15 I responded stating there has been no definitive feedback from them the 3 times in november i have reached out to them. I stated I am no longer interested in this purchase nor a replacement. That I want my money back.

16 Overall, it has been 48 50 days since purchase till now, with no resolution from sosogames

17. I want a refund.

9. I followed up with them on 21st November and they said they are awaiting feedback. They also acknowledged the email sent to info@sosogames.net on November 20th

10. No timeline was given

11. On November 27th, I sent an email to info@sosogames.net stating I cannot be expected to wait indefinitely for resolution in a matter where Sosogames returned the unit to the Supplier and a timeline of 10 days of feedback/action was given. The timeline has been exceeded. I also stated that If this issue remains unresolved by the 30th of November, 2023, Sosogames should consider said mail as a notice/request for a refund of my money. There was no response to my emails

12. As the issue was recreated in their presence, investigated by their engineer before sending to the supplier, one can infer the device is a faulty one, which is not what i paid for

13. I reminded them on Dec 2nd via whatsapp that it has been 36 days since purchase and return of the device. As it stands, they are in possession of both the device and my money

14 On Dec 4, Sosogames responded via whatsapp that they are awaiting feedback from the supplier that day. No feedback was given to me from Sosogames from that day

6. On Friday Nov 3rd, he said that he is sending the unit back to the manufacturer and asked me to wait 10 working business days

7. Following up with him on Nov 11th, he said he will call me when he gets an update.

8. Up till November 20th, there was no update from them. I sent an email to info@sosogames.net stating the summary of my complaint and asking for an amicable solution

3. The issue was recreated in their presence and they told me they will look at it and update me by Tuesday evening. I was not updated as promised.

4. I called him on Wednesday, (1st November 2023) evening and they said no issue. I then requested a refund. He refused and hung up the phone on me mid-conversation. I have his refusal in writing.

5. I reminded him that the issue came up in their presence. He alleged I installed the OS incorrectly. I am sure everyone is aware that this is not possible on a brand new SteamDeck.

Question for the timeline: if you buy something from a vendor, and return it due to a defect that they acknowledge, and they keep telling you “we are awaiting the manufacturer feedback” for more than 30 days, what will you call that?

Before you answer, give your reply to sosogames. Maybe they think this is perfectly fine.

I'll stick to the facts

1. I bought a SteamDeck 512gb from Sosogames shop on Friday 27th October 2023. I encountered issues with it.

2. I dropped it at the Sosogames shop on 31st October 2023 and explained the issue. Staff there asked questions such as if I hacked it and installed it erroneously. I told them no.

(Continued)

With regards to deploying apps for clients? It seems to be adopted well abroad but what of here in Nigeria?

You experiences are welcome

Good point OP.

I learnt mobile app development using a mobile app framework. More importantly, I learnt how to build mobile app layouts for such a framework and sell them online to global customers using Gumroad.com. Chances are if you have mastered a skill here you can sell your skill (or products made from your skill) online. And if you're selling on gumroad you're earning in dollars. so you're inflation proof.

I'll be taking more questions if you're interested, but from there its up to you.

Basically digital goods.

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myviewr:
you are putting your self above your customer humble yourself your not to be for 10,000 no one is

I respectfully disagree. if you're not too big for 10k, that's okay. As I said, I value myself far more no matter the circumstance. That means we're targeting different customers.

myviewr:
start a buisness own 100% equity
you do this have 10 customers you add on thats 200,000 plus 10,000 every month
you bring in 4 other employees but you pay the with equity and let them be part of your business to help it grow
that 5 people each now own 20% equity
imagine the 5 people bring additional 50 people thats 500,000 plus 50,000 every month
thats a viable business
you can now start branching out getting bigger contracts
or you could even start web hostting
remember you have 50 customers who are so pleased with you already, the fact is you can now test out new ways of making profit or even expanding because you have 50 loyal customers who knows they are not going to get this service anywhere
always remember your customer is KING you are not doing them a favour.
they are doing you a favour

Sounds good on paper excluding overhead/running costs/referral system or marketers. But if it works for you, that's okay.

@GraphicsPlus, true. Skill and Knowledge are vital. I was quoting him though

myviewr:
Yet you would charge 80,000 for that simple site which could be be done for just 5,000-10,000 and get profit from it

myviewr: also imagine you are a developer who charges 10,000 for development you get 10 people in a month that is 100,000 you also charge after sales service for maintenance lets say 1,000 a month thats sums up to 10,000 a month
tell me people would not refer you to their friends or even create other sites with you. the is just a (ruff estimate)
from there you can start thinking how your going to expand your business

not charging 100,000 then thinking in one month then thinking to myself yes i have done it then not getting anybody coming back to you in again and wandering what you have done wrong and to be honest i have see most of the site people on nairaland have made. it's honestly not good ( just saying the ones i have see) there is no sense of design. splashing around random colours together. I am just saying what we all know but wont talk about

@web monk
@graphic plus

i want you to go and download twitter bootstrap. it comes with preloaded javascript, html and css.
make a website with that and compare it to the ones you have seen on nairaland.

http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/

that is the link it is as easy as copy and pasting code. and comes with complete documentation i assume you are a developer yourselves, if you are it wont take up to 20 mins for you to understand twitter bootstrap give it a chance and consider what i said above.

waiting for your reply

I'm guessing from your post that your knowledge of bootstrap helps you in your 10 clients x 10k business logic. If it does, Kudos. That's being efficient. As for your business logic, you have something that brings in 10k every month (EDIT: or whatever low amount you charge). And that, as far as your business goes, is the value of your time. I value myself far more and think of bigger things. And if that means a client can't afford my services, that's perfectly okay.

That's really the gist of it, I'm afraid.

I suppose it comes down to how you value/position yourself.

From what I've read, you seem to be talking about very small businesses. On that kind of scale I can leave your argument. That's not the level I'm playing at, and I guess that's fine.

But to suggest that price of 5000-10,000 for anything more than installing an already complete template on a wordpress site is basically saying "whatever time i invested in this is no more that worth 10k" (assuming profit is 10k) Anyone (client or developer) will agree that's cheap for a human being to sit down in Nigeria and work on a project without factoring his knowledge, power supply and internet bills.

Anyone with this mindset will no doubt think that even 80k is broad daylight robbery.

My point:
Anyone has the right to charge what he chooses. In any business you're paying for the application of the business's knowledge in a context that gives you value/profit + overhead. That's where the charging is really, and and be anywhere between 10k and $1,000,000

[size=5pt]Guess he hasn't seen the client that turned him down because he charged 10k....[/size]

These people would have at least reasoned that we've heard them all before.
As for me, I decided no more. I can't understand it. Its like the only way for them to be satisfied is if they know they have cheated you. I even had a potential client become enraged over my prices after I politely turned him down, when I'm not the one that told him to come to my website/see my portfolio/contact me.

In my former place of work, the client went so far as to ask for a "discount" over the already "discounted" agreed price, after the project was complete! I guess I should add that to the list.

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Eventually you'll move to OOP. If you've been using procedural for a long while you'll appreciate the speed and management of OOP better especially with larger projects. Adding a framework to it only makes your work faster. Some frameworks are better optimized for speed than others.

utimatedes:

You think every client know how to investigate properly, how many of them can check the whois of a site?

Is unfortunate that those selling cheap services have nothing to offer and they are the one causing problem here and there.

Well to be fair, there was a thread setup specifically for new clients coming on the Webmaster Board to avoid these kind of pitfalls

Like someone said, Proper due Dilligence at all times.

Girlfriends of Programmers/Coders, take note 

http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/09/awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww/

This might just be the sweetest Valentine’s Day story I’ve ever heard. It’s definitely the sweetest Valentine’s Day story I’ve ever written.

Kaitlyn Trigger is a marketing director at Rally.org. She also happens to be Instagram co-founder Mike Krieger’s girlfriend of two and a half years (The 26 year old Krieger and 27 year old Trigger met at a friend’s house in October of 2009 and moved in together in October 2010). And my hero.

Last December, Trigger decided she wanted to be able to talk to her boyfriend in depth about the stuff he was working on. So the Yale political science major who “never took any computer classes” covertly downloaded “Learn Python the Hard Way” and began the Odyssey into programming, deadline Valentines’ Day.

Her goal? To create what is now Lovestagram, a way to take the Instagram photos you’ve shared with a specific person and turn them into an e-Valentine. “Several months ago, I was brainstorming a gift for two friends who had recently gotten engaged. I wanted to find Instagram photos they had in common, and it was tough!”

After she learned Python, Trigger then had to complete a Django tutorial in order to bring the Python online — she used Heroku to push stuff to a webserver. She spent marathon weekends building the site, leaving the apartment for a total of three hours on the Martin Luther King holiday in order to finish by February 14th.

“Learning to program isn’t the hard part. The biggest challenge is figuring out how all the moving parts of a web application fit together. There’s no book for that,” she said.

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Here’s a Lovestagram that Kaitlyn sent to Mike and yes, she actually wrote, “Like an Instagram filter, you make my world more beautiful.” And yes she also had to learn Photoshop to come up with the the three different designs, “It’s almost harder than Python,” she told me.

While the service ended up looking amazing, her plan to keep it a secret from Krieger didn’t work, mainly because of her frustration with working out bugs, “Something would take me an hour and a half and I knew that ten feet away is someone who could fix the same bug in ten seconds.” So she spilled the beans.

“Mike was really touched,” she said. “His support throughout this whole process has really been a gift. Tolerating me when I’ve been cranky.” Trigger views both the physical manifestation of her skills and the skills themselves as the V-Day gifts, “[But] the fact that we have one more thing in common is the bigger gift.”

As someone who might have dated a programmer at some point, I feel Trigger’s pain when she described the state of Krieger sitting in front of computer as “not knowing what he was doing.” “It’s hard in a city where most of the men are software engineers and most of the women are not,” she says (for the record I also tried and failed to learn Python – more on that later).

Trigger suggests creating classes specifically for women who want to code as a possible solution to this particular digital divide, the trick is to not be intimidated ,“

 is something that nobody should be afraid of. “

It’s also something that you don’t need a significant other for necessarily. The best V-Day gift of coding skills you can give, is the V-Day gift of coding skills you give to yourself.

When I asked her why her son isn't married yet, she said he's a man, he can marry anytime.

LIKE A BOSS!!!  

[Offtopic]
@kokoA, can I talk to you. you created a thread about SAP certification in 2009. I wanna know how did it go. was it worth it? I'm in the same scenario and would like your thought. thanks

Yup. got that blackout page too. but my link was slow enough for me to see the actual content I was looking for before the blackout occured (they were using an overlay). so I refreshed and stopped the page JUST before it finished loading. Perfect.

allowed.

Most of the thread has been compiled into an ebook availible here

*dhtml:

I have been getting a lot of kudos for codeigniter, i have started reading about it.

Cool. Excellent documentation and a vibrant community. Its light-weight and a little barebones, but most have been made up for by the community and updates.

Codeigniter does it for me. Built on top of it to suite my needs. Still is my fave. How come Kohana's not on the list?

no harm in asking. though if he doesnt oblige, your next action should be contacting the webhost itself for assistance. the transfer is usually a webhost to webhost affair initiated by whoever registered the site, so explaining your case to the current webhost should hopefully start the process by the circumventing the developer (its a long shot though)

CBT online:

It's a long story. To cut it short, i'm disengaging and cutting short my relationship
with him.

If the web developer[b] registered the domain on your behalf[/b], then under normal circumstances you would have instructed him to facilitate the transfer process. But since you and him ended on a sour note, if the web developer doesn't/can't honor your request, you might have burnt the bridge before crossing it.

Assuming the above is the case (you can't get the developer to do it, even if its in his name), your other options are slim. Can you contact the webhost directly, explaining the situation? If you're a registered company, some documentation might help. The key is convincing the webhost the domain is in fact yours.

I've written on these issues extensively, and it might help you be more proactive as per your next project. Hope this helps.