are still ignorant. It is one blunder after the other. A roller coaster of sorts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/africa.businessinsider.com/local/lifestyle/ghana-has-the-cheapest-internet-in-sub-saharan-africa-at-dollar061-for-1gb/pm57q37.amp

https://www.cable.co.uk/mobiles/worldwide-data-pricing/
This is the previously shared link. This is the 3rd time i'm sharing it. It shows the countries with cheapest data. Subsaharan Africa has 5 out of those countries. Nigeria is one of those 5 @ 0.71. UK is 0.79, Canada 5.94, USA wasn't specified in the article but a cursory search puts it at 5.62. Wetin remain!?

Excerpts from the cable link earlier referenced.
The average price of 1GB of mobile data in all four North American countries is in excess of the global average of USD 3.12, making it the most expensive region overall. Greenland is the cheapest country in the region with an average cost of USD 3.36 and the most expensive is Canada (USD 5.94).

Sub-Saharan Africa has just five countries among the top 50 cheapest in the world – Ghana, in 40th place overall, is cheapest in the region at USD 0.61. The region also has five out of the ten most expensive countries in the world, with Saint Helena the most expensive in the world (USD 41.06), joined by São Tomé and Príncipe (USD 29.49), Botswana (USD 15.55), Togo (USD 12.94) and Seychelles (USD 12.66) at the bottom of the table.

The report showed that Ghana has the cheapest mobile data price in all of Sub-Saharan Africa, as the cost of 1GB mobile data in the country costs $0.61. In second place is Somalia, where the cost of 1GB mobile data is $0.63. Nigeria ranks third on the list as 1GB mobile data in the country costs $ 0.71. In fourth place is Tanzania, where the cost of 1GB mobile data is $ 0.71. Sudan rounds up the top five (5) list with the price of 1GB mobile data is said to cost $0.75.

This is simply dumb. Simply claiming US internet costs are higher than that of Somalia is pointless. What is the quality of life that the cheap internet cost in Sudan gets you? Cost of education in Nigeria is a fraction of what it costs in the UK, Canada or the US… yet these threads are full of Nigerians begging for visas to come study here. This thread is essentially a parody of the ignorant preaching to themselves. What next… gasoline is cheaper in Nigeria?

WIZGUY69:
Must be mental problem
500k/month in Nigeria is equivalent to 20k$/month in the US. And Yes! You don't have it in your account.
Mr Converter
Small discussion, you people will convert naira to dollar just to feel good, like you spend naira over there.

N500k is equivalent to $20k? I’d be interested in how you did the math.

ariesbull:
Which one you dey talk... High speed internet isn't that big... For you to pay $75 which is almost 60k here for high speed internet... It is a bit high. I am into IT... when you say high speed tell me the MBPS...thata no big deal at least 5G is here also in Nigeria and I know for sure that not all states in USA have 5G

You think that Nigeria is backward.. All these guys you are funny... Installing smart joke system in your home is easy naaa... Na simple Big Data and cloud system, you get sensors and automate your lightning system. We have smart switches... If you have a project I can deploy SMART HONE SOLUTIONS FOR YOU in Nigeria.. Don't make it as if it's a big thing. Your curtains will slide by itself, your light will on by itself... In short with the IPTV you can monitor your home anypart of the world...


We can deploy remote motion sensors that can even capture and video immidiately when there is motion in your premises and you watch it real time... Dude all those one you are talking na old technology naaaa... SMART HOME solution na old tech...what I am doing is smart energy solution... It can switch from grid to inverter and conserve your energy...

So don't make it look as if these things are new....it isn't expensive....i can deploy then for you here


Nice moves on your Korea trip though

I’m not going to waste my time with your drivel. But “smart energy” solution? Is that a joke? Who uses an inverter in serious countries?

Treadway:
lol. still clowning huh? Nothing do you, fool's paradise is still paradise

For educational purposes only
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/10/06/heres-why-high-speed-internet-is-so-expensive-in-the-us.html
Even their own media outlets no argue am, but I trust you to always be a let-down at the end of the day. I do debate wella for secondary school, public school for that matter. Maybe na why I dey sharper.

The problem with this is that you did not read your own link. It compares US internet prices to those of Europe and Asia, NOT Nigeria. So what was your point?

Treadway:
ok o. Me, I don't eat indomie/golden penny...these our instant noodles sha. Too many chemicals. I hate it and don't believe it is a healthy food (tho I can't prove this) BUT my padi's wey dey avoid am na cost dem talk say be their reason not health. Also, I have read many posts from people here, either they are advising others or the people themselves are talking about how they have decided to reduce/replace Nigerian foods, and it is always for cost reasons. If you look around, you are sure to see these posts. It's all good sha.

This, in a nutshell is a microcosm of your entire posts - sheer ignorance laced with arrogance, knows next to nothing about life abroad, other than what your “padis” tell you and think you have a clue what you’re talking about. I had to laugh at the stupid claim that internet in the US is more expensive… as someone rightly responded, we get what we pay for. I pay $75/month for high speed internet. Here, high speed means just that, high speed and it is constantly on 24 hrs/day, 7 days/week. It runs my entire whole home alarm system, three 4K UHD streaming platforms with no lag, HD baby monitor, automated home lighting system, all cellphones and laptops. I’m currently in Korea on business and I can view my baby’s room in clear real time video and control my lighting system from my hotel room here… How much does your “cheaper” internet get you?

Treadway:
couldn't resist huh. You defaulted to this stale line.. I actually hoped you were of sound mind

Weren’t you the first to waffle on about your “financial literacy”, N500k per month salary and how much your inverter system costs? Now you have a problem? Not everyone is in awe of your “financial literacy”. You are poor by foreign standards dude.

I initially refrained from saying anything about finances. It was simply hilarious to me that you thought what you earned was a reasonable salary. I earned more than N500k per month as a poor graduate student… and I didn’t need an inverter to guarantee 5 straight years of uninterrupted electricity supply. I paid my taxes and the government did it’s job. You’re a joke.