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BusinessRe: Gigantic Equipment Being Brought In For Dangote's Refinery In Lagos (Photos) by Walphem(m): 1:38am On Aug 20, 2017
classicfrank4u:
wen i saw gigantic i was expecting to see smtin bigger dan a house smiley
My brother those stuff are big.i saw them this morning and i suspected it was for Dangote,but what i dont understand is how those stuff passes through beneath the flyovers or sign posts in lagos
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Coke Is Made With 'borehole Water' — Rep. Kazaure by Walphem(m): 8:21am On Mar 23, 2017
This guy isn't fit to be a councilor, the level,of his argument is way to shallow; we all agree that NAFDAC and SON are compromised, but don't say that as a kindergarten student, speak like someone with facts and figures.

Definitely, this chamber will be boring,
Car TalkRe: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by Walphem(m): 12:07am On Mar 02, 2017
The thread your responded to as been vague was absolutely more in depth than yours. He gave facts, while you argued on emotions. As RIM where are they today? Also where is NOKIA today? If you don't take the right steps at the right time, one will just be part of evolution.

Innosson can not thrive with its current business model.
PoliticsRe: Atiku: "My Secondary School Students Better Than Public Universities Students" by Walphem(m): 9:16am On Nov 19, 2016
This is height of disrespect and insult, this same guy is been clamoured by some quarters to lead the country. Can you tell me one invention his students/graduates have put in place. He is among the people that caused the state of Public institution and yet still throwing shades..How did he lead Customs? This guy needs a brain check
PoliticsRe: Oshiomhole To Get N200m House From Edo Govt by Walphem(m): 5:33pm On Nov 16, 2016
Democracy is just too expensive, looking at this...it Will..rough estimate per year to manage Oshiomole will be over 500million, Odubu over 300million yearly. Imagine this with 36 states ex governors etc..And we have millions of people leaving below 1.2dollars daily.SMH...walking out of Thread
AgricultureRe: Cocoa Farmers Make More Money On Weaker Naira by Walphem(m): 10:30pm On Nov 12, 2016
Is there a specific reason this topic keep dragging on the front page since over 5 days?
PoliticsRe: Audu Ogbeh, Emefiele Inspect Rice Farms In Jigawa by Walphem(m): 8:25pm On Nov 11, 2016
You guys should put the rice into the market...let everyone see and buy.
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 9:00pm On Nov 03, 2016
oneolajire:
I have sent the stuff to various national daily like Punch, Vanguard, Guardian etc, but they've all refused to publish it
That is quite thoughtful of you sir..but what exactly is the reason they gave for not publishing?
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 4:26pm On Oct 30, 2016
SAINTHUD:
Recent events in the Church have generated
social fervor about the lifestyles of men of
the robe and the governance structure of the
Church in Nigeria, in particular the
Pentecostal hue. This is as expected because
the funding profile of the Church is
primarily derived from contributions from
congregants. There is a lot of angst out there
because Nigerians are experiencing economic
hardship. This provides some of the
context for the public backlash. However we
risk throwing out the baby with the
bathwater if our passion becomes a raging
flood that sweeps away reason and
structural facts.
Are there excesses in the church? No doubt.
The eco-system is imperfect for the simple
reason that Pastors are men afterall. And the
operations of some snake oil merchants
have only served to compound issues. There
are now magicians in robes, economic
opportunists in cassocks, ecclesiastical
predators in surplices and charlatans in
collars.
But there are also genuine men of God and
ministries, thousands upon thousands of
them.
The spectrum of the Church in Nigeria
consists of orthodox churches, evangelicals,
pentecostal institutional and pentecostal
independents. Methodist Church is orthodox,
ECWA is evangelical, the Redeemed Christian
Church of God, Deeper Life Bible
Church and the Assemblies of God are
pentecostal institutional, whilst Daystar
Christian Centre is a pentecostal independent.
The Orthodox Church establishment laid the
foundation for modern Nigeria. They are
the offshoots of missionary work. They
educated the people we now refer to as the
founding fathers of the federation. They
established the first set of hospitals and
schools in Nigeria. Methodist Boys’ High
School, Baptist Academy and Our Lady of
Apostles Grammar School are well known
examples of schools established by
missionaries.
It was the Church that educated the first set
of civil servants in Nigeria. And the Church
has always been at the nexus of cultural re-
orientation in Nigeria. Who can ever forget
the work of Mary Slessor, the diminutive
nurse who fought against the barbaric culture
of the killing of twins? And so when we chant
about the “labour of our heroes past,” we
must not forget that some of these heroes
are the missionaries and the orthodox
establishments.
Now we do not know why but clearly, God
raised a generational stream of young men
and women to build on the foundational work
of the orthodox churches. The work
began with the establishment of the Scripture
Union (S.U or C.U – Christian Union) in
primary and secondary schools. From that
movement emerged the generation of those
who now head the Pentecostal institutional
churches today, in particular the
unassuming Pastor Enoch Adeboye and the
self effacing Pastor William F. Kumuyi.
Incidentally both attended The Apostolic Faith
before fate directed their trajectories.
Both are very well educated. Pastor Adeboye
has a PhD in Applied Mathematics whilst
Pastor Kumuyi has a first class honours
degree in Mathematics. At the time of their
ascendance, the “faith movement” was taking
root in America and this spawned the
ministries of the late Archbishop Benson
Idahosa, Bishop David Oyedepo and Pastor
Ayo Oritsejafor. We must also note the great
work of a little known Englishman who
settled in Ile Ife, the late Pa Elton. He would
be responsible for the mentoring of the next
ministerial generation and the establishment
of Pentecostal doctrine in Nigeria.
However something major took place in the
early 80s. A then unknown medical student
at the University of Lagos was ordained a
Pastor by the Assemblies of God Church.
This was an extremely radical event 30 years
ago. His name is Dr. Tunde Joda of the
Christ Chapel fame. He was a product and
proponent of the Faith Movement and was
highly influenced by the ministries of Rev.
Kenneth E. Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. He
opened the door for his generation and made
God exciting to young people. That was
a generational advent and invariably
members of that generation became Pastors.
Because of the educational background of the
generation, the Pentecostal movement
acquired sophistication. The emergent
Pastors are generally creative in approach,
aggressive, uninhibited and resourceful. Many
emerged through the “model parish”
structure of the Redeemed Christian Church
of God. Dr. Tony Rapu would prove pivotal
to that structure though there is evidence to
the effect that Pastor Tunde Bakare was
perhaps the first model parish Pastor. That
was before he went on to found the Latter
Rain Assembly.
Some in that generation are now in full time
ministry but many maintain a dualism – they
work as professional managers and
entrepreneurs whilst running the churches on
a full
term basis. (Some are in government). And so
we arrived at a literal prophetic era in
Nigeria church history – the era of the order
of priest-kings technically known as the
Order of Melchizedek. All Christians belong to
this Order but these young Pastors in
dual callings typify the Order. Most are
successful in their secular callings and it
would
be uncharitable to assume that they went into
ministry for money. Most do not collect
salaries from their churches. Instead they
contribute. These emergent Pastors signified
a generational move of God. The generation is
noted for “speaking in tongues” – a
peculiar glossolalia dating back to Pentecost.
They are thus referred to as
“Pentecostals”. (In modern parlance, the term
“Pentecostal” has come to signify
exuberant loud worship and gifted oratory).
They redefined what a man of God is and
till today, the redefinition presents a
challenge to society. So aggressive are
members
of this Pentecostal movement that in a
strange twist of fate, they exported
Christianity
back to the UK. And they have established
churches in Ukraine, Ireland, America and
more.
Nigeria as a nation has no social security
system. The absence of social net is why
individuals take care of the economic needs
of their parents in old age. This familial
approach to social security leaves huge
swaths of needy citizens unattended to. Into
this void has stepped the Church. The Church
complements the efforts of some State
governments who clearly cannot cope with
the deluge of developmental challenges
facing Nigeria. And the Pentecostal generation
has acquitted itself wonderfully at this
task.
Let’s be more particular. Pastor Taiwo
Odukoya, a man of grace runs The Fountain
of
Life Church. It has a hospital, an orphanage, a
school for the indigent and orphans and
a vocational farm. Pastor Ituah Ighodalo, the
founder of Trinity House supports indigent
students with scholarships. His Lydia Grace
Foundation supports the rehabilitation of
lower class prostitutes, among so many other
initiatives. Pastor Tony Rapu, the Pastor
of This Present House runs one of the most
successful drug rehabilitation programmes
through the Freedom Foundation network.
Pastor Poju Oyemade organises a hugely
successful bi-annual youth empowerment
seminar called The Platform.
Rev. Sam Adeyemi, a gentleman of the robe
runs Daystar Christian Centre. His Church
has a community impact programme and has
renovated 5 State schools, among so
many other programmes. He is particularly
noted for leadership training. Pastor Paul
Adefarasin of the House on the Rock Church
hosts an annual cultural impact
programme called The Experience. It is a
major engagement platform for youths
through music. The City of David, a Redeemed
Church parish runs a most successful
soccer academy and acclaimed football club,
COD United FC. These are just a few
examples of what these particular ministries
are engaged in and space will not permit
us to name the works of so many other
ministries. Many church ministries run
schools,
hospitals, orphanages, sex worker
rehabilitation programmes, drug
rehabilitation
programmes, community development
programmes and youth development
programmes. By the time we scale up to the
network of Redeemed Christian Church of
God and the like, the exponential value of
Church ministries becomes staggering in
proportion. The Catholic Church is
responsible for the establishment of a post
graduate
university, the Pan African University. That
university has taken up a major responsibility
for skill development in the private sector.
The Church also founded Loyola Jesuit
Secondary School. Even the much maligned
Bishop David Oyedepo founded two
universities! No other Nigerian, living or dead
has accomplished such feat as far as we
know. Invariably almost every church has
bent its back to carry the burden of the State
and it’s a huge burden.
A wholesale condemnation of the Church is
not helpful. The Church through its
programs saves Nigeria from the
consequences of its dereliction in governance.
Perhaps there is a need for a compendium of
the good works by churches that is
accessible to the general public. The Church
essentially aggregates resources to
create a social security net for Nigeria.
Otherwise we will have more drug addicts,
prostitutes, orphans, hapless widows and
certainly more crime. We will also have less
kids in school, less young men acquiring trade
skills, less micro-financing of small
businesses, and less value orientation and
instruction for our youths.
At the heart of the ongoing debate is the
nature of church economics. Why do people
give to churches in such huge figures? Why
would a Pastor take money from the poor?
To the man looking from the outside those
giving ten percent of their salaries are either
gullible or hypnotized. But the notion of giving
is a fundamental of the Christian faith.
Jesus said, “Give and it shall be given unto
you”. Apostle Paul wrote, “He who sows
sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who
sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.
So let each one give as he purposes in his
heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for
God loves a cheerful giver. (2 Cor 9: 6 – 7).
Giving in Christianity is predicated on the
principle of sowing and reaping. And giving is
a socio-economic ladder according to
Christian doctrine. It is also proof of love for
God. It is within this context that we can
understand why the poor give to churches.
The poor man’s faith teaches him to give his
way out of poverty, though we must admit
that the role of industry is sometimes
neglected in teachings. There are perversions
of the doctrine of giving but that does not
make the doctrine any less fundamental.
Now, unlike some religions, Christianity runs
an economic commonwealth when it
comes to institutional development and
building programs. Everyone contributes to
the
commonwealth. And the value of a gift before
God is relative to deprivation. That would
seem heartless to the outsider and some will
consider it exploitative, but the story of
Elijah and the widow of Zarephath is a
wonderful illustration of the dynamics of
giving to
a man of God (or church ministry) in an
economic downturn. And the parable of the
widow’s mite establishes the principle of
relative deprivation as a measure of value.
That said, it must be mentioned that the
Church has oft times operated with a silo
mentality. There has to be better engagement
between the Church and civil society. In
addition, a peer-to-peer review system must
be instituted. If the Pastors judge
themselves they will escape condemnation.
Some advocate state interference in
religious affairs. Regulating the Church
sounds okay in theory but it can prove a very
dangerous idea in a tri-religious society like
Nigeria. Not with all the goings on. And we
may have a peculiar situation of a man of
different faith sitting in judgment over
Christian economics without doctrinal
understanding and vice versa. We must not
rush
us into dangerous territory. As we shall soon
discover, this obviously targeted
regulation will create inconsistencies and
challenges as we seek to apply it across all
religious boards. But the Church has to
recognize that society has significantly
altered,
and for many Nigerians it is the one true
institution.
This is my humble contribution to the ongoing
debate.
What a piece...I agree with the part of properly getting a compendium of what churches have done and still doing, however we need a real paradigm shift into the real basic problems along side the CSR projects they are involved in
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 4:07pm On Oct 30, 2016
oneolajire:
I wrote this in July. Also made this thread on Nairaland. This is long overdue.

Titled "time for religious organisations to invest in agriculture"

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/07/19/time-for-religious-organisations-to-invest-in-agriculture/

Kudos to OP
Great piece...our minds reasoned along the same line
...how can we push this? I really don't want us to just "rant" in the internet...but to forge and solve this persistent issue in the country
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 3:25pm On Oct 30, 2016
Ramon92:
Tell them to pay taxes..
It is not just about taxes...i am sure you pay tax, Are you ok with what past and present leaders have used your taxes? We need much more than just paying taxes to enrich s one folks
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 3:06pm On Oct 30, 2016
Greatzeus:
Good write up,God bless you.
But if churches should do as you said and invest in Agriculture, it is these same Nigerians and mostly Christians that will say they are business men not true men of God. Some will even want the Agricultural products to be distributed free,the way they are clamouring for church schools to be free.
Very spot on...however Jesus Christ wasn't disturbed about the Pharisees..But did what His father sent him to do...
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 3:00pm On Oct 30, 2016
soulpeppersoup:
What stop mosques or traditional religion from doing what you saying but it be the church or don't they have members?
As I rightly said I am a Christian, and a Nigerian, someone else from the Muslim side or traditionalist can also champion this
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 2:59pm On Oct 30, 2016
Johncuppa:
You won't believe I've shed tears on this. I thought it was just my own opinion and may be I was wrong.
Now that I saw this, I am relieved. May be God is putting this yearning in us when He is ready to fill the ditches.
However, don't always think God must use the entire body of Christ. May be you and I are even the interest of God. God is capable of saving a nation with just a man.
May God gives us #thjosephs, #thedaniels, #thenehemiahs , #theesthers IJN
Sir or ma, can we meet? Is it possible for you to send a PM To me, I am a "nobody" but someone that has fire for God and humanity
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 12:18pm On Oct 30, 2016
pring:
All we get is the opposite.
Do u know that government issues pastors license to preach the word of God?
As in a certificate?
If u kn this, u will not expect anything good from churches.
They are the same, When last did u hear a pastor say bad about a government?
Has VP pastor Osibanjo contributed anything meaningful since he came in?
For me,
Religion is an arm of government.
And again, People mostly go to church for deliverance and miracles when thing are not going well with them.
The wealthy dont go to church to sow seed n tithe, its only d poor because they expect more.
In Europe n US, people think less about churches because they are not suffering like most African.

Your submission is good, however, the church were one of the organization that brought Education to us, and I am quite convinced, Education has a lot of positive sides, we can have a "local" solution to our problem. We can do this together
Christianity EtcThe Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Walphem(op): 10:25pm On Oct 29, 2016
Today's Nigeria economy is really becoming uninteresting and a bit sickening, this has made me ponder so much and left me totally confused. I have asked myself what are the roles of today's believers? Joseph was a man that God used to plan for the raining days of a country and he saved an entire country and his family from Famine. Jesus Christ fed 5000 women, and performed lot of miracles. With these and many more I am totally convinced that the church is fully Empowered to solve the present predicament Nigeria is in.

Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate the efforts of various churches in organizing leadership and empowerment seminars eg Daystar Leadership conference, Convent Centre's -The Platform, RCCG Conventions, Winners' Shiloh, TREM's Kingdom Life Conference etc. However, what the country need from the church at this point is way beyond that.
All through the remaining period of the year, October, November, Decemeber churches will be filled up with Church goers praying to close the year 2016 strongly and start the year 2017 in a much better way! And believe me the church gives so much hope to those with faith and believes! After this Hope, Faith and Believe what more? Empowerment seminars and Leadership trainings? Is that enough? No that isn't enough! We need churches that can use its might to solve particular problem(s) of the country.

I remember few years ago Daystar came up with a project to ensure Nigerians enjoy constant power supply, but we never heard about the campaign anymore. We have also heard of Pastors vying for political positions to assist in solving the national problems, what a fantastic step,however the Bible clearly identify to us not to " yoke with unbelievers".

Then how do I want the church to be a game changer? It is simple, why can't we have one or 2 churches going into mainstream agriculture as part of their missionary work, most of them raise funds for missionary works outside the country with minimal or no ROI(mind you I know it is not meant for profit) , but it is long overdue for the big churches to start venturing in solving real life problems and not "educational" problems alone.

It is worthy to note that great professionals are "church goers" and they can give their services to churches on Pro bono, with this churches can have an industry of their choice for the purpose of solving problems.

The time has come to not only buy Private jets (in dollars and putting pressure on the Forex) importing church equipment in Billions of Naira etc

We can truly show the world "how missionary work can be done" not just by opening schools alone and the graduate of the schools not even having any paid employment.

I have a strong feeling that the church has the right solution to Nigeria's problems.

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Caveat: I am just a concerned Nigerian and a Christian, thread isn't for insults but to discuss how we can get Nigeria out of this mess
EducationRe: Universities In South Africa To Introduce Bsc Witchcraft (photo) by Walphem(m): 8:53pm On Oct 16, 2016
Too much of Harry Porter's movie..this guy is a joker, seems like ComedComedy
PoliticsRe: WAI not Nigeria’s most urgent need- Politicians by Walphem(m): 2:53pm On Aug 25, 2016
It was lottery for him...
Christianity EtcRe: Tim Lahaye Is Dead by Walphem(m): 11:00pm On Jul 25, 2016
Otses:
I was just going through one of his books he coauthored with his wife Beverly this afternoon only for me to see this on NL. sighs...
He lived a fulfilled life and his books will continue to be a blessing to people. Rest in peace sir
That should be The Act of Marriage?
PoliticsRe: . by Walphem(m): 5:00am On Jun 04, 2016
This thread will generate lot of uproar in a short while, but I wish we can objectively analyze things and ask the critical question of what Bayeksa and Delta has been using the money for(objectively) without any prejudice or biased mind. And if this picture shown is just a section of the state, also people should remember as developed as Lagos is, there are still slums in it.
EducationRe: Edo University Iyamo School Fees Will Shock You (photo) by Walphem(m): 10:29am On Apr 09, 2016
They couldn't even write correct sentence. It is well
PoliticsRe: Stamp Duty Tax Payment Implemented? by Walphem(m): 8:38am On Feb 02, 2016
I got the alert too yesterday, just wondered so soon, no form of sensitization and full explanation.
PoliticsRe: Caption This Photo Of Lagos Governor With YBNL Artist Lil Kesh by Walphem(m): 9:01am On Jan 13, 2016
Seems Ambode and Olalekan Solomon "Yayi" are brothers.....look at they similar characteristics grin
SportsRe: Yaya Toure Insults CAF Player Of The Year Award. by Walphem(m): 3:58pm On Jan 08, 2016
homesteady:
This Yaya is a very petulant big baby! It seems he has a very short memory, he has forgotten that Mikel was the best player in AFCON and he didn't win the POTY, instead they gave it to him that had a terrible AFCON! It is now he knows that continental achievement is necessary for the award! Besides he wasn't even the best player in AFCON.

And he has won it 4 times in a row oh undecided SMH
God bless you my brother, I think someone should please remind him. I think he has forgotten totally
PoliticsRe: Alert: With The New Price Of Petrol, Do Not Pump Full Tank It's Dangerous. by Walphem(m): 11:07am On Jan 01, 2016
Great piece, I will try most of the theories indicated. No wonder one always argue over the gauge of different fuel station. Ignorance is truly a disease grin
PoliticsRe: How We’ll Create Jobs Through 365 Festivals In Nigeria – Lai Mohammed by Walphem(m): 3:04am On Dec 29, 2015
If this can be fully implemented, tourism will wear a new look and hoteliers and other investors in this sector can smile to the bank. A good way of encouraging SMEs
Car TalkRe: Nigeria Automobile Sector To Contribute 4.5% Of 2016 Global Sales by Walphem(m): 2:55am On Dec 29, 2015
Hopefully the purchasing power will be there for Local purchase, rather than having cars in stock and not able to buy, due to the situation of the economy
PoliticsRe: Economy can’t sustain subsidy – Kachikwu, NNPC boss: Vanguard by Walphem(m): 3:50am On Aug 21, 2015
Summary of the piece: Remove Subsidy!
PoliticsRe: Senator Anyim’s Office Got N1.4b Computer Software - Senator Abaribe by Walphem(m): 3:48am On Aug 21, 2015
Some guys will term it propaganda. Then don't need to read the article at all
PropertiesRe: Disaster Waiting To Happen At Adeniji Adele(Third Mainland Bridge) by Walphem(m): 1:44pm On Jul 23, 2015
I ve called 767, 112 countless times on this case, to my greatest surprise, the guys didn't know adeniji, and said I should call Ikeja Fire service. The last time I called was Around June 2014.i just pray they will view this and act on it
EducationRe: Unilag PG 2015/2016 ADMISSION DISCUSSION HERE by Walphem(m): 10:15pm On Jul 13, 2015
Thanks all for this great thread! Please kindly inform me on the best materials to use in preparing for the MBA entrance exam(The past questions will differently be used). regular GMAT? Am eagerly waiting for your response. God bless
TravelRe: Info For All Those Who Want To Travel To Vietnam To Buy Clothes/shoes Etc by Walphem(m): 7:05pm On May 23, 2015
I went on an official trip to Vietnam last month, and got some Geox, Nike, Puma shoes and suits Also.i wasn't expecting a huge difference in price from the standard prices online. But on getting home I just Google the stuffs I got and was amazed at the HUGE PRICE DIFFERENCE.
I wished I did a good survey or read this thread before traveling there, I would ve packed a "truck" load of stuff.
imagine you can get a cloth sown within 24 hrs there.

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