₦airaland Forum

jln115:
Why Destroyers and not Frigates?

Whichever is more capable in terms of Deterrent
It depends on the needs of the navy and NSA though.
Why shouldn't Nigeria get a destroyer?

They were hoping to get bad news from Iran but they got good news instead.

US blocked all of Iran's attempt to purchase covid-19 vaccine and PPE under the guise of sanctions. It is nothing other than weaponizing pandemics against countries not willing to surrender to their hegemony.
Today, Iranians have produced their own vaccine. The empire and her agents will keep getting disappointing news from Iran.

SOURCES . This is shameful journalism. The only purpose the story serves is western propaganda that Kim is a monster that kills people for the silliest of offenses.

Kazikazi:
Good news at a right time.
But here are my questions...

How was the rescue mission done?
Did they arrest anybody or any of the abductors?
Did they kill anybody while trying to rescue the boys?
Did the gov army faced any resistance from the abductors?

The boys were released after negotiations with the abductors
Military operations gave government the upper hand in the negotiations that eventually secured the release of the kids.

A fire exchange with the abductors would have been catastrophic. Accounts given by the freed students showed that the bandits had many armed kids within their ranks and it would have been difficult to differentiate the kids. Many of the students would have died.
So the best thing was done after failure to prevent it from happening in the first instance.

jln115:
why does Nigeria need Destroyers?

Deterrent.
Are we to wait until platforms are required before we start looking for ways to get those platforms?

Among the kids interviewed, one stated that they ate leaves to sustain themselves and some of their abductors were as young as they themselves but armed.

A rescue operation would have been catastrophic, it will be difficult for the troops to differentiate kids belonging to the party of the abductors and the abducted kids. Many of the school kids will die. The government did the next best thing after preventing the abduction in the first instance.
You people will still complain had it been that they attempted a rescue and one of those kids had died.
So drink water and rest.

SFCommander2:
You are wrong sir. DSS is very much aware of this development. IPOB cup go soon full. FG is looking for a good opportunity to crush the joker's once and for all. You watch and see how the whole episodes get unveiled.

Bro, stop defending nonsense. Assuming they knew about the issue before hand, does it make any sense to you that they decided not to stop it before the people behind it organized over 5k people into a security outfit? They didn't stop it when it was just a plan between very few people, it is now that thousands of people believe in the idea that they want to stop it.

hunter21:
when a whole army cannot do their work and civilians still have to help them, nonsense
Many Nigerians are embarrassment to humanity.
The people make the nation.

Security is everyone's responsibility and duty. Citizens have a very important role to play in the security of lives and properties in their immediate environment. Virtually all of us have failed in this aspect yet we expect the police and the military to perform miracle. First expose the criminals and potential criminals in your families and communities and encourage others to do so too and see if you won't enjoy the peace that you so much crave.

There are reports that while the bandits were negotiating with governments, they were also negotiating with Bokoharam and ISWAP and that Shekau's faction won the bid. If true, the only hope left is to ensure that the kids are not taken out of where they've been cited, the area should be surrounded...... That's if they are still there though.

Toju200:
Correction the 17 boys found wasn't negotiated out but they escaped according to channels

They are losing cohesion, many of the boys initially captured have escaped and they also decided to let some go because of the difficulty of the terrain.

NuraSambo:
Lol. People wey go soon collect their ransom cash out. May una dey deceive unaself. By the way, It is disingenuous to continue to refer to these animals as bandits. Let's stop sugar coating their name. Let's call them what they really are - TERRORISTS

They are actually bandits though they use terror tactics, their end game isn't religious, it is wealth and influence. Zamfara and Katsina state governments know them and have negotiated with some of them in the past sef.
The abduction of some police officers around June was a revenge attack by Alhaji Adamu Alero, a bandit from Zamfara who has reportedly repented and forgiven in Zamfara state and he has even helped Zamfara state government to eliminate other bandits but he is still a wanted criminal in Katsina. The revenge attack was in response to the arrest of his son in Katsina, he declared war on Katsina communities and has since killed over 70 civilians and 3 chieftains.
He operates from Munhaye to Katsina. Several other bandits from across the northwest are assisting him to unleash mayhem until he gets his son back. These explains the increase in the frequency of attacks on Katsina since then.

Shekau is desperate seeking media attention. Though in the past he has proposed alliance with some of these bandits, this is not bokoharam's operation.

The honest brutal truth is that only negotiations can secure the freedom of the 300 kids, attempting a rescue operation of 300 hostages is very stupid and will most likely end in catastrophic failure. Government should accept the demands of these people and learn to be proactive next time. 300 armed bandits didn't just materialize out of thin air at the school. These guys must have been planning this for weeks, getting logistics and weapons, they transported themselves to the location. They could have been nabbed while doing all these and the embarrassment could have been prevented.

Whyem15:
Shekau has released an audio claiming responsibility for the kidnapping of the kankara boys.
I personally believe he is either chasing clout or this point to the use of satellite cells in locations outside the northeast to use kidnap for random to generate revenue for JAS.
Either way, hopes are high that the students will be released either by a rescue operation or through negotiations.

If this is the case, only DSS has the capability to sort these kidnapping business out, they should play the lead role for other security agencies.

Start by questioning victims who got their freedoms back after paying ransom. Ask for everything and anything that could be used, things like the sizes of the cells/gangs, languages spoken, how they communicated their demands to the family of the victims, how the ransom was paid, things the abductors talked about, any names or aliases mentioned, the location of the exchange of cash was involved. From the location of the exchange, they can then examine the communities around the location (especially those use frequently), visit such communities to ask for leads, if they don't want to cooperate, some minors should be kidnapped secretly by security agents and the parents should be reached, the terms for releasing the kids is information. The criminals in the communities should be interrogated(every community has criminals or potential criminals) they will definitely get leads if they do these.
The only thing that can reduce kidnapping currently is a relentless manhunt for people benefiting from it and only an intelligence agency can lead such operations. Without this, omo, na everyone of us dem go kidnap ooooo. It is currently the most lucrative crime in Nigeria and as long as the risk involved are very minimal and people keep paying ransom, it will keep expanding.

Shekau has released an audio claiming responsibility for the kidnapping of the kankara boys.
I personally believe he is either chasing clout or this point to the use of satellite cells in locations outside the northeast to use kidnap for random to generate revenue for JAS.
Either way, hopes are high that the students will be released either by a rescue operation or through negotiations.

What is the significance of US sending the same aircraft Nigeria has to aid the airforce? And just one unit for that matter. Don't they have more capable platforms?.
But then it is very unlinked NAF to switch in transponders of their aircrafts.
It is possible it is US aircraft but then what purpose does it serve? Unless Nigeria's own of same capability is currently not functional.

lebuhsi:
Check this out, guys!!! It looks like we are getting help from our American friends

If true, then why does it seem as if the transponder was switched on within the search location.

Toju200:
I think for now it should still be kept cool.
A soilder deployed for the rescue yesterday has confirmed today the boys will soon be out...

Be careful what you believe Sha, what if the diagnostician guy is a fake soldier? I don't know oo but for a soldier on operation in one of the least developed part of a poorly developed state, his network connection is better than many of those living in major cities.

Some of the parents of the students have been contacted for negotiation of ransom. Kidnappers told parents to advise military to stop air surveillance. The students were sighted at Mutu primary school in Yanwarin Daji Dakuzo village zamfara state.

Security expert David Otto believes it's only a matter of time before kidnappers run out of logistics supply control and become desperate.
Problem is that they might decide to kill the unknown number of students as it is the easiest way out for them and to also send a message to the families of future victims. Honestly, I expect some of the less experienced members of the kidnapping operations to have started deserting out of fear of apprehension with the level of response from the military.

This abduction of 333 students is starting to look like a government attempt at showing the effectiveness of the security agencies to me. I mean, the whole country is starting to call for the sacking of service chiefs, calling the security agencies useless and the national assembly inviting/summoning the president to give an account of the security situation in the country.
The swiftness of the response is unlike Nigerian security agencies Sha.
Or it might be that the abduction was done by the bandits and the president knowing his current approval rating applied pressure on all the security chiefs.
Either way, it had to take this event for the military to start search and destroy it f bandits in the forest around Katsina, several exchanges of gunfire reports since yesterday. That's good news Sha. But instead of them to carry this momentum into zamfara, kaduna and other states battling banditry and Insecurity........

Toju200:
NA,NAF repelled ISWAP attack in Borno yesterday,
Troops captured 3 vehicles and motorcycles
Incredibly massive amount of weapons

Those guys came well prepared....
But God no shame us

They came in 15 guntrucks, troops captured 4. Capturing or destroying all would have dealt a blow to that cell's mobility and firepower(no platform to mount heavy guns) for years. The military needs to do better though this is commendable. Just imagine what one mi-35 would have done to those gun trucks with rockets. Even RPGs would have helped a lot. That is one thing the chadian army utilizes brilliantly.

SamuelAnyawu:
We ain't ready to stop Insurgency yet. I only hear about operation fire ball on social media.

We never dey feel anything here for now. We are still doing small clearance and sitting vat FOBs awaiting ISWAP to attack us.

Most of my Military friends here always say 2015 remains the major military offensive operations

The fact that it took the threat of losing an election for GEJ to order a large offensive shows that the Nigeria has the might but lack the will or motivation to end insurgency. Gwoza, the former capital of the bokoharam caliphate was captured in 2015. If the capital could be captured, what stops the military from capturing the other territories. Why stop the offensive in the first instance?

cutievik:
Na only NAF, I dey regard sef

The army wasn't established for law enforcement. Virtually all the security issues we have today are as a result of the counterproductiveness of the police and other law enforcement agencies including DSS.

There were about two or three attacks in Borno state today too. What happened to operation fireball, it doesn't have any semblance with the normal offensive we know, or are they still preparing for the operation? Gwam in Konduga LGA and Askira were attacked. 11 years into this war, the Nigerian military still haven't found a way to stop the yearly dry season bokoharam/iswap offensive.
The current theater commander of operation lafiya dole is somehow the worst the operation has ever had, sadly, he replaced Gen. Adeniyi because of a leaked video.

Early this year, the cultist and cult groups that used to depend on pickpocketing, hailing for money and other petty crimes got more ambitious and started a coordinated robbery attack in many parts of the south-west, the operated for few days and even got bolder to the extent of sending notifications ahead of robbery on any street before the police eventually started harassing them and that was the end of it, it is history now, the useless police force learnt absolutely nothing from the event. They will wait for the next round of robbery attacks by these cult groups before they start chasing them again.

Toju200:
the story is false they didn't abduct any student

You sure about this? There wasn't any attack on the school or the motive of the attack wasn't for abduction?
I have seen people coming out on Twitter to claim their loved ones are among the missing students.
How do we know this isn't an attempt by the government to cover up?

Many still think a border fence is unnecessary? The entire northwest is collapsing, these people are very organized and focus on local communities that are without any military or police presence.



The president is still playing cat and mouse games with the national assembly while terrorist are rapidly taking over the country.
Thank God many among those who considered themselves ruling class are also falling victims, many lawmakers have been kidnapped recently, a retired high ranking military officer was almost killed yesterday, the killers of Alex Badeh, a former chief of defense staff are still at large.
With all these, they will still play politics and move on, they won't even consider thinking things through and finding solutions.
Let's just pray that the motive for this abduction is to get ransom and not to get a slave army that can be used for example as suicide bombers.

The abduction of about 600 students in a secondary Just 6 years after abduction of over 200 in another secondary school is what you get when you have a reactive security system rather than a proactive one.
The 600 is the number reported missing after headcount of the remaining students. Let's just hope that many of them are still hiding or ran for safety.
All these will pale in comparison to Insecurity in the south when organized cultism eventually gets out of hand. And blaming government alone is a very stupid thing to do. Everyone of us has a role to play in the security of our environment. Many of us know criminals/potential criminals but have failed to take action, when the crime eventually becomes unbearable, we start shouting about how government refused to do anything.

Russia is always preparing and getting ready for war. They do not seek it but they need to prevent an attack on themselves. It is a detterent in itself. The doctrine of the Russian military is purely defensive, that doesn't mean they won't test and improve their capabilities in the face of increasing NATO aggression.

Western media scaremongering as always.

Trust me, if Russia wants war, it is the alarm of US early warning systems that will notify the US military and the citizens will only get to know after pictures of explosions start spreading on the internet.

Some people are just obsessed with Islam, it's as if they can't live without talking about Islam negatively.
[b]you can preach Christianity without insulting Islam and Muslims[b]
You don't have to show your hatred for someone else's religion before you propagate yours.
Anyway, it's your choice.

Raaven:
our media will only cry , look at those heartless Moroccans who have sold the rights of the Palestinians for their own interests . nothing more . , specially that our president has dissapeared from a month now not a single pic of him , ( officialy got Covid19 and evacuated to germany hospital ) but no news since . some say he died . so algerian politics and army chefs prepare for a serious crisis . it's not time to look for political quarrels with neighbors and Americans. and even if he was here he will do nothing and say nothing too.


and moroccans kings were always close to israelians . an exemple the king of morocco hassan II had in the past, recorded the meetings of arab leaders in morocco in 1965 which were preparing a war against israel and gave them to the israelians allowing them to know the plans of preparations of the egyptian and jordanian armies , thanks to this informations they launched a preemptive attack. and won the six day war in 1967 against egypt and jordan .

another exemple when hassan II died isrealien prime minister were invited and came at his funeral . there was even an israelian diplomatic liaison office in rabat morocco from 1994 to 2000 . the two countries colonize another country and they need international recognition of this occupation. same strategic interests . good move from moroccan politics .

so it's not surprising . its a coming out .

The lack of sincere unity among Arabs is the biggest disaster in the Middle East. And lack of patriotism too.
With the vast wealth in the Middle East, the Arabs should be ruling the world but it seems as if there is a curse somewhere.

Even if he is dead, he isn't the first Supreme leader and neither would he be the last, in fact he has chosen his successor years ago. The death of anyone will not subjugate Iran, they will never bow to US and Israeli hegemony. And you should be reminded that you will also die one day you vile creature. And as always, God will continue to dissapoint you because you are not of his own.

Righteousness89:
Unconfirmed reports reaching me says a Big tree in Iran has Fallen! But it is not in the open until someone else is officially selected!!

Our Ears are on the ground to know if it is really true