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PoliticsRe: N/D Group Tells Asari, Don’t Blame Jonathan’s Defeat To S/west, North Conspiracy by wirinet(m): 7:29am On Apr 04, 2015
lionstone:
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER U UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF A FREEDOM FIGHTER? U WANT HIM TO BUILD IT IN NIGERIA SO THAT THEY CAN FREZE IT AND RENDER HIM POOR AND POWERLESS.
IT IS LIKE ASKING AN ANGEL TO INVEST IN DEVILS EMPIRE.
ASARI MAKES SENSE IN THAT ONE.
Asari, A freedom fighter? That is the joke of the century. Whos freedom has he been fighting for? Maybe the freedom of his pockets and those of his criminal gang. The real freedom fighters of the Niger Delta are martyrs like Ken Saro Wiwa, who fought Abacha to a stand still and refuse all financial inducements from Abacha and shell.
PoliticsRe: N/D Group Tells Asari, Don’t Blame Jonathan’s Defeat To S/west, North Conspiracy by wirinet(m): 7:24am On Apr 04, 2015
havocypie:
This claim is unverified!
You must be living on planet mars. Google Asari's interview where he listed his various investments during his arrest in Benin republic.
PoliticsRe: N/D Group Tells Asari, Don’t Blame Jonathan’s Defeat To S/west, North Conspiracy by wirinet(m): 7:22am On Apr 04, 2015
lionstone:
[color=#990000] NIGER DELTA IF U ARE UNITED U CAN MOVE MOUNTAIN.
I THINK ASARI HAS FUTURE FOR U PEOPLE.
MARK MY WORD ALL THOSE THAT WON'T SUPPORT HIM ARE SABOTUERS REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO THE IGBO'S DURING THE WAR.
ONCE AGAIN BE UNITED.
Asari has future for us people? Abeg which kind of future is that? Since you Igbos are so much in love with him, we dash you, so that he can plot your future for you, i am sure you want a bright future too.

We as people of the whole south - south want a future of development, education for our children, peace and justice. We reject Asari kind of development of war, oil spills and selfish interest. He should take such developments to igbo land or better still Benin Republic.
PoliticsPlease Help Keep PDP Alive In Order To Save Our Democracy by wirinet(op): 9:41am On Apr 02, 2015
Nigerians must be congratulated for displacing the PDP from the centre, it was no an easy task. Even our igbo brothers contributed to the ousting of PDP as they did not give the PDP the humongous figures they gave the party in 2011. PDP had become too arrogant and insensitive not only to the Nigerian masses but also to its members including its founding members. Complaints by the masses were waved aside, policies were implemented without support or regard for the ordinary people. Members grievances were brushed aside and told to go to hell, leading to decamping of very prominent members. PDP indeed messed up at the national level.

After defeating PDP at the National level, we must now fight again to make sure that PDP does not fail. Allowing PDP to fail will put us in a worse situation we found ourselves when PDP was supreme. Let me explain further.

To achieve order in any aspect of life, there has to be balance - the chinese call it ying-yang, the west refer to this balance as karma. This order must be a balance of two opposite but equal forces - electron and proton, God and devil, north and south, male and female, up and down, darkness and light. Where there is an imbalance in any one of these factors, imbalance ensures. Likewise on the political sphere, a balance is achieved only when we have two equally strong but opposing parties. If we take a look at the most successful countries in the world you will see that their political space has evolved two equally strong but opposing parties, and if you look at most failed or failing states, you will notice the general thread is a uni-party system, either a one party state or a one party dominated state. Nigeria was slipping into a one party system until Tinubu was able to revive the opposition and created a bi-party system in Nigeria. The greates mistake we will ever make is to allow APC become the dominant party and revert back to a one party dominated state.

If we allow APC to dominate the Federal Government, the Federal Legislature and the state governments and legislatures, Nigeria would have reverted back to a one party dominated state. APC would also became arrogant and insensitive to the yearnings and aspirations of Nigerians. Party leaders like Tinubu would behave like Gods, the president might become dictatorial. So I impoy Nigerians to help balance out political power between PDP and APC. Already APC controls the Federal Government and both chambers of the National Assembly, we should support PDP to win at least half of the states in Nigeria. It is important for PDP to win at least one of the 3 key states - namely Lagos, Rivers or Kano. Lagos and Kano is within reach as Kano is certainly APC. We should support Jimi Agbaje in Lagos. Lagos can act as the opposition centre just like it did under Tinubu when Lagos was the sole AD state. Imagine where we would have been today if PDP took Lagos along with the other south western states.

So please help support Jimi Agbaje for the Governorship. I really would not like to see the situation where the lagos state governor and the vice president were norminated by one man.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: War In APC Over Oluremi Tinubu For Senate President by wirinet(m): 4:52pm On Apr 01, 2015
Oluremi nor any other senator from the south west cannot be senate president, the number 2 and number 3 persons in Nigeria cannot be from the same region. Since the president will be from the north east, the vice president from the south west, the senate president should be from the south east or south south. But are there any APC senators from the south East or South South? Only One senator from Edo. But then he is a green horn so he is unlikely to be voted for by fellow senators. So we are in a dilimma as regarding federal character of principal offices. I think the north central would be mandated to produce the senate president and i think it will naturally fall to Bukola Saraki. Even if the South East has one senator from APC (a second term senator), he would have clinched the ticket on a platter of gold, but as things stand its is impossible for the south east to produce the senate president. That is why we had been warning that the Igbos should not put all their eggs in one basket.

I want to know the situation with the speakership, can an igbo clinch the house of representatives? I hope they can because i would want the soulth east to at least clinch the number 4th position.
PoliticsRe: A Thread Specially Dedicated To Governor "Rotimi Amaechi" For His Determination. by wirinet(m): 1:00pm On Apr 01, 2015
PDP lost the presidency the moment they lost Amaechi, i said this much immediately the fight between PDP and Amaechi started. For Amaechi to win the Nigerian Governors Forum elections dispite the opposition from PDP signalled how the future would look like. Amaechi was the most respected governor among all governors in Nigeria, he was the one that dragged the 5 aggrieved PDP governors to APC. He was the main coordinator and motivator of APC. Without Amaechi APC would not have been a formidable force. All the Key Strategy of Buhari were Amaechi's idea, the decision to boycott debates and use town hall meetings instead, the decision to embark on international diplomacy to make Buhari more acceptable internationally (despite his controversial past), etc.

Like Babangida said, the gravest mistake Jonathan made was letting Amaechi go and fighting Baba.
PoliticsRe: Presidential Election: Femi Fani Kayode Sings New Song! by wirinet(m): 10:55am On Mar 29, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
gringringringrin This guy saw an oppurtunity to make money and he took it. It could be over for GEJ but not for him. This guy always has a plan B. Very Good Bad Guy
Thank you my guy. If na you Nko, won't you do the same? FFK was a broke ass who was not really appreciated in the APC, he saw an opportunity to make cool cash as he knew GEJ was desperate. He played his cards right and bingo he got a juicy appointment to take his share of 21 billion campaign money with the added benefit of having his corruption case dropped.

Which mortal can refuse such an opportunity. If Buhari wins, he will just take his cash and go and cool down in UK, with one ogbonge Igbo babe (since he has a crush on fine Igbo girls), then come back later when the heat has died down to lobby the new government.
PoliticsRe: Attention: Ward 022, Ejigbo Lagos Is Being Rigged by wirinet(m): 4:50pm On Mar 28, 2015
Reiyvinn:
WOW!!! Yesssss!! Security Agents arrive almost immediately. They are all over the place.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, the Balot Box has been returned and there was no shooting!!!!

SIGH OF RELIEF!!!
So what is the state of the ballot box, did it come back with stuffed ballot papers or it came back empty? What about other voting materials like result sheet, are the intact?

I hope the damage had not been done and the so called return is not film trick.

Please try and take pictures if you can.
PoliticsRe: Fake Ballot Papers: ‪#‎soldiers‬ Arrest 9 APC Member With Fake Ballot Paper by wirinet(m): 9:22pm On Mar 27, 2015
I might be having myopia as i can seem to find the title of the thread in the body of the article. Can you please highlight and bold the parts that specified that 9 persons were arrested inside one truck and they were APC party members.

Thanks
PoliticsRe: GEJ Vs GMB: Who Do You Think Will Win Tomorrow's Presidential Election? by wirinet(m): 3:14pm On Mar 27, 2015
GenBuhari:
gmb

[b][size=15pt]Some questions to ask about Boko Haram:

1. How is a rag tag bunch of militants capable of capturing an entire town from a powerful nation with a strong military with a standing army of 300,000 men?

2. How did a rag tag bunch of militants acquire the type of fire power to clear a whole town or did they accomplish this using merely the small arms we see them carrying in rare videos they release?

3. Why would Boko Haram want to clear a Nigerian town? Is it possible to form an Islamic state in a ghost town?

4. What is the military advantage in guerrilla warfare of the guerrillas clearing towns they captured of its entire population?

5. Is it not an important part of guerrilla warfare, for the guerrillas to hide within the general local population?

6.How can Boko haram hide in a ghost town

7. Why would Boko haram advertise its location by painting its logo on flags, buildings and vehicles is this a good strategy to conceal itself in a guerrilla war?

8. Why are the multinational force that is using lethal force in conducting a war in our territory, not under the command and control of our military.

9. Is there any Nigerian with Chadian army to monitor their activities in Nigeria

10. Since all these towns have been captured by Chadian troops, why has the towns not been handed back to Nigeria?

11. Why has Chadian troops not allowed internally displaced Nigerians return home?

12. Are Chadian troops really Boko Haram?

13. How could Boko Haram be so powerful that it not only start defeating the powerful Nigerian military after a 6 years war, but it even after several months of war, a multinational force that is getting assistance from America and France has been unable to defeat it.

14. Is it possible for Nigerian towns to be in the hands of Chad without the collusion of Nigeria

15. Why is the so called war against Boko Haram shrouded in secrecy?

16. Why are there is no geniune independent video footage of the so called war against Boko Haram?

17. Where are the war front reports from international war correspondents? Why are we just getting unverified photos released by the Chadian army and whatever unverifiable story they wish to accompany the photos.


Is any of this making sense?

If something doesn't make sense it usually means that a lie is being told.



Read my signature below for an insight into what is really going on.[/size][/b]
E be like say na only you get sense for this obodo Nigeria. The Government and its supporters are getting carried away by pyrric victory. This so called victory is just an election gimmick, Boko haram would surely come back more deadly after all the gra gra dies down. Boko Haram is strategizing and evolving, their alligiance to ISIS is strategic. Nigeria might be the new haven for ISIS. All the conditions that allowed Boko Haram to germinate and grow into the monster it is today are still in place. Weak border controls, non existent or weak intelligience network, high poverty and illiteracy rate among the population, lack of any social infrastructure, lack of a well trained, equipped and discipline army and last but not the least a very corrupt government. All these are recipe for the nurture and growth for insurgency.
PoliticsRe: Aisha Buhari,the Teenager That Married A 48 Year Old by wirinet(m): 11:49am On Mar 27, 2015
OneNaira6:
Nobody is justifying child marriage? You obviously didn't read this thread at all. Majority of people are justifying a 40 year old leaving his wife to marry an 18 years olf, which in my book is child marriage, by implying the fact 18 years old and women younger than her are more likely less "promiscuous" than those in their 20s or 30s or 40's or more therefore, it's justifiable and logically for a old man to go after a teenager. Incase you weren't aware, reread each replies especially those attacking Babyosisi. Remove the attack and read the meaning of each their post.
Only a small handful actually justified this "culture" by implying an 18 years old is old enough to choose her path since she's an adult. Even then it is is still frowned upon worldwide.
Let's use America for example. Currently tyga, a 30 year d rapper, was verbally abused insulted simply for choosing to date a 19 years old. Him and another rapper are currently labeled "pedophile" by the social media and ppl due to their girlfriends. One is 19 and the other 20 while the rappers are in their 30s. Mind you, USA is more open minded than Nigeria and the official "adult" is 18 and up. He eventually denied his relationship to her and claim "friendship" in order to reduce the labeling and mockery.
Just because "18" is classified as an "adult" by the law does not mean the entire world are still not aware an 18 years old is still child and their mind is still developing. I took psychology of adolescent and I can tell you right now an 18 mind is no different than a 16 years. Their mind is still being controlled by their "id" side hence are more prone to choose anything "fun" than logical thus, most psychologist as well as many medical professionals still considered them "adolescence" or as my professor calls it "developing mind". The law does not remove biology in my opinion.


Likewise you are making assumptions. For both her children to be in their mid and early 20s, it is highly possible she had her first child prior to her 20s. Plus, one person on here mentioned on this thread that she married buhari when she was 20 and supposedly met when she was 18 years old. Idk which side of the story is accurate but either way, it destroys the concept of her being "virgin flower". She's slept with him prior to their marriage like most women nowadays either which stories you choose.


Likewise neither you, or any of those that bashed babyosisi for opening this topic can justify babyosisi was a sexual pervert prior to her marriage. If you all can believe she is and create that assumptions in order to justify y'all myopic mind therefore, I'm entitled to hold assumption as well for aisha. What goes around, comes back around. None of you all can prove aisha was a virgin prior to meeting buhari. Rumor is she was Buhari's daughter's friend. Idk if that's true but I'm going to assume it is; considering she went after her friend's father that to me is a sexual pervert child, a home wrecker and much more.
Btw: spare me the story she's a muslim hence a virgin. I've slept with arab girls especially Moroccans girls that were 100% Muslims and one thing I can tell you, being muslim does not automatically prove "virginity" nowadays. They actually created surgery to revirgin women nowadays.
I am sorry to say, you do not talk like someone in the medical profession much less someone who had ever taken a course in psychology. If you had done basic biology, you will be aware that an 18 yr is physically and pyschologically ready to conceive. Throughout history the age of adulthood had been contentious and varied. In primitive and ancient societies a girl is deemed an adult the minute she see her first period, but with medical advances, we learn that a girls body is not matured for child bearing until she is about 16, nor is she pyschologically ready for motherhood. So the age of adulthood for girls was shifted to 16. Even then a lot of girls are not matured enough until they are around 17. So the age of 18 was universally agreed to be 18, because at 18 most girls girls are physically, mentally and pyschologically matured for child bearing.

If you are in the medical profession as you claim, you will be aware that there are three types of ages in relation to people; There is chronological or calender age which is the age from when you were born. The second age is Psychological age, which is the age one feels and behaves and the last age is the physiological age, which is the age the physical body looks ( some 50 yr olds look like 30, while some 30 yr olds look ike 50), and all three mature at different times.

So it is impossible to determine a ladies maturity solely on the basis of the chronological age, but it is generally agreed that at 18 years a girl is physchologically, physiologically and mentally matured enough to marry and bear the responsibilities.
PoliticsRe: Aisha Buhari,the Teenager That Married A 48 Year Old by wirinet(m): 10:48pm On Mar 26, 2015
OneNaira6:
So let me get this straight, this people are on here justifying child marriage to someone old enough to be her dad by implying an 18 year is not a wh0re while those that marry in their 20s and 30s are? Are you fools honestly listening to unaselves while you type.
Nobody here is justifying child marriage, most Nigerians were incensed by Sani Yarima wedding to a 14 year old minor. What we are saying is that an 18 year old is an adult in Nigeria and most countries of the world and if she decides to marry a 90 year old man and her family agrees, that is her perogative. It should not distress you so much.
Do any of you all have proof that aisha was a virgin prior to her marriage to Buhari? The fact that both her children are old enough to be in college actually implies that aisha herself was pregnant for Buhari prior to her marriage.
you are just making unfounded assumptions, Aisha Buhari is 44 years old, so it is very possibile to give birth to her first child at 20.
Are you people trying to act that you all are not aware that most women lose their virginity before their 18 years of age and many have had multiple relationship with multiple men prior to 18 years old? Hell their are 16 years with prior sexual partners than a 24 year old. You doubt me? Go on YouTube or Google and search for it. That amount of people found will amaze una.
Assumptions and more assumptions. this is a topic about Aish Buhari, it is not about sexual pervessiveness of teanagers. You have no evidence that Aisha Buhari was a sexual pervert before she married Mohammadu Buhari.
Are you all trying to pretend teenage pregnancy is not a global phenomenon as we speak including in that nation you all call Nigeria. The only difference between Nigeria and the rest is that other nations accept it while in Nigeria parents hide their children pregnancy or force the child to abortion.
Are we really going to try and Fake up a stupid analogy in other to justify a grown ass man sleeping with his daughter's friend.
[quote]Off topic again. teenage pregnacy is a global problem, here we are talking of marriage of a girl above 18 years. It is legal in most countries on earth.
[quote]As for those bringing ojukwu to it all. No one denies ojukwu slept with a woman half his age. Just like buhari, both are pedophilia disgrace of men. Sleeping with a woman young enough to be your child is not only disgusting but outright pitiful to be honest. You can't ger a woman your age thus seek out of a fucking baby and then justify by claiming "culture" or something as stupid as "less sexual partners than someone my age:. Get the f2k out of here with that BS
You need consult an english dictionary to learn the meaning of the word pedophilia. It does not include sleeping with ladies over 18 years and definitely not include sleeping with a woman young enough to be your grandchild. There is no moral, legal or social law that mandate couples must be of similar age before having sexual relations. Some women prefer older men while some men prefer younger women. It just happens you prefer women the same age as you, that is your preference, you cannot force your preference on others.
Oh one more thing babyosisi has every right to make a thread in regards to it because she is a woman and this problem, which buhari is guilty of, is currently something women worldwide are fighting including in muslim dominated nation. Instead of running una mouths calling her "tribalistic", why don't una go ahead and call every women addressing this problem and getting others to notice about it including in UN "tribalistic" for pointing a disgusting pedophilia "culture".
That's like my 23 years old, leaving women in their 20s and looking for a 12 or 13 years old as a wife. Sick as f2k. #spits on the floor
It is only you and the OP that is seeing this as your problem, In the rest of the world it is not a problem at all, including the west. Princess Diana at barely 19 married a 34 year old prince charles, and it celebrated the world over. Celine dion at 24 married René Angélil at 50 years of age, and they had been going out for some years before they decided to get married and no body complained. They are millions of 18 - 20 year old marrying 35 to 50 year old men the world over and nobody is complaining. As long as it is a consentual and not a forced marriage.
PoliticsRe: Aisha Buhari,the Teenager That Married A 48 Year Old by wirinet(m): 6:24pm On Mar 26, 2015
somegirl1:
How does Ojukwu marrying a girl young enough to be his daughter even begin to justify Buhari's marriage to a teenager?
Regardless of ethnic group, it is sick.
How girls who marry men significantly older are able to be intimate with them is beyond me. Disgusting.
How does what two consenting adults do affect your life? You lot are hypocrites. I am sure you claim to be a good christian. Now, i have one question for you, how old was Mary (mother of Jesus) when she was bethroted to Joseph (the widower), and how old was she when she gave birth to Jesus?

It beats me why who others are intimate with disturbs you so much. Are you sure you are not frigid?
PoliticsRe: Don’t Order My Sack, Mbu Begs Court by wirinet(m): 4:04pm On Mar 26, 2015
ozoigbondu:
See how APC dey fear my super cop mbu.lf you are silly enough to shoot a police officer protecting you and me then ecpect your head and that of your fellow thugs to roll.APC and their fellow goons can do whatever they like or say anything but mbu is here to stay and his mission is simple-: disband all rigging mechanism put in place and decimate all agbero boys running around in lagos

Mbu for IGP
GEJ till 2019
Nice advice. What happens if a policeman is silly enough to shoot a civilian going about his lawful duties because of refusal to part with bribe? civilains should organize and Kill 20 policemen in retaliation? I am loving you and Mbu's sense of justice.
PoliticsRe: Aisha Buhari,the Teenager That Married A 48 Year Old by wirinet(m): 11:37am On Mar 26, 2015
It is a pity that some people are blinded by jealousy. At 44 Aisha Buhari had achieved far more than the OP or her type can ever achieve. She is a graduate of prestigious institutions in Nigeria and UK, she has a responsible, loving, well respected husband, 2 beautiful undergraduate daughters and with a possibility of becoming first lady. Some jobless, husbandless, childless, old hag would be hating.
PoliticsRe: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by wirinet(m): 6:21pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:
So how does buhari proves to us that he was educated up to WASC level as deposed in his affidavit and as a requirement in the new electoral act unlike in the past?
He will have to show evidence that he was educated up to school certificate level by providing a certified true copy of his certificate or a statement of result from his alma mater. If PDP raises questions about the authenticity of the certificate or the statement of result, the school will be called to defend the statement of result and provide a record of pupils that sat for the 1961 cambridge/WASC exams. All these would be thrashed out at the courts.

Having said that, i think Buhari and APC were a bit careless and underestimated the desperation of PDP to attack his candidiacy. PDP has attacked APC right from inception, they even tried denying the APC the use of the APC acronym. Buhari should have used the Diploma he got from US War College as his qualification when filling the INEC form, and allow PDP to argue whether the diploma met the minimum qualification.
PoliticsRe: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by wirinet(m): 4:50pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:
You are still deviating from the topic. The requirement was for certificates to be submitted and Jonathan submitted all his certificates to INEC. There is nowhere it is required to submit thesis but certificates.

UNIPORT has issued an official statement declaring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. When will buhari contact Cambridge to do the same for himhuh Since you have no regard for UNIPORT, I believe you will have a lot of respect for Cambridge if they should issue an official statement declaring that they issued WASC to buhari.

Now my question still remains, why is buhari avoiding the Cambridge? Is there leprosy of ebola plague at Cambridge? Even if buhari does not want to visit Cambridge physically, fine and accepted. We are in 2015 and there are modern ways of sending messages using emails and all that. is it that buhari cannot afford a computer or internet connection or what?

WHY IS BUHARI AVOIDING CAMBRIDGE that supposedly issued him a WASC? Jonathan is not avoiding UNIPORT oo. wink grin grin
There is no requirements for certificates to be submitted, just like there is no provision for Birth certificates, Passport and other documents to be submitted. A presidential candidiate only need to be acceptable by INEC, and once INEC accepts a candidiate, only the courts can disqualify a candidiate. Since an eligiblity case is in court, Buhari now needs to prove to the courts that he is a Nigerian, he is above 40yrs of age and he has a minimum of school certificate level qualification or its equivalent.

Buhari is not obliged to show you his certificates, his birth certificates, his marriage certificate or any other certificate, just like Jonathan is not obliged to show me his PHD thesis.
PoliticsRe: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by wirinet(m): 2:51pm On Mar 25, 2015
k9ine:
Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: my viewpoint
Sometimes I just sit and wonder how our politicians choose to play politics in this country of ours. In all sincerity, the fears I have about the All Progressives Congress APC as a party, and Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as its presidential candidate are beginning to be confirmed by them. Let it be known that I do not belong to a political party, or engaged to write this up; but it is what my heart has been resonating all this while. I will speak as objectively as I can without hate or prejudice and I want you to see it thus.
All this brouhaha about certificate or no certificate should have been laid to rest a long time ago, but it does appear we have a penchant for deception and very glaring lies which will not make us to think of Nigeria first, but our bellies. Why is it that we like to complicate very simple things of life, obtaining or tendering a copy of certificate is not rocket science, so I wonder why we choose to make it a galactic endeavour.
You are not objective at all as you are propounding the same arguments put forward by Fani kayode and PDP.
The certificate saga is just a distraction by you and pdp. The constitution is very clear on the minimum academic qualifications of a presidential candidate. It says the minimum academic qualification is School Certificate Level or its equivalent and it went out to list the equivalent of School Certificate level. According to the constitution's definition of school certificate level, 10 years experience as a civil servant with any course lasting more than 6 months is equivalent to Secondary School Certificate level. Even if we assume erroneously that Buhari did not sit for Cambridge WASC exams, he definitely has met the minimum requirements prescribed by the constitution.

Is absurd to insist that someone who rose to become a governor, a minister, a head of state and a General in the Nigerian army is not deemed to have met the minimum qualifications to vie for the president of Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Photos From 2015 NEDG Presidential Debate, GEJ Present, GMB Absent by wirinet(m): 7:00pm On Mar 22, 2015
nduchucks:
Oga, you can't eat your cake and have it.

Below is the Clueless one debating alone on state television after shunning two major presidential debates ahead of the polls

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2236884_cusersa949824desktopmumu_jpegee2c2735b4868c91031e54bd3352398d

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. ko kwa?


Scooby, abeg help me laugh at the Clueless one:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/229503_ROFLMAODog_gif3fa44b12f55ba64fc785c3a5794ba92e
Just saw this picture of what someone calls a debate. Is this a debate? I think some people need to demand a refund of their school fees, right from secondary school. They need to look up a the meaning of the word debate. How can one debate with himself?

Maybe TVC should organize a debate where Buhari would debate with himself, maybe that would satisfy those asking Buhari for a debate.
PoliticsRe: Photos From 2015 NEDG Presidential Debate, GEJ Present, GMB Absent by wirinet(m): 6:51pm On Mar 22, 2015
OLADD:
You're a liar. Jonathan attended one of the two debates of 2011. If Buhari was not comfortable with AIT, why did he decline that of Channels?
You have just been parroting "Jonathan attended one of the two debates of 2011" without providing the proof that Jonathan attended any presidential debate in 2011. Please provide us with links or pictures of the presidential debate Jonathan attended in 2011.

Since PDP had never thought presidential debates were important in the past, i wonder why the cries all of a sudden.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Posts That Abuse GEJ Get Much Likes? by wirinet(m):
fallout87:
This.

They believe the lies that the president is at fault for everything wrong in their lives.

Ironically, they never hold their own Governors and Senators accountable, who truly are even a bigger part of the problem
If we are to apportion responsibility then GEJ has the lion (or should i say the whale) share of responsibilities. According to the sharing formula GEJ alone controls 52% of all revenue earned by Nigeria. Each governor controls 1/35 of 26%, while each local government chairman is supposed to control 1/774 of 22% of revenue accrued to Nigeria. So Naturally people should hold GEJ for most things wrong with their lives
PoliticsRe: The Falling Naira Is A Blessing by wirinet(m): 10:23pm On Mar 20, 2015
KevinBrown:
Ignorance again!

Pls always make research before commenting
What is ignorance here. My first cousin that stays with me works with michellin and they have closed down their plant and resorted to importing directly from france. So please show us Innoson tyre manufacturing plant.
PoliticsRe: The Falling Naira Is A Blessing by wirinet(m): 10:20pm On Mar 20, 2015
KevinBrown:
Yes! This is what I'm saying. It means the true cost of the cable should be N12,000 not N3,000. It means the government has been subsidizing us all along due to an overvalued currency. And since our local industries can compete with the foreign ones (in price), they had to close up.

But now, if foreign products are more expensive than the locally made ones, people will start patronizing the local ones. And due to economy of scale the price of the locally made product price will also reduce.

That's the secret behind all this chinese goods you are seeing. They are all enjoying economy of scale.
Local finished products cannot be cheaper that Chinese product because of so many reasons, chiefly because;
Up to 90% of the raw materials are imported

Up to 80% of energy (petrol and diesel) used are imported.

High tarrifs and duties on imported raw materials

Lack of infrastructures, companies have to run and maintain generators, boreholes and sometimes build their own access roads.

High cost of borrowing money. Interest rates by banks hovers between 20 - 25%. Interest rate in china is between 4 - 5%.

Multiple taxation by Local state and federal governments.

So even if the naira is devalued to N1000 to $1, local finished goods can never be cheaper than imported goods.
PoliticsRe: Legal Practitionals Only! Constitutionally, Should Buhari Be Disqaulified? by wirinet(m): 10:10pm On Mar 20, 2015
mikeansy:
And who says INEC is diametrically opposed to the constitution ?

The INEC form is an appendage to the constitution in this context!
Are you implying that it is the INEC form that is the only proof that;

Buhari is a Nigerian,

Buhari is above 40 years of age,

or that Buhari is educated up to secondary school certificate level or it equivalent;

This INEC form must override the Nigerian constitution.
PoliticsRe: The Falling Naira Is A Blessing by wirinet(m): 10:01pm On Mar 20, 2015
yugkapmeet:
You see, nigeria does not have the ability to maintain anything they start. Also, you see innoson, of everything they build their cars with, at least 40% is still coming from abroad. So, it doesn't matter. We are still importing.
40% ke? what does Innoson actually manufacture? Do they manufacture the alloy sheets used for making the chassis? do they manufacter the engines, gear box, pistons and rings, headlights, etc,. Even the tyres, do they have tyre manufacturing plant inside their complex? even Mitchellin that used to have a tyre plant closed it down and resorted to importing from france instead.

I am sure that up to 80% of their materials are imported.
PoliticsRe: The Falling Naira Is A Blessing by wirinet(m): 9:55pm On Mar 20, 2015
KevinBrown:
All this Raw Materials you listed, they can't be produced in Nigeria is that what you mean?

Sir, don't be deceived by stereotypes. All this stuffs does not require a rocket science knowledge to produce.

And FYI, innoson also produce tyres
I never said the raw materials i listed can't be produced in Nigeria, what i said was that the raw materials are not produced in Nigeria and so have to be imported.

What do you mean stereotypes? I am talking about what realilty is on ground and you are talking about stereotypes. I am sure you are either a student or someone who is not on ground to know realities on ground.

Let me tell you a strange experience i had this week. I am expanding my office and due to my tight budget, i decided to buy materials myself and just pay artisans like electricians for their labour. I have always bought made in Nigeria wires and cables because they are very good. I requested for made in Nigeria cables and i was given cables with Nigeria engraved on the wires. It was not until i got to my office that i noticed that instead of writing made in Nigeria on the wires, what was written was made for Nigeria. I was furious because i know the difference between in and for, so i took the cables back that i want cables that is made in Nigeria and not made for Nigeria. After trying to convince me unsuccessfully that the cables were made in Nigeria, he then opened up that the wires were actually made in China but for a nigerian company. He said actual made in Nigeria wires would cost about N12,000 for a 1.5mm 3 core cable, while the made for Nigeria one costs N3,000.

So who would buy a cable for N12,000 when you can get one (even if it is inferior quality) for N3,000. So expect all cable manufacturing companies to close very soon.
PoliticsRe: The Falling Naira Is A Blessing by wirinet(m): 9:25pm On Mar 20, 2015
KevinBrown:
This is exactly what we are fighting against. Other than hi-techs, there is virtually nothing we can't source for locally. Why wasting money on imports?

What are we looking for?

Is it clothes? Go to aba

Is it computer/internet equipments? Zinox produces such.

Is it cars? Innoson produces such

Is it Education? Covenant University is a standard university.

Etc...


I don't know why many of you are not seeing it, but this is good. If imported goods become too expensive, then there will be demand for local substitutes. It might be inferior to previously imported ones at first, but with time it will develop in quality. It will help to create more jobs.

And those that are clamoring for higher valued currency, believe me you are just subsidizing the extravagance lifestyle of the rich, at your own expense.
And where do you go for the fabrics, threads, bottons, sewing machines and other accessories to make the clothes?

Where do you get the components and equipments needed to make Zinox computers?

Where do you get the engines, tyres, gear boxes, steel or alloy frame bodies, and all other components and machinery needed to make innoson cars?

Where is Covenant university in the list of best universities in the world or even in Africa. What contributions had covenant university made to Nigeria in the field of science, technology and even other humanities.

"Aba made" products can never compete with china made products in terms of cost and in an open port policy of the government, you will be surprised that most "Aba Made" products are actually made in China.
PoliticsRe: The Falling Naira Is A Blessing by wirinet(m): 7:29pm On Mar 20, 2015
Economic illiterate spewing rubbish. This is what i wrote earlier on the thread on Oluwaseun's views on Naira devaluation;
This piece shows Oga Seun is ignorant in economic matters and history. Devaluation of the Naira would cause inflation and affect industries struggling to survive now because Nigeria depends on importation both for finished goods and raw materials. Importers and manufacturers would just adjust their prices to reflect the current naira value. It is suicidal for a wholly importing and open port nation (where every junk from china is allowed in) to devalue its currency. Even the cost of energy will increase as we import 100% of our petroleum products (Petrol Diesel and kerosine). So how do you expect made in Nigeria products to compete with made in China products.

If Readers are old enough, they would know that this was the same arguments given by Falae for introducing SAP under the Babangida administration, that the devaluation of the Naira would stimulate local production and boost export by making local production cheaper, but the reverse was the case, inflation skyrocketed as naira fell from about N1 to 1 to about N22 to 1. Later the IMF itself declared SAP a failed policy after it wrecked many African economies.

Devaluation would work only if you are a self reliant and net exporting country.
We are going round in a full circle. This was the same situation when Buhari took over government in 1983, the naira was falling in value and our import bill was skyrocketting. Buhari too drastic measures to try and reduce our level of import by closing the ports and restricting the demand for dollars. (that was why fela was jailed for allegedly travelling to Germany with undeclared dollars). He rationed imported essential commodities like milk. Although i do not agree with his methods, i know he has the right ideas and intentions.

OP is very ignorant and oblivious of the fact that many manufacturing companies are groaning under the current exchange rate and are laying of workers, and subsidy on fuel has not been removed yet. When inflation finally finds its level, i doubt there would be many Nigerian maunfacturing companies standing.
PoliticsRe: No Waiting At Polling Booths After Voting – IG by wirinet(m): 7:29am On Mar 20, 2015
genevieve12:
Some people can be so dumb all in d name of politics,if una like sleep for polling booth na una won count votes,as for me and my household we don enter our house,nigerians,if person they take panadol for una headache una go just dey add chloroquine.abeg oga IG leave dem make dem sidon dere anything their eye see,their neigbour go dey exPlain.rubbish people we their live get duplicate.
That is your constitutionally guaranteed right (although you cannot make that rule for your household, especially if your children are over 18 yrs), but you have no right to deny other the rights of other Nigerians to stay behind and defend their votes
PoliticsRe: No Waiting At Polling Booths After Voting – IG by wirinet(m): 7:24am On Mar 20, 2015
nduchucks:
The IG has no right to step on the constitutional rights of Nigerians to freely move and/or assemble as they so choose.

Nigerians will stay behind and protect their votes and document fraud. We don't trust the IG.
Thank you my brother, advise voters not only to stay behind and make sure every vote is counted but also to document irregularities with their camera and video phones. It would make things easier during the court cases for the cheated candidiate to proove his/her case, because in Nigeria the onus of proof lies in the candidiate and party and not on INEC, the police or the alleged winner. We should help our candidiates win at the courts if it comes to it.
PoliticsRe: No Waiting At Polling Booths After Voting – IG by wirinet(m): 7:17am On Mar 20, 2015
yomalex:
As if it were 1950's.
An election that has so much influence on the direction of our nation for the next 4 years. Your wife is in the hospital to give birth to your baby and you go home and sleep, who does that?
Do not mind the stupid IG, he is behaving as if he is More Nigerian than the voters. We all have equal rights to monitor our votes and ensure the outcome of the election reflect our wishes.

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