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lexy2014:
Ananias & saphhira died cos they lied not because they didn't give. Acts 5:3. Pls get ur facts right& defend ur position with knowledge. Again I ask 2 Corinthians 9:7. Is mbaka d standard or is d bible d standard? U still haven't told me d word that mbaka gave obi cos he didn't give. Is d "word" in consonance with 2 Cor 9:7?

Ananias didnt speak, he lied by refusing to give the full money that was the deception. he took the half money and dropped it, his stinginess was the very deception.

lexy2014:
According to 2 Corinthians 9:7, did obi do anything outside of Gods word? So which word did mbaka give obi? I ask again, what is d standard, is it mbaka or d bible?

After reading that read up acts 5 then u will get the full picture of how God treats stingy people.

lexy2014:
It doesn't matter what it is. According 2u "mbaka reacted immediately, because u have been stingy to God".

What does d Bible say about giving in 2 Cor 9:7? Shouldn't that b d standard if u say d guy was "stingy to God"? Who is d standard, is it bazaar, mbaka or d Bible?

That same bible in Act tells us about ananias and saphire who were also stingy, they sold there house and kept some money for themselve when others gave everything. it was their right, they gave according to what their mind agreed on but do you remember what happened to them?
God killed them just becos of stinginess and money.

obi could have decided not to come if he didnt want to give, he could have given 100 if he says he is poor. but to come and yet not give, he was stingy and he got the word he got.

lexy2014:
Its obis choice to give. Its his money. D Bible doesn't say a so called prophet should insult anyone cos they didn't give to ur bazaar. D bible is d standard not mbaka 2 Corinthians 9:7

He didnt insult obi, he gave him a word.

It is obi choice to not give when he was specifically invited for a fund raiser and it is mbakas choice to call him out and give him the word.

Priceless200:
Watching this is quite nauseating, it is wrong on all levels. Giving should come from the heart for it to carry blessings. No man of God have the right to publicly do this kind of shit to anyone. He could have written him, or called him up later so as to discuss this., Peter is principled man when it comes to money, he probably came just for prayers and didn't prepare to give that day... This is wrong please. .

Anyways, You people should not make loosing election a sour case. Cause from the beginning its only one person that will eventually win. You guys and people like Mbaka are the reason election in this part of the world is a do or die affair.. After all, how many times did Buhari loose elections in Nigeria.

That means you dont understand what happened here.

Obi did NOT come for prayers, he was INVITED BY MBAKA for bazaar i.e a fundraiser. That is why mbaka is dressed in mofti, it is a social event for raising funds not a prayer gathering.

Adekdammy:
Mbaka should stop playing God. Atiku and Obi did not experience any shame, instead they were robbed of their mandate.

Did you read what mbaka told obi? he said 'you wont know how the election was done'.
That is exactly what happened

lexy2014:
A "true man of God" will not cajole u to give to God by raining insults &curses cos u didn't give to his church

That is what you dont understand.
It is a bazaar, a kind of fundraiser, the moment peter obi was given the IV he knew he was been invited to donate for the church, if he doesnt want to donate he would have just refused to come, but he came to d fund raiser and refused to give.
He embarassed himself.

KingOfAllIgbos:
True man of God who was disgracing himself being a Julius Beggar?

All pastors who emphasize tithes are 419, but this guy's begging took a disgusting dimension

Ladies & gents. Even if you can't speak Igbo, watch the video. The greedy "Man of God" was downcast and about to burst in tears when Obi was talking

i think mbaka felt like crying 4 obi.

FreelanceRebel:
Many Christian knows little to nothing about kingdom principles. They forgot that God is Lord over all. Even gentiles who do those things in the Law of God's covenant enjoys the blessing

its like you took it from my mouth

focus7:
I am a core Buharist but am totally opposed to Father Umbaka's shameful manner of raising money.

there is nothing shameful about it.

It is a bazaar and people are invited to raise money for the church, d priest cannot even touch the money. once u receive invitation you know whats up.

Obi is the only person i know who is invited to a bazaar and doesnt know hes supposed to donate.

mbaka reacted immediately, because u have been stingy God will shame u. I dont support priests making political statement, but i have read prophets who prophesy based on a persons action.

This is a clasic case of 'becos u have done this, that will happen'

I hope you believe that by giving birth to you your mother too sinned and became a sinner


It is always silly when a supposedly educated christian decides that the ceremonial uncleaniness of the old law is a issue of personal moral fault


Ola, a jew who touches blood or the dead etc becomes ceremonially unclean, so too a woman who gives birth, it is not a moral fault aka sin, it is ceremonial uncleaniness.

Poanan:
honestly, we are... have you read any stock market news alert in the last 48hrs?

Atiku is the person causing the drop in the stock market
The moment pdp started rejecting the results people began removing their money from the stock market because investors are scared that the rejection makes nigeria volatile. Nobody wants to put money in a volatile country.

Sopskyno:
To those shouting Charity and humanity should be considered first b4 any other thing....

Do u forget that Charity begins at home?? And who got help, help themselves first

To those shouting humanity.... Do this think of how many nigerians they'll will put in bad situation b4 selling their vote for #500/1000

I repeat.

anybody who conditions charity with an ultimatum is not doing charity but exploitation.

what they voted is their right, you should make them do otherwise just becos u are helping them

Swizbank:
North is president
sw is vice
and this time SE have an APC senator.

Is Okorocha our next SP?

He wont smell it, anti party activities, sponsoring his inlaw against the party, he is even suspended.
KALU has a better chance unfortunately he is a 1st timer

zeestunner:
I think senator ovie omo-agege is very qualified for the position as he is very sound and a very good lawyer. So south-south should have the senate presidency and deputy should come from north-east some like ali ndume or danjuma goje or any other competent hand from that region will do. Then in the house of reps the speaker should come from the south-east, imo state to be precise they should be rewarded for give apc an in road into the south-east. Deputy speaker should come from any where in the north central considering the fact that the last senate president is from the region.
This way all the regions will be duely represented in the new tenure. It will look something like dis:-

President - northwest
Vice president - southwest
Senate president - southsouth
Deputy senate president - northeast
Speaker - southeast
Deputy speaker - northcentral

This is wise

bender79:
Ahmed Lawan of North East will be Senate president don't even decieve yourselves

It will not work, a core northerner or south westerner cant be SP it will just head up the already high ethnic sentiments

Okwyjesus:
Who cares....

The entire south.

Buhari is yet to shake the accusation that the government is for the north, once the party take a core northerner as SP then he was confirmed that accusation.

It will be a sad day because that shows that the next 4 years will be loopsided.

I dont support this one.

We are humans first before politicians, it is our shared humanity that spurs us to be good to other people and help them.

If you are doing charity do, if not relax but to condition charity upon what people voted is wrong.

Charity with ultimatum is not charity it is exploitation.

[quote author=spirul77 post=76198718][/quote]TELL HIM.

Osho became governor by his own popularity, no one gave it to him unlike sariki who was put there by his father.

where really was baby saraki osho was fighting obj with nlc.
are they mates?

Andrewkinggg:
STOP THE lies! Oshiomole was a governor under the Labour party,. He decamped to form the APC.. He's a defector just like Saraki and mind you party chairman isn't a democratically elected position. Saraki and Osho no be mate.. They are miles apart..

This is ignorance. osho was NOT in labour party, he was chairman of NLC not labour party.

He did his 1st term with AC he never defected.

Saraki was given the governorship seat by his father osho made it himself with his own popularity.

of course osho and saraki are miles apart, saraki is dead politically and osho is still retiring the godfathers

Anagha123:
Oshiomole that couldn't deliver Edo State to Buhari.

Like for O to ge, Share for Saraki

He delivered, people dont like buhari in edo because of herdsmen yet he got huge votes here becos people love osho and many are satisfied with obaseki.

Andrewkinggg:
Oshiomole keep you dirty mouth shut.. Politically, in fact all round you are no MATCH to Saraki in every spheres of life.. A two term governor and a one term senate president which is unprecedented..

Say whatever you like.. APC today found their foot in KWARA because of that man.. If NOT for Saraki APC will still be second choice after PDP.. Oshiomole respect your oga!

Osho has already matched that feat, he too is a 2 term governor and now party chairman.
Saraki was a defector to apc, osho was in AC when that party was unknown, and yet he won election when ac had no machinery in the state, he created the machinery himself and retired the likes of tony anineh, igbenedion etc.

He is still doing it but saraki is gone.

Atikusbaby1:
Oshi- omo- ole

Bukky Saraki will always be remembered as the handsome, amiable and well respected SP

You however are a ugly man with a ugly soul. Awaiting judgment.

beauty has no business in politics, politics is about the people, the acquiring and use of power and osho has mastered the art of power.

AroleOduduwa:
2023 is just around the corner, nothing last forever, Osho should try and run for senate and see how Edo people will disgrace the omo ale

If he runs for senate he will win, he is popular among his people

He has never lost an election in etsako and akoko edo, edo north is happy with him.

Vivianagoja:
Just av to put some guys in Dia position. .

Its ok, and frankly he deserved it

Vivianagoja:
How many of ur sisters are virgin.
And how many girls have u disvirgin so far....idiot

see as you take am personal!

The guy talk trash but this ur response make me fear.
una dey beef b4?

XaintJoel20:
Lies. I can bet with my life that APC didn't get up to 30% vote in Edo State.

If you swear you go just die for nothing.

All the polling units around me in etsako west the apc got double of whatever pdp got it was so from agbede to uzairue and ekperi, my relation who is a pdp party agent in fugar confirmed that apc clear his lga, pdp won in okpella but the complete votes from agenebode shows apc beat pdp with abt 100 vote. akoko edo also voted apc.

Those 4 lga i am absolutely sure voted apc and anybody who say apc didnt get over 30% in edo state is a liar.

Jorussia:
Bob Izua and governor get some issues.Governor destroyed the shopping complex he illegally erected beyond the approved govt masterplan.Above all,governor obaseki nor be politician.majority of APC leaders in Edo south don't like obaseki because him nor dey release for them.

Personally i blive one of the best things osho ever did was to install obaseki. He is a technocrat not a politicial and he will do what he blives is right regardless of who is who. Bob izua tried but i know apc will still beat pdp in governorship election.

fedora04:
i have chosen to remain neutral throughout this election not supporting any candidate persay, though voted.But from the results from Edo state i have to break my silence

I lived in Edo state most of my teenage and Adult life and i know they wont have voted for Buhari like that .Edo people are straight up..cant be bought or cajoled.They are not sentimental or tribalistic.

If there is any election that was rigged it has to be Edo state.Those figures dont jive.

Buhari is popular and is an enigma in the North hence Atiku didnt stand a chance but truth be told,APC never got that amount of vote from Edo State.I stand to be challenged.

My tots

maybe you lived in benin but u havent lived in auchi, fugar, agenebode, afuze, akoko edo, where oshiomole is popular and many in igueben, ovia, oriowhon, uhumwode seem ok with the apc leadership in the state so far and were ready to risk another term for apc president.
Ishan will always vote pdp but the rest can change.

Jorussia:
The defection of Bob Izua,Shabba and others to PDP affected APC in oredo.Most importantly,Tony kabaka and his boys are not happy with the governor because of tickets and Agbero in Benin.Most of the Igbos in Benin reside in oredo.APC dey learn for money wen PDP carry enter oredo and Egor.In oredo,it was #9k per voters.Overall,Oshiomhole tried in Edo state.

See money!

9k per person, dem wan mess oshiomole up.

weytin bob izua say happen wey e defect? abi na becos e bus no dey reign again?

I think he lost, i havent seen his result but his area is oredo and they voted atiku enmass

eseosa77:
dont believe thi result it was doctored.
Edo south alone is more than 15k difference not to talk of edo central.

EDO north had more than 20k difference that canceled edo south and parts of esan.
u did not follow d news