₦airaland Forum

Pimine:
Aswearugaaad

Brother thank you for your input.

You are welcome. We are all in this mess together.

Now it is criminal and quite malicious to tell people not to feel aggrieved when you have given them a name they do not bear, meanwhile the Fulani herdsmen who have even outdone the dreaded Boko Haram are being treated as kings.

There is no problem with feeling aggrieved, the problem is how you act on the aggrievement.
A rightfully aggrieved wife might murder her husband, that does not exonerate her from the death penalty. There are legal or strategic means of showing her aggrievements.

It's no news that the government have failed either by ommission or commission with the Fulani herdsmen issue, even the US and other international bodies have acknowledged that. The next step is to now strategically tackle the issue. You see the York Yorubas have taken strategic steps to confront the Fulani menace by instituting Amotekun. The governors and political leaders coalesced to form the security outfit. The Fulani biased government first challenged the legality of the regional outfit. This forced the Governors to change it to states outfit backed by laws from the state assemblies. You see the issue is akin to a chess game.

Now on the issue of making progress, what do you think would have been the right approach?Please don't mention the Eastern governors - those guys are soulless. We have been clamoring for our own security outfit for a long a while now, but it's quite obvious that the security of their people is of no importance to them.

Even though the Governors are soulless, they are the best option you have. They are the one with the legal and political mandate to secure the states, and they have the necessary resources to fund the organisations.
So my suggestion is to take the "@endsars#" route or "@bring back our girls#" route. Even though lots of youths lost their lives, they got what whey were asking for. SARS was disbanded, panels were constituted in each state to look into human rights abuse by SARS, police salaries were increased, etc. When last did you see police harass youths in flashy cars or with dreadlocks? The Buhari government has actually lost legitimacy in the international community and if not for the coronavirus virus pandemic that has distracted most western country, the buhari government would have been under serious sanctions by now.

Most people just criticize without a better alternative.
So what would you have done better? I'm hoping to hear your view on this.

I advice you guys to employ civil disobedience, peaceful protests and social media campaigns to get the Governors to secure the lives of easterners.

Pimine:
Aswearugaaad

I read your comments really well before responding.

My point is this: does it look like the eastern govs give a hoot about their people?
Is it when we're all dead that they would act? Should we wait until such a time that we can't step foot in our own hometowns cos they've been overrun by the rampaging Fulani herdsmen?

The Nigerian government has been killing IPOB for years now. This would have been enough for any other group to pay them back in their own coin since that is the language they understand. And Boko Haram has demystified the Nigerian Army and shown us that they ain't shit when you face them fire for fire.

But IPOB has never been and will never be a terrorist organization.

The Nigerian government is the terrorist not IPOB, and people like you are the ones giving them GINGER.

That's according to IPOB and it's supporters, but according to Nigerian law, IPOB is a terrorist organization. It has been gazetted. So unless the government removes it from our laws and the official gazette, IPOB remains a terrorist organization in Nigeria. It just like the Gulen Movement in Turkey. It is a terrorist organization in Turkey but it's not in the US.

You guys need to learn to separate your emotions from reality if you want to make any progress.

ada9ja:
this alone shows u dont understand me at all.....u re just defending IPOB blindly

My sister, he will start calling you efulefu or afonja soon.
IPOB members behave like Trump supporters, they believe kanu is the only lord and saviour of the igbo race. At least Trump has constitutional powers to do all he does - rightly or wrongly. Who gave kanu the powers he wants to wield?

IPOB members that there are no other recognisable authority in igbo land except kanu. Governors- the don't recognise, other political leaders - they dispise, traditional rulers nko - they ignore. If IPOB was led by an intelligent strategist, he would have gathered his millions of supports to government house, state assemblies and traditional palaces to compel the Governors to spend the billions of naira allocated for security votes to actually provide security. Each of them can former their own security outfit according to extant laws and the merge them or a unit to collaborate on the security of the East in general.

I feel this is just a stunt by Kanu to collect dues from helpless easterners by saying he needs money to run the security outfit. Establishing and running a security outfit is a very expensive venture. You need huge funds to pay the volunteers (besides you need to feed and house them and provide for their welfare) and buy equipments like vehicles, weapons and communication gadgets. How long do you think he can sustain the outfit on public donation and dues?

gidgiddy:
Really? And which law set up OPC , Civilian JTF and operation Shege? Self defence is a universally recognised right. Nobody is to wait for the useless SE/SS Governors to do the needful

That's the only legal authority you have to work with. Any other unrecognised body would be termed terrorist.

OPC as a security outfit was banned by OBJ. Civilian JTF was formed by the FG. A collaboration between the army and local militia.

ensamy:
Atleast East has ESN that the marauding Fulani herdsmen are scared of. Even if it's illegal as haters say. Whenever they remember ipob ,they will retreat.

That's my issue with my eastern in laws, they always fight the right causes the wrong way.

What happens after the marauding Fulani herdsmen are no more or long intervening periods when there are no attacks. Kanu will turn the security network on his fellow igbo men, the ones that oppose him or don't agree with his vision, the ones he calls "efulefu". That's not if he does not turn them against the Nigerian state.

The Governors can be terrible, but at least they are limited by other state apparatus like the legislature and Judiciary apart from oversight by the federal government. Who will control Kanu and IPOB if they get instruments of violence?

RedPanthar:
Adresss issues and not personalities. How is Amotekun different from ESN/Hisbah? I'm not igbo but can use my head. Use yours

Simple answer. Hisbah and Amotekun was constituted by governors, who are the chief security officers of the state. Under which authority did Kanu constitute a state or regional security organisation?

Ok. If ESN arrests fulani herdsmen or others commiting crimes, what will be their next course of action? Do they have the power to prosecute them?

Yes, a security outfit is seriously required for the eastern region, but a banned organizational led by a fugitive is not the person to create and run it. Easterners should demand that the Governors should actually do their job.

HerMajestyCares:
You mean you are giving a whole over 200 million Nigerians 6 weeks to register ,

Not 200 million. At least one quarter of that 200 million is less than 18 years ( I don't know the mandatory age for registration). Out of the remaining 140 million, NIMC said they have registered about 30 million since they started registration 7 years ago. That leaves the number yet to register at about 110 million. Let assume N100 million for sake being generous.

This simply means NIMC is required to register 100 Nigerians between now and February 9th 2021 ( 35 days excluding weekends), which translate to 2.85 million registrations every working day.

Timiofak:
Just like the flu

Yes. Herd immunity.

musicwriter:
Very simple.

Because religion is a disease that destroys the rational use of the mind. It harvests emotion from the believer and uses it against the person in most cases.

If you believe your God is the supreme creator of the universe and there's something he finds you worthy to do, you'll do it happily even if it means killing yourself. Its the same reason Boko Harams and ISIS blast themselves in the name of their God. This's even small.

Ever heard of Jim Jones; Guyana mass suicide by Christians?

In 1978, about 1,000 Christians committed suited at once because their pastor Jim Jones said that's what God wanted them to do. See documentary below. Free yourselves from religion, people!!.

Jim Jones- Jamestown tragedy in Guyana. Mass suicide by Christians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO8aYSApnng

This was the tv series that made me question Christianity and religion in general. It made a very long lasting impression on me. It shows me that the human mind can be made to believe just about anything, no matter how stupid or insane.

All religions have elements of insane beliefs that makes sense only to the believer but sounds stupid to people of other religions.

Kobojunkie:
What has Babylon to do with this now?

Actually, in the more civilised nations, the women would in fact be able to suck that man of his last blood in court to teach him to be less selfish in his desire to "fill the earth" with his "kind". The idiot no fit buy condom use?

What he meant was that this is not a case of rape, since the ladies agreed willingly without force. Unless any of the girls are underage. But then underage is even not very defined in Nigeria.

Even in more civilised nations, he cannot get charge for rape. If taken to court for the children's maintenance, I am sure he will not be able to pay for all 20 children, so must likely he will end in jail for defaulting.

WAECMATHEMATICS:
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/05/30/enugu-pastor-arrested-for-impregnating-20-church-members/

Stale news

So?

State to you. But, to many of us, it's fresh news.

Omo, it's a good policy, but then every good policy is subject to abuse.

bigtt76:
Exactly but a bad policy.

1. It's recognizing the black market and legit helping to channel forex there.

Whether it's recognise black market or not black market is a fact you can't wish away. It's will always be there.

2. The black market would get saturated at a point in time because no business man or woman would go there to source forex for business and the black marketers would not sell to the banks at the CBN rate

If that happens, then that effectively destroys or eliminate the black market, which has been the goal of the CBN for decades

3. Naira in circulation would be mopped up at a point in time resulting in the dollarization of the economy (no one would want tk be paid in naira)

This is a good thing as there will be more supply of dollars than naira, leading to a rise in the value of the naira. Remember we imports most of our consumer and even industrial goods from oversees and in dollars. So, cost of goods will fall and inflation will fall.

4. At the end of the day, beneficiaries would have no option but to exchange with the banks or hoard in their domiciliary accounts.

That is also good. Banks have been ripping customers off by forcing them to exchange their dollars sent from abroad at extremely low rates, and then selling it back to them at extremely high rates.

Hammergirl:
I don't get it. Is it that the girls don't have sense or what. Can't they tell when something is real or not. So because he is a man of God you should take everything he says. I dey wait for one pastor to tell me say holy spirit say or e no say,na hot water go follow am. Gullible grown up idiots.

That na because you never jam desperate situation. If you and your pikin never chop for 3 days or you don't dey clock 40 you never marry or after 15 years of marriage you never miss period for one month. You go do anything pastor or babalawo say make you do.

These pastors are predators that wait for the most vulnerable and psychologically wounded prey.

PrideofLincoln2:
You always have few traitors in any country and America is no exception. Trump's a traitor to America and he is a subject of Putin and that is why I used to refer to him before as Benedict Don. Like I said earlier, Putin has a big hold on him and slot of Republican Senators and Congressmen. Imagine if a Democrat is in the Presidency and this hackings happened, Republicans will shiiiting in their pants calling for all kind of investigations but overwhelming majority of them are hushed up for whatever reasons.

I think the US has more than a few traitors. The whole Republicans Party seems to be prepared to betray the US for power and financial gains.

How do you explain 73 million votes given these treasonable acts- the bounty to kill US service men in Afghanistan, the Ukraine quid quo pro scandal, the Helsinki scandal where Trump actually said he believed Putin over the US intelligence services and opening up US cybersecurity security to Putin?

Chapter1vs6:
Lol ride on pastor. Nothing will stop procreation and propagation of the word.

By the way it beats me to understand how a woman that is very rude and disrespectful to her husband rever and worship their pastors. I really don't understand how the pastors do it. What's the trick behind this?

The same trick that they use to collect 10% of the salaries of otherwise intelligent men and women.

It's also the same trick yahoo boys use in collecting money from mugus.

Just promise extraordinary rewards for small tokens (money or services ).

LogoDesignerzz:
Meanwhile I yet to get the one I registered since 2015

Does not matter. If you registered with the phone you are currently using, just dial *346# with that number and then 1 on the pop up message. You NIN will display on your phone.

feedthenation:
Trump claims China 'may' have been behind cyber attack after Pompeo says it was ‘pretty clearly’ Russia


President Trump on Saturday claimed China "may" have been behind a massive cyberattack on U.S. government systems -- a day after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the attack was "pretty clearly" perpetrated by Russians.

Trump downplayed the attack, dubbed by one U.S. official as "the worst hacking case in the history of America," as "far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality /https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-china-cyber-attack-pompeo-russia

---Security briefing with Trump must be very chaotic---I pity his advisers---

Trump virtually gave Putin the key to the US cybersecurity.

I used to think US citizens were super patriotic (no thanks to Hollywood ), but now I realize that in a war between US and Russia, many Americans will fight on the side of Russia.

Arrewa:
Lies!

Sahara reporters is truly in a war with the Fulani Nation!

There's no doubt about that...

This fake news was refuted by Saleh, Masari's Aid.

Sahara reporters are not just only at war with buhari's government but with his tribe as well.

Imagine associating criminals kidnapping on behalf of the government to a social cultural group.

The downfall of Sahara reporters is very near...

nairaland bigots food don dorn...

Read through the comment and you'll see stereotypes and insulting of a whole tribe because of fake news.

If You like stereotype and insult us from now till eternity,it won't change nothing.

The jallohs have developed a thick skin against your hate, lies and Propaganda.

God bless the Jallohs!!

Sorry to say, but if you are actually Fulani, then you are doing more to sabotage the Fulanis than helping them.

Fulanis were accused of kidnapping over 500 little boys, you did not come out to condemn the very act. Anybody that goes about kidnapping little kids are worse than animals, because even animals are known to protect their young.

Fulanis and Muslims were accused of cutting off the heads of over 50 innocent men, that simple went to earn a few naira for their families. No condemnation from you, your tribe or your religious leaders. You were all silent. The guys were even said to be shouting Allahu Akbar before slashing the throats of innocent men, no religious leader can out to condemn them and disown them.

But, Saharareporters came up with a story accusing the kidnappers of being members of meyitti allah ( not even the mayetti allah itself) and all hell breaks lose - Sahara reporters is at war with Buhari, Fulanis, Islam, etc. Meanwhile, those that are killing, kidnapping and ransacking whole villages in the north are at peace with Buhari, Fulanis and Islam, abi?

Viknat:
Which one church dey do program for suicide death. That's hypocrisy. He is forever dead. He will not be resurrected on last day as na suicide he commit

You are the one that is displaying hypocrisy here. Abi na you hold the keys to the gate of hell as Bishop Oyedepo claimed before the 2016 elections. You are not the one that will determine those that will be resurrected on the last day (according to the bible).

Besides, depression is a serious mental disease that is seriously underestimated in this country. Suicide thoughts and attempts most times are symptoms of underlying serious mental health issues and not necessary due to lack of success, material possessions or affection.

LoyalHustler1:
Best president ever.

Abortion is not health.

Abortion is killing of babies.

MAGA

by the order of Ishawuru.

Is that so? What about herd immunity you guys are implementing as per the coronavirus pandemic, is that not deliberately killing of adults? Coronavirus kills about 2 - 4% of the population, so you guys are ready to sacrifice up to 6 million of the US population to achieve herd immunity.

Before I forget, you guys are also pro death penalty.

So much for pro life.

You guys are pro Christian fundamentalist and not pro life.

LZAA:
No think am o
Those guys have complete database,private investigatiors who do complete background checks that will make dss look like boy scouts
Africa and south America on the other hand barely bother because they want to make it into the game
As per ur cousin being 33 and playing 90 mins well that's because he's not playing professional football
If u play on a real professional pitch you will understand why half time lasts 15 mins

No mind am, comparing street football with professional football. Even professional football get grade. Play 15 mins of champion league, you go no say football is different from soccer. You see big teams playing champion league football on Wednesday and by the time they play local league on Sunday, they lose or barely scrap a win because of fatigue.

World cup football is also very difficult and demanding on the footballer.

budaatum:
I don't believe you. A person who studies sciences would never ever talk about facts and evidence the ignorant way that you do!

Don't mind him, he has a degree in physics, but he had never mentioned anything to do with physics or science for that matter in any of his posts. He talks like a science illiterate peddling pseudo science conspiracies.

He is so obsessed with Islam that 100% of his posts were about his hatred of Islam. His recent posts are about his delusions about the Deification of Trump. He believes Trump can bend natural laws like Jesus. He believes Trump will magically alter the result of the elections and will miraculously be sworn in on Jan 3rd 2021.

I am 1000% sure I know more physics that he will ever do.

Trump Last Grasp Effort To Overturn The Results Of The Elections.

Poetic Justice.

budaatum:
Not only "the blackman" wiri. There are many ignorant magas who are not black but know not that to the slaughter they are led.

The ignorant magas can be excused. I can understand the grouse of an ignorant white illiterate American male. He is finding out that their overwhelming demographic superiority is dwindling with every wave of migration. He is unable to compete for jobs with incoming migrants as he does not process the skills required for the 21st century. He simply cannot compete with his counterpart in Asia who are more skilled and ready to receive less pay. He is afraid of open market for goods and services. I perfectly understand their support for Trump and his anti immigration and anti free trade and even racist policies.

What defies logic is a blackman in one poverty stricken village in Nigeria or who merely made it out of Nigeria due to previous liberal policies, to now be a strong supporter of anti immigration and anti free trade, and worst of all to suddenly become racist hating his own very race. What are his motivation? It just doesn't make sense.

Ibeme:
Nazis were defeated in 1945 when Soros was 14/15 years old. So he was confiscating properties at 14? It's like your whole existence on this earth is to regurgitate baseless and disgusting lies. You should donate your brain to charity. It serves no purpose in your skull.


Yes, he did short the Sterling in 1992 and made £1bln for it. He is a legend in Wall street because of it. It is called a Put Option and is a legitimate financial instrument.

The one that shocked me most was "He broke the bank of England". I am still understand what that means. Did he physically break into the bank of England to steal billions of pounds or he hacked into the bank?
How come he did not break into the Bank of America. If he could break into the Bank of England, I am sure he would have also been able to break into the Bank of America.

Then how come the Bank of England didn't go after him to recover their billion of pounds back?

Timiofak:
I try to blame it on illiteracy initially, till I saw doctors and lawyers, buying into that rubbish. Then my next recourse was religion

Some of them is religion, but majority of them. Are just point blank foolish.

It's goes beyond foolishness. It a reflection of how our economic model evolved. Our trade with the outside world was predicated on betrayal of your people. For you to be a successful businessman you have to betray your people. You are either required to help sell your brothers and sisters into slavery or your help the foreign merchants steal your common resources and treasures. Since were were not producing goods to be used to trade with the Europeans and Arabs, the smart ones traded with their people, resources and treasures.
That created a business class predicated on selling out your people. Even China has caught unto this economic model by getting African leaders and politicians to sell their people's natural resources and treasures cheaply for personal gains.

An average African therefore feels the needs to show enough disdain or hatred for his people and his race before he or she can be socially or economically accepted by the former colonialist.

GidiCars:
First, they should take over the ports in the core South and make sure they have a stockpile of weapons. The Nigerian armed forces ain't shit.

If Shi'ite group in Abuja then had support, they'd probably have killed buhari and burutai by now. Nigerian military can only flex on armless citizens, when they meet their match, them go Melo.

Starting a war in a small, isolated, overcrowded and overpopulated area like the South East is sheer foolishness.

orisa37:
ipob-floats-security-outfit-for-south-east-south-south.


As a matter of fact, all our 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATE GOVERNMENTS past and present are GUILTY OF CRIMINAL AND CONTRIBUTORY NEGLIGENCE ON NIGERIA SECURITY ARCHITECTURE.

Gbam.
For IPOB to be the one to form a security outfit to protect the lives and properties of South East citizen shows that the Governors have abdicated their core responsibility and have become irrelevant.

Even though I have never supported Nnamd Kanu for the way he had been spewing insults on other tribes up and down and for openly advocating for violence, he seems more effective than those lame duck governors in gaining the trust of the ordinary people.
I will just advice him to form a political party or support one of the numerous political parties and use that platform to mobilize people and promote his agenda. That was how Aung San Suu Kyi did it against the military in Myanmar and how Macron did it in France.

Ibeme:
Spent my evening reading about George Soros and Steve Bannon

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon


It is fair to say that any black man who does not admire George Soros is a complete fool, and any black man who joins hands with the ideas espoused by Steve Bannon and Trump is the same.

One is a highly intelligent humanist with a passion for people while the Steve Bannons (Shapiros, Milos, Papadopoulos) and most of Trump's friends on the far-right are grifters with unpalatable pasts

You underestimate the stupidity of the black man. The blackman has self hate and self destructive tendencies. The more you try to help the blackman the more he hates you. If you feed, cloth and house a blackman he will still find reason to hate you. He will tell others you are helping him because you are using his destiny to do juju or God is blessing you so you can bless him. So he sees himself doing you a favour by allowing you to help him. I have experienced this on a personal level many times. I have helped a friend in need by giving him a room in my house, fed him for 2 years and gave him money to set up a business. Even though he had many family members in lagos doing well. At the end of the day, I became his number one enemy.

Imagine, many Nigerians loving Trump to death despite his record of hating blacks and black nations, but hating Biden who was instrumental to helping end apartheid.

Imagine Nigerians hating Soros who had contributed to many black causes but loving Banon a known white supremacist.

Imagine Nigerians hating Bill Gates, who almost singlehandedly eliminated polio in the whole of Africa but loving Trump who had never done a charity work in his life not to talk of spending his wealth on Africa.

That's why I don't blame government officials that are cruel to their people. It seems the more cruel they are the more they are loved and admired by the poor helpless population. Anyone that sacrifices himself to elevate the poor would be hated and called all sorts of names.

This self hatred and self destruction mental disease seems to afflict only the blackman, it's rarely seen in other races, ie Asians, Caucasians or even Arabs.

Dapcity007:
My knowledge on American conservatism seems as white supremacy ,buts its not, core ideologies of the republican party are very good like pro life, pro gun, anti illegal immigration, no racist element at all

I have always associated conservatism with extremism - both religious and political. It connotes intolerance of other people's religion, race, political views and social positions, especially the poor.
Furthermore conservatism cannot thrive in a proper democracy, where everyone is expected to have the same rights and no one is above the law. Conservatism thrives under dictatorship like monarchical, theocratic, fascist or military former of government.

Now how can you both be prolife and pro gun? What are guns used for? You should say you are anti abortion and pro gun. Because the life of the fetus is the only important life to religious conservatives. They are prolife but support the death penalty, they support wars, they support the making of vaccines with stem cells taken from fetal matter.

How can you be anti immigration and still claim not being racist? Most immigrants are people of other races. The US itself is a nation founded and developed by immigrants. The irony is that the same Nigerians that says that they are against immigration are the same that never stay in their ancestral home, but have emigrated all over the nation and all over the world.

DEMZEE:
U are a supporter of anti marriage and anti children and anti love

But I'm very sure u are for pro gay marriage,family and love

Pathetic

How can I be anti marriage when I am happily married, anti children when I have 3 lovely children and anti love when I love my wife?

I am neither pro or anti gay. Whatever people I have no relationship or link to do with their genitals is their own business. As long as rape or paedophilia is not involved.