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Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:21am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
I refused to be a Christian of your kind. I refused to be part of Babylon!

1 pt 5:13

Your sister church here in Babylon sends you greetings, and so does my son Mark.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:17am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
At this point, I'm convinced that you didn't read about Simon Magus well and his venturing into Rome.

Did I not said that this sorcerer also parades himself as an apostle of Christ, and he was the one that bear the title of a 'peter' in Rome?

Please go back and read well.

Hope u no get comprehension problem.
the source u used in claiming that simon magnus went to rome is eusebius, that same eusebius said peter went to rome and opposed simon magnus.

that clearly show that peter opposed magnus in rome and was different from him.
can simon magnus oppose himself?

Christianity Etc › Re: Was Peter A Pope? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:11am On Jan 07, 2017

Papist:
The testimony of all the early Christians from Rome, Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, Constantinople, Carthage etc says Peter was the first bishop of Rome. So I really don't care what the founder of the SDA made up in 19th century America.

Seconded

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Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:11am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
No, you really need to try harder!

All you keep doing is running from pillar to post. I have provided my own sources and they are verifiable.

Where are your own sources

PS: The earlier you deal with the true history and sorcerer founder of your church, the better for you.

abeg, which notable historian claim justin martyr and
ignatius were gnostics?
which notable historian claims simeon magnus
was confused as simon peter?

Christianity Etc › Re: Was Peter A Pope? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:09am On Jan 07, 2017

orisa37:
Yes. St. James was also a Pope in Alexandria

No, the pope in alexandria was st mark the evangelist not st james.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:04am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
Tales by moonlight. Do I look to you like one of those pentecostal members?

Please, find them and narrate these tales to them.

I guess u arent a xtian then, weytin u dey find here?

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:01am On Jan 07, 2017*

Splinz:
I've already given you a brief of Eusebius, that he recorded both for the true and your false church. After all, he was a historian anyways, with greater loyalty to the enperor of course. So I have seen his works, both for the true Church and yours!

Why can't you deal with other notably historians? What is it with Eusebius? Is he the only one I quoted?

which notable historian claim justin martyr and ignatius were gnostics?

which notable historian claims simeon magnus was confused as simon peter?
abi na acbcc?

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:57am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
Lol... Defense of a drowning man.

My dear, verifiable sources are scattered everywhere. Anyways, this is staggering history to people like you. I know you're already used to the lies of your false church.

Simon Magus is the 'peter' Eusebius is talking about. Just learn to deal with it my brother.

PS: Eusebius is not the only historian quoted. So quit it!

eusebius diffentiated them
5. And coming to the city of Rome, by the mighty co-operation of that power which was
lying in wait there, he was in a short time so
successful in his undertaking that those who dwelt there honored him as a god by the erection of a statue. 6. But this did not last long. For immediately, during the reign of Claudius, the all-good and gracious Providence, which watches over all things, led Peter, that strongest and greatest of the apostles, and the one who on account of his virtue was the speaker for all the others, to Rome against this great corrupter of life. bk 2,

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:49am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
Of course, you're free to excuse yourself. This is certainly beyond you.

Insisting on Eusebius isn't a surprise. We know he was a promoter of your false church too. He was loyal to the emperor.

I hope you know that no historical source support what you wrote, not the encyclopedia, not edward gibbon, not iranaeus, nada, nothing.
it seem your only coraborating source is ACBCC or whatever that is, try again dear and this time try to do a good work. not even a single historic soure that say catholicism supported gnosticism, infact u have borne false witness against justin martyr who actually opposed the simeoners.

you can try again.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 8:49am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
Did your false church fought against Gnosticism during its (church) early formation years or when it assumed governmental control?

Yes, heresies. Ironically, all of your church doctrines are all heresies!

Who commanded sunday's observance

there was no governmental control of the church, some time the church worked with civil authorities that acknowledged her other times the church and state were at loggerhead.

and the church fought gnosticism before and after she was persecuted.

i hope u know that your new testament also came from the same church u call false and full of heresy, abi u think a heretic and false church gave u scriptures?

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 7:34am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
Of course, you're free to excuse yourself. This is certainly beyond you.

Insisting on Eusebius isn't a surprise. We know he was a promoter of your false church too. He was loyal to the emperor.

Have u read what he wrote?

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 12:05am On Jan 07, 2017

Splinz:
Lol... Defense of a drowning man.

My dear, verifiable sources are scattered everywhere. Anyways, this is staggering history to people like you. I know you're already used to the lies of your false church.

Simon Magus is the 'peter' Eusebius is talking about. Just learn to deal with it my brother.

PS: Eusebius is not the only historian quoted. So quit it!

It is clear u havent read eusebius.

the begining of conspiracy theories is certainly ignorance. have a bliss.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:47pm On Jan 06, 2017

Splinz:
Very simple! Did Paul mentioned Peter's name in this Scripture as one in Rome? No!

this is another fallacious arguement called arguement from silence

Besides, Eusebius writing of a 'Peter' in Rome shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. We've already established who bored that title in Rome as your pope.

I guess we can conclude u conjured ur story from thin air, it is refuted even by eusebius u quoted

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:39pm On Jan 06, 2017

Splinz:
How can the mother of all heresies fought and condemned what she created?

What do you even understand by the word "heresy?"

tell me who do u think condemned and fought against gnosticism.

may God save u from bais.

heresy is a species of infidelity in men who, having professed the faith of Christ, corrupt its teachings.

if ur aim is simply to condemn the catholic and u will continue even when clearly rebuted let me know so i can kindly leave u guys alone.

i dont know how a sincere xtian will claim he isnt aware d catholic church fought gnosticism, it is either a lie or ignorance.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:19pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
I enjoin you all to follow the link below to see the kind of organization found in the catholic church, which claims to follow Christ:

www.nairaland.com/3555177/jesuit-oath

www.evangelizationstation.com/htm_html/Anti-Catholicism/jesuit_oath_debunked.htm

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:08pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
Ubenedictus, When was Peter the Bishop of Rome?

my dear dont give me d job of educating u, the early xtian wrote several works, take the up and read, since u seem interested in church history, u may beging with eusebius church history.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:03pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
What rebuttal did you give? Does that oath not belong to the jesuits? Can't the you see the reference before the article?

It is not a jesuit oath, it has been rebutted severally online and even on nairaland, i do not have d energy to join issues wit u, u guys are usually blinded by hatred that u cant see what is glaring before u.

how a human being can claim that the catholic church arose from heresy she had already condemned and fought against is just beyond silly.

u guy arent sincere, all u care abt is to discredit the church, u dont even care that the claims u are making are lies.

lord have mercy.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors Riot Against Anglican Bishop, Close Down Church In Sapele (Video) by Ubenedictus(m): 10:57pm On Jan 06, 2017

Mbediogu:
Who checks the checker? It is at the highest levels that all the magic occurs. Bros I be Catholic o o

I hear u, but it is easier to claim than to prove. in this case we have clerics who havent been paid rioting...the catholic church usually satisfies her reponsibilities.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:54pm On Jan 06, 2017

Splinz:
Let me give you a brief of Eusebius.

Eusebius- AD 260-340. A main historian that documented the first three centuries of both the true Church and the false church; compiled from other historians, mainly Hegesippus; his chief theme was to justify and eulogize Constantine and the church of Emperor Constantine's choice. (ACBCC, les. 49, p. 15.)

SO HE WAS WRONG WHEN HE WROTE THIS?
"Paul testifies that Crescens was sent to Gaul [2 Tim. 4:10], but Linus, whom he mentions in the Second Epistle to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21] as his companion at Rome, was Peter’s
successor in the episcopate of the church there, as has already been shown. Clement also, who was appointed third bishop of the church at Rome, was, as Paul testifies, his co-
laborer and fellow-soldier [Phil. 4:3]" (Church History 3:4:9–10

HAVE U EVEN READ HIS WORKS OR U JUST ACCEPT U COPY AND PASTE SITE.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:48pm On Jan 06, 2017

Splinz:
Very lame my dear. You really need to try harder in defending your Simon Magus church.

Andrew's ministry was in Scythia, Upper Asia Minor.

Where is it written in d bible?

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Politics › Re: Security Arrests Uyo Journalist, Flies Him To Abuja Over Dana Crash Post by Ubenedictus(m): 10:33pm On Jan 06, 2017

tivta:
Do you know the meaning of rule of law? Where is the warrant of arrest? Why the un uniformed men? This is all as a result of a president that doesn't follow due process. Sue the man to court before arresting, well this is a Lawless country...

the police is allowed to hold him for 48hrs before filing charges.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:04pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
When did I quote eusebius? Are you lying or are you confused?

Sorry, d op quoted eusebius nt u.

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Ubenedictus(m): 10:03pm On Jan 06, 2017

jnrbayano:
This pass me like 100times

Lol, no fear, na just happy new year e even simple, if i say owe sena u go say sena owe.

sumtin like happy feast...same 2 u.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:59pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
Paul wrote Ephesians c.60 A.D. John was not in Ephesus then.

Stop lying. Read competent history, not church lies.

u have been quoting eusebeuis church history here all day, I quoted it back at u and now it is suddenly incompetent.

if it is incompetent over go and delete d places u quoted it.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:55pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
I enjoin you all to follow the link below to see the kind of organization found in the catholic church, which claims to follow Christ:

www.nairaland.com/3555177/jesuit-oath

Another wile goose chase, i rebute this some yrs ago on nairaland, why are u guy also reharsing already rebuted lies?

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:43pm On Jan 06, 2017

Splinz:
Really... Peter was in Rome and your first pope Okay.

I'd soon prove according to Scriptures that apostle Peter was never the one that was your pope in Rome. I've already shown you who your true pope was. Deal with it!

Lol u are back with ur puerile claims which i just refuted.

you are d one claiming to be informed quoting from eusebeius. let me inform u on what he wrote.
"Paul testifies that Crescens was sent to Gaul [2 Tim. 4:10], but Linus, whom he mentions in the Second Epistle to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21] as his companion at Rome, was Peter’s
successor in the episcopate of the church there, as has already been shown. Clement also, who was appointed third bishop of the church at Rome, was, as Paul testifies, his co-laborer and fellow-soldier [Phil. 4:3]" (Church History 3:4:9–10

You cant claim u didnt know, even ur own history sources says so.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:36pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
Paul wrote 5 letters(Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy and Philemon) from a Roman prison, yet he made no mention of Peter. Why?

Acts 28:14-15, Paul met with the brethren in Rome, but made no mention of Peter. Why?

Since the book of Acts is the history of the church up until a few years before Peter's death, why didn't the book of Acts mention Peter's visit to Rome, if there was any? When did Peter visit Rome?

In Romans 16:1-15, Paul greets 26 people by name. If Peter was the leader of the church in Rome, why did Paul not mention him?

Is it a must that paul must mention him? john was in ephesus for a long time but no one mention him not even paul in his letter to the ephesians!

act isnt a biography of d apostles, infact the narration on peter stopped at chap 11 and dat on paul took over.

it is largely puerile bothering on fallacious to claim peter wasnt in rome becos u cant find it in ink in d bible.
where did adrew preach?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncountable Problems Of King James Version of the Bible by Ubenedictus(m): 9:22pm On Jan 06, 2017

Kalatium:
Yea it's true bt d old testament laws are not irrelevant

It depends on how u define irrelevant. i can agree wit u on this.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 8:26pm On Jan 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
The catholic church appears to abhore Satan too when in fact she is executing Satan's plan on earth.

Jesus Christ described Satan as a liar and a murderer from the beginning.

Any competent historian knows the number of lies and the magnitude of murders which the catholic church has committed since its promotion to primacy by pagan Roman emperors.

you guys can make silly claims for africa, slinz just goofed by linking simon magus and gnosticis to justin marytr and jerome, then he tried to use eusebeius to contradict himself. instead of helping him defend his unscholarly hypothesis u are here making more unstantiated lies.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by Ubenedictus(m): 8:21pm On Jan 06, 2017

another interesting thing is that ur article have been quoting eusebeius, but clearly u didn't even read the book u claim to quote.

eusebeius wrote that peter was in rome and even died there yet u deny it.. https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.vii.xxvi.html

NA wa for u, which kind cunny copy and paste u go copy?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors Riot Against Anglican Bishop, Close Down Church In Sapele (Video) by Ubenedictus(m): 7:54pm On Jan 06, 2017

Playa0ne:
It is the mother of all corruption I emphatically repeat, all other sects and new orders are learning from the masters (the Catholics) the only difference is that the structure of the catholic church was built by very smart white men, they do some good in the open but covertly rake in all the money without raising eyebrows. But trust blackmen, since indigenous priests started heading dioceses and orders, the corruption has multiplied.

then substantiate ur claims.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors Riot Against Anglican Bishop, Close Down Church In Sapele (Video) by Ubenedictus(m): 7:33pm On Jan 06, 2017

Playa0ne:
The Bishop steals/takes the diocese funds as he wishes, he accounts to NOBODY!

dioceses are normally largely independent esp financially. that usually means the bishop is the highest authority especially when it comes to spending, even at that he can't steal anyhow, any personal asset a cleric acquires revert back to the church when he dies, and a bishop can be check if he is financially irresponsible, any priest or member of d finance council is suppose to caution him and then report to rome if the issues continue unabated.

the above hardly happens because it is hard for a bishop to steal church money, where will he put it? it will ultimately revert back to d church.

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