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IslamRe: Science And Faith by wiegraf: 3:44pm On Oct 30, 2012
^^^
Yeah, actually I had to edit that post and add this line, though late...

"Ok, I agree that may be debatable, but still."

But still...

Ok, I'll get those lawyers ready...
TV/MoviesRe: The Most Violent Anime You've Ever Watched? by wiegraf: 3:40pm On Oct 30, 2012
vescucci: Lool. I'm not Christian oh. I'm deist until further notice.

I don't play online RPG games sad. I never started and the longer you're out of such a thing the harder it is to break in.

Have y'all heard of the Diablo franchise. A friend of mine who knows these things say it's pretty good
Me too, I've been in 9ja for a while, very impractical here. I didn't care much for western style rpgs of all shapes and sizes either till this gen. I've heard very good things about diablo too.

Meh, I've nothing to offer on that topic, I hope I wasted your time. Lemme go tro... debate elsewhere.
IslamRe: Science And Faith by wiegraf: 3:29pm On Oct 30, 2012
^^^
Crap this political correctness fad. Before the advent of muslims (well, not just muslims actually) your clients were usually regarded as being those with the lowest iq, as a fact. So I am still somewhat not being bigoted in using them as a benchmark. Ok, I agree that may be debatable, but still. Besides, how was I to know chimps, let alone their alien lawyers, would actually waste their time reading a thread of this quality? I only get in these threads to gripe actually (well, I'm also completely retarded when it comes to managing my time). To be honest, I've not even read the op, and I doubt anyone other than the muslims have. Read the first paragraph, read the last one, you should be able to tell there's the chance your brain might melt a little from reading that.

Caught with my pants down, eh? I will get my lawyers ready....


Op seriously, you put the wrong word in quotes. It should be 'proof', not proof. There, I tried reading it again.
ProgrammingRe: Sending Sms Using Asp.net (c#) Through Http by wiegraf: 1:58pm On Oct 30, 2012
You're going to excuse me if I don't read through your post, my attention span won't allow it. But I'll mention it's a simple matter of the api/service which the sms provider gives you. I've used smslive247, 9ja based, and it gets the job done fairly easily. They'll give you a few trial sms's and documentation is on their site.

For your current code, just follow their instructions (assuming they provide documentation) and you should be fine

Kudos
Christianity EtcRe: Anti-gay Pastor Blames Hurricanes On Gays by wiegraf: 1:41pm On Oct 30, 2012
@crazy
And there are a lot more than the ones posted by @plat

A question for you, would you murder for god? No cop out god will never ask me to that, he already has (though he seems to have abrogated those laws, yet you still feel the need to cherry pick). So if you got all the 'signs' strongly indicating god wanted you to murder, would you do it?

Now, if you insist, or (claim to) know, god is good, then why in the world do you think god would want homosexuals killed? Or people who work on sabbath? Or those that eat shellfish etc? If you can't think up any proper reason, then are you just parroting what some pastor told you without even reflecting on it for yourself?

Think about this, if you're incapable of using your own moral meter by yourself, without outside influence, then you're probably a danger to society. Nazi doctrine was carried out by church going folk, as were most other genocides, the Islamic terrorists, stalin's policies by similarly brainwashed (just not going to church), etc, etc. So, how easy would it be for a pastor to get you to kill for god?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Christians Handle Miracles/magic In The Bible? by wiegraf: 1:18pm On Oct 30, 2012
Front page awesome imminent...
IslamRe: Science And Faith by wiegraf: 1:13pm On Oct 30, 2012
inurmind: You know I'm not the biggest fan of christians neither am I their usual advocate but I dont think its fair that muslims get to post anything they want here but nobody is even allowed in their section talkless creating threads or critisizing them.
Is part of my gripe, is all. Is this so difficult to understand? What's it called, equality? I can understand why this dross will be shipped off as well, most of the time the value of their posts is no more than what a chimp provided with a keyboard would produce. That's my issue with goading or encouraging them here, they have absolutely nothing to offer but the pis.s they love so much, spraying it all over the quality of the threads here.

Quality thread, sure, why in the world not? But all their threads break down to 'We are the muslims. We are superior, kaffirs. Just because. Prepare to be assimilated. Praise allah's goat's b***'s'. Wtf invite such retardation? No, really, wtf has anyone gained from reading this $hit?
PhonesRe: Phone Engineers On Nairaland Willing To Assist You - Part II by wiegraf: 12:35pm On Oct 30, 2012
fellis: I need help with a Samsung Duos android phone. It doesn't connect to the internet, it keeps showing the message, 'web connection not available'. I have network settings where they should be, have updated the phone, 3G is present and everything else that is necessary, yet it has failed to browse. Please what to do?
Fellis~chiiiiiiinnnnn

Some bro who knows what he's doing will eventually ansah, in the meantime you could start eliminating using logicking. What version of android? Just note it. What network/package? Do things like..

Try another sim, from another network preferably
Try another package
Try your sim in another phone

Etc etc. Basically isolate the problem. You done that yet?
Christianity EtcRe: Vampirism Is Real! Read The Testimony Of A Former Vampire Now Serving The Lord by wiegraf: 11:55am On Oct 30, 2012
@pastor
I have to respect your skill levels, I can't tell when you're trolling and when not. Perhaps you need a /religion interview?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God Called In The Arabic Translation Of The Bible? by wiegraf: 12:50am On Oct 30, 2012
davidylan: This is just desperate nonsense to be honest.



You seem to be confused and running around just to save face.



Again more irrelevant name calling when you find yourself without a valid point.
Ok
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 12:26am On Oct 30, 2012
F00028: don't have a cave. got me a duplex. cool
Good for you, really, but you know what I meant...
Christianity EtcRe: Muskeeto, Ihedinobi, Lb...lets Talk Here :-) by wiegraf:
@sight
Whoa....

So, aluu, your feelings towards jungle justice after your ordeal?

Random: do you know why they didn't consider the expats for ransom as well?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 11:52pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: blah...
blAH...
BLAH...!

if you have nothing of substance just move on. am not interested in a meaningless name calling match.
You seem confused, you'd have to post something with substance in order to get a meaningful reply.

I implore you not to play with logicboy, can't you go back to your cave?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God Called In The Arabic Translation Of The Bible? by wiegraf: 11:41pm On Oct 29, 2012
davidylan: I do have a point... you should have paid better attention to the rules.


Irrelevant. It didnt say what you thought so of course your point was nothing but an exercise in noise making.
Erm, yeah. In case you haven't noticed, you don't. I'd wait for a mod to confirm before getting carried away.

davidylan: But unfortunately your "exchange" was not made in a private email open only to logicboy.
So? I didn't ask you to ignore it, but you choose to ignore context, which is disingenuous. Unless you have some sort of comprehension problems

davidylan: Really you have no leg to stand on, perhaps why you keep bleating about "trolling". Amazing how i wasnt "trolling" as long as i focused my responses on the muslim dude... soon as i expose your sheer hypocrisy now you cry about trolling. Grow up.
Actually a lot of this would apply to you. You deny you don't have a reputation for being a troll? Considering all I've already pointed out, in the noise making I've made specifically because you insist on this continuing, how would I be wrong in assuming this is not another bout of davidylan syndrome?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 11:28pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: blah blah blah... go ahead and google it. if you find Muslims attacking the personality of Jesus Christ, holler at me.
No, not necessary. I just want you to understand that you are a mindless zombie who implies that he would also be an a$$ were it not for the programming done by his overlords. Top that with somehow rationalizing that you are somehow being gracious because you (maybe) don't mock some aspects of their culture, while blowing them up after stealing their ideas, demanding they give up their rights, being a complete douche with regards to other aspects of their culture, etc.

I don't need google for that, that was what I meant with that line.

Go back to your cave
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God Called In The Arabic Translation Of The Bible? by wiegraf: 11:01pm On Oct 29, 2012
davidylan: This is the rule actually - Religion: Share your faith and belief in God or higher powers here.

Where do you think atheists fall under that rule?
Curious, has it always said that? I could have sworn no. If it always has then you may have a point. Anyways, atheists would qualify as having no faith or belief in god,
we can still share that, no? Let's get a mod to confirm.

davidylan: Again you stray from the point to kick up irrelevant dust to use as a smokescreen for the fact that you are well aware that you and your ilk are regular trangressors of a rule you think should apply to muslims alone. Christians rarely have a bone to pick with muslims posting here... it was just strange and highly hypocritical to read an atheist crying that muslims be excluded from a section that explicitly reads - RELIGION.

To throw out the "trolling" adhominem is just absurd really. No one is picking a fight either... just making sure you realize that you have no right to demand someone else remove a mote in their eye while a huge log if firmly blocking the vision in yours.
Hush with the silly claims of ad hominems. If the header said what I thought it did all my points would be very valid. They probably still are even if I was mistaken about what it actually says considering the history of this section. In fact it seems like you are the one trying to distract the conversation.

Add to my earlier reply to you:
I'm not forcing anyone not to post here in case you didn't notice, I'm suggesting we (atheists) shouldn't go out of our way to encourage them to do so. And that is very much a matter left to each person, do I look like the owner of /religion?

You ignore that my exchange is with logicboy, who understands my shenanigans and would know I was being a bit facetious.

You also ignore the fact that while this indeed is the 'religion' section, muslims have their very own 'islam for muslim' section, I suppose so they can keep their cancer to themselves. In fact, topics made here that deal explicitly with islam are even transferred to that section, where they can wade into their ignorance (and probably get censored as well)

Coupled with your reputation, excuse me for thinking you were trolling. Now believe me, I'd rather get rid of your cancer as well, but I thought the rules forced us all together. It would seem you may be right though, and this place is meant only for people with faith. If that's confirmed, I'll gladly leave your cancer alone.

So, any mods around, is this place only for theists? The fact that one of them is not a theist would probably indicate the answer to that is no.

Are you really sure you're not trolling?
Christianity EtcRe: Anti-gay Pastor Blames Hurricanes On Gays by wiegraf: 10:19pm On Oct 29, 2012
Logicboy03: LMAO.....Is that the tactic? Blame someone else for Yaweh's mess-ups?
Through all of their history
Christianity EtcRe: Vampirism Is Real! Read The Testimony Of A Former Vampire Now Serving The Lord by wiegraf: 10:14pm On Oct 29, 2012
This is front page material
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God Called In The Arabic Translation Of The Bible? by wiegraf: 10:02pm On Oct 29, 2012
davidylan: Now just imagine how christians feel sometimes when they open their threads to discuss important theological issues only to be disrupted by you, logicboy and the likes. the hypocrisy here is astounding.
What? You're alarmed at having muslims spam this section? When you and your ilk have virtually ground what used to pass for decent debate here to a halt no thanks to your insistence on displaying your ignorance over and over and over again? I agree, its an open forum for sure but there is a reason this is the RELIGION section... i'm sure there is an area for those who arent religious to have a good time.
It says 'religion', right under it says discuss your belief, or disbelief, here. Did you miss that part? I don't make the rules, do I even give the impression I enjoy the current arrangement?

I rarely spam xtian-only threads david, look through my history if you will. When I do, it's usually inadvertent or because someone is being a menace to society, even then I'm out as soon as I can. Take your issues up with regular transgressors.

Frankly, methinks you're looking to pick a fight. Are you trolling?

On another note, what is this ignorance you speak of?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God Called In The Arabic Translation Of The Bible? by wiegraf: 9:22pm On Oct 29, 2012
Logicboy03: lol......surely, we can handle Maclatunji
He's not the only coming in... Have you seen the tripe coming in lately??

Imagine having a meal, then some idiot shows up and persists in showing you pictures of those dying, starving babies and children that illustrate just how far humanity has progressed. That's what it feels like with muslims insisting on displaying their ignorance, over and f**king over again. It's an open forum for sure, but these hypocrites have their very own special section because they are...unique (believe it or not they'll take that as a compliment). One can only do so much about starving babies, get them out!!
Christianity EtcRe: What Is God Called In The Arabic Translation Of The Bible? by wiegraf: 8:54pm On Oct 29, 2012
Logicboy03: I dare you to make more topics here on this section.
Is this is the reason for the recent upsurge in cancer? TAKE IT BACK! Seriously, what gives you the right to let in a $hitstorm. Close the gaddam door!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 8:33pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: did you see Jesus the Christ depicted in any of those cartoons?.
Ignoring the rest of my post? Anyways, I have many more questions for you.

I see, you're right, attack on jews are totally unrelated.
/sarcasm (I usually wouldn't add that, but I'm genuinely afraid you won't pick it up)


Judaism is not held sacredly to xtians? Heck, even to you guys? I would think the law would protect all other faiths, no? Oh wait, only those moh borrowed/stole from, I see. To give him some sort of legitimacy perhaps?

To elaborate, xtians specifically should be happy with mohammed's graciousness, all other faiths are exempt since he did not directly steal any of their ideas? They are all faiths deserving of some good slandering? Do you think xtians wake up, unprovoked, and think to themselves I'ma slander some of those hypocritical muslims today? Do you think anyone does? I ask because you seem to be implying it's okay to slander others so long as your religious overlords allows it. (On another note, do they also dictate to you how many times a day you can take a $hit?). So you wouldn't think twice about slandering someone were it allowed, yes? Like say the jews, hmmm. You hold back on jesus just because you were ordered to? I see....

I'm not even going to bother googling for xtian specific attacks by muslims
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 7:15pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: come on now. you mean to tell me you've never wondered why with all vile, slanderous attacks people of the christian faith launch on the personality of the Prophet, Muslims never return the favour? ...you thought maybe they were afraid if the holy ghost? undecided
No, not really no. Most are not slander, they are criticisms (which somehow translate to beheadings in barbarian-land). And a very nice chunk are valid, and very true. You also have the right to criticize and slander (good lucking you if you get to court though) the xtians. Like already mentioned, they'd rather you shouted at them than you blew them up, or beheaded them, enslaved their women, etc. It seems your responses to criticism are way above what would be appropriate, don't you think so? (You don't, I know.) Yet you sit here smugly implying you're the bigger man, taking pity on the poor serf xtians. When you eventually blow them, wouldn't you say that's quite passive-aggressive as well?

Anyways, where do you get the idea it's one sided?

http://cifwatch.com/2012/09/23/jewish-reaction-to-thousands-of-antisemitic-arab-cartoons-no-riots-no-injuries-no-deaths/
Christianity EtcRe: Have A Question For Dawkins? by wiegraf(op): 6:38pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: In 2012, in a video recorded discussion with
Rowan Williams Archbishop of Canterbury,
Richard Dawkins said he was 6.9 out of 7 of
sure that God does not exist and counted
himself as an agnostic.
He also more or else says that in his book, except he doesn't identify himself as agnostic. On a technical level, maybe so. But he also says the very vast majority of people who call themselves atheists are not full 7's, and he implies it might be impossible to be a full 7. His methodology is borrowed from alfred kinsey's scale designed for sexuality. In kinsey's scale, assuming 7 is fully homosexual and 0 is completely heterosexual, there is no one on the planet that is a full 7, or 0, everyone is bi. It's just a matter of degree, sort of apply that logic here. In other words, you're agnostic as well using this reasoning, we all are. Anyhow he assumes if you're 6.9 (in fact, from lower, like 5), for all intents and purposes you are an atheist. You live your daily life with a complete disregard for gods. I would say I'm 6.9 as well. He's an atheist, ask him for yourself.

F00028: no, I am not. why would you think that?
Hmm, I would think because of your sudden interest in a somewhat dead thread. Why do you even pretend otherwise?




Edits
Christianity EtcRe: "Thou Shall Not Kill" But? by wiegraf: 5:46pm On Oct 29, 2012
Logicboy03: The hypocrisy of the old testament

Thou shall not kill but;


Thou shall kill witches (Exodus 22:17)

Thou shall kill homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13)

Thou shall kill fortune tellers (Leviticus 20:27)
This god guy sef...

What of all those eediots that eat shell fish and work on sabbath?
Christianity EtcRe: Have A Question For Dawkins? by wiegraf(op): 4:08pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: I have a question:
being the agnostic he claims how can he honestly refer to the idea of God as a delusion"
You are supposed to ask him, not me or the thread, the question.

He doesn't claim to be agnostic. The delusion bit is a simple but long story, read the synopsis on wiki.


You aren't here simply because of that farce of a thread you opened, are you?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 3:58pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: yes...you got it.
That's nice to know bro. So pls explain to the xtian bros out there how were it not for tenets set by moh, tenets he had no issue taking from various other cultures, primarily theirs and that of the jews, you'd spend the whole day insulting them. I can see just what a d1ck you'd be without religion, and of course how grateful xtians should be to moh for his mercy.


Do note I'm not claiming to not be a d1ck myself
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude. by wiegraf: 2:48pm On Oct 29, 2012
F00028: @inurmind

if you cant make sense out of:

"Christians Owe The Prophet Muhammad A Debt Of Gratitude...."
"...OTHERWISE can you imagine an exchange about Jesus Christ where the Muslim tongue wasn't restrained by the Qur'an?

then this thread is not for you. you best move on.
Un-f**king-believable. I get it now, but I wish I didn't. How f**king stoopid can you be?
TV/MoviesRe: The Most Violent Anime You've Ever Watched? by wiegraf: 1:41pm On Oct 29, 2012
PhysicsQED: Same here basically. In fact, the only reason I even know what an emulator or a rom is today is because of how I got into that stuff some years back (like 6 or 7 years ago) in order to play old rpgs (mostly Squaresoft) that were "before my time" (before the time of classic PS1 and PS2 rpgs, many/most of which were also made by Squaresoft) and which I'd never played or in some cases never heard of but which others kept swearing were classic. FF6, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Star Ocean, Seiken Densetsu 3, Tales of Phantasia, Terranigma, FF5, FF4 etc. FF6 alone was worth it and those other games were the icing on the cake. I have some good memories from back then, and of course, I got to play other classic/great stuff besides just the RPGs I originally intended to play. . .those were the days - back when it seemed like I had endless amounts of free time.
And I missed those too. The only ones I progressed reasonably well with were ff6 and 4. 6 I completed, and I find it stunning how so much emotion could be conveyed by sprites and mono music, especially the opera scene and Terra's(?) jump from the cliff. There's also kefka. 4 was rather funny, can't remember why I had to stop. White Knight, old hermit mentors and twins(?) for the win. The others I only just touched.... sad

PhysicsQED: Interesting. Now I'm really thinking I missed out on one of square's best games. And I looked up some more of Wiegraf's quotes and he comes off as pretty unique for an adversary.
*spoilers*
But I doubt you'll have the time to play it anyway., at least that's how it is with me these days. You also kill wiegraf's sister, whom he obviously adored. And what was their cause? They were trying to free the masses from the nobility. Considering the main xter is nobility, that pretty much makes you, the player, the bad guy in my books. But of course it's much more complicated than that, ramza (the main char) didn't have much of a choice, it was just something that needed doing.

Seriously, these games, like the first suikoden on the ps2, it had like 4 or 5 major factions, you use characters from 3 of these factions and play through the same events, seeing the situation through their various perspectives. Iirc, you even kill off allies you used yourself in other main char chapters. Grandia 2 you spend the whole game thinking you're on the side of good. By the end, the good god, which has an organization backing it up eerily similar to the catholic church, is shown to rather, well actually extremely, evil. The hero spends the whole game traveling searching for a legendary weapon, when he eventually found it in his backyard I was like..."oh, oh $hit...oh, but that was perhaps obvious". I was seriously pumped up after I found that muthaf****r as well, lots of hypocrites (including a god) I gleefully saw to with that baby. Xenosaga (plenty xtian references here as well, evangelion style), breath of fire (particularly 4, 5 was real boss as well), chrono cross... All these gave me, and I was younger, something to think about. Even the mainstream popular sephiroth I loved not just because he could kill a dragon with 2 swipes, while taking time out of his busy schedule to keep my weak a$$ alive no less, but because his cause was actually not such a bad one. It all went horribly wrong, of course smiley

The best jrpgs are now on the xbox... Dammit sony... Meh, anyways I don't have the time anymore, and there were some that were real poor, not many though.

PhysicsQED: That's a pretty blatant anti Christian theme. Surprising that a video game would be so bold, but then again, Japan isn't rooted in the Judeo-Christian worldview, so criticizing Yahweh wouldn't offend too many people.

This reminds me a little of a game that came out recently this year (I only started playing it recently) called Asura's Wrath, where the main adversary (at least at first) is a powerful, ruthless thunderbolt wielding demi-god called "Deus" (the Latin word for God) who has a huge number of humans killed in order to amplify his own power with their energy/souls. But he's supposedly not truly a villain in the game because the actions he and his co-conspirators take are for a supposedly greater overall good. The "anti-God" theme of the game is also less obvious because the "God" of the game is more like Zeus than YHWH. The game isn't really an RPG, but more action-adventurish like the God of War and Ninja Gaiden games, but it seems to have heavy manga/anime influences. If they had made the main adversary resemble YHWH rather than Zeus (who has far fewer followers today) or said he was YHWH explicitly the game probably wouldn't have been released in the West either.
Heh heh... Interesting how a culture that's foreign to the xtian world would view yahweh, judged by his morals/actions, as the ultimate villain. He is more or else the supreme villain of all SMT games as well. Considering they use a very large array of myths (shame on you africa, great work there promoting your culture) and are in fact famous for their knowledge of said myths, that's quite the honor heaped on yahweh. They don't mention him out in the open anymore though, western cash is good I suppose.

Yahweh sure does give us atheists plenty ammo to use on even decent xtians like @vess or yourself (assuming you're xtian, I gather you're a theist), even though I'm sure y'all are actually more decent than I am. Talk less of the bigots, dohohoohohohoho.
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Christians Handle Miracles/magic In The Bible? by wiegraf: 10:50am On Oct 29, 2012
Ja, ja, this is a fun thread. But.t ra.ping logic a-plenty. We have a nice count as well, most xtians believe talking snakes existed because a story book says so. Whowouldathunk!
PoliticsRe: Why Does Everyone Make Such A Big Deal Of Igbos Migrating To Other Regions? by wiegraf: 10:13am On Oct 29, 2012
There is talk of how germany and japan failed to conquer the world during 2nd world war. There is also talk of how they were able to successfully conquer (sort of) the world via other means after that failure, mostly financial.

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