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Hmm.

This is just media propaganda as usual. Russia will not use nukes in this war as long as the homeland is not threatened. The stakes are just too high.

2ndly, to those who say "small ukraine", it is actually the second largest country in europe by land mass. Only European Russia is larger. It is also the 8th largest populationwise and heavily urbanized.

To those who say NATO/US will nuke Russia, if Russia utilize tactical nukes in Ukraine, that might be a tall order when they know fully well that Russia will in turn glassify a few hundred NATO cities. Will US risk New York for Kyiv, or UK risk London for Kherson? Yes, Russia will totally be desolated in a nuclear war, but so will NATO countries.

Lastly, we all should pray for peace. A NATO/Russian nuclear war will affect Africa and Nigeria. Imagine more than 70% of the world agricultural produce gone, over 80% of industrial products(almost none of which are produceable in africa). There will be widespread famine, startvation, breakdown of law and order. In case y'll forget, We import almost every damn thing. Yes, we might not be nuked but we definitely will feel the impact. Just see what the stoppage of Ukrainian wheat did to price of bread in Nigeria.

Peace is always the solution.

Great that they are civil. A court of competent jurisdiction has ruled against camping but allowed passage. Both sides should adhere to the ruling.

Released now. Just checked. It might be easier to create a profile and check from within

Na wa. Their site says not realeased. Their twitter page says we should stay tuned. Dunno who come release result

Edit:
Result now available online.

noble71:
Hmmm, it all depends on what you mean by wedding, if it's traditional marriage only, it also depends on the state and tradition of the people. But generally in this Buhari economy #700k can't. If it's only Court Marriage 300k is enough.

We all keep forgeting that people marry with less than 20-30k all the time. Yes, we make look down on them as having a less serene wedding, but when your salary is 30-40k, you wont think of 700k wedding. Have u every thought of how much the woman selling ewa agoyin used in getting married? Or the one selling drinks in traffic? Whatever we spend on weddings, appart from those necessary for the legal documentation is frivolities. The whites we claim to copy wed all the time with minimal costs

Righteousness2:
It was so wonderful!
28 yrs is not 28 days.
28yrs is not akara neither is it moimoi.
What GOD Cannot does not Exist.
The GOD of Chosen is so Great!
The GOD of Chosen answers prayers.

Now i know you are kolomental. Which one be God of Chosen? Is it different from God of Redeem? God of Oshofa, or God of Depeer life?

This ones wey dey wear "reflector" like person wey trailer kill for former life

Hmmmmn. Guess they are trying to sort out the Divestment of ExxonMobil 's onshore asset. Buhari erroneously approved the sales of the assets to Seplat earlier before rescinding his decision due to pressures from NUPRC. The sale of those assets can not favour Nigeria as other IOCs are just waiting to do the same.

Wont be surprised if they announce approval again. Someone with vested interest arranged this meeting.

Bluntguy:
Face the message and not the messenger.

Which message? A gospel of fear and gloom? Thats not the message of Christ.

By the way, earth has experienced several extinctions level events for millions of years and the earth is still here

IceColdVeins:
That guy is confidently yarning dust.

Lols, quick search on wiki.

Lepa shandy came out 2002, gauo was recorded in 1999

He wasnt saying "lepa" either. Lepa is a yoruba word. Its been in vogue b4 the song.

"n'est pas gaou oh"

Wilgrea7:
Very few atheists claim it's an accident. To say it's an accident is to say that you KNOW what caused everything to be.

She is saying she doesn't know. Big difference.

Also.. it's one thing to say that something was caused by something.. and it's another thing to claim that you know the nature of the first cause.

Theists don't just claim that there is a God who created everything. They claim more. Much more.

They claim the God is singular.. they claim the God had a son.. they claim the God doesn't like when we work on the Sabbath day.. they claim the God will one day judge us and send some to a place called hell.. and others to a place called heaven.

They make a myriad of other claims without a single shred of objective evidence to back up their claims.

Belief in a first cause does not equate to theism.. there is a big void of evidence that must be filled first

Great.

Belief is termed as such because it has no shred of objective evidence to back up its claims. Otherwise, we wont have to "believe" we will rather "know" for example, i do not have to believe that men have two hands. I know they do

Theism is much closer to atheism than most people think. The theist believes there is a supreme God and it is his/her own version. He believes all other "gods" are false and product of other religions imaginations. He believe in only one out of thousands of gods.

The atheist simply believes in none of the thousands.

Note that most theistic religions are exclusive.

Christians: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Muslims: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.

So to both religions, the other party is not much better than a atheist, all other faith are going to hellfire. Even some Christians belief other denominations like catholics, JW etc are going to hell

There comes a stage where the level of what you know makes it difficult to accept the rationality of what you are meant to believe.

Current rate? Wanna sell 1500

Hmmm. They keep scamming us with this moribund money-guzzling refineries

WatchYourSix:
.who da heck leaves 24 million per year job for masters in uk..

Thats a senior management remuneration ...
make una no dey cap any how jarè....People always like fabricating worst case scenarios to prove a point ..

I have three friends who just did that. One went for a degree, the other two got job offers. Its not just about money, its security and peace as well as freedom from this religiously and tribally toxic environment.

oyatz:
In Saner climes, ONLY INEC can announce the results of an election

Results still get called by the press. You see near instant collation of results by the press including statistics. this makes it quite difficult for results to be changed or manipulated. This is part of how the Press guards our democracy.

Mind you they do not declare results, thats the Umpire's job.

In saner climes, the Press would have called this election by now. The data is available of INEC website for simple collation.

Weak journalism

Thank God for your life. There should be mandatory testing before marriage. This should be added to the law. And religious entities should insist on this too especially up north.

Love got most families into this financially debilitating conundrum

tundeloveday:
Affidavit ain’t gonna work bro. She’s got to apply separately if at al. She s old enough to be held responsible on job, savings, income, landed properties etc.

Na wa o. Thought having a sponsor for the trip will help her secure the visa. Seems UK prefers people to have their own funds.

giselle237:
how much do you earn monthly.. how much is your expenses monthly.. what are you left with in the end? Start from there.

Net to bank is usually around 400k monthly. Monthly Expense is around 200k-300k. I do have around 700k in monthly coop savings deducted at source(reflect on payslip but never hits my bank)

tundeloveday:
How old is she?
Do u both have same surname?
Depending on the answer, Get an affidavit stating u are her guardian or u Get her own bank statement if she’s over 18

Alternatively she can pass as your daughter MAYBE...

Different surname actually and too old to pass as my daughter. I be young person mysef. Plus i really wont wanna lie while filling such forms. Maybe the affidavit will work. Thought there is group application but their web says individual applications.

tundeloveday:
Sounds you already got the visa. Depends on the document accuracy of what u listed. You can’t sponsor your sister with ur statement of account though

Thanks for your input. She is an adult and has been living with us for 3 years plus. Typical nigerian job issues. I'd really hate to leave her behind while we are on holz. How best do you think i can secure her a visa?
None of us have travelled before.

I am planning on visiting the dubai/UK with my wife, a sister and my kid. We plan on visiting dubai for a week(staying in hotel), then moving to UK for another week where we will be staying with a friend before returning back home.

How easy will it be to get required visas(my wife retained her dad's name though we have a registry issued marriage cert) and i work with an IOC. I have bank statements, statement for shares, payslips, employment letters etc. Our host in UK is also willing to share neccesary docs to proof his adress.

Which of the Visa should we apply for first?
My fear is for my wife and sister who i will be paying for as they do not have their own income stream.

Secondly how much is this likely to cost(first time traveller)

ednut1:
go to the UK as what Visitor, work permit after getting a legit job , for studies or to go hoin spouse.

I am planning on visiting the UK too with my wife, a sister and my kid. We plan on visiting dubai for a week(staying in hotel), then moving to UK for another week where we will be staying with a friend before returning back home.

How easy will it be to get required visas(my wife retained her dad's name though we have a registry issued marriage cert) and i work with an IOC.

Dtruthspeaker:
I have explained it already. A tenant having 2 landlords is a tormentous living! Peace resides in having One Ruler!



There is no "presuppose" in what is Seen.

We have seen that no 2 Captains can rule a ship. No 2 kings can rule a land. No 2 C.E Os in one Company

So, you fall here.



2 kings, 2 Lands whereas you were supposed to show 2 Kings on 1 Land, so you fall here.

So you see, by your example, you can not show 2 kings successfully ruling 1 Land!

So, you fall!



You have seen I have provided it and you forget that this is not the issue. So provide a valid rebuttal if you have any and not call on me to give further proof.



Just repeating the same question already answered.

There are thousand of deities claiming to be the one true God. Based on your earlier submissions, can you truthfully identify the one true God? Without using hearsay just like you mentioned. Books for me will fall into the hearsay category as you earlier refuted anything that is not based on direct observation as hearsay.

Wilgrea7:
Hello again wonderful people.

Today, I want to be talking about why things we consider "supernatural" don't serve as proof of a "God".

This is something I hear a lot of theists say. And in my most recent discussion, I was asked on several occasions if i would accept "God" if I had a supernatural experience. I find a number of things wrong with that question.

But before I continue, I want to quickly say that this post isn't trying to disprove the existence of God, or any specific religious god (whatever that means). The goal is simply to show that the argument for the supernatural as proof of a God, is not a very good one.

Let's begin.

Two major issues I have with questions like this are

1. What you mean by "God"
2. What you mean by supernatural

If by God, you mean a supreme creator deity, who is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything in it, I don't see why things deemed as supernatural are required to prove its existence. A universe created by a "God" can still exist without the occurrence of supernatural events. A natural world can serve as much proof of a creator as a supernatural one.

The next issue I have with the question is the word "supernatural". In most cases, this is used to mean something which goes beyond our current understanding of the natural world. While there's nothing wrong with that, there's something we need to understand.

Our current knowledge, or understanding of the natural world is incredibly limited. Granted, we know way more today than we've ever known in the past, but there's still so much we don't know.

To claim that something is supernatural, is to imply that you completely understand how the natural world is supposed to work, and that whatever occurred could have never occurred in a natural world. Please not that rarity does not equate to impossibility. The fact that something rarely happens, doesn't mean it could never have happened.

Science or the scientific method tries to observe the world as we know it, and then creates laws based on how it has observed these things to work. As our knowledge grows and we observe more things, these laws are either further solidified, or updated, to reflect our expanded view of reality. But at the end of the day, it all falls in the realm of the natural.

Since i want this discussion to be more of a philosophical thing and less of a religious thing, i'll give some examples of things we have either experienced, or heard of. And not things found in religious texts. So let's take 2 examples. The experience of Voodoo (like someone disappearing, jazz against guns, etc), and the reports of ghost-related stories (seeing dead people or relatives, talking with ghosts or being attacked by them, and so on)

The first is the experience of voodoo, or jazz. As nigerians, we've either seen, or heard of things like this. Touch and follow, teleportation, madness jazz, bulletproof and knifeproof stories, and so on. I'm not trying to deny the existence of these things. But at the same time, these events are proof of one thing. That there exists certain things, which we don't yet understand.

Based on our current knowledge of reality, there's no logical explanation for why someone can vanish into thin air and re-materialize elsewhere. Or why a lead bullet going at several hundred feet per second won't be able to penetrate human flesh. But these things only prove that many conditions of our reality are still unknown to us.

They don't prove a "God" any more than our current observable universe does. Whether or not our current observable universe is proof of a god is another debate entirely.

The other scenario is ghost-related stories. We have stories of people seeing ghosts, or being attacked by them, or being able to talk to them, and so on.

First of all, we don't completely understand what we are. The origin of consciousness is still a mystery to us. To say that something can, or cannot exist after death is to imply that we completely understand how the conscious mind works, as well as what happens after the body ceases its function.

As humans, we evolved to see and interact with the immediate world around us. But that doesn't mean all we see is all there is to reality. For example, most science students know of the electromagnetic spectrum. UV rays, gamma rays, radio waves and so on. We can't physically see them, but we can experience, as well as measure their effect.

Radium is one of the most radioactive elements we currently know of. It emits powerful gamma radiation which is incredibly dangerous to humans. Our 5 senses (touch, taste, sight, smell and hearing) have no way of detecting gamma radiation. But it still has a very real effect on us. It is as natural as natural can be.

If you told people about 4000 years ago, that a pile of radium could kill you by simply standing near it (not touching it. just standing around it), they would probably attribute it to a god of death of some sort. Or say the element was cursed or something. After all, the 5 senses were the only tools they had at the time to detect danger.

Same thing goes for germs. Before we invented microscopes and found out about germs, a physician named Ignaz Semmelweis discovered that washing your hands before delivering a baby stopped people dying from what was known as "childbed fever". The idea seemed incredibly nonsensical at the time, and the death were probably attributed to the wrath of the gods or something. Today we know better.

Similarly, who is to say that voodoo, ghosts, and other things we deem supernatural are simply not just the effect of things we've not yet discovered, but are still very much real? Who is to say that we won't discover something new that could change our entire concept of reality?

A lot of things don't make sense yet, but who is to say they never will? As our knowledge grows, so will our understanding of what we call reality, and the real world. And when we finally understand things. It won't be "supernatural". It'll just be natural. As natural as UV, radio and gamma rays. As normal as microscopic organisms. As normal as any other thing we consider "normal" today.

Once again, this post is not to try to disprove the existence of a god. A creator being, or first cause, could still exist without the experience of supernatural events like we see today. But that is another debate entirely.

Over to you guys

Funny things was that half way through this, i had to go back and check the name of the OP. Thought i might have posted this. Could see myself writing this. But we live in a society where religion supersedes common sense. Its an excuse for our docility and lack of scientific zeal.

Arthur C. Clarke: “Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.”

And his last two laws

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Imagine telling Ptolemy, Archimedes, Pythagoras of a machine that can travel underwater, or fly humans in the air. Or telling them that they can talk in Rome and someone in sparta will hear then near instantly. 100years ago, most of what we take for granted now are in the realm of magic. Nuclear weapons, long range missiles, travelling to the moon, self driving cars etc.

If the supernatural is only so until we understand it, then was it ever supernatural?

Michelle55:
3 idiots
Fast and Furious
Baahubali
Accident man
No time to die
Black Panther
Ambulance
Cheaper by the dozen
Wrath of man
Home alone(1-4)
THUG
The Old Guard
Wonder
..... Let me stop here

Add Black (Amitabh Bachan) to your list

Nigeria.

I did the online pre registration, got an appointment. I went to the registration centre on the allotted day and time and they told me my online appointment is meaningless. I should go and join the queue. Looking at the queue and the rate of attending to people, it was obvious i'll spend the next 6-7hrs there. Unto wetin? Na so i waka go back home. And its looking like the options are going to be these recycled old men anyway.

Scammers. And they see themselves as pious muslims.

The problem now is that Atiku has taken several financial losses over his past attempts. If he wins, he will be focused on recouping his losses first. Which is why the monetization of the election process is bad idea.

Hmmm. Why are they going to court if he has no intention of running for the presidency.

ZenithBanking:
I have a big probem.

I'm always peeping on my neigbhours/friends unclothedness when ever they are taking their bath.

It all started six years ago during my ND in school, & up till now, i'm still living with it.

During my ND, there is no famale tenant that i didn't see her unclothedness to more than a million time, even when i went back for my HND, i did thesame thing.

I'm currently serving right now, and i'm still doing thesame thing here. I peep on my neigbhous and fellow corps member here.

I've been doing this for six years, and i've never being caught. Sometimes i ask God; why was i not being caught all those times in school, why didn't GOD want me to get caught.

I've tried every possible means to stop it, but all failed, even when i don't want to do it, my spirit will keep pushing me & if i don't do it at that time, i won't rest.

It seems i can't live without it.

I know someday i will be caught and embarrassed and get my pictures uploaded online for this crime.

I'm afraid, i need help.

Nothing bad in that. Just be ready to addicted to disgrace, jungle justice and occassional holidays in a police cell