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Nig4Greatness:
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My brother,been a second class citizen is easy on paper but tough in practice and accepting such status now depends on your purpose in life as you rightly mentioned.
Talking about Nigeria,if you think the country is underdeveloped,please who is to blame.....the citizens or the leaders ??.

The leaders are also citizens, so my answer is the citizens.


Living in other countries (two poorer than Nigeria tho) over the ladt few years have made me see Nigeria somehow

martineverest:
his instagram has so many followers too..he is rubbing it on ther faces

So someone cannot post on his page again for fear of hurting the fragile egos of suffering followers? ?

Nigeria sef

Nig4Greatness:
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@OP, congratulations once again on your accomplishment so far but i asked few questions earlier which you ignored for whatever reason but i thought its just a normal thing for you to give a detail introduction of yourself so your audience,at least those you are trying to reach can see something to run with.i indicated my intention to comment where necessary as well.
That being said,i ask people what SUCCESS means to them,am sure it means different things depending on their situations and to an average white american,the word AMERICAN DREAM means different thing to them as it does an immigrant especially coming from Africa.
to the OP, i understand how excited you are by achieving that dream of being an america citizen and you cant wait to share it to those that care to listen but hey,when you try to advise or encourage people to abandon their (God forsaken)home country and move to a foreign land without giving a clear cut pathways on how to accomplish that decision is unfair,at least the tread you created i assume is to be for that purpose.
to rest your curiosity,i am an AMERICAN by all standard and also a full bloodied Nigerian and my loyalty is to my home country and as well to my my adopted country.i own businesses in both countries so i can relate very well on any subject matters.
you see,you cant compare the US with Nigeria because they didn't start the same time,US is over 240yrs in existence whereas Nigeria is just less than 60yrs, forget the issue of corruption,there is corruption in every system but american citizens stayed and sacrificed a lot for their country,the place every one is dreaming to be now.please get to the library close to you and rent or watch these documentaries/movies may be it makes some meaning to you (1.the war that made america,2.who we are as an Americans,3.Obama america)(they are US govt properties).If we put half of efforts we put in here in our home country,Nigeria would have been a better place.
No matter what you become,you are still a second class citizen way different from what you are called in your home country.once again,lets engage on this issue and some others as this will educate and encourage your audience in their decision making.
@bolded, are you married with kids and what kind of job you do that would offer you that much in refunds?,you see these stuffs are things your audience need to know,taking them through the process and not just the result.as far as i know,government receive more in tax refund that they pay out.so don't think its just a simple Christmas largesse.

P.S i sent you a pm so as to caution(as i noticed you are still new on the forum) the kind of figures you throw around,there are american citizens on this forum,US government officials and even IRS operatives,so you know.

When I hear stuff like second class citizen, I just laugh


Except you are among the political or business elite in Nigeria, you are a second class Nigerian citizen in Nigeria.

Cross their path, and your eye go clear.


The most important tho is to find fulfilment in Life, because one day you will die.

Nigeria is not ready for development, as much of the population still have tgeur mentality stuck in the stone age, And there is a price for development, a price must Nigerians are not willing to pay.

As for me o, th six months in Nigeria and six months outside that I have designed for myself suits me.
overtime it will be 3 months Nigeria anf 9 months outside

ultimately, when the stuff im working on is complete, i don move completely be that.


Those in Nigeriashould develop Nigeria, I'm okwith my second class status

cutieme:
@dilumunati,I've been to Ghana the place is nice anyways but their currency is poor now including the economy so I don't think if Ghana is a right place to go now.

Ghana'a currency poor

Nigga you are tripping

shankara7:
UniLag is a glorified Highschool.

Will you sharap!

Nigeria no be place

Nigeria is a country filled with animals, with people who oppress those beneath them with no remorse whatsoever,

A country without laws or standards, and majority of the voters blinded by bigotry and ethnic sentiments.

Let me not even go on and on


Sometimes it's, not about the money, as Nigeria is one of the easiest place to make money, especially when you are ready to cut corners and act without conscience, but for many, it's about living life in a sane environment, where time of law is respected And where there are prospects.


You may not make it in millions there, but with your children and grand children being born in western countries, they will have more opportunities, So it's not just about you


to cut long story short, if you can leave, you better, if not you will most likely regret it in 15 years time

That's why Nigeria is a shithole
Useless black monkeys being incredibly wicked to each other
the haves oppressing the haves not..

LIFEisSIMPLE:
One more innuendo of the rich insulting the poor Nigerians

What do you mean?

Yankiss:
Womanhood has suffered. So, when she reaches menopause is the right time for marriage? What is in Hafusa's mind? After thirteen years you are still killing this girl's time in the name of not yet ready. Well, she has no options. You just trapped her with two children. Not really cute!
Remember, you've got two daughters. Will it be okay if someone treated them that way?

It's not his choice to make

At that stage, the daughters can choose for themselves ), and as Yoruba people, it's not much of a big deal to them


Marriage is overrated, and the world has changed


You conservatives have to deal with that.

Not everything is about tribalism nwanne
This one should not be ascribed to tribalism at all

solasoulmusic:
Which kind of cheap guy would invite a woman for a date and not pay she’s wrong to order lavishly but nawa o and some are even abusing broke girl she like your father met your mother in buckinham parlance lol I said it

You cannot even spell Buckingham Palace

Solstar:
I'm I supposed to show off ?

It's your choice to make
If you want to, you do so, if not, forget about it
Life is that easy.

Solstar:
You have a point, but few of such people's wealth survive their generation. To create wealth that spans generations, you must master expensive management and actually teach your kids and grandkids. As far as I am concerned, only few people in Nigeria can afford to say they are wealthy in that regard. I am not talking about some few billions here and there, I am talking about incremental wealth, not just some lucky money. These guys have no money at all. I pity the way they waste it on things that dont matter. Just to show their faces on social media.

There is no such thing as "lucky" money to me.

especially in this case

many of these guys worked HARD for the money

Solstar:
G-Wagon is his pricest possession, he just needed to fulfill his compulsive urge to show it off, cos as far as I am concerned, he is not worth enough to give anyone any advice.

They are all struggling and their money can not even survive till one generation, cos their source of income is like a chaff in the wind. No inventions, no manufacturing, no productions, just fast money without a real cash management plan on ground.

Making money is the easy part, managing it is the difficult part.

Okay

You wey sabi, where is your own?

Abeg shift!

it depends

Bagehot:
Whenever I hear these stories, I just laugh. Tons of people have been employed in great companies without knowing anyone. Do your research, apply, and give your A game at interviews, and see if you won't get a job.

You are validating my point.


it is possible

but it's for the minority with that uncommon zeal .


Some places have already kept slots for the children of some big men from the SE that I know via third party that ar3 still schooling abroad

yeyerolling:
Una don start again. I have worked for 2 banks, 2 big four audit firms, and a consulting firm. I no sabi anybody. The so called pple wey say mk i bring cv after nysc failed me. With this mindset u no fit progress o. Go to nairaland job section pple are getting jobs in kpmg,pwc,access bank, etc. Dey der

Your experience notwithstanding, the op has a point, and except we want to lie to ourselves, this practice is quite rampant in Nigeria.

Though people through persistence, still get ahead, they are in the minority

TheCrazyDon:
Don't ever compare your shiithole to the greatest nation on earth. Don't even joke about it . Even Japan ,China,South Korea,India ,Taiwan and the rest learn from their Master .
I saw a video on youtube comparing Lagos to Big Apple New York . Can Lagos and Abuja combined compare to Portland Oregon in any index?
Go worry about uninterrupted electricity and stop dreaming .
Do you know iPhone and other American brands are status symbol in Japan,China and the rest of the world? go do your research. I was watching this documentary the other day

LMAO

baba why you dey vex na?

Cool down

Sicilyjoe:
The easterns that pretend to love this man is because nnamdi kanu have not surface back then if not u will see bitter comments about him

Will you keep shut!

Yaradua will never come out in the open to classify people as 5%

Yaradua admitted that the process that brought him in was flawed


A man who has a plan for the country

A man who jettisoned the do or die politics of OBJ and allowed the courts unseat PDP govs

who will not like such a man?

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Buhhahahhahahhahahahahha. You wicked

I tell you

especially those that do the roll over

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Those that trusted Man Utd with their slips ryt now

Aswear!
They are all finished

So these people want to cut people's ticket today abi?
let them kwantinue

hayoholla:
to some extent I agree with kanye west. we just too quick to crucify him without scrutinising the statement. if I am on right track with his statement. it means for traditional african leaders to be brainwashed into selling their own to whites just for a shade of mirror and gunpowder or for being a social miscreant is "mentally wrong". Although it was not the choice of the enslaved to be put in chains and shackles and bundled of the coast, but it was the choice of their rulers to choose to be inferior to their white counterpart, it was the choice of the then traditional rulers to not let common reasoning prevail by throwing away our traditional identity and let our history be written for us. it was the choice of our traditional rulers to choose mediocrity even with our superiority in numbers as kanye west claims. they chose to be second class human even selling their own kinsmen. tell me whose to be blame here?

This is another perspective to it.

nice

Kanye had a point

Lizilicious:
Just like the choice some of my pipo made in 2015

Yea

chose to be slaves under an oppressive government

CodeTemplar:
Slavery was a choice the same way our current predicament is a choice.

If the Arabs could revolt under better conditions and Nigerians are still choosing their oppressor sheepishly, then it was a choice and we are still maintaining that choice.

Help me tell them o

Kanye West to a large extent is right.


Until you revolt, it is assumed that you have accepted your position as a slave, the way Nigerians have accepted the rubbish they get from their leaders


The Haitians refused to be slaves, they chose to revolt, and they made history as the first independent black country of the 18th century

The South Africans have had enough of being second class citizens in their countries and revolted, Apartheid was dismantled and they became free

Even the Civil rights movement was the black Americans way of saying enough is enough of beibg discriminated against in their own country, Rosa Parks refused the status quo and this set up a chain reaction that scattered the Jim crow movement


Even Algeria, Kenya and other countries fought for their independence.


Within those years, as long as the slaves could not revolt, it was a choice.
there are efen stories of planned revolt, and the house negros snitching, because he was comfortable with his position, and was scared of his lot of the status quo change


Lastly, Nigeria has a choice to say ENOUGG IS ENOUGH and cleanse the legislature and executive at the three tiers of government of those who are doing nothing but make the countty suffer from their incompetence and criminality

But the question is....


Will Nigerians make that choice?

Or will they choose to remain slaves in their own countries

DrinkLimca:
All is showoff just to divert people's attention from the Billions of oil money they stole...

You give out 200 million naira to someone That will still be selected by connection and yet thousands of Niger Delta youths which are The real owners of your source of wealth are out of school with no scholarship..

What is this one saying

Do you know how many dollar millionaires The Niger delta has

Why don't the rich there help the downtrodden??

Kobicove:
The reason why Nigerians are inherently dishonest is because they know they can get away with it...

The best way to stop corruption is to institute very sever and unequivocal punishment for those convicted and anyone who benefits from a corrupt person whether directly or indirectly!

That's a good point

HarunaWest:
Thank you ooo. wha will the OP now say about the Likes of Jim Ovia that created a number 1 Brand in just 24 years now.... Even the C. E. O of Dangote group Engr Joseph Makoju is a Nigerian, is she more qualified than he is... have you gone through his CV.... Wikipedia is free

Which connections do these people have

Who dem sabi

This woman can take Dangite to places these ones can only dream of, in addition to that Jewish guy.

That criteria above makes her more qualified than the people you listed

oscarwestcoast:
Go and check what % of Dangotes' top management are. Nigerians.Nigerian managed his firm to stardom. Don't come here to use performance in the public sector to generalize.

The person you quoted is right

A lot of Nigerian managers are criminals...


Look at the operations of mutual funds in Nigeria and compare it with how it's done elsewhere, that's just an example

oscarwestcoast:
Just say she is qualified and we will be fine. But telling me no Nigerian is as qualified as Chery doesn't make Sense. No nobel Laurette, first degree from London college of economics that was a mere polytechnic in 1975, never served in a board of business conglomerate like Dangote group and you tell me a nation of 180m people does not have her kind. Haba! Are you a Ghanian? Go and google the profile of Chukwuma Soludo, Okonjo Iweala, Sanusi lamido Sanusi, even Dankwombo and Peter Obi have handled tougher task than this your world class champion. Don't because she is a Briton , studied And worked there, earned her awards there, then that will make her superior to all Nigerians.

The OP is right in one sense


The connections she has, NO NIGERIAN, except you were head of state has it, and that is what makes her more qualified than MOST, if not ALL Nigerians


Dangote wants to list in the London Stock Exchange.


Is it Peter Obi, Sanusi or Dankwanbo that will help him do that story

The only person that comes close is Okonjo Iweala

Fesomu:
The only department headed by a Nigerian at nipco is Human Resources and that's the only department with corrupt practices. All other departments are headed by an Indian. It seems there's just something pathologically wrong with Nigerians when it comes to honesty

Sometimes I think the same