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boladet:
Hey guys just thought to share this piece of information.

I have a close friend who has just had her baby in the US ,right now she is really upset as she was told her child will not have US citizenship unless the child remains in the US for the next 3yrs,. I did not know this is already taking effect, I thought it was after October 29th

Arexit:
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babytoun:
But is it true that babies born by visiting mothers must now spend 6 weeks to get citizenship.by birth ?

TWoods:
Let’s not pretend here. Your case is a tiny minority. Most here can not afford to have a baby in the US so they come here looking for the cheapest hospitals in El Paso and rooms on the cheap. Which hospitals in El Paso or even Houston demand to see your visa? Those are the folks the consulate is targeting. You got your visa approved, the rest didn’t. Speaks volumes.

ayinlaolajide:
Hi Guys! Great thread here. I have read through and found answers to most of the questions I had except a couple.

I am planning for my wife to birth a child in El-paso around April next year.

1 . Is there anyone who has had a baby in El-paso recently (preferably 2019, at Dr Esperati or a better place, but not too costly) that would be willing to share what their ENTIRE cost looked like including flights, visa's, hospital fees (esp. hidden charges) etc.? I mean all the cost!.

2. Dr Esperati's total fees (incl. hosp costs) as on website is around $5,500. I have read some threads here of people being denied visa when their cost is less than $10k or so. Could this catch me later? I really don't understand this aspect.

3. Is there anyone looking to birth a child in el-paso around April next year? Maybe we can sync and share some costs. Thanks.

TWoods:
I disagree... again i would note that your responses are biased because this is your livelihood.

Why would an international patient pay the same as a medicaid patient? You and i both know that many hospitals and doctors routinely turn down medicaid patients because they pay far lower costs than the traditional insurance model.

TWoods:
I understand that you have to defend this as this is essentially your livelihood at stake. However, the whole point of the reduced "discounts" was strictly for US citizens who cannot afford insurance. It was not meant to be abused by non-citizens. That the government is slow getting around to removing this loophole does not make it justified.

TWoods:
the VO is simply saying that it makes no sense that it costs more for the average american to have a baby in the US than a foreigner. While you may argue that you did not get a discount, you really do not know how the system works and the VO has a much better perspective than you. It is very common for hospitals to charge self-paying patients far less than they would charge insurance for the same medical care. The reason is simple, nothing stops you from simply traveling back to your country without paying a cent of your bill... so rather than lose out, hospitals charge you a lower amount that they think you can afford - half bread is better than none. Who bears the brunt of the rest of the charges? Hapless US citizens who have to face a 30% or more increase in insurance premiums EVERY YEAR. You pay $7500 to have a kid in the US, that is less than half what many middle class families pay in insurance premiums every year alone.

justwise:
Waste of money and time, you can't sue any embassy just because they refused you a visa.

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

Qei2u:
What then happens with administrative processing
They don’t verify anything..... really
Renember the yoruba lady 4 yrs ago tall slim and a child with cerebral palsy delivered by you or you wanna deny that...... hmmmm
Give it to howard, holycross john hopkins you will never be in their league
If your company is not shady why should one person decide how much they pay a hospital...one pays 5k anoda 10k same contract same service fraud!!!!..makes no sence its not a charity
Ur a dubious company hiding under american law

MamaOO:
Story for the gods! So you’re meaning to tell me there’s no way she can get the procedure done in the entire state of MARYLAND that she has to fly all the way to El Paso, TX? Spend $1000+ on a plane ride to come and do the procedure for $250? Dear lord, make it make sense!!!

You must think you’re conversing with fools the way you blatantly toot your horn on this thread. Smfdh

And just because you bought ads doesn’t give you no right to be obnoxious. And you are being obnoxious to the max! But do I blame you? No.

Qei2u:
@ the dr esparati
Are u saying everyone that used ur hospital successfully renewed their visa??

Everyone here tells u avoid texas n virginia for good reason.

The victims can testify,am not here to attack your company ur not the embassy but i reserve the right to choose a reasonably priced hospital and keep to the terms of my visa,

Circumcission is an elective surgical procedure and they do it in theatre at this hospital not in a drs office hence the price.

Will i go to texas no,i dont have family there and i’d rather pay a high bill and have support than be in the middle of nowhere with nobody of course this may be a waste to some at the end of the day my money my choice my peace of mind

Qei2u:
like i should travel to texas for circumcission
Ok am coming

TripleKMama:
They don't get the drift obviously. No mind dem.
When I posted an offer for shared ATL accommodation to kill boredom, they raptured the post. Twice!
Issorait.

MamaOO:
Yeah the ad has been up there for years. But the blatant advert is just so unnecessary. Imagine someone asking for circumcision in Maryland. Maryland oh! And you’re quoting to give her prices in Texas and not even Houston or Dallas, El Paso! Que??!

So she’s supposed to travel from Maryland to circumcise her son in Texas? This is actually very funny.

TWoods:
Are people allowed to promote their businesses in this manner?

Qei2u:
Pls where can i do circumcission in maryland hospital quoted $4850 for me

iwuoahsamuels:
Hello mums,
Sorry not being following the thread after delivery, trying to bounce back.
Pls what's this update on trump's ban against birth citizenship for mums.
Is there any such thing? Pls can someone refer me to the facts of what happened and what consequences this poses for intending mums traveling to birth and return?
I truly appreciate

Qei2u:
Be careful with maryland hospitals and be in contact with someone that has used them

You can easily end up with a bill of $20k another $14k so ask well.

Some hospitals charge mother n baby room seperately, some charge epidural as dr n nursing fee,some charge c/s and surgron assistant for c/s so ask well o dont assume

Avoid texas esp overflogged hospitals not just gor interview but cbp too

tabso:
Ok thanks Vlesparza.
What do you also think of prepaying all as a proof for financial solvency at the embassy? Is this a good move?

tabso:
Please who has an idea how much the minimum total cost of hospital bill that is reasonable for the visa interview. I got discounted price from doctores para ti - $5450, which I complained about, they however said I should tell them how much I willing to pay. I also contacted Holy Cross
Hospital, Maryland, and the price they gave is $1500 for delivery fee and minimum $5000 for hospital apart from prenatal visit and sonogram fees.

Please are these bill ok to present at the embassy for visa interview?

Thanks

Mandex11:
please is there any one that has birthed in elpaso in the house? please

Antyyve:
Hello everyone. I am new on this site. Please will like to get a b2 visa to give birth in the US but getting a hospital which accept self paid services has not been easy. I guess I need recommendations from the doc to add to my docs. Please any recommendations on how to carry on. Precisely a hospital in Maryland will be best at a moderate prize too. Thanks in advance.

Mamalano:
Good morning, I am planning to give birth in Texas this time around as I used NJ the first time,any experienced mum should please guide me through especially the accommodation stuff and I don't mind sharing an apartment.i planned travelling by August.thanks

Perculiar:
Please house how can I go about getting doctor/hospital correspondence? Guess I will need to as part of my bundle of proof.

Please assist.

MamatwinE:
Good evening every one . Please I need information on giving birth in El paso . Cost and doctor. Thank you .

Please help

Hopesprings:
Thank you SO much for this post! This idea that discounted prices infer some kind of government subsidy is erroneous to say the least! And while the Embassy is well within its rights to highlight any criteria it sees for visa issuance, the truth remains the truth. Prompt pay discounts have absolutely nothing to do with any ones taxes. These hospitals offer these incentives to minimize their billing cycles and the potential losses from having to chase money after service delivery. I wonder why no one challenges the cash pay pricing given by the OB, Anesthesiologist, Pediatrician, even the Labs have discounts for people who pay cash upfront. This is not a foreign concept! Theres no denying that so many Nigerians have taken advantage of programs specifically geared towards the under served in certain communities but this is purely a case of painting with a broad brush.

ugee40:
Hello all please im in need of a doctors appointment letter for visa interview and POE purposes..Can someone kindly help me out??Its kind of urgent plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

nimcote:
Goodmorning everyone, pls I have a question. I have seen on this thread that there are some red flag hospitals/Drs or states. Pls can I use doctores/El-Paso? Plus does any one know any good affordable hopital/ doctor I can use in Dallas, Newyork or LA? I am a first time mom and would really appreciate all the help I can get.

CocoaOla:
Someone should update me on the latest cost and the cheapest state thanks