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OLODO RABATA!

Rostikol:
2027?

More like 2057 with the way Igbos have made themselves outcasts of Nigeria. I don’t see anyone trusting them with power anytime soon. Go on social media platforms and see how they abuse Nigeria on a daily basis.

Igbos don cast for Nigeria, bro.

They’re done.

Forget them.

Why are u shocked? They are amoral & morally dead. Election 2023 revealed their true nature

whatisthetruth:
No matter the evidence you provide to them, like graduating in 1970 from a school that started in 1974, or the fact that the registrar denounced Tinubus certificate, or....

They don't care.

They are now in full support of forgery and criminality and might even push for laws to make forgery in Nigeria legal.

Never knew a time would come when I'd see people so openly defend a clear forgery. Even other societies might disagree along political lines, but when obvious malfeasance is detected, like stealing on camera for instance, all sides come out to condemn it at once, but not Nigeria of today.

In Nigeria of today, you denounce forgery and you are termed a wailer.

This is the Nigeria some are building for their children, the next generation.

In future Nigeria, hard work will count for very little. Why should your son or daughter study and study, when their mates can just print out "third-party" certificates and leapfrog them.

They will say "daddy/mommy" is a fool for asking me to study, when I can just forge everything.

Sad time for Nigeria, and yes, I am wailing, but as always, I pray to God to wipe away the tears of Nigerians that have and are fighting and fighting to see a better country in their lifetime and for their children and the next gen.

God sees our hearts, even though the evil voices may ring louder in public, but I know God will shield and protect us from harm, economic burdens and lead us to a great future in Jesus name, amen.

Do not despair, those of you that want a land of justice.

Indeed wetin concern me.

Treasure17:
Wetin concern me

So which 3rd vendor do the certificate? Why didn’t he say so from the outset? Why was he blocking the release in the first place?

AntiChristian:
Open thread - Tinubu!

Close thread - Tinubu!

Na you go get high BP!

Supreme court will be a walk in the park!
Na so you go spend Una live till death calls!

Person wey go school graduate with distinction and honours they say he forged certificate!

The settings is even the US! And the registrar don give am context!

Third party vendors dey do certificate!

Ain't they clowns?

They'll open another thread tomorrow from another faculty student from NC or SW!

The same Supreme Court will embarrass itself.

Racoon:
Forgery undermines the integrity of educational qualifications, and it's imperative to maintain the sanctity of academic records. Tinubu nah ogbologbo for oluwoleism. Fear the man.He can forge a human being if possible.
Let’s see how the Supreme Court of technicalities and corruption will spurn another narrative with this messy scandal. Karma is a bitch. It does not forgives or forgets.

So what is it?

opamoses1:
CSU never called forgery a Nigerian thing neither did CSU say Tinubu forged anything.

That's how you people misled the KOWA Prof with fake news.

And Yoruba disgrace!

OBTOREPA:
National disgrace

What is the business of IPOB in this matter?

Raskimonojendor:
Like Obiamuju Udeh (real name: DJ switch) like Chinedu Gbarebo. Both are IPOBs social media wing chapter members that love to insult people as old as their grandpas.

TRASH!

jason123:
Three fashionable fallacies lie at the root of prevailing Igbo outlook to Lagos, the former federal capital. The first is that Lagos is a no-man’s land with no indigenous population.

The second is that Federal Government money was used to build Lagos into the huge metropolis that it has now become. This argument goes further to claim that since the “federal money” allegedly belonged to all Nigerians, the political control of Lagos should, willy-nilly, be open to just about anyone and everyone who claims to be a Nigerian.

The third fallacy is that Lagos is a hunting ground, a jungle city where all being “joiners”, the predatory instinct must rule. By this pernicious thesis, Lagos is a place in which regardless of one’s roots – or the lack of it – one can seize the trophy. It is an el-Dorado where anything goes and in which everything, including political authority, is up for grabs since the place does not belong to anyone anyway!

FASHOLA-IGBOS

These are erroneous claims, now being given new life in the current debate on Igbo participation and representation in the politics and governance of Lagos. Granted, the continued perpetration of these fallacies is not restricted to Igbo elements. Others, including some Yoruba (especially those that Lagosians refer to as ara oke– upland people), are equally guilty of the first if not all of these fallacies.

But the current debate marks the first time that an institutional claim to the governance of Lagos would be made by a non-Yoruba group. The commentators, Joe Igbokwe and Uchenna Nwankwo, among others, have done well in marshalling the arguments from the Igbo perspective. Spokesmen of Eko Pioneers, a group of Lagosians, have answered back from the other side. It is a debate that should be encouraged rather than stifled.

The fallacies are, of course, easily dismissed. The Yoruba identity of Lagos is not in doubt, regardless of its ethnically mixed composition. If the “no-man’s-land” claim were to be true, then Lagos must be the only metropolis anywhere in the world without an indigenous population.

Concerning the use of “federal money” to develop Lagos, four points need to be made. First, Lagos was a thriving metropolis even before the British created Nigeria, its prosperity being due more to its strategic location rather than its administrative designation.

Second, it is doubtful that the people of Lagos were consulted before their city was made the Nigerian capital, or that they were forewarned that being conferred with such a status would mean that they would lose their city to stranger elements.

Third, rather than invoke the “federal money” argument to dilute a people’s right to control their land, the rest of Nigeria, and, in particular, the Igbo, should be grateful to the people of Lagos for availing them of a conducive environment in which lives and property are relatively safe and in which the throats of settlers are not routinely slashed by sponsored zealots as happens elsewhere in Nigeria.

Fourth, and perhaps most tellingly, only a fraction of what is now Lagos State was ever under the central government. Strictly speaking, only four of the present twenty local government areas in Lagos State – Lagos Island, Eti Osa, Lagos Mainland and Surulere – were in the then Colony of Lagos.

The rest belonged, first to the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria and subsequently to the Western Region, before the state creation exercise of 1967. Lagos was also not the only city on which federal money was spent. (Calabar was once the capital and so should also qualify as a recipient of “federal money”.)

As for Lagos being a hunting ground, the self-defeating logic of this argument is clearly brought home to all of us – aborigine and settler alike – by the frightening crime statistics in the state.

Perhaps before I go further it is appropriate that I state my qualifications for pronouncing on this matter, aside of course from my rights as a citizen of Nigeria. From my father’s side, I am a Yoruba of Awori descent with strong Egba links. My mother however happens to be Igbo from Owerri in Imo State.

Based on these affiliations, I can claim a fair measure of familiarity with the issues in the current debate on both sides. I understand the feelings of Lagosians on this matter. I am also fully apprised of the passions and pressures that drive Igbo into internal economic exile and which impel their push for a place in Lagos.

While I empathize with the Igbo condition, I share the interest of all trueborn Yoruba people in maintaining and possibly deepening the Yoruba character of Lagos. And no one should have to feel apologetic about that.

The Igbo, perhaps more than any other Nigerian group, are in a vantage position to appreciate a people’s attachment to their soil and the unbreakable linkage between a people and their land and language.

A critical aspect of that linkage is the exercise of cultural and political authority over a land space to which one has aboriginal claim. More than any other group in Nigeria, save perhaps the Fulani Bororo, the Igbo move around the country a lot for considerations of geography and economics.

Unlike the Fulani, however, the Igbo often become sedentary in large clusters in the lands they move into, including Lagos. This naturally raises an interest in participation in the public affairs of their places of domicile. Yet, a legitimate interest in participation cannot translate into a contest for control, which is the way the current claims are being canvassed and construed.

Pan Nigerianism

Advocates of the Igbo claim to Lagos often refer to the putatively halcyon era of pan-Nigerianism spanning the 1930s to the 1950s. It was a time, we are told, when all Nigerians lived as one and when it did appear that all ascriptive barriers had dissolved in the ferment of nationalist politics. This period has become a favourite reference point for people with all kinds of agenda. But was the reality not indeed less glamorous? There was, no doubt, a fortuitous convergence in those times. An emergent commercial and educated elite needed to come together in the nationalist struggle to send the British away and so the city of Lagos, which was the hub of that struggle, seemed to have become a melting pot overnight.

Yet, the hometown unions remained strong and affectations to unity were soon exposed as only skin-deep as the struggle to ensure the departure of the British transitioned into the struggle over who would succeed the departing oligarchy. This is the reality that we continue to live with to date. And it would be asking a lot to expect that Lagos should offer itself as the guinea-pig for experimenting with the possibility of a new pan-Nigerian vision. Especially since there is as yet nothing on ground to suggest or guarantee that such a gesture would be reciprocated.

As things now stand, the Igbo in Lagos must decide what they really want from the state: participation, or representation, or control. Currently, their spokespersons seem to be using the three terms interchangeably, raising the spectre of a hostile take-over. This approach is bound to be resisted by a people barely recovering from the debacle of the June 12 annulment and the devastations of the Abacha persecution in which they saw the Igbo – with some admirable exceptions – as having played a less than salutary role.

The attitude and outlook of a majority of Igbo political elite and indeed common people to the June 12 crisis was mercenary if not malevolent. Many Igbo seemed to have approached the crisis with a revanchist agenda borne of deep-seated animosity and ill-will. How so?

Civil war

It is a well-known fact that some Igbo still blame the Yoruba for having “pushed” the Eastern Region into the civil war only to back out at the last minute. This line of argument further raised and reinforced the unfounded stereotype of Yoruba people as unreliable. It has been peddled for so long that many have come to believe it. As Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda once famously said, tell a lie persistently over a long time and people start to believe it to be the truth. Anyway, hostile interests within and outside Nigeria that have reason to fear the rise of a southern solidarity of the type that was emerging with the UPGA party of the 1960s have also invested strenuously in promoting and perpetuating this lie.

Yet, without seeking to diminish the harrowing and often heroic sacrifice that the war entailed on the Biafran side, the truth is that the Nigerian Civil War was largely the consequence of a North and East alliance of brinkmanship whose cardinal objective and principle was the isolation of the West. It is said that the falling out of friends is often the most vicious. So, Igbo political elite are in no position to seek to build a cult of victimhood around themselves or to sermonize about the politics of bad faith that led to the war.

Beginning with the NCNC-NPC coalition, through the Action Group crisis, to the declaration of a state of emergency in Western Nigeria, the creation of the Mid-West Region, all through to the treasonable felony trial, many Igbo political leaders of the time seemed to have deliberately lent a hand or at least acquiesced in stoking the northern brazenness that eventually resulted in the pogroms and the war. Nor should it be forgotten the games that were played with the status of Lagos, with the establishment of a Federal Ministry of Lagos Affairs under northern headship but with copious NCNC concurrence.

Similar treatment

But not to digress. With the defeat of Biafra, many Igbo in secret (and sometimes not too secretly) wished that the Yoruba too should receive a similar treatment someday soon. That day seemed to have arrived with the June 12 annulment and the crisis it unleashed. For some, the June 12 crisis appeared to have presented the Igbo with a perfect opportunity to get back at the Yoruba and permanently cut them down to size.

In executing their now famous exodus from Lagos at the time, many Igbo had said that they feared (hoped?) that another war was afoot, this time with Yorubaland as the theatre. Igbo political elite seemed to have offered themselves all too eagerly to bringing about such a confrontation. The role played by the likes of Sam Ikoku, Uche Chukwumerije, Walter Ofonagoro and Clement Akpamgbo, to mention a few, in adding fuel to the fires of the crisis would for a long time be remembered in the annals of infamy.

No doubt, the annulment and the ensuing crisis sorely tested the political maturity of Yoruba people and their elite. Fortunately, the Yoruba refused to bite the bait and managed to come out of the annulment crisis without a shooting war. There were, of course, several battles and notable casualties along the way. But, in the end, there was no war of the scale that had been feared – or hoped! How this was accomplished remains a tribute to the leaders of the pro-democracy struggle, a struggle that is yet to come to an end and of which Lagos remains the epicenter.

Igbo in governance

Feelings still run deep and memories of what many saw as malevolent undercutting could remain for long. It is partly in this context that many Lagosians situate current calls for expanded Igbo presence in the governance of Lagos. Many will shudder to contemplate the fate of the June 12 struggle if during that struggle political power in any part of the South-West had been in the hands of people hostile to Yoruba interests. What extent of damage would Chukwumerije have wrought if he had just one kinsman as an ally sitting in a sensitive local government chairmanship or governor’s office in the South-West in those terrible days?

Still, the work of building a united Nigeria must continue as we cannot afford to dwell for too long on past injuries and grievances. The Igbo input into this great work can be both positive and progressive, but not necessarily involving their ruling Lagos. Indeed, I think they have their work cut out for them. My view is that the Igbo are barking up the wrong tree in this whole matter over who rules Lagos. What do I mean by this?

The Igbo are such a leading and (hopefully) enduring part of the commercial landscape of Lagos. At this point in time, what they should be doing is lending their voice and energy to advocating for a reversal of what appears like a deliberate federal abandonment of the former capital, which has made doing business in Lagos all the more difficult.

The movement of the seat of the Federal Government to Abuja was ostensibly meant to un-clutter the environment of governance and deepen our country’s unity by giving everyone a sense of belonging in the nation’s capital.

But the move soon fell victim to elements whose knack it is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in every good policy. The movement has been implemented as a punishment for the Yoruba and possibly as a reprisal for the central role that Lagos played as the seat of the pro-democracy opposition. Against this background, the attitude of many Lagosians to the Igbo quest for control is that they should commence it in Abuja and its area councils. After all, they say, Abuja is the only Federal Capital Territory that we have.

Federal presence

But speaking seriously, Igbo claims to an expanded role in the governance of Lagos cannot be pursued in an atmosphere of intentional federal abandonment of Lagos. Governor Bola Ahmed Tinubu of Lagos State has been making a case for renewed federal investment in Lagos, given the peculiar heavy demands on the state and its role as home to all. Rather than fantasizing about taking over the Alausa seat of government or occupying commissionership positions, the Igbo in Lagos should lend their weight to the push for special federal recognition for the needs of Lagos, to further enable the state continue to play its role as a safe, liberal and prosperous home for all.

Samuel, a former columnist with Vanguard, had caused this article to be published (in two parts) in Vanguard of 3 May 3 and May 10, 2002.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/igbo-and-the-governance-of-lagos/#sthash.FXfvmPIE.dpuf

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/igbo-and-the-governance-of-lagos/

This is Nigeria. Don’t bet on it.

Felimax:
Anything to destroy that satanic party called APC is fine by me.

What is the business of NDIGBO in the post?

Curse777:



Life in Nigeria is easy and fair

Travel abroad to pay bill and you see why lazy Yamree people turn to prostitution and drugs

*When you pay rent weekly or monthly, you can end up on the street homeless any fvcking time

*When a cab meter starts reading at 3000 naira per kilometer with vat and tolls charged on you

You start walking

Or

Get a bicycle

Your income is taxed 30% by Fed, Local tax and VAT is going to kick your nut sac

Last Last, many want to make money abroad and retire back to Nigeria as paradise lavida loca


.

So true

DrGoodman:
The issues that sank Nigeria are Tribalism triggered by unhealthy competition initiated by people who couldn't stomach the rise of a particular part of Nigeria to greatness.

So they lied, cheated, fought, killed, and destroyed the whole process in the country that can bring a level playing field for all the country, because they know that tribe will race ahead again.

The fight against that tribe meant that they had to cut corners with the truth, cutting their chances down just to make sure nobody rises, if it means the successful region will rise faster. So standards were lowered, educationally, financially and socially, it became okay to lie about things on national TV, as long as you will be seen to be against that tribe, you will be forgiven.

Institutions had to be killed, processes had to be destroyed, procedures had to be abolished for the tribal Lords to unfairly climb up to twist the truth. Of course the end result became the elevation of haters, criminals and illiterates who cares less about the general wellbeing of the country. As the criminals took over, and are still in power, expect no meaningful developments, because

YOU CANNOT PLANT CORN, AND HARVEST COCONUTS

Ndi-Yoruba? What a people?

JagabanB:
When the world look at u guys talking about same issues repeatedly for months without any solid proof other than stories from beer parlor and attention seekers, they see why the country is backward and they finally realize Nîgeriàns are not as smart as they were made to believe initially.

Yes o!

slivertongue:
Nigeria FAILED the black race.

[It is called Yoruba HYPOCRISY quote author=BossGerald post=126128166]The list is endless

Oct2022 vs Oct 2023

Dollar
2022= #620
2023#1,090

Gas
2022=#550
2023= #1,000

Rice
2022=#28,000
2023=#50,000

Garri
2022=#700
2023= #1,400

Beans
2022=#2,000
2023=#3,000

Egg
2022=#1,700 per crate
2023=#3,000

Fuel
2022=#185
2023=#630

Spaghetti
2022=#8,200 per carton
2023=#10,800

Tomatoes and onions are now gold

It wasn't this bad when Apc occupied ojota in 2012 during goodluck Jonathan government, we were made to not to accept dollar at #216 but now we are asked to endure dollar at over #1,000

Where are those celebrities and professors that wanted to end Nigeria because fuel was sold at #145?? It is #630 now and they've disappeared.

What exactly is happening?? Hypocrisy [/quote]

Absolutely right!

Anyenmoney:
Nigeria,. The only country in the world where the former president is always better than the current president.

Totally agree with you. The average Yoruba is amoral & morally dead.

Pigstormentor:
Worthless transgender.

How can you claim to be a first Class and you are ashamed of your results?

What manner of sophistication is this?

If it's another tribe , protests will erupt everywhere, sponsored by this same criminal called Tinubu. This SAGA, shows that, all that useless 'progressive' protests were staged to decieve the gullible,that they meant well for the NATION.

Worthless pigs...spits

If Ironsi abolished the regions, what did he replace it with? How states did he replace it with? What was the names of the state governors he appointed after abolishing the regions?

yoruboid:
Ironsi abolished the regions

Azikiwe kicked against the exit clause in the constitution. He was the first to use the phrase “one Nigeria”

A coup led by mostly Igbo soldiers killed leaders in other regions but spared theirs. After that you expected the North who were most affected to have taken it lying low. During the war, the Biafran soldiers buried Ikwerre men and others in the SS alive and raped their women

After the war, Yorubas returned their properties to them after the war but they lost all they had in PH.

Yorubas have taken enough from these ungrateful and intolerant lots

PBAT made a mistake by appointing one of them a Commissioner as Governor when when a Governor in Anambra would never appoint a PS from Ebonyi

Very ungrateful lots

Who are the people that wants to grab other people’s resources in the guise of One Nigeria?

Jogs1900:
That's their plan before to grab other peoples resources and investments using one Nigeria.
Even at that, old western region is still ahead of ironsis region

See the kind of post u are obsessed with? How does Aba and SE being landlocked improve ur life?

yoruboid:
If you think it’s not then you need to take a class in geography as it is clear the governor is on a wild goose chase except he partners with adjoining states that have access to the sea

You will need to go through the territories of Cross River, Akwa Ibom or Rivers to access the sea

Would Niger Republic claim it’s not landlocked because it can access the sea through River Niger?

There are only 8 states in Nigeria with sea coastlines and they are -
- Lagos
- Ogun
- Ondo
- Delta
- Bayelsa
- Rivers
- Cross River
- Akwa Ibom

Below is the map of Abia. Please show me the coastline

Nigeria has happened to her. So sorry for her and family. Who is NEXT?

Nbote:
The truth is that Nigeria happens to us all eventually one way or the other. In as much as hospitals fail time and time again in its duty which is saving lives, the fear of the Police and its unprofessional harassment is the beginning of wisdom for an average Nigerian

So sorry Nigeria has happened to her! Who is next?

JASONjnr:
We will never be able to get real time services, and saving lives with the laws guiding hospitals in Nigeria.....


Emergency units only function when it involves the political class.....

Don’t mind the OLODO RABATA!

Kukutente23:
Your accusing him of neglecting his life to write about Tinubu's life
Is that not what you do here 24/7
Or you think because yours is bootlicking makes you better?

Na this one spoil my hand?

Varunpulyani:
Port Harcourt - Amaechi Monorail

So well designed, conceived and executed that he was made federal transport minister by his famously intelligent boss.

Stop using United State as an analogy. The real governance in US that impacts average Americans is at the state and county/city level because US practices authentic federalism. Federal govt act mostly like a captain lead the ship of the nation.


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blacknp:
Monument of shame to the black race? I don’t think so, Nigeria is highly respected in the International community, what’s the big deal if he puts who he wants there? When he leaves office the Southerners should balance the equation by putting their own people there, that is democracy, take example Donald Trump’s nomination of another conservative Judge to the Supreme Court, whilst the democrats are shouting it is unfair.

So true&

iSense247:
Obi is actually a Philosopher but religion, tribalism and political sentiment has blindfolded the eyes of many Nigerians. They see a criminal as the best candidate. Wait, who is the capable Administrator and an accountant you voted?

E CHOKE!

gidgiddy:
Please, the ethnic groups that have produced the President since 1970 that the war ended, come tell us what you gained out of it?

Yoruba, Fulani, Ijaw, Gwari, Hausa etc, you produced President, either in military or civilian guise, are you currently enjoying Nigeria better than others? Has producing the President uplifted you?

The North that had produced the most Presidents, they suffer more extreme poverty than the South, they have only two places worthy to be called cities, Kano and Kaduna

Katsina Produced Buhari as President, half of that State is in the hands of bandits, it still holds the record as the state that had the highest number of children abducted by bandits in a single day, while Buhari was visiting

Those of you that have produced President since 1970 the civil war ended, tell us what you benefited from producing President, then after, tell us all how you brought Nigeria to where it is, poverty capital of the world and 8th most insecure country on earth

GOVT BY PROPAGANDA

KEVIND:
UAE visa ban lifted: That was a lie.

Tinubu is the 1st African leader to ring the NASDAQ bell: Another lie

Joe Biden will meet with Tinubu on the sidelines of UNGA, he is the only African leader he has requested to meet: Another lie!!

Why do you call them the most tribalistic tribe? Cam you share ur experience with them?

Thanks!

chiagozien:
The most tribalistic tribe in Nigeria.



I know them too well

So true!

SUPERPACK:
Don't mind them. They will count all south south appointments as igbos to spite the igbos. But when Ipob claims that south south is part of igboland they will all start saying it is not. That they are Niger Delta