₦airaland Forum

Hier:
You post sounds like, if Buhari is the president of Nigeria, why is he not in charge of controlling traffic in Ojuelegba, are you based in Ojuelegba

If God comes to the earth, He won't be able to stand the sight of the sin of men, God can't imagine or stand the sins of a sinner, and moreover, God has prophecies it long ago.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Very sad, you lowered yourself to become a tool for the devil, tell me why God won't send you to hell, but you can repent and God will forgive your ignorance.

I made an earlier request . do not quote Bible reference. why i said so, every verse in the Bible says the book is a complete hoax not me. you mention another point for a good debate next time. try as much to avoid it next time.


this is the verse. for God so love the world. emphasized on the statement so loved. this is General buhari vital role
As Head of State the President is obliged to take part in public ceremonies. This role includes duties such as the opening of new sessions of Assembly in holding honour investitures, receiving the Credentials of ambassadors, High Commissioners, welcoming visiting Heads of State hosting and participating in other civil ceremonies. general buhari isn't yellow fever.


read my topic on the devil and hell concept

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


the serious problem I observed

God loves the world so much that he sends his son? Why didn't he send himself?

The only logical explanation and conclusion one can reach is that God doesn’t really love us all that much, because he couldn’t send himself but he sends his son. Second what type of Father sends his son into harms way? A father doesn't put his son in harm's way, but he takes the harm and pain off his son so his son doesn't have to suffer. and lastly, what is the Bible trying to say when it says God has begotten a son? If the term Son of God is not meant to be taken literally then why is a literal word of offspring through sexual intercourse being used?

There are 2 solutions to this, either the God mentioned in the Gospel of John had physical relations with a lady to have Jesus, which is why he is called begotten, or someone made this teaching up, which throws the entire theology of John into doubt, since we can’t trust somebody who’s blatantly preaching a false doctrine concerning God.

another important question. why do God needs to have only one begotten son . can't he create a million of Jesus Christ?

pls do not quote biblical reference to support your claim and try as much to avoid insult.

logical explanation is all I need. this is not meant to ridicule Christianity, just want some scholarly reply

mrtheo33:
and you are a generational misfortune for not been useful to your generation. rather wishing Albert to be alive to solve the problem of your generation.
2. you are a waste to creature for comparing even placing Albert above God.

Mr foul mouth. am not insulting God

aaronson:
I'm still wondering to myself, how did Albert Einstein ever know gravitational wave was responsibly for gravity?
That guy is greater than God for having such a bright mind, Even God the owner of the said universe can not put checks and balances to such disastrous disaster like hurricane. I believed if Einstein was still alive, he would have proffered solution to help Astrophysicist solve this hurricane disaster.

give credit to Isaac Newton who observe it.

in my own opinion. this is what should be done.

we have great minds among us. wole Soyinka for example can be our voice or many other intellectuals who are not afraid to tell Nigerians whom they are.

public lecture and seminar can work .....people need to unlearn what they had learn . so that misconception can be removed. this is when society we accept us.

A well organize debate on the topic should be sponsor in our universities... research can be conducted on it.


we should have a representative at the senate level and house of rep . who will be willing to fight for our right just like abrahimic religion. for example we also deserve a public holiday.


just to mention some point.

PAGAN9JA:
I believe before we proceed any further, we should first know our Rights within the framework of the Nigerian constitution and ensure that it is guaranteed to us.

according to Nigeria constitution , there is freedom of religion which is written on paper but in reality we know this is not true. imagine seeking a bill to include African traditional faith into our education curriculum just like it is for CRK and IRK. proposing herbal medicine as a field of study into our college and so many other benefit that can hasten the development of this faith will not even reach the first reading.

PAGAN9JA:
True. but today Paganism is a New Movement to unite and Propagate Traditional Tribal Faiths.
Paganism is not a religion. Just a word to describe our collective unity.

IFA is one of those faiths. You will always remain an Ifa adherent. Pagan is just a socio-political term.

I will rather prefer the word Africa traditional faithful.

PAGAN9JA:
In the Modern world we use Pagan to refer to all traditional tribal religions. it was a word used to mock us in the past but today we will use our weakness to our strength.

Pagan means villager and it is true. Our faiths are enshrined strongly in our grassroots. In our villages. Our villages have presevred our faith to some degree. so lets be proud of that.

well , I reason with you. I still believe the word pagan subjugate us , make us inferior and above all. a third class citizens of the world

PAGAN9JA:
True. but atheism are not killing our people and destroying our shrines and culture. so we can preach to them but we need to be more aggressive with the abrahamists.

I agree with you. for the sake of our culture and heritage, they also need to be checked so that it will not go into extinction . with them i foresee a dangerous society where everything is allowed .....where we worship our own desire

nnenneigbo:
I'm not an atheist, so add it to the list then. We must defeat religion.

good to know dear. it shows that you are mentally unshaken. I love it when females are vocal to express themselves.

nnenneigbo:
I challenge all the imported religions in Africa!

yes dear , atheism is also an imported idea

PAGAN9JA:
Welcome brothers. I see we are few but its a start.

yes bro . unity is the key not numbers

A good topic



we aren't pagan. the word is a foreign tag from abrahimic faithful. I will rather call them pagan. our mission should also extend to the atheist. this is growing in Nigeria.

many options are available. but our constitution in Nigeria do not favour us. this is a stopping block . Nigeria is actually a Muslim and Christian country . we are not even save to propagate our faith.

PAGAN9JA:
How many of us are left on Nairaland? Lets hold some serious talks.

State your tribe when you enter.

pls remove that foreign tag. we are not pagan. it is a foul word. I rep Yoruba. IFA adherents to be specific. I enter nairaland around three months ago.

Martinez19:
Tom, dick and Harry were slave masters in what we now know as Nigeria. Here is the discussion that occured between them on a cool night.

TOM: the blacks are underdeveloped and not learned as
we are. Our slave business involves a lot of risk
You know. Recently, there have been occurrences
of escapes and rebellion by these black apes. We
cannot overlook this given the physical strength
and number of the blacks.

DICK: a more effective means to control them will come
in handy. We need something that can control
such a large amount of people and make them
submissive as slaves. What can we do?

HARRY: how about the man made fairly tales which is
known to control the masses and have a strong
influence on the masses especially back in
England and Europe? People can be made to
believe in anything as long as they are within the
spheres of religion.

TOM: hmmmmmm. Yes! It's clear now. By imposing and
dishing out christianity to our slaves, we can get
them to be submissive to us despite our trade. Ha,
who wouldn't want a slave that would give you the
second cheek when you slap them on the first? Or
walk an extra mile for you when you give a burden
to carry for one mile? Remember Matthew 5:38 &
Matthew 5:41

HARRY : if thoroughly indoctrinated, they would forgive
us whatever harsh and inhuman treatment we
subject them to. Why? because they will want to
obey the teachings of christ. We wouldn't worry
about these dull black apes seeking revenge
becaaaauuuussse....

THE THREE SHOUTS IN UNISON :........ vengeance is for
the Lord. Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19

TOM: they would be more obedient given that they are
to obey their masters. They won't escape given
the story in the book of Philemon. Tadah, we have
just the tool of perfect control......

HARRY: they wouldn't disobey given the fiery flames of
hell. For once in my life, I find religion useful. How
about their rich lands and priceless artifacts?
given our cruel treatment of them and the verse
Matthew 5:40 and Matthew 5:42, we can take from
them whatsoever we want. They can't retaliate.

DICK: we treat them like trash and they forgive and
pray for us Matthew 5:43-48. Mehn, we are on the
path of creating our dream slaves. We are going
to be gods of men.

........ Continuation at 8:30pm

this your little play or drama between tom and dick also portray my view toward atheism .

Originakalokalo:
Now, Sango has a mode of worship, prayer, teachings, style, etc. This includes all other gods.

you do not have the knowledge of what you are saying. ask you shall be given that is what your bible recommend.

UncleSnr:
Answer by Naoya Yamaguchi


https://www.quora.com/Can-Islam-dominate-China-Korea-and-Japan-in-the-future

I could remember a very famous Japanese wrestler Antonio inoki become a Muslim. ....Japan becoming a Muslim county will be impossible. they are very xenophobic .

China may be possible if the Muslim population double their birth ratio for the next hundred years and the majority religion keeps to their current birth rate ...Muslims population can easily grow if China govt relax birth control law.


Korea . I can't really say much . but may be by conquest which I doubt it will be successful. south Korea is an ally of NATO. maybe turkey and Iran may form a synergy with Russia govt . .... but wait Russia herself promote atheism and may not support it.

Saintdude60:
For me; it is a sin... Cause it was written "Thou shall not kill".

not like mosquito or cockroaches. lol

0temAtum:
if I should use the SERIOT LANGUAGE to mention the names thr gods often call God Almighty, Nairaland antispambot will ban my account. But if youthey want the seriot names of God, I'll find way somehow to give you. I use God Almighty because currently English is the most popularly used language and as well as our official language.

God can be call any name you want or prefer, so long the name will not be a foul name. I prefer to call him olodumare because the word God is corrupt.

0temAtum:
God Almighty took the light from within himself/itself and made the beings such as Atum, Yahweh, Olorun, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Mazda and the other thousands of them.

After creating them, God Almighty didn't give them any rule to follow. They made up rules by themselves. Note that everything came into existence within God all at once, but to the outer universe God Almighty made the first gods to be while the humans remained as light within him. And as soon as the gods in the outer universe make images like themselves, the lights within God, which are human souls, animal souls, etc enter into the images moulded by the gods and they become living souls in the outer universe too.

When the gods make other beings by their mouldings, they thought they were in total control. That's why some gods like Allah, Yahweh, Mazda etc still think that the humans that became living beings through them are actually their own works. Everything came to be from the lights within God and whatever is achieved come through the lights. Imaginations are from the lights as well as illuminations.

However, the texture, colour, etc of human bodies are made after the resemblance of the particular god who moulded them. That's why the Yorubas look like Olorun, the Igbos like chukwu and the Jews like Jehovah aka Satan. I join Itopa to wonder why my people think Yahweh created them in his own image

As LONG AS THE LIGHT OF GOD DWELLS IN US, WE ARE gods TOO AND WE CAN CREATE. PEACE TO THE EARTH AND WORLDLY BLISS TO ALL. ASE!

I had correct you over this idea . you are still repeating it. God Almighty is simply an English name. you and I can't be God because we do not meet up with the quality.

Hati13:
You are right, but since Christianity had been with us for 1600-2000 years, it had become our identity.

Speaking of Oromo, traditionalists believe that Oromo ppl of Ethiopia traditional religion is the oldest and monotheistic religion in the world and that Moses borrowed the Ten Commandments from them.

yes bro, I even believe Christianity and Islam copy some part of my tradition the Yoruba tradition religion. this is a study yet to be confirm. IFA tradition has existed for over 8 thousand years ago making it more older than Christianity ,Islam and Judaism

I have seen so many IFA teachings in Quran and bible too. I await a clear scholarly evidence that will buttress my claim that this books were originally plagiarized from Africa.

Hati13:
I'm a none believer Ethiopian. I'm a History student, so I know our post mid 4th century AD History was very much related with Christianity. Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox was and still the most important identity of true Ethiopians; especially to the majority of Amhara, Tigray and Agew ppl in which I belong.

Majority of the Christians in Ethiopia are very devoted to their faith and strictly follow the Orthodox rules like pasting for 250s days per year (Wednesday and Friday always), avoiding some banned foods and others.

I know most of my ancestors were devoted Orthodox Christians, so it's part of my identity. I know I don't believe in God, but I want to go and have great connections with Christianity sites here in Ethiopia like:-
- The Lalibela churches
- The Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion
- Debre Lebanos and Damo monasteries
- The churches and monasteries in lake Tana
- The churches in Debre Brehan
- And others....

I want the Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox Christianity to continue to exist as long as possible. I get mad when I read in History books about the destruction of churches, monasteries and Christianity texts. I see Islam as an enemy of Ethiopia. I want Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity supremacy over Islam in Ethiopia.

Ok know coming to my question, is there any none believers here who feels like I do and wants to associate with his/her ancestors religion identity like Christianity, Islam or any other?

I agree with you but on different note. both Christianity and Islam are adopted religion in Ethiopia.

I think we should go back to our tradition. monotheism religion exist long ago in Africa before the white men adopt it.

this will eliminate neo colonialism.

we are not idol worshipper . we believed in the most supreme even before them.

there is a lot of similarities between IFA adhrent(nigeria ) and Ethiopia tradition religion especially the oromo tribe. they believe in the most supreme call waka which is consulted through a mediator called ayana. this how is it among Yoruba tribe. we believe in the most supreme olodumare. we consult him through orunmila though a priest call babalawo. oromo called them killa

but I think your country has done well better than Nigeria for now. your country has implement a degree in herbal medicine in her university. a way forward I think.

infonancialhub:
The rate of domestic violence reported (as thousands would go unreported) since the beginning of the year is so alarming, every day we wake up hearing such terrifying headlines as this:
Woman Battered and Inflicted with a deep cut by her husband in Lagos.
Man stabbed to death by his wife just after their wedding.
Six months pregnant woman brutally battered by husband.
Man stabs wife to death one month after their court wedding.
These are heartbreaking stories, clearly domestic violence and abuse is on rise, as a matter of fact, nearly three in ten women have experienced physical violence since age 15, one in four married women experienced physical, sexual, emotional abuse by their husband of partner.

It is time to stand up against this mess, it’s time for us to fight against it, and it is time to speak up, don’t die in silence. A lot of women have chosen to stay in a violent relationship or marriage and some end up losing their lives, leaving their children to suffer.

It is better to avoid an abusive relationship, rather than going into and looking for a way out later, most people who find themselves in it are scared to leave, they think their partner will change. The truth is you can’t change the person except the person wants to change, the best you can do for them is to pray for them and let God do the changing.

There are some signs of an abusive man that you should not ignore, and yes this sign is also applicable to women as well so men pay attention.

He is too controlling: He wants to control every part of your life, where you go, what you eat, the clothes you wear, and the friends you should hang out with, he will always check your cell phone, check your chats to know whom you are communicating with, just last week I read about a man who stabbed his wife to death over a text message he saw on her phone. It’s good for a man to be in control but let it not be overbearing, hereby preventing your partner from having a life outside the relationship.
He is Overly Jealous: The truth is if you really love someone you will be a jealous lover, true love protects, shields, no one wants to lose what he or she cherishes, even God is a jealous God. Now when being jealous is too much it becomes dangerous because it will lead to distrust, if he sees you talking or receiving calls from the opposite sex he complains, he says you are cheating on him, gradually unnecessary arguments will come up which is not healthy for the relationship.
He wants to isolate you: He just wants you to himself, he doesn’t want you to have friends or even spend time with them, and he tries to isolate you from the rest of the world.
He Blames you all the time: He is always playing the victim, even when he does something wrong, he blames you for his actions, even for being abusive, never sees any wrong in his actions and never buys your opinion or ideas about things. Your success scares him, he doesn’t want you to be more successful or richer than him, and he feels intimidated.
He has a bad temper: We all get upset sometimes, it’s okay, the most important thing is for you to be able to control your anger and not hurt anyone, even with words too. Whenever you have disagreements with your man and he starts punching walls, breaking plates, television, breaking bottles, yelling insults at you, my darling it’s time to leave that relationship, it’s not a healthy one. Before you know it he will start slapping your pretty face and punching it, and then he will bribe you with gifts or even take you for shopping and crocodile tears, “Baby I am so sorry, you know I wasn’t in my right senses” that’s the normal lyrics. If sweetheart can’t express his feelings without throwing things then something is wrong (and it’s not with you).


If you have noticed this signs in your relationship then it’s time to pack your bags, it’s time to walk away from that relationship, if you are married it is advised that you move out of the house to a place where you will be safe, till the situation gets better, protect your life because it is priority.

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what about a female. I need to know

Ayo001:
How does not believing in God improve or better your lives now?

I like your question.

Cossybob:
I was once a church loving boy. I could participate in all activities in church(An altar server,Chorister,a legionary and an Usher) and yes everyone loved me. The zeal to attend church programmes was there and i always loved to be in the midst of believers and i can say i loved God.
But as time went,I noticed all these were/are no longer there, i now believe science more and i now think science has an explanation for everything that happens. I no longer hold the things of God with esteem. I think i no longer believe in what God can do, and to be sincere i am very sad about this. I don't know what to do as i am losing it. I don't want to become an atheist,in fact i don't like atheism. I know there is a true God but it seems a force is pulling me back and wanting to give up my faith. The faith i have known for long, the faith i have believed. What can i do please. I don't want to become an atheist.
Ps--No offense to atheists in here

my dear, try to understand this fact. science and religion are human made. none of them can explain all you want or need. it is ultimately base on human belief and by definition, it is incomplete . so just enjoy learning and keep using your brain until the day you die.

my advice for you. keep loving your imaginary friend(God) like I do. it check sinful act and balance good moral

butterflylion:
It's not about atheism. All I said was critical thinkers. If atheists feel they fit that category then all well and good and if theists fit that category all well and good as well.

I said there is no evaporation because there is absolutely no drop of water on earth but there is sunlight. How hot, I do not know. There is also no rainfall due to the same reason.

even with 99 percent less humidity or equal to the size of room temperature. evaporation will still occur. therefore if there is sunlight ,there will be rainfall and likewise evaporation.

butterflylion:
You are thinking in line with evolution. I have said repeatedly on this thread that anyone who wishes to answer has to first drop all the were told about evolution.

The OP says plants do not need water in his world only humans do.

I didn't say there was no sunlight.

you said there is no evaporation.

I am not an atheist hope you know.

butterflylion:
If you feel that would help your answer then by all means go ahead and find a replacement then come and attempt answering.

I don't have an alternative. you made an assumption. if there is no water nor sunlight. then how those the plant survive.

butterflylion:
You are repeating what most have said already. So you want to attempt it now?

I will only attempt it . if it is possible to find a replacement for water. assumption don't work that way. there should be closeness to the truth. am willing to attempt it if you can find a replacement for water or sunlight.

butterflylion:
Let's assume there is no water anywhere on earth. No streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, seas and oceans.

Let's assume rain does not fall and we never experience evaporation and Condensation and plants do not need water to thrive but humans do.

Now let's apply critical thinking.

How would the whole world be able to survive without water? Are we or science capable of manufacturing water on a large scale, the kind that would sustain the entire world?

If water was not already available and by pure "coincidence" as science often alludes is able to always be available even though the process of water creation is extremely complex and volatile yet nature somehow was able to achieve this feat unaided (according to science).

How would man be able to manufacture (create) water for the entire world?

Hint: before you make your comment please read up on water creation first.

May the critical thinkers now show themselves

water and sunlight is a critical component of every thing. plant nor man can't survive without them. no evaporation no sunlight or no sunlight no evaporation.

human from the beginning can't survive without water. human consists of 65 percent water and 8 percent blood. the blood composed an element called plasma it is even made of 55 percent water. in fact I will say human is made of water. human can not exist without water. water flow through our our blood , carrying oxygen and nutrients to the cells , cushion our joint and soften tissue . just to mention some point .
our planet can't thrive without water and sunlight.

I think this should be your question. can scientists find a replacement for water?

chemystery:
I can't remember you showing me anything

visit any local orthopedic center in your area. if you are residing in Yoruba land it is called ile arogun. you will see for yourself where damage rejected leg at FMC being nuture back to life without Orthodox medicine nor artificial intelligence.simply incantation and some local herbs

purem:
This question has been on my mind for some times now bcoz the level at which our Christians believe in their pastor that they can go the extra mile at abusing and cursing the non Christian that will say something against their pastor.

And The scriptures has recorded numerous scenes were Jesus Christ has done a similar miracles like feeding a thousands of people with little bread and fish.

so my question is; WHAT IF ON A GOOD SUNDAY YOUR PASTOR TURNS A STONE TO BREAD AND TELLING YOU THAT JESUS HAS TOLD HIM TO DO SO THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE IT HAS HOLY COMMUNION? would you eat it?

NB; BE SINCERE ON YOUR ANSWER AND PUT MORE LIGHT ON EITHER YES OR NO.



MODERATORS. plz we need more people to discuss on this question

provided there is thick chocolate and sardine available.

iamgenius:
Yeah you can start exposing Islaam, and lets see how far you can go. Sorry, I know what you about to say; Islaam supports terrorism, child marriage, support having slaves(especially raping of female slaves), Muhammad is a sex monger, what else? See, I exposed you first. Why are you so dull? Ogun worshipper.

I don't engage in an insulting debate. my understanding of Islam will not center on your own approach. I doubt you can even handle it.

if you really want to engage me . stop insulting .