₦airaland Forum

DeepSight:
Oga, when the cost of subsidy jumped from under 300 billion in a few years to over 6 trillion, that should have been enough to tell you that brazen thievery, and not the subsidy itself, is the problem.

And so long as that remains the nature of Nigeria, be assured that any sums you imagine will be saved by the removal of subsidy in Nigeria, will be quickly and rapaciously re-looted, just as all repatriated loot has been re-looted. If you dont know and understand this, then you haven't started.



The removal of the subsidy impoverished Nigerians far more than anything you are talking about. The drastic jump in the cost of living meant that every N100 each Nigerian had automatically became about N30. You really don't understand what has been done to the people, the hardship that has been imposed, and the thousands who have died as a consequence.

As far as the refineries are concerned, many trillions over the years have been allocated to them. All those sums were stolen and that is a function of corruption and not subsidies.

The people who preach removal of subsidies to us subsidize many things in their own societies heavily.

Don't mind them. Most likely they are government workers or government apologies whose duty is to defend government policies at all cost. We have been removing petrol subsidy since IBB, and it seems the more we remove subsidy, the more money used for subsidy grows. During Obasanjo who removed subsidy twice, the amount spent was less than a N100 billion. During Jonathan with all the subsidy thievery and corruption, the amount on subsidy was about N3 trillion. Now under Tinubu who completely removed subsidy on the first day in office, the amount spent on subsidy so far is 7 trillion, and he had not even spent a full year in office. What this tell us is that as long as we import petrol, the money spent on subsidy would keep on growing.

I want you to listen to this presentation by PLO Lumumba, he eloquently elaborates on the miseducation of Africans and the challenges we face from colonisation and neo-colonisation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwufamTpQXc?si=H_HU-UAIXpySdgfh

Tianamen1:
If you know we tax lower, why are you fighting for the removal of subsidies as opposed to raising taxes? The two policies are vastly different?

That's because raising taxes would affect the rich far more than the poor. How many of the elites pay taxes commensurate to their wealth?

In Nigeria the government favours the elites to the detriment of the poor. We practice elitocrasy - government of the elites by the elites for the elites.

Lavor234:
I know for sure tuition is free in most Scandinavian countries

Not just Scandinavian countries, education is free in Russia, most countries of the Middle east, most of Europe, China, Japan and even Canada up till secondary school level.
Below are countries offering free or very cheap education to their citizens- https://www.onlinecollegeplan.com/what-countries-offer-free-college/

DeepSight:
You're not annoying and you don't make a mess. I find you extra ordinarily polite.

My issue is simple. I am still flabbergasted that anyone believes subsidies are the source of corruption in this country.

My brother you can't blame them, it due to decades of deliberate miseducation and indoctrination by IMF and World Bank.
How subsidies is the source of corruption is part of their economic theories taught to Africans but not taught to Scandinavia, Europe, Canada, the Middle east and other western nations. In most of those countries education is highly subsidised. Even in Russia education is almost free up till university level. Food also is highly subsidised with heavy subsidies to farmers. The worst is CAPITAL. In all these countries, capital to entrepreneurs are highly subsidised. Imagine interest rates of 1 to 5%, and you get a moratorium of up to 3 years before you start repayment.
IMF and world Bank would never cite bogus white elephant projects as the cause of our problem, they would never cite our 70% recurrent expenditure to 30% capital, which is usually misappropriated anyway. They would never theorise that billions and billions of dollars that is simply stolen/transferred out of our coffers and deposited in their banks is source of our underdevelopment. All they shout is subsidy, subsidy and subsidy.
They know that plunging the mass of the population into abject poverty is the surest means of causing instability. They know that a poor, hungry man is a tool for causing chaos. They understand that poverty along with religion leads to insurgency, militancy and conflicts. They had the experience during the revolutions in Europe and America where the poor caused so much instability. If you know how much the US spent during the great depression and even during Covid19, to subsidise the masses, you will understand they have sinister motives when they preach anti-subsidy doctrine to us.

CSTRR:
China for all their noise, started to develop under Deng Xioping.

Who is Deng Xioping?
He was a brilliant administrator who opened up china to western investments, after decades of closure to the world which started under Mao.

Western investments and companies flowed in , and china became rich.

That's the story of china. It became rich because of America.

But somewhere in West Africa, countries are closing themselves to the west.

But China also closed itself to the west for centuries. When China opened up, it only restricted western trade and influence to a few port cities. China was at no time completely subjugated and overwhelmed by Western culture and influence.

The West had shown and still shows pure disdain and disregard for West Africa. Meanwhile we worship and adore them. We swallow all the insults and disdain with pride as long as they give us aid and Visa.

Please watch this interview by Harold Smith on why they handed power to the north through fraudulent elections and census. They prevent competent and patriotic leaders capable of developing the country from rising to power and promote mediocre and corrupt unpatriotic leaders, who bring their countries into ruin. This was the same situation all over west Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSbMescYwc?si=1nd1g5TCnsz8x8df
The seeds of that fraudulent election and census remains with us till today, and are factors that will never allow Nigeria rise above its current mediocre state.

I decided to post the full interview to reveal the plans of the British for Nigeria at independence.

ON the other hand, over 50 years of subsidy are why we are not self sufficent in fuel and in power supply.

Sadly things cost money. Removing subsidy would enable domestic companies pay for stuff to make services better...which is good for Nigeria in the long run, and gasp...makes us less dependent , if not free from IMF.

False! Repeating the same lie over and over again can never make it true. The reason we are not self sufficient in fuel and power supply is CORRUPTION and STEALING by those saddled with managing our resources. It has nothing and I Repeat nothing to do with subsidy.

Obasanjo spentb $16 billion and was only able to add just over 1000MW into the grid.

In the last 10 years, Nigeria spent N25 billion to repair our refineries without producing a litre of petrol, this is despite billions of dollars stolen in the fuel subsidy scam, and you guys are shouting subsidy is the problem.

SuccessfulRichi:
It Will never make your economy to get better bro. Control your resources black race. Venezuela did the same with Americans. Replaced them with china and Russia today they are begging USA to come back. Go and read their history.

We are in a better position to get better deals as we are now like a lady with two or even three potential suitors. We place our demand before each of them and go along with the best. The problem is that we have very selfish and unpatriotic leaders. They are still behaving like local chiefs in pre-slavery Africa that sold their own people for mandane material things like mirrors, hats and umbrellas. Our present leaders make stupid deals for stupid personal gains, and then relocate to countries of these colonialists after betraying their people.

Botragelad:
Are you ignorant or just against the US? International relations are changing. There's work being done, not perfect mind you, to create fairer partnerships.

Why get so emotional and personal? Does your loyalty lie more with the US than Nigeria?

Ever come across the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA)? It's this initiative to open up the US market to eligible countries in Sub-Saharan Africa. These efforts are meant to boost economic growth and development that's beneficial for both sides. Are you aware of the amount of aid the US and other organisations send to Africa? You lot are still benefiting from free vaccines and such.

AGOA is just like curing cerebral malaria with paracetamol. How can we export to the US or anywhere when we are an import dependent nation? How can we export when we are not able to first meet local demand? We are still falling for the same economic trap the colonialists set up for us. We produce natural resources and goods for them cheaply, and then import food and essentials from them expensively. Awo, Zik and Balewa fell for this same trap. They were exporting groundnut, cocoa and coal to Europe while importing rice, chocolate and groundnut oil from them.
Where is the industrial capacity, power, infrastructure and capital to start exporting to the US under AGOA? This same AGOA will impose stringent packaging and quality conditions that are very very difficult to meet.
Now tell me exactly how many people do you know that is benefiting from AGOA? Are you one of them?

Look at Africa now, take Sudan as an example, they're reaping from the West, billions being sent.

Sudan ke? Which of the Sudans, south or the main Sudan? Sudan is your classical example of countries benefiting from the west? I hope you are being satirical.

As for the US's actions after World War II, the Marshall Plan for Europe and the backing of Israel were smart investments. They were motivated by a mix of humanitarian aid, economic self-interest, and strategic geopolitical factors during the Cold War. The US's dealings with Europe and Israel were shaped by the political climate of the era, including the aim to block the spread of communism and to form strong alliances in crucial areas.

So you mean African nations would be dumb investments if the US commit resources there like they did Europe and Israel? You also mean we were of no use or importance during the Cold War? If Africa was so useless, why are they now crying that Africa is considering looking east for their salvation?

This is the reason I like Trump to an extent, he doesn't bullshit that he likes Africa and want to help, while in reality hate Africa and Africans. He said his mind when he openly said he would prefer immigrants from Scandinavia than shithole countries (Africa).

How can you compare it to Africa nations which on the other hand, have been shaped by a completely different set of historical, political factors etc. It's a totally different situation.

Which continent benefited the US more in the past, Africa,Middle East or Europe? The wealth and prosperity enjoyed by the US, and Europe today was built on the resources and manpower of Africa.

Nolevel666:
The black monkeys will never learn

All they know how to build with their fish brains are hotels and bars while their mates a designing the latest weapon of massive destruction.

Spits

You forgot to add Chruches, Mosques and Shrines.

happney65:
And it is Russia that is best?

You are funny

Mark this down,In about a year or two,The Nigeriens will soon be calling for the head of Russia. They will prefer the Americans come back

May the universe spare our lives

With all the decades of American presence, what have we actually gained? Is it their absolute disdain for Nigeria and anything Nigerian? Is it their outrageous visa policy that scam Nigerians out of billions of dollars yearly? How many actual investments have the US done in Nigeria?

Botragelad:
Ooh. Russia is not going to 'enslave' you? 😂
In international relations, every country prioritizes its own interests first. This is true for the US, Russia, and all nations.

Similarly, if you consider Russia as an ally, they too would prioritize their national interests. It's a common practice in geopolitics for countries to engage in alliances that serve their strategic objectives.

Yes countries engage in alliances that serve their strategic objectives, but does it have to be a parasitic relationship? Sucking the life blood out of these poor African countries while giving little or nothing in return. That has been the nature of the relationship between African countries and Europe/US from the very beginning.

Why didn't the US employ the same doctrine of "strategic objectives" when dealing with European countries and Israel? The US spent billions in rebuilding Europe after the devastating war started by European themselves. They created military alliance and spent trillions defending Europe from themselves. They do the same with Israel, spending billions of dollars protecting Israel and helping their economy. But when it comes to Africans countries they remember the doctrine of strategic objectives.

malali:
[b]IMF ASKED YOU TO REMOVE SUBSIDIES WITHOUT ADEQUATE JOB PROVISIONS.
THESE WILL PROMOTE BRAIN DRAIN (JAPA)
THE PEOPLE YOU TRAINED FROM BIRTH TO 20 YEARS
WILL NOW MIGRATE EN-MASSE TO BECOME SLAVES IN WESTERN COUNTRIES.

HUMANS ARE THE NEW COMMODITIES
WHEN ABROAD THEY ARE USED FOR THE MORE MUNDANE MENIAL JOBS

WHILE THEIR OWN CITIZENS ARE FREED TO DO MORE INTELLECTUAL ACTIVITIES THAT WILL LEAD TO NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR COUNTRIES.
NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT IS TAKING ADVISE FROM PEOPLE WHO CAME TO STEAL HUMAN BEINGS FROM AFRICA AS SLAVES (EQUIVALENT OF ENERGY AT THAT TIME) TO BUILD AND DEVELOP THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. NOW THESE PEOPLE ARE ASKING US NOT TO SUBSIDIZE POWER,KNOWING FULLY WELL CHEAP POWER IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO INDUSTRIALIZATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

SAUDI,IRAN,IRAQ,RUSSIA,VENEZUELA AND UAE ALL SUBSIDIZE PETROL/LNG.
EVEN THE USA ! BIDEN RELEASED THE SPR TO SUBSIDIZE/CRASH PETROL PRICE 2 YEARS AGO, SEE LIST OF AMERICAN SUBSIDIES BELOW !!

TELL IMF OUR PROBLEM IS CORRUPTION.[/b]

This is the new slavery or slave trade. You promote policies that impoverish the people and thus lead to instability, then you encourage the valuable manpower and the rich elites along with their capital to emigrate and develop the economies of the west. Finally due to instability you exploit the natural resources of these countries without paying the appropriate costs or ethics, thereby destroying the environment.

No one pays the poor more subsidies than the west, from food subsidies, to agricultural subsidies, to housing subsidies.

Enugurangers:
Someone I know even bought at 1800 thinking it would keep going higher, and all he had to do was wait and sell. Luckily for him, he was able to dump it at 1300, cut his losses and run. If he had waited abit more, his loss would have been greater.

Most Nigerians have no idea of currency trading. They buy and sell based on emotions and not on Technical or fundamental analysis. I bought naira at about N1600 to the dollar and quickly before it fell beyond N1500.

helinues:


Serves right.

They are betting against their country currency as they never pray for the Naira to rise again.

There is nothing wrong with currency trading/speculation. It part of normal business like any other business. The problem is that our economy and thus the Naira is not that sophisticated, and so is not traded both physically abroad or digitally in the currency market. I trade Euro against the dollar, Pounds against the dollar and the dollar against the Japanese Yen on the currency market. I uses to trade USDT against the naira when it was available on the binance spot market.

Mynd44:
Actually, I don't agree with this.

According to the charge sheet, Bobrisky was charged with Mutilation of Naira noted from charge 1-4. The 5th charge was money laundering as about 170 million Naira was found in one of his accounts.

When he pleaded guilty, the 5th charge was dropped so this whole thing to me was a plea deal. He takes the first 4 charges and does a little time, loses the money and the 5th charge is dropped.

In count five, Bobrisky while trading under the name and style of Bob Express between Sept 1, 2021, and April 4, 2024, in Lagos, failed to submit to the Special Control Unit Against Money Laundering, a declaration of the activities of the said company, (Bob Express), within which period the total sum of N127. 7m was paid into the company account domiciled with Ecobank.

In count six, Bobrisky is also accused of failing to submit a declaration of the activities of the company within the same period when another N53m was paid into the company’s account thereby committing an offence contrary to Section 6(1)(a), and Section 19(1) (f) of the Money Laundering (Prevention And Prohibition) Act and punishable under Section 19 (2) (b) of the same Act.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2024/04/04/efcc-to-arraign-bobrisky-for-alleged-money-laundering-on-friday/amp/


As you see, these two charges have most likely been dropped and he gets a slap on the wrist.

I strongly disagree with you. Bobrisky had very poor legal representation. Even if he were to plead guilty, he should not have done so under one week. He should have first taken a no guilty plea, then apply for bail. That would have reduced the urgency and pressure on Bobrisky and his defense. They would now have time to prepare for a proper defense.

The case itself is neither here nor there. The main charge of mutilation of the naira is not tenable, unless the EFCC have videos of Bobrisky tearing or burning the naira.
Then the issue of Money Laundering under Section 6(1)(a), and Section 19(1) (f) of the Money Laundering (Prevention And Prohibition Act is Untenable, why?, because the act was mainly target at financial institutions and designated non-financial businesses. They were to report transactions over $10000 or suspicious transactions to the EFCC, under the KYC regime. Accounts that violate the act was to be put on hold until given clearance by EFCC. I know many people that had to clear their transactions with the banks or EFCC before their accounts were released.
How come Bobrisky was guilty of violating the money laundering act, but Ecobank was exonerated?

It's obvious there was a conspiracy by the EFCC, the judge and probably his lawyers as well, to punish and jail Bobrisky because of his lifestyle, which is abhorrent to most Nigerians.

DeepSight:
There are myriad sociological reasons for this and again, this will take time to even out.

Can you please state the myriads of sociological questions why 2 or more black Africans can't coperate to achieve a common goal? Cany you also explain why the problem of village people or family issue is present only among the blacks particularly southern Nigerians. Once one blackman escapes poverty and join the elite, he would not truly help his family, his clansmen or those closest to him achieve any measurable success outside giving handouts. If just one indian, Chinese or Jews migrate into a place, before you know it, he will bring his whole extended family into his small apartment. They would share everything from cars, food, clothes, etc., and before you know it, they would gradually buy up the whole area. In the case of Nigerian, they would be sabotaging each other.

How do you explain that psychologically and sociologically?

CaveAdullam:
There's no need for any condescension in this discussion.

You and @Raalsalghul are analysing same problem from different angles.

Climate and geography plays a role in the functionality of individuals and development of a nation. Africa is a hot continent, making it inconducive for work and the breeding of many parasites that causes diseases.

One useful sentence I picked from Walter Rodney in his book - How Europe Underdeveloped Africa: the Europeans have a a solid foundation and structure. They were able to conquer and colonized nations as a result of this.
This is where @Raalsaghul is coming from.

If you observed very well, that ancestral organization and structure is still there. Hence, they are on top of the world. They might not be following the template tit for tat, however, the template hasn't been completely ignored.

Regardless, Africans are not zombies. We are still intelligent even though our IQ is the least among the human races known.

But nothing stops us from developing our continent. We have the resources and human capital, however, we're still being dumb. Because we lack organization and structure.

Nations like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, used their oil resource to negotiate with standard oil to develop their nation. If the prince were as dumb like African leaders, Saudi Arabia would have been like Nigeria, Congo, etc.

Britain, America, Singapore, China, etc are the reasons I so much believe that one day Africa will see the light and raise shoulders in the world forum. Because these nations were once like Africa, and even worse.

The way the Black man lives his life makes the enlightened shudder in anger and self-pity. Because how can a race be so backward, ignorant, arrogant collectively. They lack pragmatism. They lack foundation. They lack a framework of operation. Policies are ignored. You'll be ashamed of being Black when you come to this knowledge.

Anyways, the development starts with us in whatever way we can.

Thanks.

I dey gbadun your yarns. I agree with you that climate and disease played a huge role in our underdevelopment. The energy employed just for daily day to day survival leave little for thinking, creativity and acquisition of knowledge. Agriculture was hard in forest areas. Weather was unpredictable and some years have excess rainfall, while in some there was drought.
But...
These conditions no longer exists. There are now mechanised farming, improved seeds and crops and irrigation. It's an embarrassment we cannot feed ourself and have to rely on food imports from Asia and Europe.

About our ancestral organisation and structure, that was destroyed by the colonialists. It had been replaced by those imposes from Europe and to some extend Arabia.

I don't believe on an individual level our IQ is the least among the human races known. The problem is the societal or organisational IQ. Blacks cannot cooperate to achieve a common goal. We cannot build gigantic structures that requires a high level of cooperation by thousands of individuals, ie the Pyramids, the Titanic, the empire state building, etc. We can only excel on individual levels.

DeepSight:
Calm down, Europe was stagnant for 1, 000 years before the Renaissance / Enlightenment. No human population can remain eternally stagnant. Nature and life have ways of prodding and compelling movement.

PS: Haba, @ "Gorilla!" You harsh oh, bros.

Yes, Europe was stagnant for 1000 years, but it was not retrogressing. This was mainly due to religious and political conflicts that were rife at that period. There was the Muslim invasion of Europe started from the 7th century AD, which led to the crusades that lasted until the 13th century. Then there was the mongol invasion of Europe in the 13th century, followed by the Ottoman Empire. It was after relative peace and stability starting from the end of the 14th century that Europe started experiencing progress and development.
Now what's are excuse for remaining stagnant for such a long time until the Europeans came to enslave us. Now after enslavement and colonialism, we seem to the retrogressing as a race and unable to build prosperous and stable societies.
The most annoying to me are Haiti, Guyana and Jamaica. Countries that were handed over to blacks to develop in the middle of the Americas, and we made a mess of them.

Gerrard59:
Na wetin I realise few years ago. Person go think tire con later realise say na only am and few others dey reason like that. I recall when David Hundyein tweeted that in the coming years, whites would not be comfortable with blacks in their midst and the only solution is building a functioning black country in Africa. Even if it means seizing power and just create a functioning black dominated society in Africa.



To be fair, those qualities can easily be implemented in societies where there is a clear dominance by groups which desire those attributes. However, as I write, there exist countries with such dominance, yet dem no dey successful. The thing tire person sha. For instance, see Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. Fine, they are ruled by dictators, but why not implement similar policies like those in the UAE and Qatar? That way, you diversify from oil and attract people from around the world to live, work and play in your countries. No point to reinventing the wheel, just copy and paste. Finish!

Thank God say the tweet by Paul Graham has revealed some of the thoughts white Americans have towards black Africans. I hope more of such revelations happen, maybe some people go develop sense by force.

My brother, I am impressed by your insights. It simply because you are well educated and well travelled. Most black Africans are oblivious of the world around them, ignorant and living a shade off our closest relative, the Gorilla. We are satisfied with just mundane animalistic instincts and sensations like sex, food, drinks and rituals, while the rest of the world are moving ahead with science and technology and building a stable, prosperous and peaceful society. At the rate of our degradation, I don't see the black race surviving the next century. Our culture, land and even physical attributes would have been eroded and assimilated by the whites by then. Today the best of us are migrating to assimilate in Europe and the Americas, while the worst of us are left behind to complete the destruction of the society. Only a brutal awaking, might wake us up of our stupor.

israelmao:
With all his first brain and qualification he has left Kaduna State pooer than before, thousands of contractors are unpaid and his political godson has boldly come out to say loud and clear that he is grappling with payment of workers' salaries on account of huge debt his political godfather left behind.

Exactly! We worship paper qualifications and titles. No wonder people go to great lengths just to acquire degrees and titles without any visible benefits to anyone. These people would not be qualified to manage a district in china.

Richtaiwo:
Nasir Elrufai is a first class product, not only on paper, but also in substance. The sons of dogs insulting him are not qualified to lace his shoes.

So what has the first class product contributed first to his family, then to his community, to his state, to the country and to humanity as a whole? Given he was given various opportunities both in private and government roles. What did El Rufai contribute to Nigerian privatisation process director General of BPE. What did Mallam El Rufai contribute to Abuja as Minister of FCT outside demolishing peoples properties and seizing lands and re-allocating to friends and families? What did El Rufai contribute to Kaduna State as governor for 7 years?
What contributions has he made to the private sector?
Please give me one thing his first class has contributed.

Emyogalanya:
Better than to stand with only Innocent palestinians against Innocent jews. as if the Innocent jews do not deserve justice too

To you it is better to only stand with innocent Israelis than innocent Palestinians. Innocent Palestinians do not deserve justice.

TNORWAY:
no book preach hate reach that paper called Quran

False, the Torah preach as much hate if not more than the Quran.

Righteousness2:
[
GOD'S Foreign Policy has not Changed.
You Bless ISRAEL, you are Blessed.
You Curse ISRAEL, you are Cursed.

One thing is sure , GOD ALMIGHTY will Defend HIS land and Save HIS People.
They are gonna pass through crazy hard times( The time of Jacob's troubles) after the RAPTURE. But at the End GOD will save HIS People.

I STAND WITH ISRAEL[/i]

I don't know which one is more blood thirsty and Genocidal, the God of Israel or the God of Ismael? An religion that worships El is Evil. But the God of Rome (Jesus) is supposed to be benign and passifist, but many Nigerians prefers violence and choose to worships the God of Israel in the guise of worshiping the God of Rome.

feedthenation:
Trump Media shares plummet 21% days after debut

(Reuters) -Shares of Donald Trump's social media company plunged 21% on Monday, wiping out the gains from its debut last week, after disclosing millions in losses and saying it would struggle to meet its financial liabilities going forward.

Trump Media & Technology Group lost more than $58 million in 2023, it said in a filing, sending shares reeling less than a week after the Truth Social parent went public through a high-profile blank-check merger.

The stock surged in its March 26 debut to close at nearly $58 a share on retail buyer enthusiasm, including supporters of Trump, the likely Republican nominee in 2024's presidential election. But Monday's disclosure reversed that trend, sending shares down $13.30, or 21%, to $48.66.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-media-company-falls-raising-143421931.html

BREAKING NEWS: Shares of Trump Media Technology Group $DJT (Parent company of Truth Social) have just plunged 25% after they reported a Loss that is 1400% greater than their total revenue for 2023.

The $6.5 BILLION Company also says that they “expect to incur operating losses… pic.twitter.com/sZ4aJnGZZl

— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) April 1, 2024

Most likely a pump and dump scheme/scam. Trump most likely kept a substantial number of the shares and dumped immediately after launch, when the hype is loudest and MAGA are buying at ridiculous prices. This happens a lot in the Memecoin market. This is why I stopped trading memecoin. No matter how legitimate a Memecoin project looks with all the hype and beautiful websites, 99% of them are scam. You always end up getting rugged.

In a matter of days Trump Media & Technology Group would become a penny stock. Trump would have cashed out by then.

Obrigardo:
Criminal trump's popularity is the same? Puleeease, no platitudes. Let's be real. The Criminal is under water. His former VP won't even back him, his former secretary of defense won't even support him, and about 42 other former cabinet members and officials who worked with him says he's an existential danger to democracy.

Did you see the crowds Liz Cheney pulled with her event in Red republican Des Moines, in Iowa? Do you even know the stats of the republican primary that had Criminal trump bleeding voters even in Florida, closed ballot for that matter?

I don't think you are a seriously objective person. Like I've always known maga cultists to be, you people are excessively stubborn to facts and changes.

Arguing with MAGA is an exercise in futility. They attempt to wear you out with lies, conspiracy theories and dishonesty. They are like the hyda headed monster You kill on lie or conspiracy theory, they create 5 more, expecting you to engage all with them. Before you even finish, they create even more. All the while the lies and conspiracy theories keeps getting crazier. It's really exhausting. I praise those with the time and energy to keep up with them.
This one made a stupendous claim that Trump popularity remains the same as 2020

tctrills:
Actually, he lost only by 40k votes in just 3 states. Biden is now much more unpopular than 4 years ago while Trump's popularity remains about the same.

This is despite almost all his former cabinet members not supporting him, Nikki Haley and her supporters (which are about 20% of GOP) not supporting him yet, Moderate Republicans (non MAGA republicans) are leaving the party, and the Lincoln Project getting ready for the campaigns.

Meanwhile, there is no major division within the democrats, Unions are endorsing Biden and Biden is breaking fundraising records.

MAGA now wants to disregard all and accept only pools. In the past, whenever the pools favour democrats, they become critical of pools. Now it that pools favours Trump, it has become a prophesy.

Themaths:
I might not have the correct data, but I still think your numbers are way off the mark. Let's say 20,000 cars were sold in 2022; that means approx. 55 cars per day, then 1-2 cars per state, including the FCT. There is no way only 1-2 cars are sold daily, even in Nigeria's least developed state. Perhaps you meant 200,000?

The data is quoting Brand New Cars and not Tokunbo or Nigerian used cars. How many Nigerians buy tear rubber cars? Most new cars are bought by government officials and big corporations, while the ordinary citizens go for used cars.

ozo13:
be confusing urself.where did I mention Binance fixing naira even though I try not to be controversial Abt it.let me ask a simple yes or no question.is Binance legally registered in Nigeria ? And when you are done answering that one then ask urself again if it was in US they are unregistered entity what will be the penalty for operating with no registeration.
Back to naira fixing .u brought up the issue of abokifx and I asked if it is a legal entity in Nigeria and if so are they paying tax .yes or no questions u are convulsing up n down.

Like I HV said, na Nigeria dey allow nonsense happen for over here.mention a serious country they allow black market sale of there currency if not in Nigeria.
When I see enemy of Nigeria speak I know one and when Govt is fucking up , we point it out too.ppl that were jubulating and telling people to illegally keep there dollars till naira get to 2500 or 3k/dollar can't be considered as a patriot.where things are working and done normally such people are tagged enemy of the Nation.

Now let me also ask you corresponding question similar to those I highlighted:
Is Nairaland registered in Nigeria?
Is Facebook registered in Nigeria
Is TicTok registered in Nigeria?
Is Alibaba and Aliexpress registered in Nigeria?
There are thousands if not millions of website thar offer one service or the other to Nigerians and collect payments from Nigerians, how many of them are registered in Nigeria?

Binance was not the only website offering P2P service to Nigerians in the crypto space. There are others like OKX and Kucoin that still allow naira to be traded on their platform till this very second. Why is Ribabu not issuing warrant of arrest for all their executives?

So you see the issue is not with binance itself but with our laws. Instead of you to attack your legislative for doing nothing but approving budgets, allowances and constituency projects, instead of passing laws to regulate and tax internet companies doing business in with Nigerians, you are attacking Binance just taking advantage of Nigeria's lax laws.

JagabanB:
Do ur findings, the Nigerians who are doing well in various fields today mostly attended those schools both those who are at home and those who have gone abroad.
The attended these schools at a point in their life.

Help me out by naming those Nigerians that are renowned in various field of science and technology, and the schools they attended.

I am not even arguing that some Nigerians leant to read and write, and pass exams in Nigeria. What I am still contending is that they become elite scientist/inventors after attending elite schools abroad, where the facilities for physical learning of science is available.

jazzman7711:
Excellently put.

In their 70 year misrule, the British did not build a single engineering institute in the country. They were terrified of their ‘subjects’ learning new technology etc.

But they built many churches and promoted Shakespeare and co in their wretched missionary schools.

In their colonies of India, Canada, Egypt, South Africa etc, they built such engineering schools and promoted science and technology, which is why it is dumb to say “they colonised other continents as well”, when attacking current Nigerian and African underdevelopment.

Colonialism was practiced VERY differently in black Africa. It was total looting and exploitation, and building nothing.

Black African nations only began to develop after independence in the 1960s, which is like yesterday in terms of history.

My brother they are incapable of grasping this truth, a mental prison is the worst kind of prison, as you are not even aware you are imprisoned. It like living in the Matrix, oblivious of the real world.

Ever wondered why the first thing the colonialist did was translate the Bible into all the local languages, but refused to translate Physics, Mathematics and the sciences. They taught us Shakespeare but refused to teach us Newton, Faraday, Fleming, etc. They taught us their own version of our history. They build mega churches,but refused to build Libraries, Laboratories, Observatories, Museums (in fact the destroyed our own Museums.

Chicagograduate:
No be by mouth.Una get light?

No mind dem? On top diesel of N1400? I neva take eye see NEPA light for 3 days now.

Jayhome24:
Are you done or anything more to say "a citizen of a stupid country"?

Pls when you finish foaming from your mouth close the door behind you.

Why dem no arrest Mark Zuckerberg when he come naija, abi Facebook dey pay tax for all the Facebook ads money dem dey collect from Nigerians?