De29ja; Thanks so much for the clarification from someone who has seen it all. At least you've been able to clear the air. Let those who think that by self study they can speak better than Angela Merkel continue dreaming.
De29ja: To Attain such level depends on your IQ but i would say it may not be possible (if possible it would take time and bros no time to waste) Why because 1: Environment you learn a language matters 2: Level at which you use the German you learn in Nigeria(not everyday) 3: You are learning to Pass Goethe Zertifikat Deutsch but here it's not like that because you need it for your everyday activities (it's not every German that speaks English)... Upon the Fact that i learnt German at Goethe reach B2 when i came, the one they were speaking here was kinda strange!! not that i didn't / couldn't understand but because they spake fast enough for me not to construct every sentence in my head plus the Winter was not helping matters ... SO BROS E NO POSSIBLE..
Thanks at least someone who knows better has came to address the issue. Please, is it possible to attain the level of a near native speaker through self study? i.e without attending a language school here in Nigeria.
De29ja: Don't be dismayed. It's not as hard as it is been pictured..Learning the Language here in Germany is easier oder leichter anders gesagt Believe me Although it's more expensive compared to Goethe in Lagos or any other Language school in Nigeria..
Goethe institute is at Catholic mission street. You can easily locate Goethe institute from CMS. Just board Keke-Napep from Broad street and tell them that you are going to Lagos City Hall opposite Holy Cross Cathedral. Goethe is located inside the City hall, Last floor.
leadzeal: Please can someone answer this question.
Coming from the mainland (ojullegba, yaba), how can one get to the goethe center
Brilliant! Keep it up bro. In no distant time you will become more fluent than Angela Merkel.
stoicism: Bros people are learning and can learn languages on their own or with very little support. I am a near native speaker of a language I learnt almost totally on my own. Just saying..
Well, if what you are saying is true it means that attending a language school is useless. What is the need of attending a language school when you can learn it on your own? Someone just said that he has attained the level of a near native speaker by self study i.e without attending a language school. Wow! That person must be a genius, Keep it up. Perhaps the German government made a mistake by establishing Goethe institute in Nigeria. I have a friend who tried his best leaning the language on his own but at last he ended up at Goethe. Please, am not tying to discourage anyone. The comments I made was based on my own personal experience.
Thank You.
Ceeesaw: I totally disagree with you.. With all the learning aids online especially Youtube, someone who is dedicated can do it. People learn languages by simply living with the people, how much more when you dedicate ample time to it. Don't discourage the guy. His idea is good. It sounds very practical. Infact that is the method am using and am making small progress.(I dont have a partner tho) It has nothing to do with being brilliant or not. The only reason why I will advice Leadzealto go for the institute is 1) if he wants/needs the certificate 2) If he finds it hard creating time to study 3) If he doesn't have constant internet connection to be able access the materials online 4) if he finds it difficult studying on his own.
Also If you go to playstore you can download a lot of apps that give step by step guide to learning german. Some are developed by goethe institute.
Bros, Know it today that no matter how brilliant you are you cannot teach yourself when it comes to learning a foreign language that is completely new to you. Even some of us that had the opportunity to attend Goethe one time or the other still find it difficult learning the language on our own. Most of our teachers at Goethe institute used to tell us back then that it is easier to learn German in Nigeria than learning it in Germany, but up till today I still believe that the statement is false. The reason is this; Our German starts at Goethe and ends in Goethe when we get home we have no one to speak with us. Even in the office we have no one to speak with us. So learning German in an English speaking environment was a challenge to me. I don't know about others. There is nothing like learning German in a German speaking environment. And again academic brilliance does not transcend German language brilliance. Some people may not be that gifted academically but may be very good in language learning. While some maybe very brilliant academically but may not be that good when it comes to language learning. My own conclusion on this issue if for you to attend Goethe institute or any other private language school if you still have the time. Self study can never be the same as leaning the language from those who knows how to write and speak the language.
leadzeal: A Proposal of Learning german with a partner.
The idea that I may go to a land where I don't understand their language brings unfathomable worries to me.
I have gone through the dropbox list and I can classify the materials for someone that may at least understand vowels and pronouns already.
But for a newbie, it can be a little daunting. Though I am considering goethe institute, I know I do better studying alone and at my pace.
I am writing this to throw out a proposal. I am proposing for a partner that is ready to learn this language as much as I want. But there is a little condition attached.
[b]The partner should be male because I am male as well. This is to prevent any form of distraction.
The partner must have no idea about german, because we are both going to grade ourselves after every month.
We will give each other specific task to cover like videos to watch or books to read for a specific period (usually for a week).
After the task completion, we will evaluate ourselves at the end of a week, this will be done via phone call of 1-2 hours(Likely night calls). We will both ask each other questions from memory (no material) and even greet each other in german.
At the end of the third week, our conversation would be 40% german, we say things in english if we can't get or remember the german wordings. If the other person know the word, then correction is noted.
Importantly, If at the end of the month, no tangible progress. We bid each other bye.
If the first month is successful, we will send each other email everyday to improve our writing skills. The email should be without guide, purely from memory. We can also call each other anytime of the day, but it most be in german.
The partner should be aiming for B1/B2 Certification. This is to increase our seriousness more, cos an A1 aim would not get us there.
Our target should be 3 months (Usual time to grasp a language about 70% upward from research)
At the end of the second month, we will recommend novels to each other that most be finished. When we talk after the conclusion of the novel, either of us can summarize.
At the third month, we can relax with german movies (I know where to download such).. We should communicate more in this our new found love. [/b] Below is part of the materials we will use
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZAWygYoN30 ( They are about 22 videos; but to save your data, I advice you download it using clipconverter.) I downloaded the first one and it is just 10mb for 6 minutes vid length. ---Likely start with this first
If you are really motivated and buy this idea, send me a PM. I am on the mark already just waiting for a fellow iron so we sharpen each other as we progress.
Williamso: Do not mind what the embassy says. INTERVIEW DATES ARE NOT GIVEN ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS!
Yes exactly visa appointment dates at the embassy are not given on first come, first serve basis. I booked for visa appointment on the 30th of June I was given 10th of August. Someone else booked two weeks later she was given 4th of August. I have a friend that booked 3 weeks after I had booked mine he was given the same date with me.
Please, do not make a mistake of cramming. You can easily forget when you cram. Just try your best to know it. It's not as difficult as what you are going to face in the cause of studying in Germany. If you can be able to know at least 10-12 states and capitals out of the 16 states you are good to go. Arranging a mork interview can go along way to help if you have someone around you who will be willing and able to do that for you.
My interview is next week please I need some tips on how to ace the interview......I can't quite "cram" the 16 states as hard as I try.......will not knowing the 16 state by heart affect my chances of been given a visa?
Savings account will do. But if you have access of opening a current account you can go ahead and do so. But savings account is ok.
kingsleymike: Regarding block account funding. I visited just two banks (GTBank, Fidelity Bank) in my area Festac Town. After I explained what I came for, I discovered that some of these bankers to a large extent lack knowledge of the task they have been saddled with. As for GTBank- the lady I was directed to made some calls and told me sorry that they have stopped Form A transactions. When i insisted and mentioned thier HQ, she said i should try their HQ that they might be an exception. As for Fidelity, I got in there, went to the Funds Transfer section and made my inquiries but I was surprised the lady said to me, I must have a corporate acct b4 I can talk about Form A transactions. So I got out and sent a mail to their headquarters and this is their reply below-
Dear Mr. Kingsley,
Thank you for your mail.
Regarding your enquiry, please note that we do not send out soft copy for form A. You will have to visit the branch with the following requirements:
FOR PAYMENT OF SCHOOL FEES
1. Current School Bill (the validity should be within the existing school calendar year and also under school logo) 2. School admission letter (for authenticity, it must be under school’s letterhead, or school logo, if sent via e-mail) 3. Copy of Applicant’s (account holder) International passport bio date page or certificate of incorporation/business registration for corporate bodies. 4. Customer’s Letter of Authority to debit for the transaction (properly verified by the branch) 5. Completed Form A with the school’s name indicated as the beneficiary. 6. For post-graduate degree, copy of First Degree Certificate (not Statement of Result) Note that school fees will be paid directly into the school’s account.
FOR PAYMENT FOR STUDENT’S UPKEEP OR LIVING ALLOWANCE
1. Estimates of the Student’s Living Allowance on the school’s letter-head for authenticity 2. School admission letter (for authenticity, it must be under school’s letterhead, or school logo, if sent via e-mail) 3. Copy of Applicant’s (account holder) International passport bio date page or certificate of incorporation/business registration for corporate bodies. 4. Customer’s letter of authority to debit account for the transaction (properly verified at the branch) 5. Completed Form A with the student named as the beneficiary. 6. For post-graduate degree, copy of First Degree Certificate (not Statement of Result) Currently, the only option for form A payments is interbank funds which can be accessed any day. The rate is as advised by Treasury Group.
Thank you for choosing Fidelity Bank.
.....so the bottom-line is that it is 100% possible using the Form A for funding the students acct. Again, seems one must be an acct holder. What I don't know now is what type of account needed ( savings or current).
Why did he went and used Sky Bank when all the Oga's on this thread are advising people to use either Fidelity, Union, Diamond or First Bank? The guy funny sha! Could it be that he is the architect of his own misfortune? I could remember when I wanted to make enquiry about payment into blocked account at Zenith Bank. The lady I met there told me that it can't be done. I tried to explain things to her she kept on looking at me like an Egyptian Mummy, but when I went to Union Bank Headquarters (Stallion Plaza) they gave me every assurance that it can be done once I open an account with them. They even showed me copied of the ones they did for other candidates. I had no other option than to transfer all my money from my bank to Union Bank Headquarters.
Obiwannn: Bros calm down eee.....You just dey make noise for here. Na like this you wan go dey do for Germany when you are faced with a lil challenge? Before you know, you will come back here and say You regret ever going to Germany, same Germany that someone is about sponsoring his own younger brother move over there. People have used it and it worked, unless CBN just decided to change things overnight. You tried it, e no work; use the next alternative. No come here dey spew trash! It only makes you look childish. And please modify that rubbish you put up there. #PARAMODE
Mhen, me just taya for the guy o..No be wetin u use? DB never credit ur account? Which one is CBN will bounce ur money
The mistake that was made on your fathers age will in no way affect your application as long as the mistake was not made on your own age. Your father's age doesn't count.
missZ1: Victz I was born before 1991 so I was advise not to use the NPC letter as it will lead to the rejection of my application . so I want to use the declaration i obtained from the court to process my visa. Hope that is fine. Thanks
What has your father's age got to do with the your age declaration for the purpose of obtaining an NPC birth certificate? You should be more concerned about your own age not your father's. Ensure that a mistake is not made on your own age.
missZ1: Good day guys, When the court lady was filling my declaration of age. She did a mistake by saying my father's age is 82 instead of 72. Pls I need an advise. Should I stick with this age or do another one as I don't want the fact the he is too aged count against me.
@OlaChi; Why don't you check the application portals of the schools you sent your application documents to? Enter your username and password, It's always easier to track the progress of your application via the schools application/admission portals, except the university doesn't have one.
Thank you all. I was advised by the person at the International Office of one of the schools to keep calm, cus the office that receives the letters aren't the same personnel keeping the application records They have seen it but not began the process cause they have so many other applications that came before mine
Maybe the strike made them receive a whole bunch of applications too much to handle on time
Eke40seven: Well, you know that feeling you get when someone said you ain't good enough for them and immediately you get someone quite better licking your feet just to embrace them. Yes, that's just how I feel right now, I applied to similar course in Freiburg and TUM, Freiburg rejected outrightly, but TUM jus sent a letter that looks like a coated academic 'toasting' for me to accept their programme. The main thrill is, School for School TUM is better, Programme for programme, TUM is ranked about 52 in the whole world and Freiburg, 73 for same programme and the final icing on the cake, one will choose Munich over Freiburg any day. I have the option I have long sought after. I didn't plan for this programme though, my docs got there way after deadline. I wrote their essay and motivation letter which I was given marks for, plus the grade on my transcript and was given admission without the normal interview which means the score was over 70. I have always wanted an option and this is a good one. Please, endeavour to always write a good motivation letter, it has its own effect and don't give up even when the letters haven't arrived yet, it could just be closer to you than you think as far as you have done your homework. By the way, who here is heading down south to Munich?
Which one is $300? Go to British Council at Ikoyi. IELTS is 38K naira with bank draft or 35K naira online. You can actually do it yourself you don't need to pay any agent to it for you unlike TOEFL where u'll need an agent.
isidollarboy: This is great! I must say the truth. This is the first time to get such a wonderful Tips on Nairaland from you and dolpaz. you guys made my day. as TOEFL/ IELT, I made some confirmations today and was told I will spend the sum of $300 for the exam and registration. Once again thank you very much. I will always update the house with my progress
Hannover is good but Berlin is better. You will definitely find work-study programmes or student jobs in both cities. If am to chose I would prefer Berlin to Hannover.
Hello house. Please help out with candid advice... I have offers of admission from two universities in Germany: 1. TU BERLIN. 2. Leibnitz University Hannover
Ogas in the house, please advise me in terms of prospects of finding students work and life after graduating in those two cities. What is life like generally in Hannover especially?
Thank you so much.
PS: the courses I was offered by both schools are fantastic.
After 5 rejections from 5 different research Universities. I became frustrated not knowing what to do. It was that same frustration that led me to applying to two more schools last week Thursday. Eke40seven kept on encouraging me to relax. That good news is coming on the way.
After an interview that was conducted by University of Tubingen last week Tuesday. I was able to answer all the questions that was asked to the best of my ability except one that I screwed up. On Monday being the 22nd of June. University of Tubingen offered me admission to study MSc in Management and Economics. The next day Anhalt University of Applied Sciences offered me another admission to study MBA in International Trade.
It's not by my own power, It is by the grace of God because my CGPA was low. Though Am still awaiting final decision from TUM. I thank God almighty for making these happen.
Good luck to fellow nairalanders that are still waiting for admission. Eke40seven has been such a wonderful brother and friend. He has always been there to guide me through the whole application process. May God continue to bless him. My people make una help me thank God. Some of you may not really understand what I went through. It's only those that have low CGPA like me that will understand better.
Nigerians and exploitation. It's better you come over to Lagos (Alagbon) to do it. Police report won't take more than 2 hours. It's won't cost more than N5K, depending on your bagaining skills.
stoicism: I went to my state headquarter here but was told I will need 22K!!!! for the whole process. I was like just for CRIMINAL RECORD CHARACTER !!!!. I will head to Lagos tomm then,hoping that isn't more than 5k and I can get it same day.
I don't know if they do it in your state. There is a kind of biometric data that will be taking from you. Your finger-prints will be taking. Other security measure will be taking too. Try your state and see if you can get it done there. The only place I know they do it is Alagbon. That was were my coursin did his own. There is no harm in trying. You can try the police headquarters in your state and be sure before coming to Lagos.
stoicism: thanks a lot bro, pls can I also get it from the police headquarter in my state or do I have to travel down to Lagos. Tnx once again
Before applying for University of Applied Sciences Worms have you considered this?
Worms University of Applied Sciences admits international applicants within the 5% quota on international students for our Bachelors and Masters study courses and 50% for IBA Master. This does not apply to European Union citizens or to international applicants with a German university entrance entitlement.
Take into consideration that all courses are subject to admission restrictions (Numerus Clausus), which vary from term to term.
The admission procedure starts two weeks after the application deadline (January, 15 for the following Summer Term and July, 15 for the following Winter Term). As a rule, between one and six international applicants are admitted to each degree course. The applicants are admitted depending on their marks/grades , therefore only the best applicants will be admitted to study at Worms UAS.
As soon as the admission procedure is finished, you will be immediately notified in written form whether or not you have been admitted to our university.
Application fee
The Hochschule Worms is bound by law to raise a fee, of an amount of 25€, for processing Non-German applications.
The application will not be considered until we received the fee. To accelerate the process, we kindly ask you to attach a copy of the bank transfer to your application.
Please transfer the money to:
Recipient: Hochschule Worms Bank: Sparkasse Worms IBAN: DE59 5535 0010 0021 7268 75 SWIFT-BIC: MALADE 51 WOR The transfer reference field should provide the following informations:
Country of origin: Date of birth: (dd/mm/yy) Last name: First name: Application term: For instance: Mexico, 19.11.1985, Gambera Frias, Jorge Roberto,WiSe15/16
princetigris: Gurus in the house, I kind of need your advice and help... I want to apply for a M.Sc program at HS-Worms, of which the deadline to the application happens to be on the 15th July. My problem is this, the may/june WAEC cert I have shows that I was born 9 august 1982(which happens not to be ma real age), I have a G.C.E result printout(which contain my original age), I went to waec office to collect the original, but was told that I can only get it as from 17th july... pls I need help(dont wanna loose this admission). What Should I do? Should I apply with just the print-out(that's the GCE) or with the MAY/JUNE Waec(that's the one with the wrong DOB)
What they are asking for is police report. You can always get it at Alagbon. When you get to Obalende ask people to direct you to Alagbon in Ikoyi. The place is very close to Obalende. You can get a police report the same day if you are willing to pay for express.
stoicism: Guys....pls though I understand that this might be off topic here but I need to avail myself of any possible to my botheration of info. One of the requirement for the student visa of the country I am applying to is [b][/b]Original of criminal record character (casier judiciaire). I have never heard of this doc, pls kindly help with any info on where and how to get this doc in 9ja. Tnx in advance.
tobloj: Good afternoon. Pls I graduated with a 2.87 b.tech in civil engineering. What are my prospects in landing an admission for an m.sc . Thanks in anticipation
@dammymayor; My question is different, am asking if anyone has been able to secure admission in Germany with a CGPA of 2.90? Am not asking if it's possible. We all assume it's possible which I also believe it maybe possible too. But has anyone been able to secure admission with a CGPA as low as that? Please anyone like that should let us know for more clearification.
dammymayor: BRos dis question was just answered two posts before urs na. Nt even on anoda page. Pls take d time to read before asking questions. D guy clearly said 2.88 and above and ur likely to get admisiiin. And on d previous page eke40seven has shown how to convert grades in nigeria to german.
Please, My people I just want to find out if anyone has been able to secure admission in Germany with a CGPA of 2.90 on 5.0 scale which is equivalent to the required 2.5 on German scale?
Yes you can make photocopies of the student copy of your transcripts and certify as many as you'll need. You can also pay for one transcript and make them send it to an educational institution or company where you know somebody and arrange for pickups.
hadassaheke: Please o, i know its still too early to be asking, but i want to prepare on time n my school sabi delay person wella. My school (FUTO) sends transcript directly to the school one intends to do m.sc n charges 12k500, even if its 5 school, one will av to pay 12k5 times 5 (62,500) which is expensive for me ( as i av to still hussle d blocked acc iss too, which isnt funny at all), so my question is can i use student copy of the transcript and certify it n send to schools like TUM n LMU, TU Darmstadt, etc, if not how can i go about getting it without spending that kind of money..........Abeg i av being following the thread since dis yr n i started reading d thread from 0, but i dont really have any clear info on how to go about it....
LMU stated it clear that they cannot accept any other form of English language proficiency certificate/letter apart from IELTS and TOEFEL. TUM might accept as well as other schools.
hadassaheke: Good day everyone, please i was planning on writing IELTS exams as against winter 2016 ( cos schs like TUM LMU start applications from jan -feb 28 fir non- Eu). Bt considering my pocket n plus d blocked acc issue(which isnt easy) , i dont want to write again, so my question is if i use a letter from d ministry of education/ the school i grad from, that states that my study during b.tech was in English, will it affect my application, as opposed to using d IELTS eams? PS: Am going for M.sc
dammymayor: Got a friend in leipzig. Been there almost 2yrs . I have anoda in freiberg which is almost d most eastern town in germany. No complaints at all. The one in leipzig complains about job availability occasionally. But dats about d only complain he has. At d end of d day ots different strokes for different folks. Nobody here should have d impression that the east isn't hospitable. Yes we all agree dat d west and south has more students and may be more friendly but dat alone isnt a suitable job. My friend in leipzig had d opportunity to do his master thesis at the max Planck institute in leipzig. Imagine ig he turned down such an opportunity because of east no dey ffriendly. Nowhere friendly. If u want friendship stay in nigeria. My advice to anybody here is simple. If u pick a solid course in a solid school and it hapoens to be in d east better u close eye to all dis friendship thing and go. Nobe friendship u dey go find for germany.
But Frieburg is in former West Germany and not East Germany. It's Flengsburg that is in East Germany. I hope you are not mistaking Frieburg to be Flengsburg? Flengsburg is the most Eastern city.
There is no comparism between Oldernburg and Mannhiem when it comes to economy or job prospects. Mannhiem is far better, there are English speakers in Mannhiem too the same cannot be said about Oldernburg. One of American military base is situated in Mannhiem
Travel › Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by victz: 2:07pm On Jul 27, 2015
... SO BROS E NO POSSIBLE..
