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helinues:
Dispute what Reno wrote, Obidients have used their lies to let other foreigners think all Nigerian youths reason the same

I was having a chat with a foreigner the other day, he still couldn't believe why Obi loss the Nigeria election, when I told him he came third with 2 million votes difference between the first, he was shocked.

And then he said but Obi was popular amongst the youths most especially online then I now gave him an example why it looks like. NL for example, some of them have more than 10 monikers using to revalidate themselves which will look like more people in support, same on Twitter and other social media.

Make una reduce una tempo cos the perception about the Obidients group presently is not looking good.

Another one desperate for tribalistic back and forth lol. My condolences but you’re getting none from me.

I love you too ❤️❤️❤️

PS: be careful I hear hatred can be addictive ❤️

ekolobaba:
But him dey lie? Una no fit siddon for one place, na to dey lie everywhere na him una sabi.

You are so desperate for tribalistic tension lol. Sorry I don’t have it for you so go and engage someone else for your fix

Me as I dey like this I love you die ❤️❤️❤️

This man is always twerking for attention

Lol is this real?

Faiththatworks:
Hmmmmm
God bless Rev. Father Alia
God bless the sensible people of Benue state
God bless APC
God bless Senator George Akume for making Rev Father Alia the gubernatorial candidate of APC.
God destroy PDP
EFCC should imprison that failed Governor Called Ortom.
How can anyone even consider contesting for the post of a Senator after refusing to pay its pensioners for 10 months and government workers 3 month before an election.
Tueh on Ortom...
One month salary since December last year,now you understand why Failed Gov Ortom never wanted the Fulani crisis in Benue to stop,the man always had an excuse never to pay salaries and Pensions.
Every month end for more than 8 months,there was always a recycled press statement on Fulani herders invading Benue state,it's month end now and Gov Alia hasn't released any dirty press statement but instead paid the salary of the government workers.
Ortom should be a course in the University on failed leadership in Nigeria since We got our independence since 1960.
It's characters like Failed Governor Ortom that allows the military to take back power from civilians.
Thank God he has been sent to the jungle of perdition by sensible Benue people.
Tueh again on Failed Governor Ortom.
God bless Father Alia
God bless Benue state
God bless Nigeria

Where is Buhari’s blessing? 💀

Abi that APC failure too much to shallow? 💀

SAAAdeboye:
Governor Abba Kabir Yusuf of Kano State has ordered the Accountant General to stop the salaries of 10,800 workers employed by his predecessor, Abdullahi Umar...



http://dailytrust.com/daily-trusts-r…

I just want to understand if this is the type of leadership that Kwankwaso believes in? Because Nigeria can not afford to allow another incompetent strongman even dream about being president ever again after the monumental failure that was PMB

seunmsg:
Overall, Atiku and Peter Obi simply wasted everyone’s time. They had no case of rigging so they had to throw in a lot of allegations hoping one will stick. Sadly, they proved none. The two cases will be dismissed with heavy cost to the petitioners.

Oh they certainly have a case of rigging and literally every Nigerian knows that including you lol

But it is very hard to prove because the rules favour the physical copies that were manipulated.

I’m an Obidient who thought LP had a good chance before the election but I’m now convinced APC could very well have won (on a second ballot) without rigging.

Thankfully APC’s thuggery now means that PBAT has a weak mandate and that’s a blessing to us all because the last president was given a strong mandate that made him arrogant in his incompetence.

God bless Nigeria ❤️

Workch:
Well, I do not have issues with your Christian faith as long as you don't make it a universal standard for everyone. There's beauty is diversity.

I have similar issues with fellow Christians on this side. I believe it’s okay to encourage other Christian’s to live Christ-like lives but for those who aren’t saved that really shouldn’t be a focus at all because ultimately the Bible says you can’t be saved by works alone. Focusing on the sins of non-believers is kinda pointless because even if they stopped sinning entirely but still don’t believe then they still aren’t saved.

Christians do have a duty to spread the gospel though but I believe that is through their lives, testimonies and prayers rather than judgement and focusing on the “bad behaviours” of non-believers

Christianity is one of the easiest religion to disprove, however it's difficult to disprove the existence of a god. I am even bothered about disproving one because it doesn't matter to me.
Again, it's good if faith is what you have chosen, just don't use it to dictate how others live their lives like most Christians do. If you do that then you might start facing resistance.

I disagree, I believe Christianity is the most fundamentally sound religion but I’m obviously biased. Even putting my personal conviction aside, I’m convinced you’re underrating how hard it would be to disprove the existence of the God that Christian’s believe in, as well as Jesus who Christian’s believe is God and is the only way to salvation.

Christians are judgemental and very annoying. Most times they think their is the universal truth and they want you to live by the rules of their Bible. It's where I start having problems with them. They think that they know all and their Bible answers everything when it's obviously not true.
Thr reason why irreligious people usually do not pick on other religion is because other religions do not show off like Christians do.
Christians are braggarts and will easily want to condemn you using their religious rules.

I agree some Christians can be judgemental and it’s really not useful at all because like stated earlier there is really no reason to be judgemental or try to control the behaviour of those that don’t believe. That alone won’t save them according to scripture anyway so it’s pointless and the wrong angle to take. But I believe irreligious people pick on Christianity because it’s the most fundamentally sound and that tendency also fulfills what scripture says about persecution being part of the Christian experience but I don’t expect you to buy into that if you’re not a believer

I live in Lagos, I have not seen a Muslim trying to convert me, I can't count how many Christians who have done that. And the wa they go about it, they make you feel like you are living a miserable life without Jesus. That's annoying and it's why I don't fancy Christians.
They are too full of themselves and their religion. This is why they get attacked alot by irreligious people

That’s simply because scripture encourages Christian’s to spread the word to the ends of the earth. If you can accept that Christian’s truly believe that all men have sinned and falling short of the glory of God and that Jesus is the only way to salvation then you can appreciate why they would want to share this message to the people they love and care about.

So while I don’t think it’s helpful for Christian’s to try to force non-believers to live their lives in a certain way, they are certainly expected to share the gospel i.e. the story of how man fell from grace with God and how Jesus was sent to save us. They will also inadvertently share why they believe this (their individual testimony)

If you don’t believe any of it then I can see why it would be annoying. It’s as annoying as pro-vaccine people pushing the jab on anti-vaxxers (I’m not taking a side on the vaccine here lol just an example). Ultimately we all have to tolerate each other ❤️

ogododo:
Hundreds of protesters on Monday hit Kano streets to express their displeasure with the ongoing demolition exercises of the state government.

Daily Trust reports that the government has pulled down some structures while several others have been marked for demolition.


The government premised its action on the grounds that the land upon which the affected structures were erected were “illegally” allocated by the immediate past government.

The structures already demolished include the multi-billion Naira project at the old Daula Hotel, shopping plazas at the Polo Ground and at the Eid ground, while residential and commercial buildings have been marked for demolition at Salanta area and BUK road.

Lawless kids and fears of terrorism in Kano

Fire razes warehouses in Kano

While the government has insisted there is no going back in its resolve to “restore” the Kano Urban Development Masterplan which include removing structures erected on public spaces, the protesters that hit the streets early Monday demanded that the government rescind its decision.

With posters like “Gov Yusuf, your action is sending away investors”, “Don’t bring insecurity to our state, Mr Governor”, and “Let the law takes its cause” among others, the protesters after converging at the demolished Daula Hotel, proceeded to the police headquarters to register their grievances.



Speaking on behalf of the protesters, Comrade Zahraddeen Sani Baba of the Coalition for Good Governance and Change Initiative, said if the incumbent governor has anything against his predecessor, “please call him to answer questions instead of punishing innocent Nigerians and destroying their investments.”


https://dailytrust.com/breaking-anti-demolition-protest-breaks-out-in-kano/

Good.

Would be concerning if the people of Kano were comfortable with their Government declaring buildings “illegal” without court judgement and demolishing them at a whim

If anything it is the demolition of buildings bought by private citizens in good faith without any legal process that is “illegal”.

Anyway these type of politicians should never ever be allowed to enter the federal government. Nigeria must never make a mistake like the incompetent PMB and his failed administration ever again

Iceberg3:
He has taken very bold and great steps as regards his appointments so far..his appointments has been all inclusive unlike the insensitive nigerien citizen who ran a highly nepotistic gonment.
Tinubu appointing a southerner to head Nigeria Customs is so astronomic and commendable.

He should now be very weary of the northern conservationists who are irked and who are planning some evil plot at the senate.

All true citizens especially the southerners, irrespective of party affiliation,tribe, religion should rally round Tinubu now as we seem tilting towards true federalism.

The northern leaders that gave us the incompetent arrogant failure that was PMB and supported him for 8 consecutive years are now irked by PBAT for no just reason, other than appointing competent people to run the country for once lol. Doesn’t that speak volumes.

Yet everyday on here all you’ll see is tribal nonsense between southerners. And if we’re being honest it was started by Tinubu himself as evidence by most of his people engaging in the same nonsense on twitter from way before the election till today. So I have little sympathy for him.

PS: PBAT has done well so far. His weak mandate is a great blessing to Nigeria. The last president had a strong mandate and that fuelled his bigotry

BigBlackPreek:
funny enough he also bought presidential form

na this kind people wan rule us


we go suffer for their hands ooo

as a Yoruba guy, Soludo is the only man from that region I can vote as president from that region ...the rest go make una suffer wella before una go see 1kobo

PMB finished the country with his ineptitude and incompetence but it’s “that region” that is your problem lol

If Soludo decides to contest I’m sure you’ll find a reason to hate him too. I don’t doubt your creativity ❤️

DMerciful:
We're fighting for a new Nigeria and like our principal Obi would say, you don't expect people benefitting from the rot in the system to just go away without a fight.

Its not expected to be easy and if you're truly Obidient, you'll see to the endof the petition with believe! You can't just give up unless you never truly believe in the Obidient movement

Okay sir sorry to disappoint you ❤️

DMerciful:
You're not a true Obidient. To give up at the beginning of a fight! I wonder whether you thought it'd be easy.

Tinubu will be removed and Obi declared.
Its too sure!

Okay sir please show me how to be more Obidient lol ❤️

Workch:
sincerely, I really do not think you can provide evidence either.

While I am aware that faith is prone to errors, it's okay for people to have faith. We can't all be the empirical guy, you know. So there's beauty in diversity.

I don't have to disprove testimonies, the fact that a pastor who claims to be so powerful cannot heal an amputee in a controlled environment says a lot. It's okay to have such beliefs, even if they are not true. Where we start having issues is if you try to make your faith the universal truth that everyone should be subjected to, we will stay asking you for the evidence at that point.

Have the faith, let it remain in your life. Don't make it a universal truth if you cannot prove it universally.

I don’t believe in any “all powerful pastor” my friend, I believe in an all powerful God. It’s cool that conclusive empirical evidence is your style but that’s not how the Christian faith works because it is individual.

You won’t be able to disprove any persons individual experience to that person because they experienced it and you didn’t. Faith is individual. If someone was physically healed from a disease they were told was incurable there’s not much you or anyone can tell them to disprove their testimony. Showing them a video of a pastor who couldn’t do healings in a laboratory set up by atheists won’t change a thing to that person. Their faith is individual to them.

I doubt many Christian’s are trying to make their faith a universal truth. If so they would be in a lab doing experiments with pastors rather than sharing their individual experiences. They share their personal truth which can help others find this individual truth too. Ultimately Christian’s believe it’s God that saves. You can’t logic someone else into faith unfortunately which is why I’m not really trying to do that here. Just explaining how I believe it works

But people of faith also have a right to influence law, culture and norms just like everyone else. We are all being “subjected to” each other to use your own phrase. Most people believe murder should be illegal. In a democracy it’s perfectly okay for someone to believe that because of their religion and someone else to believe the same for another reason.

Workch:
I don't think science can ever prove or disprove the existence of a god but science have disproven the existence of the "Christian version of God"

personal encounters are not reliable. Don't even depend on personal encounters as humans are not as reliable as you think. It is why the word "evidence" exist.

testimonies are not evidence, they are claims. I don't know how this is difficult to understand. If you tell me a story, it's a claim.


I agree with the bible on many things, but the foundation upon which Christianity is built upon which is the virgin birth of Jesus and the creation story is inconsistent with reality. Christians cannot provide evidence for it. As a matter of fact, several evidence suggest that those stories are false

Christians cannot even answer basic questions, not all questions.
Basic questions like virgin birth and evidence for simple miracles which they claim to be true

I think you’ve misunderstood the general point of my message lol

I’m not trying to give you evidence that God exists. Maybe read what I wrote again. My first line pretty much admitted I can’t.

I’m saying that I believe faith is individual for everyone. I didn’t expect you to take what I wrote as conclusive evidence lol. That’s not how it’s meant to work. But you also can’t disprove the testimonies that many people have experienced first hand.

senatordave1:
You are a good analyst.but what's in for obi? I believe with buhari gone, kwankwaso owns the north.shettima,El rufai will struggle for second spot.tinubu will handover to shettima or ribadu

Lol we’re slowly learning in real time

Obi is still in court so let’s see how that goes. I can’t see much hope for him unfortunately because it’s Nigeria but also because it’s very difficult for him to prove he won the election like he said. I still support him and while there’s plenty evidence that the election was rigged in favour of APC I haven’t yet seen any conclusive evidence that Obi won the election outright. So his best hope is for a rerun or a disqualification of Tinubu (both seem very unlikely to me)

In some ways that is also his best hope for 2027 and beyond: Another four party election where PDP and NNPP field heavyweight northern candidates. He will have to try to get into the second ballot against anyone other than Tinubu because Tinubu is strong in both the south and the north while Obi is very weak in the core north

So even if Obi somehow manages to unite the opposition (NNPP, PDP and LP) against APC, he will still struggle. The incumbent effect is real too.

I watched so many polling videos before the last election and one thing that surprised me was the number of unexpected people that admitted they voted for Buhari in 2019. Pretty sure there’s a psychological thing where some people just vote for the man currently in charge. The power of the office will also give PBAT advantages.

So I’m not that hopeful about an Obi presidency anymore but let’s see. Ultimately I’m very happy that the current president has a weak mandate because that is forcing him to work. Buhari had a strong mandate in 2015 and that made him arrogant in his incompetence.

PBAT is clearly far more competent than PMB but is also under real pressure from the ongoing litigation to perform. That is good news for Nigeria ❤️

Workch:
Because I do not see evidence that God exist. If you ask religious people for evidence, they will keep telling you nonsense.
Religious people do not even know what qualifies as evidence.

I’m not sure there is scientific all conclusive evidence that God exists. I don’t believe that is how God intended “faith” to work. There also isn’t scientific all conclusive evidence that God does not exist.

Now many Christians have their own personal encounters that is enough for them. Imagine experiencing what Paul is described to have experienced in the Bible. That would be enough individual evidence for many. It certainly was for Paul.

These testimonies are not enough to conclusively prove to everyone that God exists but they do encourage others who then go on to find their own individual experiences and faith. I’m sure you’ve heard many testimonies and while they obviously won’t prove anything to you try put yourself in that person’s shoes next time.

For me I’ve also found that the Bible is more correct about many things (inter gender relations, tolerance, attitude under subjugation, etc) than the mainstream ideology atheists tend to subscribe to. I used to buy into many liberal ideology (e.g. blank slate theory) that majority of atheist in the west subscribe to. But I’ve realised many of these are idealistic thinking not built on truth. And finding the truth has led me back to the scripture and God. Life makes a lot more sense now and I could not be happier

Ultimately Christians can’t answer all the questions. Paul himself admitted in Corinthians that “we only see a reflection as in a mirror” and we only “know in part”. We don’t have all the answers and that’s okay. It’s not like science can either

senatordave1:
My motto has always been no northerner,any southerner is ok whether obi,tinubu,sowore etc

Fair enough. I’m now on the same page tbh

[quote author=wwwihy post=123990235]Peter Obi closed his case without calling a single polling unit agent?

Is this a Joke?


https://twitter.com/ThatIsokoLawyer/status/1672289506584608790[/quote]What’s the point of calling a polling unit agent for “he said she said” nonsense?

senatordave1:
I hate atiku more than obi actually.atiku people sometimes prefer tinubu but the behaviour of obidients is terrible

Not calling you a liar but if someone read your posts here they would think you hated Obi more.

Just the way it is as it’s those two candidates that have the most presence online. Tinubu’s supporters have acted much worse if you asks me

ThatCEO:
Wikipedia is not admissible in any court o. I can also edit Wikipedia articles n create wiki pages. So, just about anybody can write whatever there

Because I said it was admissible shey lol

Just setting the record straight as regard to wikipedia that some other people mentioned my bro

senatordave1:
Most of those attacking tinubu here are from se if you do a deep analysis.again, obidients don't mind tinubu losing to atiku

Most BATists people hate Obi deeply too, far more than Atiku. It's a natural consequence of their bruising battle in south (which has a heavy social media presence) before and after the election. As the 'winner' Tinubu should be doing his part to unify the country but based on the behaviour of his people online he has clearly chosen to go in the other direction.

He can't blame anyone other than himself if that backfires

respect80:
I actually thought you were joking o

It has been there for a while, since March 2021 at least. Possibly much earlier

Wikipedia history is open to all

ehissi:
Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the tinubu media centre has just added adekunle to his name on Tinubu's Wikipedia page......Haaaaa

Heeley!!! Wahala! Wahala!! Wahala!!!

keymatt:
Dem don quickly add Adekunle to the mandate thief's Wikipedia profile 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wikipedia history shows the name has been on his profile for a long time, at least as far back as March 2021 (possibly much longer).

Fulaninigger:
What about El-Rufai?

He is positioning for presidency in 2031. Tinubu didn't officially hold any office from 2007 and now he's president. Buhari didn't officially hold any office from 1985 until he won in 2015. Vying for presidency is a full time job in Nigeria.

El Rufai must be worried about Kwankwaso which is why I believe he made those controversial comments about MM ticket in Kaduna and nationally. He is battling Kwankwaso for Buhari-style popularity in the core north with the sort of messaging that is popular there (it is what it is). He will put forward his competency to the south when the time is right (looks like the southern population tend to care more about that than religious sentiment).

It would be interesting to see if Kwankwaso declines any ministerial position PBAT offers him too. Kwankwaso would be well positioned to lead a united opposition in 2027 depending on how PBAT's administration goes. It would be easier for him than any southern candidate against Tinubu. It's probably why Tinubu is trying to bring him closer.

Reinaldo:
Grizzly bear would destroy a lion.

Indeed. The African lion would stand little to no chance against a Grizzly or Polar Bear

Penguin2:
See, let me tell you something, like I’ve always told you, I am yet to see what Tinubu will do to get the support of Igbos. I’ve scratched my head but I can’t seem to find one.

And trying to divide Igbo votes is useless. It won’t work. Has never happened before and I don’t see it happening anytime soon. Igbos are homogeneous people. We think alike, behave alike, like the same thing and always move in same direction. One candidate will always get our votes.

If Tinubu releases Nnamdi Kanu, it would be seen as a gimmick to curry our support. We would see it as deception and that’s why it would fall flat on its face.

Even if Tinubu succeeds in winning Obi over to his side, Obi would be ostracized as a sellout and that’s the day his popularity will die.

On a second thought, I think the only one for Igbos to start warming up to Tinubu is if he orders all his foot soldiers to stop all their anti-Igbo rhetorics. All the covert and overt attacks of Igbo businesses and interests, especially in Lagos, should seize with Tinubu issuing an address from heart to Igbos calling on them to shit their swords that he has realized the things he did wrong in the past against Igbos and is willing to make amends. Then lastly, all forms of attack on Igbos during elections should seize; with Igbos allowed to freely vote whoever they want.

If Tinubu can do the above, he will win the Igbos over. Anything else, would be a fruitless venture.

They should continue the rhetoric

If Peter Obi loses in court I doubt he will run again in 2027. Even an idealist like him knows he’d struggle to beat an incumbent Tinubu especially in a two party race.

In that case I’d bet good money that Tinubu’s main opposition in 2027 would be a northerner and if that northerner is formidable in the core north then the shift in tone of Tinubu’s foot soldiers towards the SE will be dramatic

By then it might be too little too late

StreetFight:
If Wike and Kwankwaso move to APC, then there won't be a Presidential election in 2027. Tinubu should just continue till 2031. Doing any Presidential election in 2027 will be senseless and a waste of resources. Then, we should just make Emilokn Tinubu's status and put one at Lagos-Cotonou border, one at Nigeria-Camerron border, one at Bornu-Chad Republic border, and one at Katsina-Niger Republic border, one at the centre of the Atlantic ocean, one at the center of Sahara desert. That's all. That's Africa's god of politics, Lord Tinubu

A Northerner could very well be the main opposition contesting against Tinubu in 2027

Tinubu’s people could very quickly find themselves changing their tune towards a particular region if that opposition is formidable enough in the core north

If PBAT continues performing I’ll personally be obidiently batified because lord knows the country can’t survive another round of PMB level of incompetence but the stupid games some Tinubu supporters are playing on here and on twitter could very quickly backfire