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As I suspected, much of what you read here are lies (I was very skeptical that a British school would treat such an important issue as tuition with no clear rules, allowing students to pay whenever they could), and the OP has no one but himself to blame for not reading the terms and conditions of his offer. Follow along...

004gist:
If you are planning on schooling in UK and you come across or you have chosen northumbria university either for September intake or January intake please stay clear from the University.

They have now put in place a non realistic installment payment plan. Imagine the school asking students to pay 2500 per month in just 90 days and you have no voice or choice.

There are a few things to note here...
1. The OP indicates that for September or January intake, students are NOW being asked to pay the remainder of their fees "in just 90 days". That means for a September intake, the due date would be the beginning of December and for a January intake would be the beginning of April.

2. The OP suggests that this is a bait and switch by the school, unfair, and takes away the voice or choice of the student.

THIS IS FALSE. The OP simply failed to read the terms and conditions for his admission. I had nothing to do this evening, so I took time to read through Northumbria University applicant terms and conditions from 2017 - 2024 (7 years)... EVERY SINGLE ONE has the lines below (note, the only changes over the years have been to the minimum deposit due):

Payment terms for all programmes (except Pre-sessional English Programmes): a minimum of £8,000
or 50% of the annual tuition fee (whichever is higher) is due on or before enrolment. Final Instalments are as follows:
• For entry to Term 1 the remaining fees for your programme should be paid by 1 December.
• For entry to Term 2 the remaining fees for your programme should be paid by 1 April.

In other words, the school never changed its payment terms at all. It simply never enforced it and allowed students to stretch payments well beyond the applicant terms in its policy document. Rather than a bait and switch, the school has simply decided to enforce its long-existing rules, that all students should have been aware of if they simply did the due diligence to read their terms and conditions. The OP failed to do so... instead, he relied on anecdotal reports from fellow students.

The school has not asked students to pay anything per month, it has simply asked students to pay what they implicitly agreed to when they opted to take the school's unconditional offer, paid their deposit, obtained a visa, and registered for classes. The school is not responsible for your inability to plan, or your duplicity. It is not obligated to extend its terms and conditions for you, because you were not truthful to yourself about your ability to fund your education.

The UK isn't Nigeria, where terms and conditions arent worth the paper they are written on. The OP is simply learning that lesson the hard way. A word is enough for the wise.

Outstandingmam:
Mr, I'm not a naive Nigerian. I know what obtains. I've been traveling outside Nigeria for vacations as a secondary school student before I thought of going for higher studies so spare me that patronizing tone.

My issue with you and your likes is your huge empathy deficit. I always wished to join my voice to the threads that are opened to warn about unbridled desire to just leave Nigeria but the penchant to tag us as haters prevented me. Imagine how you came swinging into my comment? I don't like Internet arguments and I deliberately avoid them

Nigerians believe they can do anything and it's just not true. This OP and others like him made errors which they shouldn't make. The urge to game the system is in most Nigerians because we hardly follow the rules. I'm a stickler for rules but will I throw my child away because he broke the rules?

He has made his mistakes, he is stewing in it now, why do you think you need to turn the knife? What benefit is it to you? Or to him? Depression is real. I'm only being my brother's keeper pls.

UK as a japa route don cast. That's the basic truth. If you don't have the funds, forget about it. Yesterday I learned that a guy staying in an estate close to ours sold his 3 bedroom fine house for 40m (ordinarily, 60m is too cheap for such) to go to the UK because his wife got care job. They're back to Lagos now hiding from everybody. I can't imagine being in the same shoes with that family but I'm sure they were warned but refused to hear.

I struggle to see the difference between the above highlighted and your basis for castigating justwise? Where is your empathy?

fastseo:
pure white abi... Whites from US, other European countries.
I know what I am saying. I am in the UK.
Most stops at BSC and their likes.
Remove all those international students and see those big names crying for funds

Stop degrading Nigerians..
The average UK can't bring huge chunk of money for a project.
Like in Nigeria. You see someone wakes up. Take 60 million to be building houses. Here what they do is to keep building credit score.. And you do that by buying on credit n never default throughout your pay date.
Who brings money to buy car in UK? For where.. Once you have good credit score.. Banks, auto shops will be begging u to come take a car . They might give you 20,000 pounds car and spread the payment over 20 years. You see someone paying 80 pounds in a month for a car

Talk of houses, school etc if you don't have a soft payment plans that runs into years... Then forget it.
This very reasons are why the universities are hungry for international students that provide immediate funds

Have you seen them all over the TV begging the government not to drive away foreign students?

Even the parliament acknowledged that foreign students brings over £41.9 billion to the UK economy each year.... I mean in a single year.. They can't achieve that with UK student that can't bring in immediate funds into the sector

Most of those students are from Nigeria, India, etc which they called their biggest market

DE play

Let me ask, these schools didn't exist before Nigerians and Indians?

004gist:
I said pass me man. Stop quoting me.

We aren't in the same class or level.
See your mouth like full fees... Where can you work to raise 40 million plus in Nigeria.

Do you understand what you are saying? Full fees+ living expenses plus others fees is above 40 million.


It's like you are from a wealthy family... Can I send my account so you lend me money... Yeye de smell

When you applied for your visa, you indicated you had sufficient funds to cover full fees + living expenses. You complaining now is a waste of your time. You should have done what others did - find schools that provide scholarships or fellowships to cover your bills or find cheaper schools. Also make sure you extend your "research" to calling your school directly rather than relying on anecdotal experiences.

004gist:
Go back and read the post again..
I was referring to Nigerians who don't have the full fees but will work n pay their fees.

I know you are from a super high rich home so just read and pass. u must not comment on all threads just read n pass

The point you are assiduously refusing to admit - your indication that you have full fees and did not need to resort to work and pay your fees was the very basis for your visa being approved. How then do you blame the school for a bait and switch?

Saturnalia:
No, it isn’t a win win for the West. If the Cowardly gang of 30+ Countries are not so scared of Iran, they should move their fleet towards the Strait of Hormuz and bomb Iran rather than flexing their muscles with defenseless Yemen’s Houthis.

I think you give Iran far more credit than it deserves. It could if the US wanted to wipe out Iran in one day. However, the population of Iran is almost 90m. You have to factor in that many refugees become a serious problem since more than half of them want to emigrate to Europe and the US, who don't want them. It will sink the entire Middle East into a war of attrition - Syria, Lebanon, Yemen... with Iraq and Saudi Arabia bearing the brunt of the fallout of splinter terror groups. It isn't about fear or lack of will, it's the problem of what comes after. America took in millions of displaced Europeans after WW2, we certainly do not want even 1% of Iran's population near our borders.

Diplomacy is hard... it does not permit thoughtless posts from folks like you. But you go on saber rattling.

fastseo:
15000 dollars is about 24 million.

It's not easy to get that in Nigerian economy let's be frank.

Even me also in UK, I came with less than that but with flexibility in payment plan I de alright.

That UK thread you saw there booming do u think they have complete funds?
Ghanaian, Nigerians etc even Indians don't always come with complete fund. Since dependant was banned how far with the thread?
Like someone said.. Let them do block account if they are serious.

Finally it seems you have lost touch with reality Nigerian forgetting that over 90% now stay below poverty line.

The laissez-faire attitudes of you and the OP are why more than 90% of Nigerians will remain below the poverty line for decades to come. Those Brits didn't build their country by lying on immigration forms and justifying it by saying everyone does it.

fastseo:
How many UK citizens de go school up to MSc
Enter their university you will understand that without Indians, Nigerians, Ghanaians, few Chinese are holding their university.

In my class no one British all are Nigerians except few Indians... No pure white

I would hazard a guess and say you probably don't see them because you are attending a poorly ranked school that none of them would waste their money on. Somehow the UK has trained lawyers, engineers, doctors, and scientists... where do you think they are attending school? Oxford perhaps... which I doubt has a payment plan you can afford.

004gist:
I did research and asked people going or scholing there. They confirmed they spread payment based on negotiations.
But the school said they stop that this year.
It seems their projected revenue fell due to ban on those bringing their spouse so they turn aggression on we.

You did "research", not by speaking with the school directly to fully understand their payment plan, but other students who have no power to change the school's payment plan?

This is like telling your professor I did my research by reading Wikipedia.

004gist:
If you are planning on schooling in UK and you come across or you have chosen northumbria university either for September intake or January intake please stay clear from the University.

They have now put in place a non realistic payment plan. Imagine the school asking students to pay 2500 per month in just 90 days and you have no voice or choice.

The only time you should proceed is only when you have this funds in your account but if you wish to work and pay your fees as usual please I beg you leave the school.

They block access to portal, that means you can't submit assignments, participate in lectures, take attendance etc.

I decided to voice out to follow Nigerians not to make this mistakes because many are now stranded after spending huge money

No matter what any agent will tell you please stay away unless you have all your school fees



Northumbria University payment plan Newcastle or London
Payment plan of northumbria school

They are not stranded, they simply failed to plan properly. Not the school's fault.

Rdfactor:
Hi John, update on this;

I couldn’t eventually travelled to the US as I earlier indicated due to health reason. Seems I’ll need to be applying to get a new F1 visa if I want to be going by Fall. But the issue my SEVIS wasn’t terminated due to “authorised early withdrawal”, it was rather terminated due to “Transfer -No show “ cuz I couldn’t check in since I didn’t even travel. I don’t exactly know what this does to my immigration record, but I feel it’s not feeling good. How do we go about this? Won’t embassy frown at something like this even if I decide to appear for a new F1 visa in the future.

Note: the school has defffer my admission and funding to Fall, and will issue me a new i20

cc: Twoods.

Sorry for the health challenges, hope you get well soon. The letter is straightforward. You will get asked why you did not show up at the ISO... be sure to take along this letter and your medical records to prove that you were not able to for factors beyond your control.

Did you graduate and receive your certificate?

advanceDNA:
I just told u Iran is a full Islamic state yet u don't understand that they don't run democracy or free state law, where citizens have a level of freedom to do as they please

..... Do u even know what law means.....

...Even in Nigeria where there is democracy...u can't go to some.parts of the north where shariah is fully constitutional and not wear hijab or u mistakenly wear mini skirt...

See ..I don't dialogue with low IQ people..

It's nauseating....

The real low IQ is arguing that a grown woman should be lashed in public for her choice of clothing...

buggatiboss:
stupid fool, why not call for the destruction of the nation that kills 1000 civilians weekly on average

Perhaps you meant Iran, which has been sponsoring violence in Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon for years. 1000 civilians per week is small potatoes to them.

But of course they are Muslim so that’s ok…

sunboy:
Wake up! Who declared Hezbollah an illegitimate government? And who also declared them a terrorist ?

Wake up from your slumber sir.

What slumber? Hezbollah is a government within the sovereign states of Syria and Lebanon? What exactly does it do? Other than destabilizing those countries, does it offer social and governmental services to the people?

Your loyalty to Islam over decency and common sense has warped your understanding of right and wrong.

usmanssy50:
Israel is just a small fry that depends on united state for weapons and finance if not for US Israel will not survive a War even with Hamas past 2 days .
They kill IRAN General so as to drag US into a War because they can't stand IRAN Military Power even for a second

1. Israel defeated 7 Arab nations, including Egypt, Iraq and Saudi Arabia in 1948 without US intervention.
2. Israel does not really need the US, it is a nuclear power (including nuclear-armed submarines), its Merkava tanks are regarded to be better than US Abram’s tanks. It developed the Arrow ballistic missile shield itself.
3. Read more here - iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2022/aug/11/timeline-israeli-attacks-iran

Let’s face it… but for the US, Israel could have destroyed Iran.

sunboy:
Was Bibi and Zelensky on vacation in White House ?

You want to pretend Hezbollah is a legitimate government rather than a terror group no different from ISIS?

sunboy:
Oh, Iran is at fault for getting her commander killed on a foreign land … ?

You want us to believe this commander was in Syria on vacation? Quite clearly he was there to work with Hezbollah which is currently firing missiles into Northern Israel.

Daodudavid:
First Good morning all the scholars in the house, been a while I visited this forum.

I have a very important inquiry here for my sister who is currently trying to transition into the USA medical field, So, by any chance Do we have any Nigerian female Medical students or doctor in this forums who has done this successfully?
If so please what are your challenges?
How did you transits?
Any further education or licensing needed?
What could she possibly expect?


Your answers to my questions would be highly appreciated.

Assume your sister is on an F1 visa. The move to medical school is possible but difficult. Medical schools here prioritize US citizens and permanent residents so you will need to go above and beyond on the MCAT. Even at that, you may only get put on a temp list. My advice, don’t worry about the difficulty, focus on killing your undergrad and MCAT.

Funny. She spends a lot of time complaining about the backlash but doesn’t tell us exactly what she claims to have accomplished at COP28.

Rdfactor:
Here’s the question;

I recently came to Nigeria from the United States to renew my F1 Visa. The visa was renewed on December 1st and I graduated from my Masters program from my old school on December 15th. I was supposed to be resuming in Spring 2024 to a new school that already issued me an i20 for my PhD. However, I can’t travel out of Nigeria at this time to resume my study due to health reasons which will be resolved by January. By that time, I can no longer travel and the i20 will be cancelled as a result.

I have already made steps to defer my admission in the new school so that I can attend by Fall. The question I have is that can I still use my renewed F1 visa to enter the United States with a new i20 given to me by this particular school or another school entirely? Or I’ll need to apply for a new visa using i20 from a new school or from the school that I’ve already transferred my SEVIS into?

Updated: On second thoughts, i re-read your post in more detail and i have a couple of questions. You indicated that you came to renew your F1 visa. This visa was renewed on Dec 1, but you did not graduate until Dec 15. That suggests to me your visa was renewed based on the I20 for the school where you graduated with a masters degree.

You then said that you were to resume in spring to a NEW school (not the school from which you recently graduated?) that has issued you an I20.

If the above is true, then no, you cannot travel using the renewed I20 because it is tied to the school where you recently graduated from. You will need a new visa for the NEW school that issued you an I20, or any other school.

Best of luck and hope you get better soon.

k4kenny:
I will call Satanyahu whatever I like and his destruction of Gaza to steal their land would be his ultimate destruction. After 80 days, what exactly has his incompetent army achieved? How many hostages have they rescued? How many Hamas members have they killed? You think winning a war is determined by the number of civilians killed and buildings destroyed? Hamas is dealing with their useless army, why do you think they withdraw their Golani brigade?

https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-golani-troops-leave-gaza-after-heavy-shujaiya-losses

They will not report how their soldiers and tanks are being damaged by ordinary Hamas militants. Billions of American taxpayers money, nothing to show except civilian death and destruction of civilian homes. Israhell is winning indeed.

I didn't bother to read your nonsense epistle, because nothing can change the fact. The land was peacefully occupied by Muslims, Christians and ethnic Jews until European Zionist demons came with death and destruction. Nothing justifies mass murder and expelling people from their homes, even if all you met there was a barren land. These people are not middle eastern in anyway, they're European imposters. The real Jews of Palestine love their Muslim brothers. Zionists are the cancer of this world, they must be cut off and discarded onto the trash where they belong.

PS: Satanyahu's kids are in the US living the life while ordinary people's kids have been sent to die for greedy Zionists.

1. Of course you will call Netanyahu whatever you want, but say nothing about Ismail Haniyeh… you’re Muslim, this has always been about religion to you.

2. Of course you wont read my epistle, why bother letting the facts get in the way of hamas propaganda?

3. Make up your mind, if hamas is damaging the Israeli army, why are they begging for a ceasefire then?

4. You know where Netanyahu’s kids are, but failed to mention that the families of Hamas leaders are all hobnobbing in Qatar, far away from the Gaza they use as human shields. Did you know Haniyeh is worth $5b? Who cares? they worship the same god as you and that, frankly, is all that matters.

Rdfactor:
Hi Twood. I’d have love to reach out to you. I have a case at hand which is pretty pertinent. I would want your opinion on it. Thank you so much. I have try to send u a Nairaland DM

Why don’t you ask the question here?

k4kenny:
1) Satanyahu has been openly supporting funding to Hamas. He wants Hamas empowered so he can have an excuse to destroy and take over Gaza. How do you think Hamas came into existence. It was funded and created by the state of Isreal to overthrow the government of Yaseer Arafat. Kinda of like how the USA created Al qaeda, ISIS as 'resistant movements'

Watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27esxkQtfTc?si=KmnBXc8kKGDOkrHf



Satanyahu told his Likud colleagues back in 2019: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO9q7KMMDKs?si=gCkYEyqRemXh2dKJ



Always support your 'points' with verifyable evidence. I hate reading baseless nonsense.

Life in Palestine before the demonic european zionists were shipped in. It was a thriving lant that exported olives oranges and a pilgrim site for the major Abrahamic faiths. Christians, Muslims and ethinc Jews all lived together in peace and harmony until the terrorists from europe came to ethnically cleanse the land by murdering thousands of indigenous Palestinians, wiping off 512 villages and turning them to jewish settlements. Does this look like a desert to you?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MovbEFuDIrg?si=rNcvdzsACvsaDezy


for example the city of Ashkelon you cited read bolded:

I’m not going to waste time with much of the fact-free emotional drivel here. Calling Netanyahu satan is meaningless gibberish. His army will destroy whatever is left of Gaza, while Hamas top brass hide away with their families in Qatar. Are you aware Ismail Haniyeh is worth over $5b while his people suffer for his folly? And you think Netanyahu is the problem?

Now i want to address the fraudulent video you posted. 0:39 says Palestinians built roads and railroads… this is misleading. Prior to 1948, the term “Palestinians” mostly referred to Jews. You can see this in the passport of the British mandate of Palestine at the time. The back of the passport clearly states “land of Israel” in Hebrew. Another example, today’s “Jerusalem Post” started as “Palestinian Post” in 1932. It changed name in 1948. So for the unsuspecting, when you see the term “Palestinian” prior to 1948, it does NOT mean Arabs as we know it today. So here goes:

1) The railroad implied in that video is the Jerusalem-Jaffa railroad built by a Jew… Yosef Navon in the 1890s. The Lumiere brothers photograph the railroad in the first moving video of the British mandate of Palestine in 1896.

2) The 1931 world’s almanac makes an interesting note - it reports 600 miles of new roads, 200 schools built and over 150 thriving industries in Palestine. It notes that this was all accomplished with an investment of 1.2m pounds, 92% of which came from Jews! So yes, the video talks about “Palestinian” roads, but hides the truth behind who built them.

3) 0:42-0:44… the video claims British occupation of Palestine loomed large. This attempts to give the false impression that the British colonized an existing country/peoples. The truth is that the British gained control of Palestine after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1917/18. Palestine has NEVER existed as an independent entity.

4a) 0:54 claims the British sought to establish a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. This is true, but is built on the premise that this land was indigenous to Arabs. This is false… tomorrow, we celebrate the birth of the world’s most famous Jew, born in Bethlehem over 2000 years ago… on the very land Arabs now claim to be ancestral to them? Such dishonest double speak is laughable.

4b) 1:01, the video makes the claim that “many Jews migrated to the region after 1933…” This is true… however it leaves out yawning gaps in facts. First, it avoids mentioning the large Arab migration to Palestine at the same period. Second, it leads the viewer to believe Jewish presence in the land was relatively recent. This is false. Tel Aviv, the thriving capital of Israel today was built by Jews on desert land in 1909…

4c) 1:15, the video cuts to the 1947 plan to divide Palestine into 2 independent states for Arabs and Jews. This is partially true, but as with much of the Arab narrative, it is misleading… the British mandate of Palestine from 1918 included the areas of Gaza, modern day Israel, Judea/Samaria (renamed the West Bank after Jordan captured it in 1948) and modern day Jordan. Modern day Jordan, which is 75% of the British mandate, was carved out and given to the Hashemite royal family from Saudi Arabia (as a gift for their support during the war to defeat the Ottomans) in 1922. 95% of Jordanians are Palestinian Arabs!

In other words, the British mandate was divided into 3 - 2 independent states for Arabs (Jordan = 75% and Gaza/Judea/Samaria ~12.5%) and 1 Jewish independent state (Israel ~ 12.5%). Arabs REFUSED. The Arab league invaded Israel in 1948, and lost… too bad.

As for Ashkelon… couple of things to note. This coastal city is over 3000 years old and is mentioned in several historical texts and even the Bible (Joshua 13:3 and Judges 1:18 are the part of the recorded evidence indicating Jewish conquest of the land). Ashkelon comes from the Semitic word for “weight” or “shekel”… which as you know, has always remained the Hebrew currency, till date. The Encyclopedia entry for Ashkelon does an excellent job on the historical evidence for the population of the city. Several letters from 1110 AD indicate the presence of a strong Jewish community. A letter from the 1150s describes the population of Ashkelon as 200 Jews and 300 samaritans. The Jewish presence in Ashkelon diminished greatly after the invasion of the Ottomans.

The Arab town of al-migdal Wikipedia mentions is NOT Ashkelon, rather it is a town founded near the ancient ruins of Ashkelon. Important to get facts right.

k4kenny:
Did Isreal completely withdraw from Gaza though or it's just another fairytale lying Zionists wants their puppets to peddle.

Yes, Isrealis were expelled from Gaza in 2005, but Isreal took complete control of their land, air and sea borders, essentially shutting them inside the strip. To leave the strip is an herculean task thanks to your zionist puppet masters. This is why Amnesty international labelled it an 'open air prison'. Go and verify.



Oh, but they have second third class Isreali passports that cannot be used without Isreal's authorisation. Isreal IS an apartheid state, perhaps even worse than the one in South Africa. That is why the South Africans are the most vocal in their support for the Palestinians- they've been there!



Now this is downright horrible and insensitive. Have you asked yourself how they became refugees in the first place? Were they not the ones living comfortably with ethnic Jews and Christians until the European zionists were shipped in to massacre them and expel them from their homes? How would you feel if foreigners trooped in to kill your family en masse and subject the rest to inhumane conditions? On YOUR own ancestral lands? let's be absolutely clear: these zionist terrorists ARE NOT the Isrealites of the bible.

You’re most likely Muslim. That is what drives such yawning ignorance.

1. If Israel essentially shut down the entire Gaza Strip, then explain how they are able to import thousands of rockets to fire at Israel? Where do you think they got the materials to build sophisticated strip-wide tunnels? Lastly, is Israel also responsible for the Egyptian side of the border?

2. Saying Arab Israelis are third class citizens is an abhorrent lie. Arabs in Israel fight in the IDF, have their own political party represented in the Knesset. One of the Supreme Court justices in Israel is Arab.

3. The idea that Arabs are ancestral to cities like Nazareth, Beer Sheva, Dan, Ashkelon, Bethlehem is too laughable to bother disproving. It is the height of intellectual dishonesty to claim that Arabs are ancestral to lands that they decided to name in Hebrew. Tel Aviv was built by Jews from empty desert in 1909. Come up with better lies.

Honiejenny:
I am new here. Please guys i need my transcript reviewed so I know where I fumbled.

I went for my first F1 visa attempt in Lagos and I got denied.

Transcript:
Appointment date: December 4th
Funding : Self funding
Master degree in business administration and management

Vo: what university are you going to:
Answer: I am going to the university of Bleep to pursue a degree in masters of business administration and management. “Vo started typing and I continued talking”….. it is a 2yr program which begins Jan 2nd 2024 and ends Jan 1st 2024.

Vo: what do you do?
Answer: I currently work as a business development manager with xxxx. I have been working with this company for the past 5yrs. My roles are “Vo cuts in” what is the company about ” I answered:

Vo: how much do you earn

Answer: I earn an annual salary of 3.6m, which is a monthly salary of 300k naira. I also co-own a spa with my sister whereby I handle the administrative section of the spa and my sister handles the operational section of the spa. I also earn a Monthly salary of 700k naira in profits. My total salary monthly is 1m naira after tax

Vo: ok thank you but you are not eligible for this USA visa

I was not asked any further questions or allowed to explain myself.

But I am scheduled for another interview next year February 8th.

Please can you guys check and let me know where I can work on and correct myself for the next interview.

Thank you

What school did you apply to?

Solitechworld:
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/04/27/abusive-israeli-policies-constitute-crimes-apartheid-persecution

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-11-29/gaza-palestinian-prisoners-hostage-exchange-detention-israeli-prisons

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/27/990993903/israel-accused-of-apartheid-crimes-by-human-rights-watch

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60197918

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56249927

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/israel-un-experts-condemn-record-year-israeli-violence-occupied-west-bank

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses


If you want more

You cited human rights watch... I mean... considering you accused me of bias.

Funded by the Qataris - https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1700763578-human-rights-watch-under-fire-for-allegedly-accepting-millions-in-qatar-funds

Accused of anti-Israel bias by their own employees - https://www.timesofisrael.com/outgoing-human-rights-watch-senior-editor-blasts-groups-infected-work-on-israel/

Read the opinion of the founder of HRW - https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/opinion/20bernstein.html?_r=1&em

lol speaking of reading what you want to see... dude you have zero clue how the world works.

KnownUnknown:
Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has control over their rights. This includes Palestinians living in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), as well as displaced refugees in other countries.

There is a stupid aspect of this comment above:

1. Yet the Hamas attack has come from Gaza, a land which Israel completely withdrew from in 2005. So its clear, occupation isn't the problem.

2. Apartheid means both parties are citizens of the same country... Palestinian Arabs are not Israeli citizens. It is not the fault of Jews that Muslim Arabs have failed to govern themselves competently. Israel doesn't owe them a functioning society.

3. The world has faced refugees for centuries... Palestinians are the only people on earth who inherit refugee status for generations. At some point you'll need to grow up and move on with your lives.

Solitechworld:
You want me to use a Zionist company to search for the truth about Zionist? Next time use DuckDuckGo bro... There are evidences on Twitter and real documentaries to watch on the real truth about what is going on..

You want me to use Washingtonpost , Israeli company that belongs to the most horrible Psychopaths ever existed in the history of human to search the truth about Israeli?

From your favorite DuckDuckGo, a reuters article saying the exact same thing as the WashingtonPost - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-egypt-hamas-idUSBREA230F520140304/

The facts are not on your side... at some point, the Muslim world needs to stop acting as if a jew is hiding under their beds.

KnownUnknown:
Israel is a rogue state. It is violating over 30 UN Security Council resolutions, dating back to 1968, resolutions that require action by Israel and Israel alone [1].

This is laughably naive or deliberate stupidity. No one takes these "resolutions" seriously. Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked... how many resolutions has the UN Security Council made? Assad destroyed the entire city of Homs, using chemical weapons. How many UN Security Council resolutions were issued?

Lets stop pretending that these "resolutions" are anything other than bowing to antisemitic Islamic tyrants.

Calling Israel a "rogue state" where we have Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Iran... is a joke.

Solitechworld:
Lmao, what truth? Where are your evidences to back your supposed truth? is it truly the truth or you just want it to be d truth so bad that you turned blind eye to the concrete evidences that nolify your claims, like your belief that "Jesus is God" when every evidence even from your book prove otherwise.

It seems you want to bring religion debate in... If I should start with you, you will run... But I won't... I have more Christian friends here than you can think of...

This is a stupid argument. You should use google next time:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/09/23/jordan-acts-to-enforce-hamas-ban/1742998a-7a9c-4e62-8eb1-25fedf4f7f3e/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31674458

KnownUnknown:
Unprovoked? Do youraelf a favor and read about Israel’s occupation and settlement building. The rouge state might might be winning the current battle with support from their American sponsors but time is preganant with vengeance that will be unleashed on their self-righteous supremacist asses wherever in the world they can be touched.

Muslims, forever threatening violence...

1. Israel has not had a presence in Gaza since 2005, so no occupation or settlement building to provoke an attach.

2. Israel is a legitimate state, recognized by everyone who isn't Muslim.

3. Israel has been winning for 75 years. They now have enough nuclear weapons to send you all to the stone age. So take the chance.

4. If you're threatening to kill jews anywhere in the world, your luck just ran out. Give it a try... then whine about "genocide" when they or another western country responds with maximum force to you barbarians.

Solitechworld:
What are your news Sources? CNN right? even BBC and other news outlets refuse to tag them a terrorist.

What do we call Israeli that has been killing, and maltreating Palestinian For decades? If you are to Tag them a terrorist because of the exaggerated Oct. 7 incident, and mind you, series of lies about that day have been debunked... Then Israel should be the father of Terrorism.

These are established facts... not worth debating frankly.

The rest of your diatribe is the same basic Islamic taqiyya. You folks cannot tell the truth even if your lives depended on it.