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Lukuluku69:
Very true.

I learnt Chinese Trawlers, Ghanaians and Cameroonians are the one doing serious fishing in our Waters.

This is a business Nigerians can go into too.

Growing up, I know some Lebanese at Apapa, Lagos into this but left when the old Man became old.

His name? We simply call him Joseph back then.

The reason Nigerians are not into fish trawling is because of corruption and government bureaucracy. Getting loans to buy a trawler is very difficult, an interest rate of 30% is killing. Registering a ship in Nigeria is a herculean task. The Nigerian crew and captain operating the trawler will steal you to oblivion. Navy, police and other government agencies patrolling our Waters will collect bribes and fish from your vessel.

In the 70s, 80s and 90s trawling was a viable business and lots of people went into it. Ibru was a major player in the trawling business. If you go to apapa then, you will see lots of Trawlers offloading fish. But now trawling is a suicide mission.

casualobserver:
The police are the most currupt followed by the opposition who try and taint the judiciary and INEC for their incompetence and lack of election strategy.

I disagree. The police have really improved over the years. Even though some police officers are extremely corrupt and they still collect bribes in police stations and on the road, this is child play when compared to other organisations like LASTMA, FRSC, Customs, INEC, EFCC, NDLEA, and civil servants in general. The police is the only organisation I know that punishes and dismisses officers caught with evidence of corruption. Have you seen any INEC, EFCC LASTMA, etc officials dismissed or demoted for collecting bribes?

To me the most corrupt organisations presently is INEC. There are still many honest judges at the lower courts who dispense justice without collecting bribes. The rot is in the higher courts - Appeal and Supreme courts.

koboko69:
Guy nor dey argue mumu thing. Does not matter if it was rupiblican or democrats. That is not the issue. You claim sifting through ballots was strange, and I said even in America politicians do same looking for ballots to disqualify to see if it will make a difference. What are you arguing about? Trump rallied against mail in ballots, and maby republican states used simple errors to disqualify many ballots in Texas, Arizona, and swing states. Republican ballots too were discarded if errors were found in them. I said it earlier, the onus is on NNPP to also show us ballots for APC that was not signed so they can be disqualified too. Abi na court go help NNPP look for evidence? I don tire for your matter abeg

I wonder why Nigerians don't believe in fairness, justice and equity, but to cheat and take undue advantage. APC was the party contesting the results, so it was APC that sifted through the ballot papers to disqualify NNPP votes. Now that a new result has been announced by the courts, natural justice demands that NNPP also should be allowed to sift through APC votes looking for unsigned ballots to disqualify APC votes. After that the total tally of all signed ballots can be tallied and the winner determined.

koboko69:
This guy is a clown sha. All those "mountain of evidence" brought to the court by your principlal in boxes contained what? What were they trying to do with it? Even in the united states here, one of the strategies used by Donald Trump was to look for ballots that could be canceled due to one mistake of the other. A lot of mail in ballots were discarded for simple errors like no signature on the outer envelopes, or no postmark by postal office, signature could not verifiedz You are here talking about "strange"

Let me help u

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/california-rejected-100000-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/18/texas-rejected-election-ballots/

We're they rejected by the courts or by election officials? The law gives election officials from polling units to the state level the powers to reject election results. Why didn't any of them reject the results based on non signing by the presiding officer. The law specifically gave the election officials the discretion to reject or accept unsigned ballot papers, why did the courts feel they should usurp that power from election official?

Kukutente23:
You're presenting the claim of the APC lawyers as fact. If voting was disrupted due to violence, what does the EA say should be done to the PU result?
Since the APC lawyers claim that BVAS was not used in those PUs, what does EA say should be the fate of PUs where BVAS was not used?
You're only shooting yourself in the foot out of ignorance

That's the problem with this verdict. If violence was proven to have occurred in a particular polling unit, it would have made sense to cancel the result of the while polling unit or at worst ask for a rerun, but to isolate votes of one particular party is suspect.

After all ballot snatching and violence is a very common feature of nigerian elections. This is not the first alleged case and it wouldn't be the last, but this is the first time a particular party is punished.

Ay4christ2010:
It can be sir, From the electoral law if the ballot paper is not stamp and sign by the presiding officer on the election day, it make the vote invalid. That's why presiding officer is always told to sign and stamp the ballot paper only when he or she is about to give it to the voters.

So if some hooligans came to hijacked the ballot papers and start tumb printing on it he/she will just leave them for his own security purposes and cooperate with them while those illiterate does not know that the failure of the presiding officer to sign and stamp their ballot papers make all their votes invalid.

Are you now saying that only ballot papers won by NNPP were the only ones unsigned by the electoral officer? Not one vote credited to APC, not one vote credited to PDP or any other party, but a whooping 165,000 ballots won by NNPP was cancelled because they were the only ones unsigned by the presiding officer.

An imperial Court would have asked inec to recount all ballot papers and cancel all those not stamped and signed by the presiding officer and not only sift through the ballot papers and remove only the ones won by NNPP.

This is the first time in the history of elections in Nigeria that one party is being singled put for punishment, while rewarding others for the same offence.

Gwin007:
Thanks you all for the advice I really appreciate it will help a lot

Before you make this life altering move, look at this video on Daddy Freeze Channel, of a married woman with children that took the same decision of relocating to the UK without her husband. That practically ended their marriage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp9ws4qv0j8?si=U0aiJjAOA2pQAIXi

Fearyourcreator:
If he had done well ... he would have been voted in again

In Nigeria, are elections based on "doing well"? How do you measure "doing well"? How many governors or presidents in Nigeria were elected or reelected based on "doing well"?

Christistruth03:
INEC Job is to hold Credible Elections and Produce a Winner

Any delay in doing it could create big Crisis. Like during Abiola time

Any problem after that let the Supreme courts sort out

Is INEC the only electoral body in the world? How come others countries including those much poorer and less politically stable than Nigeria are able to have credible elections, conclude all litigations and reruns before the winners are sworn in.

In Nigeria, INEC is not interested in holding credible elections. The are only interested in announcing winners and then asking other candidates to go court to prove they won the election. Meanwhile, inec is the one with all the evidence of the elections.

Christistruth03:
End of Story !

This is what Atiku and Peter Obi should have done at least after the Supreme Court ruled against them

Instead of trying to incite Civil and Ethnic Unrest

It was an Election!

Elections always have winners and losers

It's not about Atiku or Obi. It about the whole electoral system which promotes getting INEC to announce a winner by hook or crook, and then asking other candidates to go to court. Once the announce winner is sworn in and has his/her hands on the levers of power, they use that power to manipulate the system.
Atiku has been challenging the presidential elections since 2007, so you cannot claim to understand the system more than he does.

Addme:
Did you really mean the bolded. Since 1999 till date, no election conducted in Nigeria that we don't have at least 2 governors losing their seat

English comprehension my brother. I said under the present dispensation - meaning this Mahmood Yakubu / Tinubu regime. If INEC does not do the job, the appeal and supreme court will finish the job.
I alway use Rivers State and just recently Imo State as the poster examples of the new dispensation. If the Rivers elections could be validated by both INEC and the courts, I don't see any governor or president losing an election in the future.

Mccullum:
2023 presidential election is the second best election in Nigeria. BVAS exposed malpractices in increments of accredited voters.

That's not what's reflected by the report of international observers and the number of electoral cases in the courts. This election has the highest number of litigations contesting the elections.
Jonathan's elections had far fewer complaints and litigations.

BVAS and IReV has been sabotaged, the courts and INEC have rendered it useless and irrelevant.

IVORY2009:
This can never happen in Nigeria, but thanks to the former president Goodluck Jonathan that made it happen, the current political atmosphere in Nigeria can never see this happen, but I know someday we would get there.

Jonathan's case was an aberration. Goodluck Jonathan was from a minority tribe, he got the position of president by providence and despite opposition from the king makers in Nigeria. Jonathan was not that desperate to retain power as he had declared that his winning does not deserve the spilling of Nigerian blood. He was also a bit naive and was not ready to deploy the full force of the presidency to manipulate the system - both electoral body and the judiciary.
This cannot be said of the present system. Under the present system a governor cannot lose an election not to talk of the president. The executives have the whole system in the pockets including the election body, judiciary and the security forces. The elections are getting less credible and violent. The next set of elections are expected to be even worse.

Throwback:
The report said he burnt it.

He burnt it all.

The report is wrong. I watched the actual video on WhatsApp. He said he forgot his Secondary school certificate at home. The documents burnt did not include the secondary school certificate.

I am sure if you search on YouTube, you will find the actual video.

Throwback:
Many already suspected he is one of those who studied a discipline that is not very employable. Then a private university that has no standing in the Labour Market like Covenant, Babcock or Afe Babalola.

If he has never worked a job that is relevant to the discipline since 2010 when he graduated, it is a learning opportunity not to study for the sake of university admission or to graduate anyhow for the sake of certificate.

The very stupid action was burning his O'level certificate that would always be required for any other undergraduate study he choses to embark on to align his career experiences with an academic qualification.

In all he has helped to eliminate himself from contention, so that other job applicants can move forward with more ease.

University education is not required for selling hair wigs and extensions on Facebook or "Fashion Design, or carpentary/furniture business, or selling cosmetics or operating a barber shop or betting shop.

Pursue whatever vocation that will bring you money and avoid a delay of 5 or 6 years just to obtain a useless certificate just because you want to feel among.

He did not burn his O Level certificate.

Kukutente23:
The problem is not the building of bridge, hospital and rail. The problem is those things are being built with loans which means we can't afford them. Worse still, they are being built by foreign companies which means we are borrowing money to pay foreign companies to build infrastructure. It's a vicious cycle that leaves Nigeria at the short end

Gbam! The problem is not even the loans. With an interest of 4 -5% over a 20 year period, a semi competent government should be able to pay back comfortably. You need these critical infrastructures in order to develop the economy. The problem first and foremost is corruption. The projects are done at highly inflated costs, sometimes up to 5 times the actual cost. Then there is the issue of labour. The Chinese bring in most of their labour, thereby denying our own people the benefits of enjoying the economic impact of the liquidity of the loans. The money is repatriated back to China instead of it circulating within the country. Then there is the lack of manpower and training to build, operate and maintain these infrastructures. Our educational system is not in tune with our developmental goals, so after these infrastructures are build, we must rely on the builders who incidentally are our creditors to help us maintain them at exorbitant costs.

This is why it has become a viscous cycle. If we train our own people to build and maintain these machines and infrastructures, we would have been building and improving on them by now.

nairalanda1:
Also, economics 101...have a diversified economy that exports.

The government is not interested in diversifying the economy before we can even talk about export. Try and export simple charcoal or even garri from Nigeria. The stress you will face on the road transporting your goods to the ports and the officials at the ports will kill your spirit and profits before your goods gets to its destination. And we are not even talking about cost of production yet.

ArcSEMPECJ:
Thanks alot abeg, I wonder what they meant by 30%.....
iF a good am buying at #350 as of NoV 2022 is now sold at #1500…..
Then we have above 100% increase in inflation....
Let's not go back to 2014 before this evil Government came to snatch power....

I am sure KPMG was talking about monthly inflation and not yearly. If you are talking about inflation from this time last year before Tinubu's fuel subsidy policy came into effect, I am sure you will be talking of over 200% inflation.

Kenochi:
Economics 101: Refine your crude oil and stop importation of petrol,diesel and aviation fuel/kerosene

If those in government are expecting anything apart from this to reduce inflation,then they need to go back to school and question their certificate
Force NNPCL to supply crude oil to Dangote and all other modular refineries and conserve your foreign exchange.This is the only short term measure to stop this galloping inflation
The cost of production is very high as we run a Diesel Economy, our Electricity is kaput and we rely on Diesel to power our industries

Here in ikorodu, which happens to have one of the best electric supply in lagos, we have not had light during the day for up to a week. And you expect businesses to be run on petrol of N600/litre.

The poverty that will hit Nigerians by January next year is still doing push ups.

LeeSantos:
I haven’t heard of a country that numbers are so useless like this country. Every positive stats predicted change to negative before the day or week ends.

Imagine! And Tinubu was presented to Nigerian as an accomplished accountant, a economist and a technocrat, but up till now he has no economic agenda for Nigeria, not even a economic team. Nigerias economy is just floating, downstream at that.

Femiairboy:
You’re talking to a Chartered analyst, I know all these. I’m a capitalist at heart, I have a laissez-faire outlook when it comes to policy and the economy so they can do whatever they want with their finances. However, where is the place of patriotism?

This your question dey vex me well well. What do you mean by where is his patriotism. I am sure he is more patriotic than Tinubu, Atiku and probably Obi also, and most of our elected and appointed government officials. Nigeria is the only country I know that a governor or minister sends all his or family abroad, have all his or her investments abroad, goes abroad for any medical treatment, spends all holidays abroad, and then japa the day he leaves office to permanently sell the abroad. And you are asking ordinary struggling Nigeria "where is your patriotism"?

JamParkMe:
Traveling overases with just a tourist visa is like voluntarily hopping into a slave ship during the times of slavery. If you were a young and single guy, I can understand the risk vs reward but as a married guy with children, I don't think it's very wise.

You will basically have to start afresh, working menial jobs for less than minimum wage because anyone hiring an illegal immigrant will exploit them as they have no legs to stand on and are desperate for work. Your best hope of eventually getting papers would be to do a fake marriage with a citizen but that comes with very high costs, abuse from the citizen and risk of the immigration services denying such marriage after all the money and years spent.

How about your wife and kids? How is your wife supposed to get intimacy when you are gone for years? Don't you realize, intimacy like food and shelter is a basic human need? You will likely be cheating on your wife but woe betide your wife if she sleeps around. How about your kids, who will be the father figure they need at such tender age? Most of these cultists and armed robbers you see today had no responsible fathers in their lives.

I will say you should sit down and think outside the box for ways to improve your business or for new business ideas. Don't let the pressure of japa syndrome make you make a move you will ultimately regret. I too have felt the urge to abandon it all and relocate overseas, but the risk vs reward doesn't make any sense and there are no guarantees in life.

This is basically all I have to say. Who will father your kids and husband your wife while you are away struggling to find your feet? You will miss the most important part of your kids life.

Japaing with a tourist visa is the worst decision you can make. After 6 months, you would be like a fugitive running from police and immigration. You might need to get married (either fake or real) to guarantee your continuous stay. And if you take the marriage route, you might have to spend more than 5 years before you can leave the country.


You are lucky, at least you have a business. Use the money and double your hassle to improve your business. It's not easy, as nothing is easy in today's world, but with determination you will succeed.

tesppidd:
Am I the one to ask that question?

Am I NLC or do I appear like a Bayelsan or a Kogite.?

God knows that if Bayelsa and Kogi governments are owing salaries and such strikes are to happen today today in those states I would support 1 million percent.

God knows.

Nigerians seem to lose their humanity on the alter of politics, religion or tribalism. Workers have not been paid for 6 months, I mean humans with children and families. NLC led by the national president held a protest to force the government to pay or at least dialogue. He was brutalised and almost killed. Today he has been flown abroad for life threatening treatment. Instead of sane humans to condemn the inhumanity of insensitivity of the governor, some heartless people are justifying the actions of the government and condemning the victim instead.

chidiokay:
These is not about justification,[b] Rather should be a Lesson [/b]that there is no Authority outside jurisdiction. Ajaero should have known the confines of his authority.
No governor in Nig. owes the NLC president recognition or dialogue

what is going on is macho contest, two elephant fighting and already the grasses are suffering. NLC is just being insensitive as govt they castigate

You have still not answered my question? Should the thugs that assaulted a whole NLC be prosecuted or commended by the government? Since as you said Ajaero did not know the confines of his authority, should the remedy be brutalisation or outright killing by government supporters?

What do you mean by "No governor in Nig. owes the NLC president recognition or dialogue"? Do any governor owe the Nigerian president recognition or dialogue then, since the state is supposedly an independent entity?

chidiokay:
Need i remind you that AJaero is President of NLC as the titles implies he is bound to oversee national matters broadly
AJaero Lost is protection/privileges the moment he cross is jurisdiction, Ajaero has no business leading a state rally.
Incase you don't know NLC in every state has a chairperson who is the appropriate authority to represent the interest of workers of that state. he alone the governor is compel to recognise
The thugs were fully aware Ajaero acted outside his jurisdiction that was the motivation, ask yourselves why was the NLC chairperson of Imo not brutalized.
Ajaero pass his boundary that is why they singled him out

In other words his brutalisation and almost lynching was justified.

plaindealer:
So, until arrests are made, Nigeria must grind to a stop, our economy must be destroyed, jobs must be lost and Nigerians must suffer?

The way you people think sef.

No wonder the SE is a sad mess.

Who told you I am from the SE? You guys tribalize everything.

What do you mean by "economy must be destroyed, jobs must be lost and Nigerians must suffer"? So it a labour strike that will nuke the Nigerian economy?

Strikes are an effective weapon in any democracy
in the world to force employers and governments to the negotiating table. Strikes happen in UK, France and indeed Europe like pure water, and the economies have not been nuked. Strikes have even happened in Nigeria too many times to remember, the economy has not been nuked.
Petrol at N600 has not nuked the economy
Dollar at N1200 has not nuked the economy
An external debt profile of over $14 billion has not nuked the economy.

It's strike by Labour that would completely destroyed the Nigerian economy.