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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:45pm On Dec 31, 2023
bemeruca:
I am calling your Party analogy bad because it does not apply to this situation.
He asked them to make their voices heard and be peaceful. You cannot peacefully stop a process where there are guards. He never asked them to stop any process.
Lies. You guys can lie even in the face of clear video and audio evidence.
So provide evidence where he asked them to stop the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3cbd7niTQ?si=qKZ0bcv2WGSg0j32
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:28pm On Dec 31, 2023
bemeruca:
Why are you guys supporting him? He was caught, right? People called him what he is. Is he a fed? They ask! Why is he the one that you guys are defending? Was his hat abamade?

Filing a defamation lawsuit does not mean he did not do what he was doing. The question I am putting to you is: If people are locked up for asking people to riot and storm the building, something Trump did not do but you're claiming he did because of Trump Derangement Syndrome, yet the one man who was on video doing it is the one man y'all are supporting, then Zendi is 100% correct.
No one is supporting him. Most people had not even heard of him until you guys brought up his name.
In am desperate attempt to defend trump and exonerate him from planing and executing the January 6 coup, you guys spawn all sorts of conspiracy theories. First it was antifa that organized and carried out the Riots. When there was no iota of evidence, you guys switched to FBI. Fox news and Tucker Carlson then brought up a certain Ray Epps as an FBI mole as being responsible for the violent attack on the Capitol.
All these claim without an iota of evidence. The only evidence Tucker Carlson presented were video clips of Ray Epps urging rioters to go into the Capitol, even though he himself did not enter the Capitol building. Now the same Ray Epps has taken Fox News to court to prove he is an FBI mole and he is responsible for the attack on the Capitol.

Trump on the other hand is being charged for being responsible for January 6 Riots and 3 other illegal efforts to over turn the 2019 elections which he lost. He has the opportunity to defend himself, but instead he and his MAGA worshipers whining like cry babies.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:30pm On Dec 31, 2023
bemeruca:
So this happened in 2020 abi 2021. Why haven't you given them the evidence so they can lock him up?
This is because Trump has been employing his famed delay tactics in slowing the legal process. He has employed his enormous influence to stall every process of the investigations and trial. Even up till now his lawyers are fighting a quick resolution of the various court trials. He is hoping to stall the trials until after the elections and then claim immunity if he wins the presidency.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:24pm On Dec 31, 2023
bemeruca:
The one Maga that was caught asking people to storm the building on video was the one Budaatum CNN and you guys were defending 🤣 he was putting on a Maga hat but you guys love him nonetheless cheesy
I hope you are aware that the one Maga that was caught asking people to storm the building whom you Ultra Magas accuse of being an FBI mole has filed a defamation lawsuits against Fox News. So fox news is being provided with opportunity to prove the allegations in court.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
DeepSight:
Just listened watched the link. To be fair it does not suggest he thought the SS could be up to any hanky panky. It says he didnt like the optics of him fleeing the capitol.
Please listen again;
"The head of his secret service Tim had said, I assure you we are not going to drive out of the building without your permission. And the Vice President had said something to the effect of, Tim,I know you, I trust you, but you are not the one behind the wheel. "
So you see Mike Pence at that moment did not trust the secret service personnel in his detail.

The coup was well planned but it did not succeed due to the patriotic sacrifice of Congress Police officers and pure luck.
Trump made many contingency plans. The main plan was for the Vice President to reject the original electors and count the fake electors provided by Trump or in the alternative for him to send the electors back to the states, buying time for Trump to manipulate the process. Since Pence failed to go along with the plan, the next contingency was to stop Pence and the Congress from certifying the results through violence. If Pence was killed or injured he would not be in a position to preside over Congress. The next in line - the speaker was also targeted
If she too was killed or incapacitated, then there would be a power vacuum. No Congress, no Vice president, no speaker. Wonder why they went directly for Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi.
If there was no congress to certify the results and no Speaker to take over on January 20th, Trump continues as President.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:53am On Dec 31, 2023
DeepSight:
On point. Trumpists are the real evidence for mankind's capacity for worshipful delusion.
However, I didnt know of the bold. Pls shed some light.
The secret service wanted to drive Pence away from the Capitol building at the heat of the Insurrection. He refused to get into the car because he did not trust the secret service personnel driving the car.
https://youtube.com/shorts/C4tivPraEBk?si=3nT_CDj4BewCidDW

If Pence had left the Capitol thar day, the US would have been in a constitutional crisis, because January 6th was the last day for the certification of the elections by Congress. That was exactly what Trump wanted to achieve.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
Obrigardo:
Don't be stupid. The evidence we have so far is just too bare and incriminating for the criminal. A stupid and detached from reality comment here does not change that fact.

How many maga cultists are in jail?
How many criminal trump lawyers pleading with prosecutors?
How many GOP congressmen asked criminal trump for pardons before the Jan 6th Insurrection? (Have you asked yourself that - why did they ask for pardons?

There's so much more, but I don't want to waste my time on an idiot .

Fûck all the way off.
MAGAs are conclusive proof that Homo Sapiens have an insatiable urge to worship. They started by worshipping the sun and the planets, they moved to worshipping animals, trees and inanimate objects like stone, statues, mountains, rivers, etc. Finally they ended up worshipping mere mortals - powerful men including evil ones.

MAGAs make every excuse to justify their worship of him. Steve Bannon had hinted us long before the elections that Trump will never concede the elections. (He had never conceded any election he lost or thought he lost). The plan for holding onto power illegally has been in place even before the elections. The plan was to cause chaos during the certification and have the Vice President either recognise Trump's selected electors or have him delay the certification by sending the electors back to the states. What foiled the coup was Pence refusal to go along, and for that MAGAs were ready to hang Mike Pence. Imagine a whole US vice president running for his life from MAGAs and a section of the secret service.
The ppan failed, and instead of Trump to face prosecutions, MAGAs are minimising the coup (some call it Insurrection) and calling it a mere tour of the Capitol.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:45am On Dec 31, 2023
bemeruca:
wow, you did it grin grin grin grin all you evidence are solid
Video and audio evidence of your intentions to commit crime is admissible in court.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:41am On Dec 31, 2023
zendi:
On J6, Trump organized a Rally, not a Riot. However, a number of lawbreakers turned a part of the lawful Rally to Riots and Trespassing. Those who took part in the lawbreaking should be held accountable.
But molehils should be prosecuted as molehills, not as mountains.
Secondly, the organizer of the officially authorized Rally should not be roped into the Riot and Trespassing, modified into Insurrection and/or Coup making.
If Trump and his people were organising a peaceful protest instead of a violent riot, how come Steve Bannon said in thus podcast a day before "all he'll is going to break loose tomorrow"
https://youtube.com/shorts/t7rSZl0u2n4?si=S4GdLgZWJVkcPbDY

How come Rudy Guiliani was advocating for "trial by combat" during his speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JYEApsKNX4?si=hKFpm4VSqf68sZyF

Then how come Trump said "fight like hell"
PoliticsRe: Delete Delete by wirinet(m): 6:14pm On Dec 30, 2023
NaijaCuzin:
Genoa vs Inter game started by 9pm (20:45) and ended 11pm 22:45 (or 22:50+ injury time)

You played the 80 odds by 11pm (22:42), 97th minute of the game

Clap for yourself
He did not play the 80 odds by 22:42 PM, the game was settled (void) by 22:42 PM.
CelebritiesRe: 'I Am Dead To My Father' - Emeka Ike's Son, Michael by wirinet(m): 8:48am On Dec 28, 2023
DeepSight:
It really is good to follow the maxim we were taught in school - "Audi alterem partem" - Always "hear the other side."
As I said earlier, Emeka showed love to his wife and children the best way he could. He sponsored his wife from JAMB to Master's degree, he opened two businesses for her, one being be school since she is a qualified educator. This boy that's is badmouthing Emeka up and down got the best education money can buy in Nigeria. Emeka sent him to Turkish international school, that's one of the most expensive secondary schools in Nigeria. He paid to get him into university in Abuja.
Now you can understand Emeka's frustrations when one day the boy called his father that he no longer wants to continue going to school, but wants to be a musician. To make matters worse the boy is working as a waiter in a restaurant in Lagos. Any Nigerian father that loves his child will be livid.

Yes Emeka overreacted in the audio clip we heard, but the context of the conversation was never revealed. The mother just played the clip to fit her narrative. Why did she not play the whole audio conversation? I am sure the call was a set up. She already knew how Emeka would react and decided to record the conversation of the son telling his father that he has dropped out of school.

I know emeka ika has his own demons as no one is perfect, and no marriage is without its dark cupboard, but the wife is manipulating the children and public against her ex husband to gain sympathy.

Watch this Daddy freeze interview to gain further insights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N7bQOhmKpA?si=6FhQY1EAEhNXM2ON
FamilyRe: Woman Rejects Christmas Car Gift From Her 200 Level Undergraduate Son (photos) by wirinet(m): 4:04pm On Dec 27, 2023
Zonefree:
Must be skit.

No African mother will reject a successful son unless she's a witch.

The joy of every mother is to see her sons progress.


So, a 22 year old 200 level student should be broke and poor in Nigeria?
I bought my first land in 300 level.

This is the problem with Nigerians. The reason police profile a young boy driving a car as yahoo boy.

Young boys are making money without yahoo. Yahoo is not the only means of making money online.

As a student, learn a skill while studying. Don't always depend on your parents.
You must be a yahoo boy.
So you want to tell me that a mother would not know her son well enough to know his earning capacity. That she was not aware of the skills he has acquired that can make him a millionaire in such a short time.

If this was abroad, they guy will be arrested and told to bring his tax receipts.
CelebritiesRe: 'I Am Dead To My Father' - Emeka Ike's Son, Michael by wirinet(m):
DeepSight:
Have you seen this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvu5_zN3dRI?si=8llLAtEiTjXhNCT5
Yes. That's the first interview I saw that made me sympathetic to her.

I changed my mind after seeing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ5fg6q6SEM?si=bNS3BPNtpg_Jrqp4

To me this this the most important point of her interview;
"Actually, I wanted to be an actress. That’s why I became his friend. I was modelling at that point, I just came out of secondary school. I was 18. Then I met him along the line, I was looking for someone who could put me through the industry and all that. He categorically told me I couldn't act because it will destroy our relationship. Because at that time we had gotten into a relationship.....
...He stopped my modelling career."


She never loved him.
CelebritiesRe: 'I Am Dead To My Father' - Emeka Ike's Son, Michael by wirinet(m): 2:01pm On Dec 27, 2023
teewhydope:
And so what, isn't wizkid a drop-out. Can't his son dictate his future? Abeg
You are talking like you are not a nigerian. If you were a Nigeria, you will understand the mentality of Nigeria fathers. No Nigerian father would be happy that his child dropped out of school, especially after paying millions to secure admission. That's the ultimate shame and embarrassment to a Nigerian father.

A reasonable child would graduate first before pursuing the career of their choice.
CelebritiesRe: 'I Am Dead To My Father' - Emeka Ike's Son, Michael by wirinet(m): 12:25pm On Dec 27, 2023
Salowise:
The boy don go pick side which is bad, he should've been neutral, I feel Emeka Ike start having issue with his son after he chooses his mom over him, maybe he had some difficulty taking care of his children in some certain time and he felt disappointed by his son's decision. I've never had that he beat up his wife, from what she said he was outside the country when she called off the marriage, which is very clear they were in good standing before she ended the marriage (what ended the marriage was not really domestic violence). Emeka failed to build bond with his son when he had the chance (most fathers are guilty of this), it's just one thing I've discovered from their family feud, women are manipulative in nature any little love from them seems overrated.

In summary:

•Emeka Ike is back to Nollywood

•We now know his son is a musician

•His wife can now be a women right
activist with the likes of Iyabo Oja🤣.

Please ignore the summary 😎
It's difficult to form bond with your children when you have to hussle to cater for 4 children - pay school fees, feed them, cloth them and pay medical expenses. This is where women have the advantage, they are physically available to bond with the children while the man run around like a mad man trying to make money to cater for the whole family.
CelebritiesRe: 'I Am Dead To My Father' - Emeka Ike's Son, Michael by wirinet(m): 12:16pm On Dec 27, 2023
BiGVEEN58:
You believe Emeka Ike hates his son? Lol

Go and touch that boy first, your mind go dey.
Exactly! Why should Emeka hate his son? A son he catered for and paid his school fees since birth.

From what I gathered, Emeka's main anger with his son was that he dropped out of school and said he wanted to become a musician. Imagine all the money wasted by Emeka trying to make sure his son becomes a graduate.
CelebritiesRe: 'I Am Dead To My Father' - Emeka Ike's Son, Michael by wirinet(m): 12:02pm On Dec 27, 2023
SmartyPants:
I wonder how a fight between a man and his wife becomes "our" affairs from the perspective of the child? A man is talking about losing all he worked for and all his son can say is stop talking about our affairs publicly, in other words, stop putting my mother to shame.

Read between the lines.
Exactly. Emeka never mentioned his son's when he spoke, so i don't understand where the " our " private affairs comes in. It should be his mother making such statements and not him, except he is now the spokesman for his mother.
FoodRe: I Made This Chicken And Chips. Rate Me! (pics Ins.) by wirinet(m): 10:38am On Dec 27, 2023
blowjohn:
This is small chops and chips.

Not chicken and chips fried sweet potato.
Chips - long, thin piece of potato that is fried
FoodRe: I Made This Chicken And Chips. Rate Me! (pics Ins.) by wirinet(m): 9:39am On Dec 27, 2023
3/10.
When presenting food for grading, there are certain parameters to look for;
1. Appearance - I score 3 in appearance as the chicken looks too dry. The dish generally is dry, no dip or garnish to add some wetness or colour.

2. Presentation - presentation is also very poor. The plate is cheap ceramic plate. Once more no imagination in the Presentation.

3. Taste - I cannot score the taste for obvious reasons. Taste includes the spiciness and tenderness of the dish.
PoliticsRe: Probe All You Want! You Can't Touch Me: Sadiya Umar-farouk Replies EFCC by wirinet(m): 9:22am On Dec 27, 2023
maasoap:
Dumb. Rich northerner vs poor Southerner! How about rich northerner vs rich southerner or poor northerner vs poor southerner?
Your are just hiding your head in the sand. You are either blind to the bias justice system in Nigeria or you are being dishonest.

Go to any prison in Nigeria and count the ratio of southern prisoners vs northern prisoners.

Go to any court in Nigeria and count the number of cases involving southerners vs northerners.

Northern government officials tend to protect their counterparts more than southerners. In fact the "village people syndrome " in which a person takes action to bring down his family or clansman is mainly a southern phenomenon. Northerners seem to have a greater sense of brotherhood than southerners.
PoliticsRe: Probe All You Want! You Can't Touch Me: Sadiya Umar-farouk Replies EFCC by wirinet(m): 6:49am On Dec 27, 2023
Dpharisee:
The average northerner who served under Buhari sees themselves as untouchable, all they do is call Buhari and ask him to speak with Tinubu.
They are using Emefiele as scapegoat and concocting more stories such as owning 535 bank accounts to make his crimes look bigger, why not present all the evidences planted in the media at the court?

Sadiya and Hadi Sirika and Danbazau and Buratai and other looters don't fear Yorubas in power taking any serious action.
We operate a 4 tier justice system in Nigeria - One tier for the rich and another for the poor. This is further subdivided into two tiers - one tier for southerners and another for northerners. So, you get justice based on the combination of tiers you belong. Rich northerner can get away with any thing including murder, while a poor southerner would get the death sentence for stealing a phone.

I personally know the brother of the police officer involved in the Apo 6 murders, the guy was still in the police the last time I spoke to my friend about 4 years ago.

EFCC only harasses politicians and civil servants from the South, particularly those from South South and South East. Northerners are never touched no matter their offense.
CelebritiesRe: His Mother Tore My Mom’s Cloth – Emeka Ike’s Ex-wife Addresses Claim Of Assault by wirinet(m): 12:07pm On Dec 26, 2023
YelloweWest:
Amen. I already have a good husband.

I have a good father as well.

Nothing on earth can make my son hate his father. Nothing. Even if a turn to a devil, I can never convince him that his father is bad because his personal experience with his dad supercede my opinion.

Same with me. Nobody can tell me my father is bad. I can never hate him.

My brother equally loves my dad.

For an adult child to say he hates his father, that says it all.

Both I and my son are adults...

Emeka Ike is not a good family man, rather he is using his family for media relevance to promote his movie.

Godforbid!!!
Please watch the video. What other qualities of a good man than providing for the children and paying for their education. The children were in school when they were with the father, they dropped out on going over to their mother. Who out of the two is a better parent?
PoliticsRe: Rivers Crisis: President Tinubu Won’t Just Fold Hands And Watch – Ajuri Ngelale by wirinet(m): 11:11am On Dec 26, 2023
Mynd44:
Seems President Tinubu is now the national leader of APC and PDP.

APCDP
GOD BLESS PDAPC
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kHHyvKTBiZY?si=nRxobEjmr6TQ4_ES
CelebritiesRe: His Mother Tore My Mom’s Cloth – Emeka Ike’s Ex-wife Addresses Claim Of Assault by wirinet(m): 11:00am On Dec 26, 2023
I have to humbly apologise for taking the sides of the wife. From the narrative of Emeka's P.A, it was she that first slapped her husband before he started beating her. Even though I am against men beating women, if my wife slaps me, would panel beat her before I regain my senses.
See the interview here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ5fg6q6SEM?si=bNS3BPNtpg_Jrqp4

The wife is pretending to be a saint, while Emeka is the devil.
PoliticsRe: Rivers: PDP Fumes As Fubara Defends Tinubu Over Peace Deal by wirinet(m): 10:47am On Dec 26, 2023
DeepSight:
Nobody should. But in his Christmas day address, Sim seems to have bent the knee. I hope its just a feint. I really hope so, otherwise, he has thrown away everything.
Believe me he did not. He was being diplomatic and strategic. He cannot confront Wike and Tinubu headlong right now, as he is fighting from the position of weakness. He is yet to be confirmed governor by the Supreme court, He has only 4 house of reps members in his camp, he does not have grass root support, PDP that should have come to his aid is comatose right now. He needs to buy time to consolidate his hold on power.
Paying the 27 legislators cash for Christmas should help in bringing some of them to his side. Paying civil servants money will also increase his profile among the people. I am 100% certain he will not recall the resigned commissioners, he will never approve the legislators to sit in any venue they choose.
Fubara can't do much until the supreme court makes a final judgement.
PoliticsRe: Rivers: PDP Fumes As Fubara Defends Tinubu Over Peace Deal by wirinet(m):
Tranquill:
It’s not even about Wike and that is what most people don’t know. Why do you think Wike is getting support even from Sims own immediate constituency? Sim was never a politician and couldn’t even win a councillorship election, Wike brought him onboard and many others did the legwork as foot soldiers for him to become governor.
It's all about Wike, about his overbloated ego. He wants to be the Jagaban of Rivers State without taking notes from the Jagaban himself. Wike is not the first Godfather that made a political nobody a governor, and he will not be the last. Tinubu has had disagreements with all his political godsons he made governor except Sonwo olu, he never treated them like shit.

Within 3 months, he started alienating these people, taking advice from other people that were vehemently opposed to his candidacy to build ‘his own structure’ and power base. Within 3 months, he wanted to sack all the LGA chairmen on the ground that they are loyal to Wike and then appoint his own loyalists as caretakers. These are the foot soldiers that made him governor. Why the so much rush just within 3 months? Why not let their tenure run out and an election conducted? Why the desperation? I hear one popular pastor in PH, whose presidential candidate didn’t win is among those misleading him.
Believe me the main issue is not the local government chairmen, its wikes authoritarian attitude, he wants to be running River's State from his office in Abuja. He appointed all commissioners, legislators, Local Government chairmen and aids of the governor including his personal aids. Fubara could not even award contacts without approval from Abuja (Wike).
Nobody and repeat nobody would accept such arrangement.
This is just one of the several things he started, that made Wike and his group to react. Who would just let that happen? Then they started spreading rumours about Wike demanding for 25% of Rivers State money among other falsehoods, Sim knew they were not true and did nothing to debunk them rather allowed the rumours to fester.
I am certain there is lots of propaganda from both sides, but one thing Fubara was complaining about was that the states monthly IGR reduced from N10 billion to N6 billion, and no one was explaining to him why?
It is not about governance and certainly not about money but more about the politics and Sim Fubara went about it like someone with evil intentions. That is the height of ingratitude!
Gratitude at the expense of the people of Rivers State? Politicians in Nigeria feels that only their interests matter and the masses are just pawns. How will gratitude to Wike translate into good governance for the people of Rivers State?
PoliticsRe: Lauretta Onochie Stranded, Homeless In The UK - Saharareporters by wirinet(m): 3:11am On Dec 26, 2023
BALLOSKI:
Saharareporters is becoming more useless than I thought. They didn't even wait to get more details before pushing this out. Now the ingrates have been sent out and she's in her room now as the true tenant.
Sahara reporters are taking junk journalism to a different level. The publish stories without even checking how logical it is. Imagine saying a whole NDDC chairman (of 4 years) being homeless. Even the least director in NDDC can afford a house in UK, not to talk of its chairman.

It's certain she owned the house and her cousin was refusing to allow her take possession. Even from the video, the lady never claimed the house belonged to her, she was just claiming harrasement. If the house belonged to the lady, she would have called the police.
CelebritiesRe: His Mother Tore My Mom’s Cloth – Emeka Ike’s Ex-wife Addresses Claim Of Assault by wirinet(m): 12:32pm On Dec 25, 2023
DonFreshmoney:
Nigerian women no dey ever get sense or use their head in marriage, emeka ike is remarried, sifr in Germany with lovely kids, ex wife isn't remarried, scorned and spiteful of her ex husband.. using their kids against the man. I just laugh at times
You guys are so misogynistic and have deep hatred for women that you wonder if you were given birth to by a woman. Emeka charmed her and impregnated her before she barely left her teens. He was already a star and could have married any woman of his choice, but he preferred a young naive 18 year old fair girl barely out of secondary school. The relationship was based on last and not love. The lady was needed a provider while Emeka need a subordinate who he could control. That's a disaster waiting to happen.

Anyway, It was Emeka who claimed to have moved on, that reopened the old wounds by his various media interview to promote his new film.
CelebritiesRe: His Mother Tore My Mom’s Cloth – Emeka Ike’s Ex-wife Addresses Claim Of Assault by wirinet(m): 7:05am On Dec 25, 2023
Gainman:
are u a man? Let me ask. If u are a man pray u dont hv issue with a woman. And if u are not, u will understand better if this happens to your son or brother.
What issue will you have with your woman that will make you to constantly physically abuse her?
CelebritiesRe: His Mother Tore My Mom’s Cloth – Emeka Ike’s Ex-wife Addresses Claim Of Assault by wirinet(m):
gassbee:
Who do we believe Emeka or the wife, Emeka says he never beat her, the eife says he has been violent towards her
Because Emeka's wife has proves and witnesses, and her story is detailed. She mentioned names, places and dates. Emeka own story does not add up. All he is alleging was that the wife ganged up on him with others to blackmail him. He alleged the wife closed his school and sold 80% of his properties when he was away in the US for few weeks. His story doesn't add up.

Besides their children that was in his custody in the childhood confirm that he was physically violent and they take their monthers side.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Was The First Human To Celebrate Jesus? by wirinet(m): 7:00pm On Dec 24, 2023
jakeroberto:
Christianity is and was never moulded on Paul......Christianity is being Christ-like l.
That's what you choose to believe.
Jesus never told his disciples he was God to be worshipped, that was Paul.

Jesus never created any hierarchy in his organization, he sat on the floor together with his disciples, he never sat on a high chair. He did not create Bishops, elders, pastors. He said you can talk to God directly and don't need to talk to God through bishops, popes, pastors, etc.
He eat from the same table with his followers. He never personally owned any property. He never denigrated women, he did not see them as inferior.

All these I mentioned above were introduced by Paul and not Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Was The First Human To Celebrate Jesus? by wirinet(m): 6:52pm On Dec 24, 2023
obonujoker:
How can someone who created Man and gave him everything be wrathful and vengeful??
Just because you created something is not justification to be wrathful and vengeful, particularly for egocentric reasons. I gave birth to children ( which I created in a sense). If I decide to be wrathful and vengeful and every disobedience the commit, I would have killed them long ago.
That's why I said I like the character of Jesus, he was a pacifist and never wrathful or vengeful, that character belongs to Yahweh and Allah.

God is not wrath with man. God is wrath with the devil and his fallen angels who fell from glory.. however if a man/woman decides to follow the antecedents of the devil, then he/she falls under the wrath of God
God is wrath with the devil, but instead of him to take his personal beef with the devil, he decides to take it on man, who was not even involved with their beef to start with.

Your God is just to wrathful for someone like me. I am not a wrathful person. Anyone with negative emotions, I avoid.

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