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Nigerian governments always treating Nigerians with disdain and disregard. They are either telling full adults when to sweep their houses, when to leave their house and when to associate, despite the constitution guarantying freedom of movement and association.

So which laws states that all Nigerians must be imprisoned in their houses during and after elections. What laws are Nigerians breaking by choosing to remain at the polling units and make sure their votes are counted and recorded.

Nigerians has as much right and stake in Nigeria as GEJ and the police IG.

I am not necessarily an APC supporter, I am more of a Buhari supporter, because i believe in the integrity of Gen Mohammadu Buhari. He is loved by millions of people mostly on his integrity.
Having said that, i can give reasons why i am a Buhari supporter.

uptoHim:
I just want clear answers, may be your answers could convince one or two indifferent persons to vote for APC/Buhari.

1. During his regime, did Buhari fight corruption or indiscipline? If Buhari really fought corruption, who was justifiably/undoubtedly convicted, and which of them was a northerner?

He fought both corruption and indiscipline, he convicted and jailed many politicians (if not most politicians) of the second republic. Whether justifiably or otherwise cannot be determined here but in a law court, but the cases were tried in a military tribunal and those found guilty were punished (even if it is too harshly) and there were loads of northerners. Till today a prominent northerner like Balarabe Musa has not forgiven Buhari for jailing him

2. What was Buhari's economic achievement during his regime?

There were loads of economic achievements. He stabilized the naira, he stabilized inflation, he started paying off our external debts, was attempting to reduce our huge import bill and so many more. Although i disagree with his methods of going about these things, he had the right economic intentions. Nigeria would continue to suffer economically unless we reduce our reliance on imported goods and become self reliance.

3. What has Buhari done/said about his brothers/fulani herdsmen attacking and killing other ethnicity, either presently or in the past?

When he was in charge , he did not give room for any break down of security as he swiftly confronted any violent attacks by fulani, Maitasini or any other violent group. Presently he is neither the commander in chief or any member of any security agency, so he has no powers to do anything about any security breakdown

4. So far, in what single way has APC and their media helped the nation in the fight against boko haram?

APC does not control any security agency so there is nothing they can do to help the nation fight insurgency. About the media, it is the governments responsibility to disseminate information on the fight (or should it be war) against boko haram. If the government dishes out lies and half truths or not information at all, then other media houses are free to speculate. one day the army says they have rescued chibok girls, the next day they say it is a lie, then the very next day party officials say no chibok girls were kidnapped. Same thing for Shekau who has been killed so many times by the Nigerian army and he resurrects each time.

5. Without Boko Haram, how would APC campaign had faired?

Without Boko Haram, the APC would still hammer on other security failings of the government like Ombatse massacres, the incessant Fulani Herdsmen massacres, kidnappings in the east and violent armed robberies all over the country. Then there is the massive corruption being tolerated and protected by the government, failing and falling value of the naira, the depletion of our excess crude account and foreign reserves, our approaching pariah status in the committee of nations due the governments abysmal foreign policy. There are loads of other government failings to campaign with.

6. If Buhari is not a tribalised person, what tangible thing did he do for the eastern region(SS/SE) during his first regime?

He was just head of state for just about 20 months, and he was more interested in stabilizing the economy that was sliding under the Shagari administration, so he did not do much in terms of infrastructures in the east or any other region.[/quote]

7. Are u voting against GEJ because he has RELATIVELY performed poorly, or you just want something new? And with what we have seen of APC, is the party worth that something new?

Both. GEJ has perfomed very poorly save the last 4 or 5 weeks. He was largely unconcerned about the boko haram fight and refused to even visit the victims of Boko Haram until the last few weeks. He was not commissioning projects or interacting with Nigerians until the last few weeks. If he had governed with the vigour and purposed of the last 4 or 5 weeks, i am sure he would have been more loved by the generality of Nigerians. Then i also need something new. It is wrong to be under one party and the same set of people for over 16years. This is the bane of African democracies, once a party gains power it does all it can to remain in power forever. It becomes a behemoth, too powerful to control. For a country to progress at all there is the need for at least two powerful parties to be alternating power between them periodically / This is the secret of western democracies. 16 years is too long to be ruled by the same set of people with the same ideas.

8. And lastly, as de-tribalised as APC is claiming that Buhari is, why did he not campaign in the SS/SE during the first and second time he contested? Or did he campaign in these regions those times?

He could not do extensive campaign in the SS/SE because his party then was newly registered and he did not possess the structures and finance to campaign across the whole nation, so he decided to concentrate mostly in his areas of strength.

9. Do you really believe 100% that APC means well for this nation. Or you are gambling that we should just give them a "trial" chance

I am not a mind reader, so there is no way i can know if APC means well for the nation, so we are gambling that we should give Buhari a trial chance. We had gambled with GEJ and PDP and we lost. If we should lose with APC this time, we would gamble with PDP again. Once day we will win and Nigeria would be the overall winner.

10. Do you really believe that APC/Buhari would solve the problem of these Boko Haram Islamic insulgency. Has any country ever solved it?

I believe Buhari can solve the Boko Haram problem with honesty and commitment. At least GEJ had been able to achieve a lot in just 6 weeks of commitment. Yes Northern Ireland was able to solve its insurgency issues. Civil war is a sort of insurgency and Nigeria had been able to solve the its civil war problems. Same with so many other countries including the USA.

But the Chief of Army Staff, Lt. General Kenneth Tobiah Minimah, who addressed journalists after the meeting, said the people of Borno, Adamawa and Yobe States could only vote when the structures of governance there are reinstated.

I think Jega should resign and his post taken over by Lt. General Kenneth Minimah, because he seems to be the person dictating when, where and how elections are to be held in Nigeria.

If according to Gen. Minimah elections can only take place in three states after the return of all structures of governance in these states, then why the need to postpone the elections on security concerns in the first place? The initial excuse for postponing the elections was to allow people under boko haram areas to vote, how come it is now about governance structures. Is the governance structures in the newly liberated local government disrupted? Are there no local government chairmen ( or caretaker committees), Councillors, State House of rep members, federal house of rep. members, and senators representing these areas? So there will not be legislators from these areas until Gen. Minimah approves of elections into these offices.

Oldest kingdom in Africa? When did Igbos started having kings before even talking of kingdoms? So show us any archeological evidence that igbos had any kingdoms before the administrative creations of kings by the British.

This shows that the OP is Information Technologically disadvantaged. He is totally oblivious of the fact that you do not need to comment in order to post a like on Nairaland and even on facebook. He should have have looked at the total views on the thread before jumping into conclusion.

Jonathan can only win the coming elections in three ways;

1. Disqualify Buhari and contest against the other inconsequential candidiates.
2. Abanbon elections altogether by creating a crisis (legal or constitutional), that would make elections impossible within the constitutional time limit.
3.Employ massive rigging that had never been seen in the annals of democracy anywhere in the world.

Anyway, let me jump to the other thread and add my own "fake" like as i do not intend to comment at all.

234GT:
In my family of six, I am the only GEJ supporter. The remaining five support Buhari, but the good news is that I am the only one going to vote.
All the others can't vote because of different reasons. If you listened to Buhari's speech in PHC on Thursday, you will never vote for him except you are brain dead like him.
His blunders were unforgiveable.

This phenomenon is a miracle, out of a family of 6, 5 are brain dead and only one is brain alive. It means there is a brain disorder gene in the family and only one person miraclously escaped.

On seeing this;

In addition, N234 million was paid to ACT.Technologies for the supply of 40 million PVCs through JAIZ Bank on January 24, 2014, while the last transfer of N590,871,418 was made on February 19, 2014 , five days after the presidential election was meant to have held before it was shifted.

I knew the whole story is wash.

How can they market Jonathan, when they are too busy marketing Buhari. The campaign directors and managers mentions Buhari's name more times that the mention Jonathan.

SagePerv:
[color=maroon]What's wrong with you people?

This is called Manual Labour. It's also work.
The only thing wrong here is the inappropriate wears. White collar job isn't for everyone.[/color]

Asking graduates to do manual labour or work is wasteful and inappropriate. Yes white collar jobs are not for everyone, but there are blue collar jobs dignifying of graduates.

buygala:
Dignity of Labor....

I would rather do this job for 5 hours and be paid 5k, than teach in one mosquito-infested village secondary school and be paid a miserly 19k for A month's work

if a white-collar job won't foot my bills, then let a black-collar job do it....

And who would pay you 5k for carrying cement for 5 hours? The best you can get for carrying cement for 5 hours is N1.5k (and i am being generous).

Do you understand the impact you would make to society by teaching kids in a mosquito infested village secondary school for one year as against carrying cement bags for the same year. Are you also aware of the physical and health implications on your body by carry cement for 5 hours everyday for a full year?

Femi Fani-Kayode (the new best friend of Ndibo) should also explain his crimes against the igbos when he said this;

The Igbo and their Biafra fought Nigeria and killed Nigerians for three hard years in that brutal civil war in which over one million courageous, loyal and faithful sons and daughters of the Federal Republic lost their lives at the war front trying to stop Biafra from seceding from the federation, from taking our land and from taking the minority groups of the Mid-Western Region and Eastern Region and our newly-discovered oil with them’

So in effect was blaming the igbos for the war only to turn around a few months later to blame Buhari and Nigerian soldiers for the war.

It is only an insane person that can take Fani- Kayode serious.

davien:
Then you are practically dating gibberish....because despite the fact that you now claim you know we were talking all talking about electromagnetic radiation....you think "seeing" is the same regardless of what organ is used to create the mental picture....note that you yourself had to put quotes on "seeing"because they don't really see in the conventional sense..
I admire that you want to show one can "see" without eyes, but that leaves room for generalization and that then leaves room for ambiguity....which is bad if we want to be specific(which we do) in a topic like this...

This argument is becoming pediatric, it is becoming senseless and directionless.

You started by saying;

You know darkness is merely a lack of photons...

I corrected you by explaining that darknes is not marely a lack of photons, but the inability to sense certain range of energies including photons.

Then you went on a fallacious diatribe of saying;

If this is an attempt at a catchy come-back then you're wrong......in the sense that one can't say "inability to sense certain ranges of energy" because a photon is by definition a unit of energy(an electromagnetic one) and once one can't sense it, it becomes darkness thus reaffirming my statement and those animals that "see in the dark" merely have acute sense's for setting below the visible spectrum of light....so it's basically the same thing....no photons,no light....How can you even object to that

Here you are digging further into fallacy. First a photon is not defined as a unit of electromagnetic energy, it is the smallest packet of electromagnetic energy. Its energy depends on the wavelength and frequency of the packet. Furthermore the eye (human and animal's) is only sensitive to a very minute range of the electromagnetic spectrum. The bulk of the electromagnetic spectrum is " dark to the organ call eye" The statement no photon, no light is very wrong.

I think you just use the word photon without know its meaning.

This is the basic definition of a photon;

A photon is a particle representing a quantum of light or other electromagnetic radiation. A photon carries energy proportional to the radiation frequency but has zero rest mass.

So a packet of Radio waves or gamma rays is a photon. Are you now saying a room filled with radio waves or gamma rays is dark?

davien:
Then you are practically dating gibberish....because despite the fact that you now claim you know we were talking all talking about electromagnetic radiation....you think "seeing" is the same regardless of what organ is used to create the mental picture....note that you yourself had to put quotes on "seeing"because they don't really see in the conventional sense..
I admire that you want to show one can "see" without eyes, but that leaves room for generalization and that then leaves room for ambiguity....which is bad if we want to be specific(which we do) in a topic like this...

This argument is becoming pediatric, it is becoming senseless and directionless.

You started by saying;

You know darkness is merely a lack of photons...

I corrected you by explaining that darknes is not marely a lack of photons, but the inability to sense certain range of energies including photons.

Then you went on a fallacious diatribe of saying;

If this is an attempt at a catchy come-back then you're wrong......in the sense that one can't say "inability to sense certain ranges of energy" because a photon is by definition a unit of energy(an electromagnetic one) and once one can't sense it, it becomes darkness thus reaffirming my statement and those animals that "see in the dark" merely have acute sense's for setting below the visible spectrum of light....so it's basically the same thing....no photons,no light....How can you even object to that

Here you are digging further into fallacy. First a photon is not defined as a unit of electromagnetic energy, it is the smallest packet of electromagnetic energy. Its energy depends on the wavelength and frequency of the packet. Furthermore the eye (human and animal's) is only sensitive to a very minute range of the electromagnetic spectrum. The bulk of the electromagnetic spectrum is " dark to the organ call eye" The statement no photon, no light is very wrong.

I think you just use the word photon without know its meaning.

This is the basic definition of a photon;

A photon is a particle representing a quantum of light or other electromagnetic radiation. A photon carries energy proportional to the radiation frequency but has zero rest mass.

davien:
If this is an attempt at a catchy come-back then you're wrong......in the sense that one can't say "inability to sense certain ranges of energy" because a photon is by definition a unit of energy(an electromagnetic one) and once one can't sense it, it becomes darkness thus reaffirming my statement and those animals that "see in the dark" merely have acute sense's for setting below the visible spectrum of light....so it's basically the same thing....no photons,no light....How can you even object to that

What do you mean by catchy come back? please explain what you are talking about, because i have no clue.

I used the term "energy" because i am talking of a wider term, than restricting seeing, sensing or perceiving to just one type of energy - electromanetic energy.

If you read my last post again, you will see i used three different examples of animals that can "see" without relying on electromagnetic energy.

A bat can travel around obstacles and locate and catch a pray in pitch darkness by "seeing" its surroundings using only sound energy. It has been shown that we humans have this sense of perception to a lesser degree but has been shunted due to our over reliance on sight. Blind people can be taught to move around using eco-location.

A dog can also recontruct a three dimensional image of its surrounding using only its sense of smell. A blood hound's sense of smell is so acute and sensible that it can locate objects in pitch darkness.

A shark can locate a pray in pitch darknes using its in built sense of electricity. It can sense the very weak electrical signals given off by animals.

Other animals can sense other types of energy like heat and magnetism.

Because humans depends so much on sight to perceive the universe, some people erroneously and arrogantly feel that the universe cannot be percieved outside the very narrow range of electromagnectic spectrum that the human eyes can perceive and so anything outside those range of frquencies is called darkness.

As per the potency of African JUJU or any other juju, i would say it is mainly hogwash. Juju has been shown to be ineffectual, useless and unrealiable. If Afican juju is that potent, Africa (black) would not be the most backward continent on in the world, we would have subdued other races. But the reverse was the case, Arabs came subdued and enslaved us, the Europeans came subdued and enslaved us and colonized us. So what use is the Juju if it cannot protect us from invaders.

Juju only thrives in areas salvaged by poverty, ignorance and diseases. Like my friend always says witches and wizzards are killed inside an airconditioned environment, they only thrive in poverty striken face me i face you arrangements in the ghettos or in the villages. Meaning you will not hear of witches or juju in V/I, Ikoyi or Maitama. You will only hear of juju in Otueke, Daura anf shaki.

davien:
You know darkness is merely a lack of photons...

You are wrong on so many levels. Darkness is not merely the lack of photons, darkness is the inability of man's brains (through his eyes) to process a wider range of energy. What man calls light is the ability of man's brain to be snsitive to a very narrow range of energy (photons if you like).

A pitch dark night is not neccessarily dark to dogs, bats, sharks, and other animals.

I say darkness is an inability to sense certain range of energies.

denko:
few minutes for one person that means it cannot be used. 1minute = 60 person by hours then 5 hours = 300 persons dont forget we have some polling unit that has more than 700 registrants

If card reader verifies each voter in 1minute = 60 person per hour, what happens if verification is done manually by searching through a list of registered voters. How many minutes would be needed to verify each voter manually, or are you people suggesting that voters should not be verified before voting? Or are you insuating that manual verification is faster than computerized verification?

If the card reader has been perfected and well calibrated, i do not see why verification would take more than 30 seconds ( and that is due to finger print verification).

We should implore INEC to perfect the card reader and digital verification instead of campaigning for the crude and corruption prone manual verification.

miraclewonder:
I'm glad that the opposition has finally sat up to its official responsibility as the watch dog to ruling party. It has made the PDP more responsive to the needs of the people. But they are not just ready for Aso rock now with that grandfather who should be an elder statesman as their Presidential candidate, OBJ was the last of such leaders Nigeria would have, they should look for a younger & vibrant alternative. So, it's till GEJ till 2019.

First there is no correllation between good governance and youth. You have old people who make good administrators, likewise you have young people who are good administrators. Being a good administrator is a function of experience, intelligence, good moral character, good leadership abilities, etc.

There is a reason why age and experience is paramount when companies recruit applicants into high management adminstrative positions. Also there is a reason why there is a minimum age for people vying for the office of the president but there is no maximum age.

Youths have been heads of state of Nigeria before and they did not particularly do very well.

When we say countries should diversify their economy, they turn deaf ears. A country that is dependent on exportation of primary natural (and even agricultural) resources is subject to the manipulations of other nations.

The best and most profitable investment a country can invest in is technology. It is the driver of modern economics. The US, Germany and Japan are the most successful economies in the world today mainly because of technology. These countries can survive even if oil is $1 per barrel.

These TAN/PDP people are irrational, it is fruitless attemping to hold a retional conversation with them. Their plan of attacking the person of Buhari is not working because the more they attack him, the more popular he gets, so they have resorted to attacking his main supporters - Tinubu and Amaechi.

So a government sponsored documentary is now the new way of convicting and punishing an alleged criminal? What happened to the Justice system? If they have concrete evidence of crimes commited by Tinubu, why not present same before a competent court of Jurisdiction and get a proper conviction? This government seems adept at prosecuting and convicting opponents in the media while avoiding the law courts. they convicted Salami and found him guilty in the media, they convicted Sanusi for stealing and sponsoring Boko Haram in the media. Jega is now being prosecuted and convicted in the madia. I expect Amaechi, Soludo, Osibanjo to be next. I hope to see a documentary on Amaechi very soon.

Some Mofo is calling Tinubu a comfirmed thief without any evidence whatsoever, but the same person is ready to vouch for the innocence of Stella Odua and Deziani Allison even with tons of evidence against them.

It means we should also stone her husband, because her husbands slogan is transformation. Does she have an idea what transformation means? Transformation and change means the same thing.

My own guess is that the importation of Fuel (including diesel and kerosine) alone accounts for up to 10% of our foreign exchange demand. Stopping importation of fuel alone can add up to 10% to the value of the Naira.

Why is PDP suddenly obsessed with debates. PDP had never participated in a presidential debate. In 1999 Obasanjo stayed away from the organized debate between him and Falae, In 2003 Obasanjo stayed boycotted the presidential debate but Buhari showed up. In 2007 Yaradua did not show up for the presidential debate, Buhari Showed up. In 2011 Jonathan boycotted the presidential debate, Buhari showed up.

So what has changed in 2015? Why all of a sudden PDP is behaving as if they love presidential debates.If PDP had won 4 presidential elections without the need of a presidential debate, why do they feel one is essential now?

Why did "wind of hope" and others not organize a presidential debate and convince PDP to participate before now?

There seems to be a correlation between boycotting a presidential debate and winning the elections.

My take is that if Jonathan or any member of his cabinet is responsible for the chibok girl's abduction and boko haram generally, i would implore the UK, the US and others with relevant intelligent information to help Nigerians and Nigeria file a case at the world court in hague for crimes against humanity. Even if it is Buhari or any oppsition party or member they should assist Nigeria in seeking justice for the brutal murder and rape of tens of thousands of our citizens.

The Nigerian National Assembly must be the most useless National Assembly in the world. They only know how to whine and nag like an aggrieved wife but feign helplessness. The executive tear gasses the National assembly, they cry. The executive spends money any how without budgetary provisions, they cry. They assembly carries out investigations and make resolutions to the executive, the executive just ignores them and they cry again. In a sane country the president would have been impeached long ago. But in Nigeria it seems the legislature is only useful for collecting salaries, sitting allowances and constituency projects allocations.

This piece shows Oga Seun is ignorant in economic matters and history. Devaluation of the Naira would cause inflation and affect industries struggling to survive now because Nigeria depends on importation both for finished goods and raw materials. Importers and manufacturers would just adjust their prices to reflect the current naira value. It is suicidal for a wholly importing and open port nation (where every junk from china is allowed in) to devalue its currency. Even the cost of energy will increase as we import 100% of our petroleum products (Petrol Diesel and kerosine). So how do you expect made in Nigeria products to compete with made in China products.

If Readers are old enough, they would know that this was the same arguments given by Falae for introducing SAP under the Babangida administration, that the devaluation of the Naira would stimulate local production and boost export by making local production cheaper, but the reverse was the case, inflation skyrocketed as naira fell from about N1 to 1 to about N22 to 1. Later the IMF itself declared SAP a failed policy after it wrecked many African economies.

Devaluation would work only if you are a self reliant and net exporting country.

OP, can you please explain what President Jonathan mean by the following quotes;

[size=14pt]"The word Corruption is now being over-used. Ordinary stealing, people will say it is Corruption"[/size]

What is it called when public officials divert money meant for government purposes into private pockets - stealling or corruption?

Thanks in advance for your enlightenment.

I am honestly at loss about what the whole nonsense is about. Are Nigerians that idle that the main subject of political debate is whether Buhari took a picture in London or Abuja?

So because Buhari's picture was said to be taken in London when it was actually taken in Abuja while he was actually in London when the pictures were released to the public means we should not vote for him.

I an ashamed at what other countries would think of Nigerians when they see and hear what interest Nigerian electorates.

Who is healthier Buhari or Jonathan? Who had been flown abroad for medical treatment more times in the last 2 years, Buhari or Buhari?

Mayby both of them should be subjected to thourough medical tests before the elections to determine who is healthier.

OLADD:
If any member of the man's household was among the corpers and other Nigerians killed because of Buhari's careless utterances after the 2011 elections, I am sure he would have spit on the General's face.

What if any member of the man's was among the Post Corpers that was killed because of Moro's (or should i say jonathan's) carelessless )or should i scam) while applying for a non existent job? Whose face should the man spit on?

Omeife2:
Ok, planning on voting for Buhari, but i'm a lil bit confused and would need clarity. Buhari took a bank loan of about N27mill to Purchase the nomination form, and his wife donates N135mil worth of drugs to Internally Displaced Persons? I need to understand those discrepancies.

Please to all the GEJ supporters ready to start ranting, i can reel out his own issues, so hold your peace..

Let me help you out with the so called discrepancies;

Mohammadu Buhari was a retired major General in the Nigerian army, and so he cannot be said to be poor by any stretch of the imagination. He was also a former head of state, so receives salaries and emuluments at par with the present head of state.

He borrowed N27 million to collect his normination form, because according to him, he does not want any single person to be responsible for paying for his form, so as not to remain indebted to any one person, like Yaradua was indebted to Ibori for paying and collecting his normination form. He obviously has the wherewithals to pay back, that should only be the concern of his bank manager and not concern us.

Meanwhile, Aisha Buhari is a board member of International human right with their head office in United Kingdom. She also helps women politicians to raise funds for campaigns. She is very well connected and comes from a wealthy family. So raising N135 million for a philanthropic cause should not be too difficult.