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demmy: Pray tell what issues are at stake

The 'issues' at stake are simple. Nigerians deserve a transparent process of allocation of oil prospecting licences that protects their interests and those of their unborn children. Nigerians deserve a fair deal. It makes no sense to issue OPL (in an opaque process shrouded in secrecy) to rent seekers (who though Nigerians) have absolutely no interest in developing indigenous capability in oil prospecting. How does that make us better off?

Let's not confuse things. It is fraudulent to imply (as some posters have done) that a request for transparency is in any way an attempt to condone the excesses and criminality of foreign oil majors. You know this.

demmy: Actually any Nigerian can apply for license, lease or contract to prospect for oil offshore. The problem is the typical Nigerian ignorance, they confuse prospecting for oil (oil block) for oil itself. Many Nigerians after having been awarded the oil blocks suddenly realized that they have no idea how, or the finance to bring out oil from deep under water. You can Google to see how much oil rigs cost. Or the technical knowledge needed. My point is its not beans to make money from oil blocks so don't change your career yet.

^^^^Your words sir. Note the bit about how "many Nigerians AFTER HAVING BEEN AWARDED THE OIL BLOCKS SUDDENLY REALIZED THAT THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW, OR THE FINANCE TO BRING OUT OIL FROM DEEP UNDER WATER".

Your words sir.

I ask you: Would you run a one-man business this way?

Would you award a contract to a supplier or sub-contractor who had no clue about how to execute or deliver? Would you knowingly inflate your cost profile by awarding contracts to brokers and rent seekers who add absolutely NO value to your value chain; and whose SOLE 'function' is to re-award the contract (or 'partner' with those who CAN actually do the job?) Would you?

This is no way to run a sole proprietorship, not to talk of a country of over 150 million black Africans. This kind of nonsense costs lives.

Let me take you back a bit. Remember Bi-courtney and the expressway concessioned to it? Bi-courtney 'won' the concession and only then did it start looking for finance to construct the road. Sir, kindly try to count the cost in human lives from the Nigerian government's devilish corruption concerning that road and other critical infrastructure. Where else but Nigeria is business routinely done in this manner?

Do you still hold the strange view that its ok to be buggered as long as its by your own countrymen rather than foreigners? Do you sir?

demmy: Stop these drama please. Its not like if the process were more transparent the likes of you and I would be acquiring oil blocks by ship load. As someone has pointed out earlier you should worry more about the likes of Chagouri, Aswani and the STILL fully german julius berger siphoning your money out.

^^^^Sir, when I read posts like yours, I immediately place the author in one of two groups:


A person who genuinely doesn't know what the issues at stake really are (and who needs clarification and guidance)

OR

A devious, dangerous schemer who knows exactly what he/she is doing on these boards.


The question is: which group do you fall into, sir?

Gideonyte: Thanks VolvoS60! I was begining to think I'm invisible...LOL.

NLders should read that report properly instead of insulting themselves and see the crap going on in this country.

Sadly, Alakija is not the only one in this mess, there are many more! Even the recent sales of oil blocks by Shell has gone to the same cabal again. OIL is the only reason why some people in this country still shout "ONE NIGERIA".

I feel something is coming to reward these people, this evil is just too much. Whatever a man sows is what he reaps.

^^^^Keep up the good work.


Hit them with the facts and put the information out there. If Nigerians choose to ignore it and focus on inanities, that is their problem.


Instead of taking their destiny in their hands and holding their leaders accountable, too many of them keep waiting for miracles and supernatural solutions.


A people programmed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

A topic like this got 6 posts?


Why should I be surprised? How many of us really know what is at stake? This topic touches the core of what it means to be a citizen in a functional democracy - the citizen's right to know!!!! We can see in black and white the legal obstacles being thrown in the way of anyone who wishes to exercise his/her 'right to know' through the FOI Act. Is it not clear that the interests of ordinary Nigerians and those of the PDP-led executive/legislature ARE mutually exclusive?

Oh the irony of it. As things stand, it is NOT possible for ANY (and all) Nigerian citizens who wish to inspect the assets of public officers (declared to the CCB) TO DO SO.

Is this democratic? Is this equitable, fair or just?

I am yet to see any posts on this topic by the "i love Nigeria" brigade or the "God will do it for Nigeria" brigade. No. Topics like these are beyond their understanding. These pseudo-nationalists cannot see the link between GEJ's "I don't give a damn" comment (or OBJ's refusal to sign the FOI bill on some spurious "national security" grounds) and the systemic corruption in Nigeria today.

Nigerians. Hold your damn leaders accountable!!!

Very surprising that no one thought it necessary to reference Gideonyte's post. Very surprising.


The answers are there.


P.S. - the reasons why Nigeria is a @#%&$! can be found on this thread. Some Nigerians are asking perfectly legitimate questions as to how a former seamstress (not that there's anything wrong with being a seamstress, by the way) got an oil prospecting licence through notoriously opaque processes under one of Nigeria's most corrupt governments. Some other creatures are muddying the waters with tall tales about how glorious the woman's ethnic stock is, or how beautiful and glamorous she is (or used to be, or whatever).

The true story about allocation of oil prospecting licences in Nigeria will be told in full someday, with dire consequences for those who cheaply traded away or mortgaged the lives of generations yet to be born.

We wait till that day comes. And come it surely will.

Good job "Gen Buhari" (mai gaskiya ) for reminding the OBJ hagiographers on NL that not all of us are children. Of late, too many posters have taken it upon themselves to engage in the worst kind of revisionism. These hacks have forgotten that the records are available and will be there forever.

OBJ's administration failed, full stop. It is deceitful to criticize the GEJ administration for its failings (and they are many) while claiming OBJ's government put in a stellar performance. We know the truth.

Keep up the good work. You must continue to challenge those on NL who want to whitewash a sepulchre full of dead mens bones.

Ajengogo: In as much as d colonel's act is condemnable and detestable, I still blame d girl for going into a stranger's house all alone for what nonsense errand. It is said that when handshake gets beyond d elbow, you should then be on your toes. What kind of errand will make a girl follow a stranger right into his living room Just my thinking sha

^^^^Total nonsense.

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You obvioudly are too young to know anything about Obasanjo.

Right from 1965, he has always not had this ethnic and religious sentiments we face today. He has always been fair in his judgement. No other ruler since 1999 can boast of having a majority northern dominated cabinet like Obasanjo.

Also the North will always trust Obasanjo than any other Eastern, southern or western person or why do you think they nominated him in 1999 to be president.

He is not a TRAITOR like Jonathan

^^^^Stop the revisionism.

OBJ was in charge when a state legislature passed a bill legislating Islamic religious law as the supreme law in one state in northwestern Nigeria. The domino effect led to at least 12 other states adopting the same law - a direct challenge to the authority and legitimacy of the federal government. What did OBJ do? He did nothing. Yet the same OBJ administration authorized a military invasion of a Nigerian community (for the alleged killing of 9 Nigerian soldiers), leading to the deaths of scores of elderly and infirm villagers. Where is the 'fairness' in his judgement there?

acidtalk: This man is certainly one of Nigeria's untribalistic, unbiased and nonreligious bigot to ever ever come out of Nigeria.

The Yorubas don't know what they have in this man until he will be no more.


Can people also see that Obasanjo even while out of power has more relevance and support than the idi*ot in Aso rock. Even his former enemies (Sanusi, Atiku and kwankwaso) are all part of this gesture.

Let Jonathan try such out of office and see if even the CAN president he gave a jet to will turn up not to talk of the chicken and goats roaming the streets of Otueke.

^^^^This must stop. There is a disturbing trend on NL now with too many posters trying to rewrite history.

OBJ was a failure, full stop. The few things his government got right will never outweigh the many things his administration did wrong. We are not children. The records are there - the fraud, corruption and incompetence of the OBJ administration matches that of GEJ's. No doubt there. No contest either.

If GEJ is an idioot as you say, then what is OBJ?

Almost 9 pages of denial.

mosun_ade: Very empty. Sense of outrage? At who? Retribution for the failure of Bi Courtney - ok, to sentence them to death or what? They failed a contract, and contract cancelled, now you want them sentenced to death or what? This was a PPP arrangement, what resources were spent by government? You obviously thought government gave them some huge sum of money or you dont understand the terms of a PPP? Please tell us what resources you are talking about.

I think you are making effort to be seen as a critic, but you end up writing too much English that you didnt even make a single point.

^^^^You do not have a clear understanding of the key issues at stake on this matter. I do not blame you for that - your posting history shows you are more at home with cerebral topics such as "kindly define what a good fukc is" or "gw bush smacks an olympic booty".

I maintain my position that Nigerian taxpayers DESERVE more. Whether they will demand more is another matter entirely. Has Bicourtney been blacklisted from future contracts? These, sir/madam, are the issues. This is the 'retribution' I referred to.

I have posted in several threads on these boards about bicourtney's failure to deliver. Some of those threads are over 12 months old - I am fully aware that the contract was a PPP arrangement - if you open your blinkers and read, you will notice I referred to bicourtney as the concessionaire. I am also fully aware that there was no capital outlay by the government under the terms of the agreement. What people like you fail to realize is that there is an opportunity cost to the choice of Bicourtney as the concessionaire - would taxpayers not be better off if a competent concessionaire had been chosen and this concessionaire had delivered on the project? Would we still be at the point we are now? Go ponder on this.

And in case you do not know sir/madam, the FGN had a team of engineers, bureaucrats, legal advisers and financial advisers to craft the damned agreement with Bicourtney. Did these 'professionals' offer their services free of charge? My taxes paid for their services sir! These are the some of the resources I referred to in my previous post. But also remember sir/madam, that one human life lost on that road as a result of Bicourtney's ineptitude is worth more than all the money paid to these 'professionals'. You can't put a price on that.

We are now getting ominous signs that Bicourtney may consider litigation following the cancellation of the contract - I hope to God that the PPP agreement was properly crafted and is indeed watertight or else it will be double jeopardy for Nigerian taxpayers. Imagine the sheer gall of it - Bicourtney failed to build the road and in the end taxpayers (through the FGN) will have to compensate it for 'breach of contract' or some other nonsense like that?


Next time before you come out with guns blazing, educate yourself sir/madam. There is still hope and time for you.

This thread shows how Nigerians have come to accomodate and embrace failure.

For years, Nigerians have been maimed and killed in their thousands on this expressway through wilful sabotage and sheer negligence. No doubt this will continue.

We are a people with no standards or sense of self. No real sense of our rights, duties or obligations. Shameful. Some of us really do not deserve to live as free men and women. That is the TRUTH.

How can Nigerians (excluding the hirelings of the federal government assigned to "work" on NL) put their fingers to their keyboards and praise the GEJ administration for "doing well" in cancelling the concession after all these years and the needless waste of human lives and material resources?

Where is your sense of outrage?

In some countries a consumer can buy a box of cereal and he/she is entitled to a full refund or a replacement if there is any defect in the original purchase - no questions asked. Such countries take contractual obligations seriously, in both the private and public sector. In THIS country, a PDP-led federal government (ostensibly acting on behalf of taxpayers) enters into an opaque agreement with an incompetent concessionaire to fix a public road. Years after the agreement, Nigerians do NOT have a road and have received absolutely NO value for the resources committed on their behalf by their so-called government.

If you are a taxpayer, I ask you:

Where is your recourse?
Where is your compensation?
What are the consequences for the concessionaire?

The GEJ administration, in its characteristically dubious manner has not indicated (however obliquely) that there will be any form of retribution for the failure of Bi-Courtney to deliver. And yet posters on this thread have been fulsome in their praise.

The hex of low expectations.

You indeed get what you pay for.

solbil: those points ave beeen countered already unless you are the one whos not seeing it due to the fact that your fraustration over nothing has blinded you to true and sound analysis.

I was going to gwagwalada campus from uniabuja permanent site after reading what people said about kits. I took my time to notice the kits the guys were puting on and there is absolutly nothing wrong with it! There is absolutely no difference between what the put on and what we see american soldiers put on in afghanistan. Absolutely no difference.

^^^^
Just saw your post...

My "fraustration has blinded me to true and sound analysis?"

Take a look at what you typed up there, son. Re-read it carefully. You have suddenly become an authority on the military and international geopolitics because in your own words, you took a trip from Gwagwalada campus to Uniabuja permanent site and saw Nigerian soldiers wearing the same kit American troops are wearing in Afghanistan?

Really?

A pity you did not have anything to say about the kit of soldiers actually on the ground in Mali. Get that information and report back. THEN we can talk.

1025: if there is any slowpok here, it is u and whatever u represent.
at least in somalia, congo and rwanda, every citizen is feeling the pains. let us go down the same time. i will die a sad man if nigeria will continue to be the property of a few criminals. we are all nigerians and deserve better treatments.
i am hearing of this guy for the first time but what he just said is the mind of many suffering nigerians.
for the sss, they will soon have a lot of arrests to make. it will get to a stage where the sss will find a hiding place for their heads.
jonathan cannot afford to treat nigerians like animals while himself and his friends share our public funds.
revolution is the only way forward and the time is now.
we must die today to live tomorrow.
a president that says he is not a general to boko haram and goes after peaceful protesters with soldiers will end up killing us with his tanks.
we are sure to die but will not die without voicing out our angers.
we knew how powerful saddam was and we could feel the heat of gaddafi yet they went down like christmas fowls. yesterday, gbagbo was the toast of power drunk men but today, we can say better. jonathan is a made up mind and we have to resist him.
sss will have a lot of arrests to make very soon i mean sooner than we think.

^^^^ I don't know you 1025, but i have followed your posts (and those of a few others for quite a while). I may even have referred to your posts a couple of times on other threads. I don't know cheddarking either. But i think I understand what he's trying to say.

Just like you and others, I am very frustrated and sad with what Nigeria has turned into. In the last 3 general elections (03, 07 and 11) I did what I could to educate those around me on the importance of making the right voting choices (not just at the federal level but at the state and LG levels). My efforts came to nothing because the truth is that too many Nigerians do not have a sense of self. They do not know WHO they are. They have very low expectations (of themselves and of their leaders) and do NOT clearly understand or appreciate the power and beauty of the concepts of citizenship and the social contract. Those low expectations then become self-fulfilling prophecies and the outcome is the broken nation-state we have today. It was not always like this - those who were around in the latter part of the first half of the last century will confirm that Nigeria WAS a better place then, despite some very serious problems. However, I will not go into how and why things deteriorated to this point. That indeed, is a matter for some other day.

Cheddarking is thinking like a chess player and (in most of his posts on this thread) has outlined the likely path we will travel down if there is a "revolution" (in the sense in which most of us have described it). He has listed all the fault lines (ethnicity, religion, social class) which will turn into deep fissures when the 'revolution' (as we have defined it) comes. If the scenario he has painted actually comes to pass (and it IS a very distinct possibility), then we will all come to understand firsthand that indeed in the end, every revolution truly devours its own.

Unfortunately, there are no easy answers. The failure of the GEJ administration (and the others before it - UMYA, OBJ) should not be surprising to anyone familiar with the history of 3rd world countries with weak institutions and zero accountability. Sadly, Nigerians are stuck with it until the next elections in 2015 - assuming this country hasn't imploded by then. We shall see then if Nigerians have indeed learnt their lessons and if they fully understand that choices (choices in general and voting choices in particular) matter and DO have consequences. But revolution in the Nigeria of today? Forget it. The things needed for a successful revolution (which will leave Nigerians better off post-revolution) are simply not there - if we tread the 'revolution' path today, we will simply end up as another African disaster, beset by war and all the other demons it begets.

P.S. - The only solution is for those of us who know the truth to get even more involved. We have all debated Nigeria's problems and issues on these boards for years. The hard truth is that internet messageboards (useful though they may be) serve a small minority of Nigerians. We need to get out there, join political parties whose ideals we share and sell the candidates of our choice. That is the only way, otherwise the ruling party will steamroll its way to an undeserved victory yet again because of our inertia.

We have been warned.

mrrock: I' am terrified by comments on this thread. Really, there's no hope for this country.

No kidding.

nagoma: Nigerians will not heed an advice. Go on continue playing the ostrich. They are telling you that corruption has eaten up your fighting force and some analysis was provided. But all you can do is to shout blue murder. Why can't you produce a counter analysis to show how the ever increasing military and security budget has improved the armed forces' capability and effectiveness?

^^^^Good point. I notice no one has really countered the points made in the OP's second post. Are those points valid or not?

Some posters here have become very defensive about the newsreport. I can assure them that the same things said in the newsreport about Nigerian troops have been said about the british army & the US army for years - these major shortcomings (low morale, lack of kit and indiscipline) were brought into sharp relief in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The press in the US and the UK did not hide these things - a web search will confirm this.

This is not the time for false nationalism. If there is no merit in the newsreport,then ignore it. If there is, act on it. That's what serious people do.

Of course its getting worse.

That is the only logical outcome when you have an overrated, corrupt Fashola administration/LASG which is very poor at curbing the excesses of its irredeemably corrupt traffic management officials.

As I write this, work has ceased on the "perpetually under construction" black hole that is the lekki-epe expressway. This is an "ëxpressway" that already has one operational toll point with another two set to follow, yet LCC, Hitech Construction Company and all the other actors in this macabre drama have simply gone to sleep and left the road (from just after Oando filling station onwards) to "lie fallow".

And mr fashola's hagiographers have the nerve to say lagos is working (whatever that means?)

I spent some time yesterday at Iponri where VIO and LASTMA officials hold court. I saw things there which left me speechless. Until that group is sorted out, traffic in this broken city WILL definitely get worse. But I know I am asking for too much.

'Eko oni baje' indeed.

Sept12: This will be my last post both under this pseudonym and on this topic.

I have been here on Nairaland for about 6-7 years. I relied on Nairaland a whole lot when i was based outside Nigeria and planning my relocation. I remember the exodus to 'that other forum' when Seun Osewa became totalitarian. I come here less now and i see less of the early people commenting as well.

Goodbye.

^^^^Can't argue with some of your comments up there. Nairaland is a shadow of what it once was - it was once cutting edge with sharp, conscious, smart young people - but its now in the same league as "naijapals", etc. It will be interesting to see what it'll look like 7 years from now.

^^^^OP,

As someone said, your story does read like a movie script. Very sad to read about the four men killed and the girl who was violated.

You are spot-on in your reasons for them dragging you along after they took your car. It could have gone very wrong for you (as if that could be possible!) in the sense that they could have met the police on the way with you in the car and you could have been shot. These things happen all the time - cars are snatched with the owner forced along for the ride, there's a shootout with the police and the car owner dies or is maimed in the crossfire.

With the scale of the violence, I'm surprised I didn't hear about this incident before now - I'm a bit familiar with that axis. I guess you would rather not disclose the estate where your friend lives - can't blame you for that. The part about the hammer just left me speechless.

Armed robbery in Nigeria can be the most hellish experience. We are in very serious trouble. All the guns that came in during the 2011 election and those which have come in since then are being deployed to maximum effect. Unfortunately, its every man for himself.

What a thread.

The OP (conqueror of the british empire aka Field Marshall E. D. I. Mean) has opened a tank of worms here.

If there is one thing this thread has done it is that it has forced some (if not all) of us to examine some of our inner dragons and demons. Some of us are finding it incredibly hard to believe that it actually is possible to view the human body in a genuinely non-sexual way. It is very hard, perhaps even inconceivable (after several years of victorian era-style indoctrination and conditioning) for some of us to realize that some people inhabit a parallel universe in which the human body (in all its nakked glory) is NOT a thing of shame or guilt. Not surprisingly, the affronted and aggrieved on this thread feel that this is a Pandora's box which must remain closed even if all 150 million of us have to sit on its lid. In their view, the OP is pushing an idea that is capable of destroying civilization and the human race as we know it.

My personal experience in this matter is limited. In the strange world in which I grew up, even the domestic animals and house pets had their own hand-made clothing to cover their unclothedness (chew on that, Field Marshall Amin Dada) . I'll be watching this thread with keen interest. Perhaps it contains my only hope for freedom.

LocalChamp: Yuletide: Jonathan orders rehabilitation of bad roads
On October 31, 2012 · In News 5:12 pm 0

President Goodluck Jonathan on Wednesday directed the Ministry of Works to carry out immediate rehabilitation of all the dilapidated road infrastructure nationwide before the yuletide season.

Speaking in the same vein, the Minister of Works, Mr. Mike Onolememen, said the Council approved a special programme for prompt rehabilitation of all roads damaged by floods.

“So in the next couple of weeks, we are going to be witnessing a massive roll-out on most sections of federal highways across the country consequent on this approval.

^^^^ The more things change the more they remain the same.

The Works Minister, like all the other philistines that Nigerian governments routinely appoint as scribes, is in love with the word "massive".

"Massive roll-out. Massive rehabilitation. Massive renovation. Massive recruitment. Massive production. Massive mobilization". And so on.

Sound and fury signifying nothing.

I guess we should prepare for more ceremonies to mark the successful completion of pothole filling and bush clearing exercises on federal roads.

Mediocre men.

Sisi_Kill: Yawn, Yawn, Yawn??!

Too long??

Boring??

Beefing the Government??

Comparing out of the country location of servers to officials, whose responsibility it is to give us adequate facilities, flying out of the country to get BETTER TREATMENT.

. . . . These are comments from real people on an article like this??!!

Now we know why the Government does not care about its people. Why bother when they don't care about themselves?

^^^Very depressing.

Young people with the power that only youth can bring, immense power to change things - being told the awful truth and yet they complain that the truth is too long, too boring etc.

They have been fooled with reality TV, European league football and brain-deadening 'pop culture'. The outcome? Low attention spans and a preoccupation with fluff and nonsense.

They are paying for, and will continue to pay (even unto death) for the mistakes of their fathers. Just like their children will pay for theirs.

A triad of feckless, wasted generations.

Basic: Okey, find something else to post, please!
Yar'Adua was hospitalised in S.Arabia. How has that made Saudi a part of Nigeria?
Every year Nigerians troop out in thousands to the US and UK. Yet, you didn't call those ones "Nigeria's satellites."
Now, you're making reference to Germany simply because Nigerians are going there on health grounds (I'm not saying this is normal anyway - lest some shallow thinkers take this up). And at the end of your story, you cited less than 5 examples (when I thought you've got thousands of them, going by your topic).
Sit down and read the piece again. I'm sure something will tell you this from within: "Did I really write this? What came over me? Oh, this probably must have been due to joblessness. Let me get something doing!"
I'm not saying you've written BS, but other countries fit in your satire better than Germany. So, you got it wrong there!

^^Sir, you need to take another look at what you wrote up there. At first I thought your post was a satire too, (with Okey's article as the target), but its clear it is not.

Okey Ndibe, Sonala Oluhmense and others who write like them are definitely not perfect. But they get it right more than they get it wrong and they have fought long and hard (through their pieces) to have a country that works. Your criticism of Okey Ndibe's article is very surprising.

You need to show where you stand.

There is a lot deeply wrong with us.

A man steals a goat. He is stripped naked, possibly beaten within an inch of his life. If he's lucky he'll live to be charged with theft, spend 15 years in prison awaiting trial and then end up being sentenced to death for armed robbery.

Another man steals the monetary equivalent of 100 trillion goats. He becomes a god and decides the fate of millions of his countrymen because of the high office he is elected to - by the same people who would gladly kill a man because he stole a goat.

We will never, ever make it unless we change the way we think and do things. Never.

taharqa: The FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) flows to the country is not only by far d highest in d history of Nigeria but also significantly d highest in Africa( i think for the 1st time if am not mistaken) last yr at almost $9billion. From what I gather from sm reports recently, this thread wud continue this yr. Many of these business deals are struck, consumatd or reviewd at d highest levels during these Presidential visits( that is probably why he goes on these visit wit sm Nigerian businessmen and relevant ministers and heads of agencies). The many bi-national commissions set-up and/or revivd by dis admin( which is d highest so far) might also be relevant here

^^^^Provide incontrovertible evidence that the so-called FDI inflows were the outcomes of "presidential visits", as you claim. It is not enough for you to say "many of these business deals are struck, consumatd or reviewed. . . etc". Generalizations such as these will not do.

Establish a clear causal link between FDI inflows and these trips for you to be taken seriously. I am waiting.

What goes around comes around. Those gloating at JTF's brutality should never forget this.


According to the newsreport, some of those shot by JTF soldiers were killed on the street leading to the Maiduguri University Teaching Hospital. The chances are they were patients, friends/relatives of patients or just ordinary Nigerians going about the ordinary business of life. THESE PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE TO DIE. TO EXPLAIN AWAY THEIR DEATHS AS 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' IS UNACCEPTABLE.


The Nigerian army has traditionally had a knee-jerk response to every stimulus. The killings in Maiduguri prove this.


We will see how the story ends.

Law prince: ALHAJI ABDUL LATEEF ADEGBITE CON, PH.D

* Adegbite was a staunch advocate of the implementation of Shariah Law for Muslims in Nigeria. He once said: "Muslims have no other constitution and law apart from what Sharia had laid down. Sharia as a divine law supersedes all other civil and moral laws",

^^^^It is very troubling that Alhaji Adegbite held the above view even though he was a citizen in a federal republic and not an Islamic theocracy. You can't have it both ways - you are either in or out. You cannot claim to be a Nigerian citizen, enjoy all the rights and privileges that come with your status and then refuse to fulfil your obligations to your country (on the grounds of a clash between your faith-based law and your country's constitutional law). The bitter irony is that Alhaji Adegbite was a legal scholar.

As I said in another thread, I expected much more from him.

Funny thread.

It is true that learning how to drive with a manual transmission (MT) increases your range of options later on. You can switch to an auto transmission (AT) without any problems. Those who learn with ATs on the other hand cannot switch at will. Its a bit like engineering graduates who can move over to work in high finance without any issues, while finance graduates cannot even contemplate moving into engineering practice (without starting from scratch).


Manual transmissions also make for real driver involvement, that much i agree. But when you factor in real world conditions, that's where the joy ends. I doubt if anyone would still be in love with manual transmissions after constantly shifting gears for up to 4 hours in slow moving, bumper to bumper traffic (the kind you find in Abuja and Lagos). I used a manual transmission in lagos' awful traffic for years until I found out one of my legs was getting shorter than the other.


I got an auto transmission and I have never looked back.

We are heading towards the ninth circle of hell.


No one even knows who or what to believe anymore.


So who did this? Nigerian students did this to other Nigerian students? Really? Over 20 souls gone because of a student union election?


Or was it Boko Haram?


The posters exchanging insults on this thread are a distraction. You are muddying the waters with your insults. We need to get to the bottom of this and find out who is responsible.


That's what we have a government for.


We are watching.

domack99: The issue their is that Standard Organization of Nigeria (SON) are not working. ow can a tokumbo part be better than a brand new, this can't happen in a country where their regulatory body is working. Most importers of parts in Nigeria go to China and demand a very low quality, quality which are not acceptable in most countries not even in china itself.

^^^^Thank you.

This is the real issue.

Nigeria is a country without standards. Anyone remember the controversy surrounding Geely automobiles?