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You reason like a fool

liketerm:
No problem about that, when they exist and those who decided to remain behind will be given the GHANA TREATMENT.

Please what specifically do you have hold against NDIG

cocolacec:
The igbos must pay $2,000 for visa and $1.5 million to setup business in Yorubaland.

TRASH. GO GET A JOB!

mekaboy:
We wake up tomorrow and federal government says igbos should leave Nigeria and become Biafra.

Igbos in federal civil service have till 31st of july to resign.

No pension or gratuity to be paid.

A new law and taxes will be imposed on all igbo owned businesses and properties outside igboland. Igbos will now have to pay taxes as foreign investors in Nigeria.

Those employed in police army and every other security agency, have to leave by 31st july.

Igbo graduates from Nigerian universities will not be able to serve in Nigeria.

All goods and transport services( air, road, sea) coming to and from igboland will have to pay taxes in each Nigerian state. When know the people of Niger delta will refuse to be part of Biafra.

So goods coming from lagos will pay taxes in all the states, even to delta state.

By the time these items arrive, how much will they be sold?

No more allocation from federal government.

No more usage of Nigerian Naira in igboland .

All Nigerian owned banks have to close branches in to igboland.

Telecoms have till 31st to shut down operations in the east.

Electricity distributors in igboland have to be disconnected from the national grid.

DSTV and all televison stations licenced in Nigeria have to stop operations in igboland.

All police, army and security agencies have to withdraw from igboland.

NOW WE HAVE OUR COUNTRY BIAFRA. HERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS.

What happens to Electricity? The lights are off, how will businesses function?

What about food? By the time a truck of food comes from the north and pays all the taxes from the road, how much will a tubber of yam cost?

Security? No police, army, or security agency in igboland.

Business? No Electricity to power business and they collapse.

Accommodation? Igbos who will leave civil service, police, army, navy etc will have to return to igboland.

Employment? Those who have been dismissed from service will become unemployed. Remember, by nigerian laws, companies in nigeria have to employ at least 60% Nigerians. This means, most Igbos will loose their jobs in companies. As they will be counted as foreigners.

Education? Igbos will be charged school fees as international students. Many parents who have lost their jobs won't be able to afford this.

You see why the fraudster in UK is forcing Niger delta into Biafra?

This is why I tell my fellow Igbo's to forget the fraudster and his fake Biafran agitation.

Use this energy and funds you send to the fraudster to develope igboland. Catalonia was already developed before they wanted to leave. UK was already self sufficient before asking to leave EU.

The motor park touts and criminals following kanu will tell you that when Biafra comes all these things will be taken care of.

So the world will be waiting for you to become recognised, form a currency backed by nothing. Then trade with it at what value?

These same touts and criminals will be the ones roaming the streets of igboland, looting properties, kiling people, raping women in the failed country.

Kanu knows all this, but his main focus is in the donations coming from the agitation.

Those Igbo's sending money for igbos to be killed, why not send the same money for factories and schools to be built to provide free education and employment for igbo youths?

You send money to kanu and he pockets it, sends peanuts to buy tramadol and drugs for his ESN/UGM that end up dead.

Please what informed your emphatic assertion? What past event/incident did you include in your analysis to arrive at your conclusion?

truthfulparrot:
The excitement about Biafra is because the North is protesting against it. You will be shocked that if a referendum is carried out in Igbo land today, majority of the Igbo will opt to stay in Nigeria.

A failed state!

Racoon:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/06/08/nnamdi-kanu-using-twitter-to-destabilise-nigeria-lai-mohammed/%3famp

Stop posting trash. Adaka Boro was not killed by IGBO.

OneCorner:
Igbos can’t eat their cake and have it
When Nigeria was sweeting them, they fought tooth and nail to keep the country as one thinking they will forever be in the top realms of the country’s operations
They even killed adaka boro, their supposed brother in the Niger delta
Now they have been sidelined, they now want to run away
Sense will not kill these people

Insightful!

Igboid:
1. Both fought/are fighting for a Multiethnic country.
Zik wanted a bigger country without considering that diversity is never an advantage in national building. It's a disadvantage. There is a reason Biblical God introduced language diversity once he wanted to destroy the people of the Babel unity of purpose. In countries where you think there is diversity, look closer, there is also one dominant culture that the rest of the Minorities rally around. The English Anglo Saxon culture is what all Europeans (French/Italians/Germans/Irish/Spanish/Portuguese/Slavic) rallied around to build USA upon.
The Han Chinese culture does same Function for China.

2. Both are/were not Igbo nationalists . It's no news that Zik wanted to be Nigerian first before becoming Igbo. Just as MNK has repeatedly stated that he is a Biafran and not Igbo. While Awolowo and Saraduna were projecting and protecting Yoruba interests, Zik was running around claiming Zik of Africa and one Nigerian, he never wanted to be Zik of Igboland.

3. Both are/were eager to ignore conspicuous signs s that potend future danger in their pursuit of their Utopian Multiethnic country.
Zik had tell-tale signs of what was to come in Nigeria during the 1945 and 1953 Igbo Massacres in the North, yet he insisted on one Nigeria with the North. He even allowed himself to be manipulated into accepting the ceremonial presidency post so that a primary teacher in Balewa can have the whole power.
I have heard MNK talking about moving Biafra capital to Igbophobic Port Harcourt all in attempt to pander to the interests of minorities.

Nnamdi Kanu like Zik before him is currently ignoring the tell-tale signs that gives a peep into what the future of a country between Ndiigbo and Minorities could look like. The atrocities against Ndiigbo in Biafra war and post Biafra where they declared our property abandoned property highlight this.

4. Zik had to wait hard for the North to loosen her relationship with Britain who Zik considered oppressors but who the North considered good allies. You see, so tight was the bond between the North and the British that the North rejected independence from Britain.
The Minorities have shown allegiance and uncanny affinity to the North, who MNK and Ndiigbo consider oppressors.
They have at every point in time backed the North against Ndiigbo.
Twice Zik contested for presidential election in 1979 and 1983, and on each occasion, the Minorities voted more for Awolowo and Shagari than for Zik.
Ever since the days of Harold Dappa and Boro who declared the Hausa-Fulanis the saviours of Ijaw people, the Minorities led by Ijaw have continued to choose the North over the Igbo irrespective of how much the North led Nigeria have exploited and damaged their environment via crude oil exploration and exploitation.

Nnamdi Kanu like Zik waited for Northern-British romance to end, is currently waiting for the Minorities to end their romance with One NIGERIA and the North before Biafra can take off.

6. Zik was smitten with the arable vast lands of the North. He wanted such rich country in his myopic mind to be in the same country with his Igbo people, so much that he forgot Igboland has her own fair share of natural beauty and resources. MNK is smitten by minorities crude oil and coasts that he has forgotten how rich in Natural gas and in sizeable crude oil when fully explored Igboland is and can be .


7. Zik Never saw the Hausa-Fulanis as a threat.
He felt he could easily control them in his utopic Multiethnic country. MNK and co are likewise underestimating the Minorities and what they can do if empowered by an external body.

8. Zik tried all his life to project himself as a one Nigerian before the North and West who saw him as nothing but a man running an Igbo agenda.
I see Kanu trying too hard to present himself as detribalised before minorities who see him as nothing but a cunning Igbo man running Igbo domination agenda to rule over them.
Like Zik, if Kanu is not stopped by Ndiigbo now, he would end up jeopardizing Igbo future interests.

9. Zik built and cultivated a toxic relationship with unwilling partners and had to take a subservient role to make it work.
The North made it obvious they were not interested in independence from British. They feared the South would dominate them as they were not well educated.
They made it obvious that they would only support independence from Britain if they were offered the leadership of the new country.
Now let this sink in, the North contributed next to Nothing to the fight for independence, the fight was borne by the South. The British were not going to let a divided independent Nigeria, she would only hand NIGERIA over to the local leaders as a whole (East, West and North), atleast without violent resistance.

Same scenario is repeating today. The Minorities have no interest in Biafra, because they fear Igbo domination, they want their own independent countries, but since that isn't on the table, they would rather cling unto NIGERIA irrespective of the fact they are being exploited by the system.
It becomes obvious that to get them over the Biafran cause, MNK would have to make concessions that would harm Igbo future interests like Zik did with the North. We know today with the kaleidoscope of hindsight, that Zik committed a blunder of epic proportions.

10. The only time Zik unity with his unwilling Northern partners worked was when he was willing to accept the role of subservient partner.
The moment Zik wanted to have the option to lead the union, kasala burst. Starting with the disputed census results.

In same manner, the only time Igbo/Minorities union ever worked was when Igbos took the junior partner role.
Like when Eyo Ita was the governor of the region and a king from AkwaCross was the head of the Eastern House of chiefs. There was peace everywhere. But immediately Zik toppled Eyo Ita cries of Igbo domination filled the air.
Additionally when GEJ was on sit and had Igbo support between 2009 to 2015, the Minorities stylishly muted their Igbophobia. We were inundated with talks of SE/SS unity, GEJ was the new Azikwe. Asari Dokubo was waxing lyrical about Igbo unity with Ijaw. Edwin Clark shelved his usual anti Igbo rhetorics aside. But immediately GEJ was toppled, they all went back to their default settings.

Each time Ndiigbo want to lead the SS/SE coalition, the Minorities left us in the mud.
Look at the 1979 and 1983 presidential elections, Zik was disgraced in all SS minorities areas. Both Shagari and Balewa got more votes in Bendel, old Cross River (South Eastern) and old Rivers States than Zik did and by a long margin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Nigerian_presidential_election#:~:text=Presidential%20elections%20were%20held%20in,the%20parliamentary%20elections%20in%20July.

You begin to wonder how Zik or Ndiigbo ever wronged these people.
The point being that these lots only accept unity with us on the terms that they lead the union.
Is this the legacy we want for Igbo future generations?

YOU CAN REMAIN IN NIGERIA AFTER BIAFRA IS BIRTHED.

Curious345:
I am Igbo ,but I want a united Nigeria

Your elders did not field any two Yorubas. The North fielded there own lapdog ,Obasanjo, and rigged him into office over your own candidate, Falae.

It is a testimony of how low Yoruba has fallen in Nigeria that you are claiming the flor for Obasanjo's emergence as civilian president.

JohnSin97:
We didn't bitch about it but our elites put themselves to work and years later we fielded two candidates for the 1999 presidential election. You guys have been bitching and wailing for ages over a presidential slot that you'd never smell in 100 years time.

Fulanis don't give a Bleep about Yoruba. Why should they shoot Yoruba protestors when they know that it is all noisemaking and sabre-rattling.? Fulani know that when push comes to shove, the average Yoruba will disappear.


Fulani has dominated,oppressed, humiliated, imprisoned and killed Yoruba leading lights without any push back from Yoruba nation.

Jaluumi:
I guess you’re a baby because Yorubas already went through that phase with Abacha and Babangida. We can even go back to the 60s with Agbekoya and Operation Wettie.

Fulanis just know Yoruba madness is different from Ibo madness. And shooting peaceful Yoruba protesters would be the end of Booohari. When Yorubas get mad, no be here o. Ibos on the other hand are like cows that can be killed with no repercussions apart from wailing.

Are you saying that should there be civil war, Yoruba will not align with the North like they did in the Nigeria-Biafra War?

What changed?

haaryobhami:
It's not tout and agbero ,I can tell u majority of yoruba people share the same believe, people are tired of this country and this administration, should there be a civil war today hausa /fulani people would fight on there own

THAT'S why they called SOPHISRICATED slowpoke!

ImmaculateJOE:
How some people went and casted their votes for a well known Dictator and Coup plotter still baffales. Especially our sophisticated brethren.
He even truancated a democratically elected government.

You be dundee united. Obviously, from your post, it shows you don't know the story of Mandela and his fightagainst Apartheid

OVB123:
Innocent people be killed everyday because of Kanu. May God judge Him. If he knows he truly want to liberate Ndigbo then he should come back to Nigeria and fight like a freedom fighter not these nonsense his doing; given order(s) from oversea.
Nelson Mandela of South Africa, Fidel Castro and other Free fighters too numerous to mention did it without instigating their followers against the government on sit

Trash. Stop peddling falsehoods on social media

Ihateniggov:
Of course, we are not using the 1954 Constitution but it is good to clear the air sometimes, don't you think so?

A little bit of history is not bad.

ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

Onlytruth:
The response coming from some of Yoruba elite on this issue is quite frankly ludicrous.
Achebe's memoir and the exact words he chose to describe Awo are very specific and succinct. Achebe never speaks half truths, or encase words in riddles. He always speaks plainly and to the point. He did that on two occassions when he turned down national honors. He has an antecedent of being a FIERCE LOVER OF TRUTH. No amount of fake indignation from any quarters would change Achebe or tarnish his reputation. The international community know him already.

The situation some of these defenders of Awo find themselves is analogous to an animal caught in a snare made of amazing ropes and twines. Once entangled, the more the "victim" tries to disentangle, the tighter the noose on the victim.

Okay, let me ask Mr Fani Kayode one question: WHAT ABOUT THE 20 POUND POLICY? How did he forget that one?

What even baffles me is that Achebe never attacked Yoruba people; HE "ATTACKED" AWOLOWO, and unless Awolowo has become Oduduwa himself, it should be an insult to the Yoruba tribe for anyone to pretend that Awo even rises to touch the shoes of such noble Yoruba sons, as Prof Wole Soyinka, Fela Anikulapo Kutui (and his entire Ransome Kuti family), and even my spiritual mentor Dr D. K Olukoya.

So, I get personally indignant on behalf of Yoruba folks, when people raise Awo above the entire tribe.

Methinks that the more those Awo defenders try to scrub Awo's tarnished legacy, the tighter the noose on their throats!

I have one advice for them : SURRENDER TO THE SNARE OF TRUTH ELSE IT WILL LYNCH YOU!

Signed,

Onlytruth, Ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

You are insanely and intelligently funny.

iamadonis2:
A ministry should be set up to regulate the activities of these kidnappers if they can’t be stopped.

1. A ministry to determine how many Northerners they can kidnap in a week.

2. The proper pricing and negotiation of ransom payments.

3. The holding facility for the abductees.

4. Taxable income of every registered kidnapper.

All these oversight functions will come under the purview of the Ministry.

Can't you make a posting with injecting Ndigbo into the mix?
Are Ndigbo the only group critical of Tinubu's political actions? Are Yoruba critics of Tinubu children of hate also.? I tire for you!

LegendHero:
Asiwaju Tinubu!

SW leaders are meeting but the children of hate from the cursed erosion ravaged enclave will be be the ones gnashing their teeth on this thread.

How many votes do they have to pass such a Bill into law?

Mooh247:
Is it by force to take alcohol like Ipob drunkards

If you don't want alcohol been taxed through VAT then call on Ike Ekweremadu and Abaribe to stop sleeping in the house and sponsor a bill to remove Alcohol from VAT items

Which General? Most Nigerian General are paper General- particularly those of Northern region.

Giddiebabalaw:
Make we forget this country...How can a General just died like a chicken like this? I'm baffled

You are either unemployed or under employed!

jerseyboy:
Niger Delta "Igbo" Cant Give Biafra Direct Sea Access Because Of These Tribes

There is an Igbo obsession with the Atlantic Ocean almost to the point of neuroses. This has led to the forceful conscription of all peoples with moonlight fable links of their Igboid ancestry into Biafra, such as the still puzzled Esan people of Ubiaja in Edo State who suddendly woke up one day to discover they are Igbo.

The problem is even if for agreement sake all these Igbo claimed peoples were to agree (Impossibility) to be Biafra, Biafra still wont be an Atlantic Nation as none of these tribes seat on the Atlantic Ocean.

Take the case of Rivers State. In the unlikely event that the the less than 500,000 Ikweres allow themselves to be dragged into Biafra, the direct sea access will still be blocked by the below tribes that include Ogonis, Ijaws, Kalabaris who are all sitting right on the ocean and will never give up their land.

My advise to those seeking Biafra is to focus on the 5 state of South East to be taking serious.

There will be a Yoruba Nation.
Their will be 1 or 2 Niger Delta Nations.
There will be an Igbo Nation, it just wont be this Biafran hallucinations.

Igbos are becoming very scary people to Southern minorities as it is becoming certain that Nigeria will dissolve.


Languages of the 4 Atlantic Coastal Rivers State LGA

LGA Languages
Akuku Toru Ijo, Southeast
Bonny Ibani
Degema Abua; Degema; Kalabari; Ogbronuagum
Opobo-Nkoro Ibani; Defaka; Ibibio; Nkoroo

Languages of Other Nearest Coastal Rivers State LGA

LGA Languages
Abua-Odual Kugbo; Odual; Ogbia
Aku Kalabari
Asaritoru Kalabari
Eleme Baan; Eleme
Gokana Baan; Gokana
Khana Anaang; Khana
Ogoni Gokana
Ogu-Bolo Kirike
Okrika Kirike
Port Harcourt Kalabari Kirike; Obulom ; Ijaw
Tai Baan; Tee

PoloG:
everything is Yoruba to you fool's.. the minorities don't want your smelly igbo ass biafra, is that too hard for inyamiris to understand?

Allow minorities to decide their fate.

IF YOU are Yoruba, you need to weepbfor your ethnic nationality. Your leaders are so selfish and myopic that they have sacrificed the collective and future survival of the Yoruba nation for political pot of porridge(Tinubu/Osibanjo/Fayemi)
Presidency

Imagine Yoruba political leaders fighting over a Utopian Presidency when they should be confronting Fulani-led Buhari Presidency to accept the imperative of restructuring and fiscal federalism - which by the way was their national anthem in last two decades before they came to power in 2015.

iammo:
Fayemi better dont bite the fingers that fed him because el rufai is pushing him, The Nigerian Governors Forum Chairmanship was lobbied by the same people in South West Agenda un his behalf, and he was visiting boudillion drive ikoyi weekly like his life depended on it

Why are taking panadol for another manos headache?

mekaboy:
Even kanu stores the donations he receives from gullible igbos, outside Biafran land. Because he knows there will be no biafra. So both kanu and politicians are the same.

Osibanjo is a dissappointment!

Penguin2:
During the EndSars protests, Buhari came out to threaten the youth and even sent soldiers after us.

But Buhari has been pleading with bandits and Boko Haram while Sultan of Sokoto is asking for prayers and Osinbajo is looking for Microsoft to train 5million Nigerians.

Ndi ala!

If Nigeria did not become great after almost 61 year of independence, but fell apart to the extent all the countries ( Malaysia, Indonesia,South Korea, Brazil) that were at or below par are now light years ahead of her, what makes you think she would great?

Do you really understand what it takes to make a country great?

what

Jollylolly:
All i know is that all these people calling for separation will bury their heads in shame by the time this country great. the storm shall pass.

YOU ARE EITHER UNEMPLOYED OR UNDEREMPLOYED

theTranslator:
factshunter Igboid ofoigbo bkayy alexbells phijo Graysons

DID YOUR FATHERS GO BACK HOME WHEN NIGERIA WAS FIGHTING FOR INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITAIN?

IDLE MINDS WITH NOTHING TO DO.

PissfulProtester:
This your question is same question we ve been asking for ages..You will never get any reasonable answer

In fact, the easiest way to start a fight with them is when you tell them to go back home...and deveRop it

Truth is..they don't love each other genuinely. An Igbo man does not want his brother to have what he has..just because he doesn't want him to talk when and where he is talking....

Is it the level of crime "manufactured" from that region we want to talk about? No, don't let us go there...

I don't blame Obasanjo. I blame the organizations that provide the platforms for jim to vomit his nonsense.

scholes0:
See patronization. What is a military head of state and two term civilian president going to say anyways?

There is already a conscious effort to exterminate minority groups and appropriate their lands and resources ALREADY ONGOING in Nigeria..
Any minority who thinks the continuous existence of Nigeria will protect them from harm is surely living in fool’s paradise.. especially in light of everything happening bow.

If you know you know...

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"Who told you Ibos rejected Buhari in 2015"

Why do you argue with the answer to 1 + 1 = 2?

NdIgbo massively rejected Buhari in 2015.Check the voting pattern in SE and SW in the 2015 Presidential Election

notym2chektym:
na wa for you Op
Who told you Ibos rejected Buhari in 2015?
Maybe in 2015, you were still in primary, Every region voted massively for Buhari Govt in 2015 because of their fake promises and because we want a better govt not knowing we are going from frypan to fire
,In 2019, when everyone eyes clear, there was voter aparthy ,Apc used the opportunity to rig the elections for Buhari, Buhari was imposed on Nigeria in 2019, forget those figures you see then( God will not forgive APC for that)
Are you afraid of Yoruba seceding or what ?
I don't know what you people really want from the Yorubas. Initially you said we are Hausa slaves and unity beggars,now we want to secede ,you said we shouldn't.
Na wa o

"I learnt many middlebeltans fought against Biafra because they were afraid of being trapped in a country with their Muslim brothers without Igbo overwhelming population to balance things out."

I read it too and that confession came from General Domkat Bali.

Igboid:
My own take on this:

1. The Yoruba elites preaching one Nigeria and using scaremongering tactics to dissuade the Yoruba commoners from pursuing Oduduwa republic are not different from Igbo elites and indeed elites from other parts of Nigeria doing same.
They are not looking out for the interest of the commoners, they are only interested in the preservation of Nigeria, their cash cow.


2. Nigeria as currently constituted only serves the interest of the elites from all parts of Nigeria and they would all say and do everything to preserve Nigeria so that they and their family, cronies and well wishers can continue schooling in North America and USA , jet all over the world for medical tourism, hustle for dual citizenship of first world countries for their families, while they preach one Nigeria to the commoners.

3. Ndiigbo( commoners) will not constitute itself a hindrance to any group seeking secession from Nigeria. If Igbo elites want to do so, then they would have to constitute such army by enrolling themselves and their wards into such senseless army.

4. Yorubas and indeed other groups can't hide behind Nigeria forever to avoid taking care of their local problems outside Nigeria.
Many people in Nigeria simply want one Nigeria to continue because they are scared their own group would not be able to make progress outside Nigeria as an entity, so they constitute themselves a hinderance to those who though know they would face challenges outside Nigeria but have enough belief in themselves and their ability to solve such problems and emerge a better nation than Nigeria can ever dream off. This is a typical crab in a barrel syndrome. Like the typical case of misery loving company.
I learnt many middlebeltans fought against Biafra because they were afraid of being trapped in a country with their Muslim brothers without Igbo overwhelming population to balance things out.
That's a pathetic way to live your life. Playing the ostrich rather than tackling your problem head on. Obviously, dragging Igbos into Nigeria has not stopped Middlebelt from having to face their Muslim brothers. They only succeeded in having Ndiigbo as a company in their own misery.

At your age, education, exposure you still suffer from debilitating ahistorism. Imagine the state of younger Yorubas who don't have the level of education and exposure.

"Propaganda can only last for a while, you can’t win a war based on propaganda because reality is different from fantasies"


Q#1
Why did Yoruba fight the Nigeria-Biafra War?
Q#2
Why did Awolowo and Yorubas align with the North to fight against Biafra?
Q#3
Did Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani fight in the Nigeria-Biafra War for the same political reasons. If "YES", what was the political reason behind their alliance to fight Biafra's independence?
Q#4
BETWEEN THE HAUSA/FULANI AND YORUBA, WHO is the real winner or real loser of the Nigeria-Biafra War?
Q#5
Between the Yoruba and Ndigbo, who is the real winner/real loser in the Nigeria-Biafra War?
Q#6
After over 5 decades of aligning with Arewa North to "defeat" Biafra, in the Nigeria-Biafra War, are Yoruba of Nigeria better off - economically, politically, educationally, psychological, scientifically, emotionally, individually and collectively - in Gowon's post-Biafra Nigeria than they would have been in Aburi Accord- restructured Nigeria?

Iegendhero:
Ojukwu really bleeped up by using his people as a shield for a war he isn’t that prepared for.

Propaganda can only last for a while, you can’t win a war based on propaganda because reality is different from fantasies.

There are cases where the Biafran army massacred some south-south minorities during the war too so I think this is a case of the devil with the strongest kill power.

This should be a lesson to this generation, before you commit to a full blown war, be prepared with the necessary alliance so you won’t sent your people in their millions to Hades due to hasty decisions.