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GreatAxeMan:
The presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Atiku Abubakar, says he wished to be known by his current name and not by his West African School Certificate which carries the name “Siddiq Abubakar.”

This is not how change of name works. There are procedures for legally changing your name. You just don't submit a document bearing one name and simply attach a letter stating the name you wished to be called.

According to documents displayed by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), Atiku did not provide information on his primary education.

Then he does not possess the minimum qualification for contesting for the office of the president in Nigeria.

The 1965 West Africa School Certificate (WASC) result presented by him identified the student as Siddiq Abubakar.

Then he needs to support the name change with supporting affidavit and other documents relating to change of name.

He also holds a Master’s degree in International Relations from Anglia Ruskin University in the United Kingdom.

From the documents, SaharaReporters observed that Atiku earned a Master’s degree in 2021 with GCE O’level results.

What name is on the certificate from Anglia Ruskin University? Is it Siddiq Abubakar or Atiku Abubakar? What certificates did he use to gain admission into the said university?

Furthermore Nigerian journalists including Seun and Sowore should also beam their search light on the educational and family background of Atiku Abubakar and not only Bola Tinubu. What primary and secondary schools did he attend? Who are his parents, his brothers and family? where did he depend his childhood and youth? Which qualifications did he use to getting employed into the Nigerian Custom Service?

They also need to dig out his INEC forms he submitted before contesting for the governorship election in 1999 and the ones he submitted in 2017, 2011, 2015 and 2019 presidential elections.

I hope other candidates will take him to court on these grounds.

Weregonnalose:
ya donkey, ya got that ah girl ah pregnant ye. kikikikiki ya. ya is a right, he is ah annoying because he isa disagree with ah ya ye. kikikikiki

who isa ask ye?

There is a popular adage that says "Never argue with a wèrè bystanders won’t be able to tell who’s who."

AmazonTopaz:
Are you trying to be a clown?

How many women discover their pregnancy status in 6 weeks how many days was Roe overturned? A week ago how do you expect them to know this and take care of it within such timeframe.
Keep quiet and stop talking about irresponsible people are you responsible yourself
This fixation on people's sexual choices is very alarming tagging it irresponsibility is clownery because married people are not spared from such realities too.

That guy is so annoying. He talks on issues he has no idea about. He is trying too hard to be a hard right Conservative. He is neither a woman or at best a doctor ('gynecologist), but he claims to an expert in pregnancy related issues. I have seen a woman go three months without her knowing she was pregnant. Very young first timers can go 2 yo 3 months without realising they are pregnant.

Asking a 12 year old girl who was raped to carry the child to term is to me the height of wickedness. The person has no soul, or has very dark soul. There is a high chance the girl will be scared for life - physically (VVF) or emotionally.

SeaTrade:
The way you people assume and throw words around without knowing who you're talking to baffle me a lot.
Oga there are countries that have developed their steel sector so much that the economies of scale they've acquired on it has made them unbeatable in the international steel market.
They can produce it cheaper and sell cheaper and make Nigeria investing on it stupid since an industrialist can always import from those countries way cheaper than he would have gotten buying from Nigeria.
You don't just go about investing out of emotions.
Steel isn't a sector that has an international cartel like OPEC that fixes it's price worldwide.
If not for OPEC,Nigeria oil would have been useless because countries like US,Saudi,Russia would have use their capacity to make Nigeria oil unsellable and useless.
We can discuss without you throwing words around please.

But we are both saying the same thing. I don't subscribe to the government throwing money away in steel plant. We have wasted enough billions of dollars. We should just import. When in talking about steel industry, I don't mean steel production, I am talking about turning steel into first machines tools and then machines and machinery and finally products. Same with plastic industry.

SeaTrade:
Easy fix,increase Chinese and India import tarriff at the ports to offset local cost disadvantage inefficiencies.

It's doesn't work with the Chinese. Many countries have tried that and it had always failed. Why? Because the Chinese government resort to "dumping". They reduce (subsidise)the price of their product to meet whatever tariff you place. The Chinese strategy is econonics of scale. They make profit from shear scale of production instead of price mark up on individual items. They have excellent infrastructure, very low interest rate and strict government control, its very difficult for even US and Europe to compete.

SeaTrade:
Steel mining isn't developing here because of cheaper imports of the same steel.
It's not government's place to make steel available for industry,let the private sector handle that if they can.
I also don't think we aren't manufacturing a great deal because of lack of mining capacities.
There are great nations out there that don't even have steel deposits.
How then did they do it?
Only thing they need to fix is power.

You obviously are not in the real (productive) business. Probably you are an admin person. I have undertaken many productive businesses. Steel (and recently plastics) is the backbone any industrialisation. countries use steel bans and tarrif as an effective weapon in a diplomatic or economic war. Nigeria's industrialisation was stalled because of the failure of Ajaokuta and Delta steel industries. Nations without steel deposits import from other countries.

Saintinoo:
For you to develop the manufacturering sector, you must develop the power and mining sector. Where will the manufacturers get raw materials from. Ask innoson how much has spend on steel, Dangote how much he spends to get lime stone. These raw materials should be made available and easy to get by manufacturers.

And about China, those guys are having a field day because the government is corrupt.

I now understand what you mean by mining. You mean mining for local industries as against mining to collect rent. I am still not convinced as mining is prone to abuse. Since we do not possess the machinery, technical knowhow and refining capacity to process mined materials to usable materials, we will still have to depend on the Chinese and Indians to mine for us. And you know how these people are degrading the people and the environment in other parts of Africa.

I will prefer we import raw materials from and recycle for now. There is an enormous potential in recycling old materials into new raw materials. Even the recycling industry is dominated by Chinese and Indians. I will prefer Tinubu or Peter Obi talks about building manpower and skills apart from infrastructures essential for development.

pacesetting:
That's why I always say Tinubu has nothing to offer Nigeria.

Otherwise, he will know a credit system will not work in Nigeria's current state. The first thing is to empower SMEs and provide a conducive environment for them to strive.

With diesel at 900/litre, horrible roads and multiple taxation - both legal and illegal? Remember the SMEs will have to compete in terms of price and quality with SMEs in China, Vietnam and India.

Saintinoo:
Tinubu is not an economist, he studied business administration. though they said he worked as an accountant.

What Nigeria needs right now is investment in the power and mining sector in order to help the manufacturers. The a massive investment in education and SMEs. Then we can start talking about car loans, who will collect the car loans? is it the millions of unemployed youths he wants to give car loan?

That was how Buhari started sharing 30k and 10k in the name of social investment. These people are not serious at all. As a graduate of Economics I feel sorry for this country anytime I see politicians bringing useless policies.

The problem is that Nigeria politicians who think they know the economy well, ignorantly use political economy policies.

I agree with with except your mention of the mining sector. Mining has always been exploitative and destructive in nature. Foreigners (Chinese and Europeans) will just continue to exploit and destroy our people and environment, while our people (governments, communities and youths) will to kill each other to collect rent. That's what has brought sub-Saharan Africa to its present sorry state.

What we need is education. Technical, entrepreneural and scientific education. We must encourage research in other to solve our own problems instead of hopelessly depending on outsiders. We must convert from being consumers to producers.

Saintinoo:
If you think that car loans is what Nigeria youths need right now, then you are not serious. Car loans are the least of what Nigeria needs right now, I don't know when last you entered the nearby market in your locality.

Nigeria needs more than a car loan policy.

That's why I am disappointed at Tinubu who claims to be an economist, an accountant and a businessman. He is still talking about consumption instead of production. If a civil servant takes a loan to buy a foreign car (Tokunbo for that matter), which economy will it benefit? Our importation bill will continue to rise and our naira will continue to fall.

FuckOsuPigs:
He just used that as an example. Someone earning 100k does not necessarily have to go fo a N3.5m car. In a multilateral arrangement involving banks and FG, workers can actually obtain car loans for 5 years (60 months) and mortgage loans for 20 years (240 months) on a single digit interest rate. I'm a banker and I currently enjoy this benefit. This is what obtains in UK, Canada and US.

The man is making sense. Despise the messenger but don't hate the message. Take emotion out of it.

Are you a banker in Nigeria or in China? In Nigeria's current inflation rate alone hovers around 18%. CBN interest rate is 13%. Banks that borrows from CBN must input their running and administrative costs (before even talking about profit) before giving out loans. That's why loans from banks is around 25 -30%. So how are you able to get single digit loan in Nigeria'?

CheapHomes1:
The question is very straightforward.

What system is he creating? If it can work in the US, why is it working in the US?

It's working in the US because they have single digit credit rate and inflation. And the dollar is stable.

Funflipper:
You see yourself. Until Nigeria embrace the credit system. everything will crinue to fall apart. Imagine your level of ignorance on mortgage and credit lines. Anybody earning 50k a month with good credit should be able to afford a car of 2 million naira which will be paid over the years depending on your down payment. If the system is not changed now, you will start hear civil servants stealing 3 trillion naira because you have to pay 100% for everything.

Someone earning 50k a month should be able to afford a car of 2million on credit? Are you joking? Won't he spend out of that 50k salary on transport, feeding, housing, medicals, electricity, family, etc. Will the 50K even cover his living expenses? Then when he purchase the car, will he run it on water? Will he get free service and parts for the car? If any of the Lagos Revenue collection agencies like LASMA or VIO catch him for one flimsy excuse or the other, he will be fined more than 50k.

When a bag of rice is now 35k, gas is going to N10/12kg cylinder, electricity is about N60/Kwh, petrol is trending towards N300/litre, etc, you are talking about N50k per month salary being credit worthy.

Kennedyli:
Is this the best of Tinubu? Unfortunately he's saying gibberish even after all the editing.

How would someone earning 100k afford ro pay back a car loan of 3.5 million?

Even with a credit system. It will take 100% of his salary for over 2 years to pay for the car.

Which lender will agree to such a deal?

BTw Nigeria already has a credit system. Loan apps like Carbon and Branch use it.

The next president should focus on increasing local production to strengthen the naira.
So that car of 3.5 mil can go back to the 1.5 mil it was sold 7 years ago.

TINUBU HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.

What's the interest rate? What is the CDN's interest rate and banks interest rate? At an interest rate of 25% - 30% per annun, how long will it take someone earning N100,000 to pay back a loan of N3.5million? (very few tokumbo cars cost N3.5million today.)

cuteboy2:
No we can't rest. Have you looked closely at that NYSC certificate? The name there says: "Bola Adekunle Tinubu", not "Bola Ahmed Tinubu" which he claims as his real name.

Every document this man presents has issues.

Another mystery with the name is Bola. Bola means bring wealth as against Ola which simply means wealth. what does the Bola stand for? Bola is short for something, ie. Abimbola (born in weath), Adebola (crown beings weath), bolaji(wake with wealth or born with wealth), bolanle (wealth came home), etc.

One would have expected his official documents to bear his full name, but they are all short form or abbreviations. It like someone simply bearing Ade, Ola, Olu, Ayo, etc.

budaatum:
America is not crumbling before my eyes just because of one drumpthgp or Clarence. Perhaps that's because I'm seeing elsewhere though.

The wheels of democracy run slowly, so one must learn to be patient.

Societies don't crumble over night, it some times takes decades or even centuries. If Trump had succeeded in its coup attempt. Then all the checks and balances that had help America remain great for over 150 years would have started crumbling one by one.

Trump did not fail completely, he has radically changed the Supreme Court to the radical right for the next 20 odd years.

Gospel2Day:
You need help, divine help.
Good day.

Thanks but no thanks. I already have all the divine help I need. I am living the type of life I choose to live.

Good night.

Gospel2Day:
Why should I be sexually promiscuous when I'm not a dog?
If I hate you, I won't respond to the irrational comment you made.
Stop being a slave to your sexual urges.
Slaves don't get no rights.
Jesus loves you.
Repent and believe Jesus, so you can be saved.
Shalom.

Then let those who choose to be dogs be dogs, as long as they don't bite or rape you.

The way you respond to "unbelievers" reek of hate and disgust.

Come and stop me from being a slave to my sexual urge now. Abi, you be sextron - defender of the universe from sexual urge.

All of them added together is not as rich as Mike Adenuga. They are not even as rich as Folake Alakija.

Gospel2Day:
The fact that you're sexually promiscuous is proof that you're demon possessed and devil's captive.
I can only pity you and pray you get well soon.
Jesus saves.
Shalom.

Dem stop you from bring sexually promiscuous? You that is not demon possessed, see the amount of hatred and anger you spew around. Jesus needs to save you first from your hatred filled heart. Jesus was said to accept prostitute and save them from the hatred of pharisees.

jmoore:
So if a baby is put into an incubator, it means the baby is part of an incubator?


King of olodo!!

So women are now incubators? Incubators go through morning sickness, hormonal changes, pregnancy and birth pains and incubators are expected to breast feed babies once they are born. Religious bigots think so lowly of women.

AmazonTopaz:
The Supreme Court of the united states will hear a case next term Moore v. Harper this case will give state legislatures the power to override court rulings on federal elections.

Wirinet, Budaatum, Sanpipita, Timiofak, obrigado,jimetagambo America is crumbling before our very eyes. Clarence Thomas wife planned a coup he still sits on the court now this the coup failed in 2020 it will not fail in 2024 if Garland does not prosecute these people.

The next coup in 2024 if these spineless democratic leaders don't do something about it will be successful
Remember that the courts threw out Trump's baseless claims on election fraud if the Supreme Court gives headlight in this case republiQan controlled legislatures can override the courts.

What the F is this?

When is Biden and democrats expanding the courts?

We can interpolate that on the federal level to mean that federal legislature can also override the the rulings of the supreme court on presidential elections.

benalvino3:
talking about something you admitted to be ignorant of

Ignorant of what? If you are talking about Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony, yes I am ignorant of whether she is lying or not, until I hear the testimony of the accused persons. And until the matter goes to court.

If you are talking about Trump lies that the elections were somehow rigged, and that he won the elections, I am knowledgeable that it's a big lie.

Why?
Because;
The elections organisers, agents and observers says so.

The states and their legislatures says so.

The attorney General and the whole justice department of the US says so.

The courts, up to the supreme court says so

The Republican party through its party leaders says so.

Mike pence the Trump Vice President who has the final ratification power says so


The US Congress says so

And every other American, save Trump and a few deranged MAGA cults followers says so.

That Trump attempted to over throw the US Congress including the Vice President, I am also very knowledgeable of that. Why?

Because I saw the coup execution with my very own eyes live on TV. Trump and his deranged MAGA followers distrusted the ratification of an already declared election that had passed through all constitutional process.

benalvino3:
in other words, you are speaking in ignorance. shame

You are the most shameless person I have ever come across both online and offline. You whole existence is Donald Trump. Republican have accepted defeat in the last elections and moved on. Trump's family has accepted defeat and moved on. Most of Trump's former aids have accepted defeat and moved on. Even Trump lawyers have moved on. And we have a few disturbed Nigerians still shouting stolen elections, which hunt, Biden this Biden that, still propagating election conspiracy theories.


Americans deserves to find out what went wrong and jan 6th and how the US Congress was almost overthrown by a sitting president and his supporters, putting the Vice President, speaker and members of Congress lives in danger. This is to ensure such attack on US democratic institutions must never happen again.

benalvino3:
You didn't refute anything that was said, we are focused on the lie being told in the J6 hearing not some unfunny comedian.

When you get sense you will be able to respond with something meaningful as of now, I feel sorry for you.

You guys need a shrink as you live in an alternate reality. How will I know the lie being told at the Jan6 committee? Was I there? I am not like you guys that makes all kinds of stupid claims without any basis.
Everyone is making claims, the accused persons are given opportunity to come and refute the claims under oath. Of course MAGAs run away from coming to state their own side of the story or plead the fifth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyg60yZhdy0

obixcel:
He should seek help. Trump is still living rent free in DemoRats' heads The level of made up stories they come up with is record breaking

Who has the records for making up stories? From kraken, to dead people voting, to Hugo chaves resurrecting to rig elections, to anifa being responsible for Jan 6, and a hundred other conspiracy theories.

benalvino3:
do your homework, all the liberal news media from CNN to NBC are reporting on this. I posted a video here of jake tapper where it was established the j6 commission don't av evidence for that other than hearsay

It's takes a special kind of stupidity mixed with insanity to be a Trump supporter. It's beyond belief.

Watch their stupidity and madness below. It's comical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ

ictplotter:
There is nothing like unwanted pregnancy, even the products of the so called wanted pregnancy hav constituted more havoc, irresponsibility and criminality in our society today. Greatnenes of a child is by destiny irrespective of the circumstances surrounding his birth. If u don't want to get pregnant, abstain from sex or apply family planning method, Than aborting an innocent child that millions of barren parents are having sleepless nights and trouble days to have.
There is no justification for bortion, it's a sin against humanity and who ever partake in it, is a killer.

You people are funny o. Na humanity get a woman's womb? A woman say she no want baby for her womb, una say una no gree, she must carry am for her womb. If she con commot her womb nko? The sperm go fertilise the egg in the fallopian tube but no womb to incubate the zygote. Is that one not murdering the baby also?
Una go kill am

delpee:
It is but what do we do about rape and incest induced pregnancies for instance? It's too much trauma for those involved. Some go into depression and are scarred for life.

I don't like the idea of killing an unborn child but we have to consider the carrier's health and state of mind. Ultimately, there's an impact on society which could be disastrous in the medium and long term.

Perhaps people can come up with better options.

You are not killing any child, you are aborting a pregnancy. There are two different things. You pro life people engage in emotional blackmail by using emotive terms like killing a baby, killing an unborn child, even sometimes murdering a child. The correct term is aborting a pregnancy.

Even where it is illegal, it is still never prosecuted as murdering or killing a baby.

pacespot:
Abortion is now the topic of discussion in Nigeria thanks to the US Roe Vs. Wade repeal. Can these people in Nigeria actually make their own policies without looking to the West

Not only Nigeria, many countries of the world is shocked by US repeal of Roe V Wade and have taken measures to safe guard abortion in their countries. France and Israel has quickly moved to incorporate legal abortion in their constitution. Many European countries are looking in that direction also.

Lagos don't want to become kano with millions of street children causing social menace.

Karnice600:
Christianity didn't spread by violence bro. At least Jesus didn't spread it with the Sword unlike Muhammed did for Islam. I know you're talking about the Crusaders. That was a political move by Rome to spread the occult Catholic influence. Same Rome that persecuted the disciples of Jesus Christ. The Colonial Masters came with religion and technology intertwined and they were willfully accepted by the Africans as superior to what they had already, in so much that the influence still lingers after the Colonizers had left. Christianity was spread with civilization through education by the early missionaries.
Its a different ball game from Islam that has jihad enshrined in the Quran. E no relate at all.

Buddhist are more in numbers compared to the Jews, yes they are. But so long as Christianity or Islam thrives, Jerusalem would ever be significant to both. That's why the Jews will always be relevant irrespective of their numbers.

Then you have not read how Peruvians and South American people were converted to Christianity. They were forcefully converted with guns and sword.

GreatAxeMan:
Sir, you're an agnostic not an atheist.

An agnostic is someone who doesn't believe in God, but is open to the idea of God if he receives material proof/evidence for God's existence.

An atheist on the other hand is someone who is 100% convinced that God has never existed and will never exist.

The problem with your distinction is your definition of God. The agnostic just like the atheist does not believe God is a Jewish man (or an arab man), with all human attributes dispensing justice using Jewish laws and customs on all.

The agnostic just like the atheist is open to the idea that a certain force might be responsible for the creation or start of the universe.

Michael547:
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Circular reasoning fallacy