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Politics › Re: Terrorists Currently Attacking Kuje Prison In Abuja by wirinet(m): 7:29am On Jul 06, 2022
Cognitivereason:
lol...maybe it too much hollywood that is disturbing your head..
please mention one fully fortified city that no one can even sneak in a hand gun huh huh huh

una go just open una mouth waaaa

the important thing is that they came under a resistance and eventually didnt succeed the same with bubu convoy.

the only situation u can begin swearing for bubu and the security is if they were overran
Are you sure they didn't succeed? You know Nigerian security agencies are the world champions in lying. The real story will come out later.
Politics › Re: "We Hid In The Bush", Witness Speaks On Attack On Buhari’s Convoy by wirinet(m): 7:02am On Jul 06, 2022
arantess:
Platoon kehuh?

How many does Obasanjo and good luck havehuh?

Nothing like platoon
I know Obasanjo has a full platoon guarding him as a retired full four star general. Major General, I am not sure of the number.

Jonathan Goodluck is not a retired general, so he is only entitled to a few (probably 2 to 4) mobile police men.
Politics › Re: Samuel Arogbonlo Says He Was Harrassed, Extorted By Police Officers by wirinet(m): 6:59am On Jul 06, 2022
Gbadespet:
I get your point bro ,but base on the fact that he's pman negotiated with the police shows the guy isn't clean at all...
Then you obviously have not dealt with Nigerian police before. Nigerian police as a whole has no control or checks and balance on individual police officers. They extort, intimidate, threaten and even kill poor innocent people without fear of any repercussion. Only if you know a senior politician or military/police officer would you escape their criminal tendencies.
Politics › Re: Samuel Arogbonlo Says He Was Harrassed, Extorted By Police Officers by wirinet(m): 6:42am On Jul 06, 2022
Gbadespet:
You no clean bro and seeing them suddenly you already jump out of your wit and they can see the phobia in you coz it's their job.....
Na only FRSC fit gimme problem for road ,the rest na dust coz before you even tell me to open my phone I don give them say make dem search everything,dem go just look sotey con tell me say sha find something for us .if I wish I give and if I don't wish no shit.....
Stay clean and conscience won't judge you or make sure you use that money find connection
I am really disappointed by this your comment. Are you aware that according to the law he is presumed innocent until proven otherwise? Do you also know that the police or any other person does not have the right to search your phone?

The police can use a simple crypto app on your phone to lock or torture you. Cryptos are not illegal. Government only stopped banks and financial institutions from dealing in cryptos. But a policeman sees crypto app on a phone as a crime.

I save my money in USDT as the naira (and even bitcoin) is too unstable for my liking. My savings might be halved this time next year. So I have Bifinance app on one of my phones. Is that a crime.

It is criminally wrong for policemen to profile a young as a criminal simply because he is driving a car. That's not different from US profiling all young Blackman as criminals.
Politics › Re: "We Hid In The Bush", Witness Speaks On Attack On Buhari’s Convoy by wirinet(m): 6:30am On Jul 06, 2022
Maxymilliano:
Lol ... And this is happened in Daura where Buhari plan to spend his retirement after a disastrous reign
He is relying on the security details that will be permanently attached to him as a retired general. (A platoon of soldiers I think)
Politics › Re: Terrorists Currently Attacking Kuje Prison In Abuja by wirinet(m):
Lonewolf2010:
Honestly what Nigeria needs now is disintegration and not any form of election, the person that will fix this evil contraption is not yet born.�P.S- Thank God Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is not there,ha! DSS could have link the attack to his supporters without any investigation. Nigerians should know this is no longer funny!
I do not support disintegration at the moment. Disintegration right now would put the south at a disadvantage and the Fulani and Kanuri north already has a well armed and embedded militia. The South are too disunited apart, from being poorly equipped and trained for war. The northern militia would just pluck the south, one village, town or city at a time.
We can only confront the Fulani and northern insurgency with a unified southern effort.
The Yorubas and Igbos better quit their childish superiority contests and rants and better unite first and then unite all southern tribes against an existential threat.
Politics › Re: Samuel Arogbonlo Says He Was Harrassed, Extorted By Police Officers by wirinet(m):
seankafor:
I was surprised even his father who should be elderly, more advanced, matured and more socially sophisticated doesn't have a lawyer in his contacts
If his father has a lawyer in his contact nko? They would have taken him to the station and force him to write an incriminating statement before the lawyer arrives. They might even plant drugs in his car and charge him for drug possession. Worse still, they could shoot him, plant a gun in his car and label him armed robber.

Something similar happened to me last week. My driver brushed an uber car and the car lost control to hit a traffic light close to Ajah. They took both cars to the police station and forced my driver to write a statement and then locked him up. Before my lawyer got there the following morning, there was nothing he could do as my driver had already written a statement incriminating himself and absolving the other driver. Obviously the uber company and the police in charge of the case are working together. The responsibility of fixing the traffic light which was damaged by the other car and the repairs of the other car is now my responsibility. If we go to court my drivers written and signed statement would be used against him.

The guys father did the wise thing. Even if he decides to call a lawyer, would the lawyer not collect money? Then he would pay for both police and then court bail apart form other inconveniences, which might be more than the 200k the police (criminals or kidnappers) are asking for.

The Nigerian state is completely broken and we are living in an Hobbesian society, where life is poor, nasty, brutish, and short.
Politics › Re: Terrorists Currently Attacking Kuje Prison In Abuja by wirinet(m): 5:47am On Jul 06, 2022
Afolabimills:
Let all well meaning Nigerians know this were ever u work as long as u are not a fulani not a northern Muslims we are not safe it's time something must be done let's all get prepared buhari and it's evil people are responsible for this evil
I agree 100%. Yorubas used to be proactive. In the past when Yoruba land was threatened, they got together for the common purpose of defending their land and stopped the invaders. Even under the brutal Abacha regime, Yorubas got together to form OPC to confront the Abacha dictatorship. But these present crop of Yoruba leaders don't care about Yoruba land. They only care about their personal selfish ambition. Yoruba land is gradually but surely being encircled and all they care about is presidency. If Buhari, a Fulani man is finding it impossible to curtail the Fulani and northern insurgency, how does a Yoruba man at the helm of affairs think he can control it. Given that our security and information apparatus has been taken over by northerners.
Politics › Re: Terrorists Currently Attacking Kuje Prison In Abuja by wirinet(m): 4:12am On Jul 06, 2022
Oju4190:
The guy was already down that was why he couldn't video anything meaningful....Trust Yoruba man on this
If na IPOB, he for stand straight with his chest facing the bullet. You know say bullet no de enter brave igbo man chest.
Politics › Re: Terrorists Currently Attacking Kuje Prison In Abuja by wirinet(m): 4:10am On Jul 06, 2022
iwaeda:
Gunmen suspected to be terrorists are currently attacking the Kuje correctional facility in Abuja, Federal Capital Territory.

Multiple sources told SaharaReporters that the gunmen invaded the facility around 10 pm but security operatives were able to repel the attack.

Kuje Prison

“Can you hear the gunshot, we are under serious attack,” one of the sources said.

Kuje prison was established in 1989, it has a minimum and maximum holding cells where inmates are incarcerated.

It is famous for holding high-profile offenders, including former governors and ministers.

https://saharareporters.com/2022/07/05/breaking-terrorists-currently-attacking-kuje-prison-abuja
Buhari is a tragedy. And I was one of the one that criticize Jonathan for being incompetent on security and corruption. It turned out that Buhari is 10 times worse. How can a president still remain in office while his residence(capital) and home town is under attack from insurgents (wrongly called bandits)? I just don't understand.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Lied He Has No House Abroad, See His House In London by wirinet(m): 9:19am On Jul 04, 2022
Macphenson:
Where is Peter Obi's family till date?

Where was his wife even when he was governor of Anambra?

How many times have u seen his wife in Nigeria and in Public domain?
Yes he has his business in Nigeria doesn't mean he is london based?

What you should try and find out is When he bought the house in London?

Also verify if he has a house anywhere else in Nigeria especially Lagos and Abuja as is characterirtic with other politicians.
Stop defending someone blindly. That Peter Obi never bought a house in Nigeria (Lagos) is unbelievable. He did all his business in Lagos. He and his family was living in FESTAC. So you mean to tell me that a man as rich as Peter Obi then (chairman of a bank) was living in rented apartment?

I am not saying a politician must be squeaky clean, but Peter Obi is trying to hard to present himself as a Saint. No one would have raised any eyebrow if he admitted he has a few houses in lagos.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Lied He Has No House Abroad, See His House In London by wirinet(m): 8:23am On Jul 04, 2022
gidgiddy:
These enquiries you are making about Peter Obi, did you also make similar for other Presidential aspirants such as Tinubu, Atiku and Kwankwaso?

Or did you target Peter Obi out of bias?
The media have exposed Tinubu far more than Obi. Obi is the one in the spotlight now. Next will be Kwankwaso.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Lied He Has No House Abroad, See His House In London by wirinet(m): 8:21am On Jul 04, 2022
Macphenson:
Liar. How can he deny where he was staying before becoming a governor. Thats where his family is staying till date.

Even as a governor, his wife was not always in the state as she is used to their home inn London.

Go and verify.

You people should try harder. You really have nothing on this wonderful administrator.
It's you that is lying. Peter Obi was not resident in the UK before he became governor. He was doing his business in Nigeria. He was the sole distributor of Heinz products. His office was on Aerodrome Road in Apapa. My wife's office on the same Aerodrome Road was next building to Peter Obi's office.

I just asked my wife about his residence then as she knew him and his brother (Chukwuma). She informed me that he was living in Festac.

She further informed me that he ran to London during the Ngige saga when hired assassins were after him. He escaped assassination attempts twice. She also further added that the building (which is beside Panasonic) belongs to Peter Obi.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Lied He Has No House Abroad, See His House In London by wirinet(m): 7:45am On Jul 04, 2022
Gohs:
Peter Obi had already bought that house in the 90s — long before he became a governor.

Let's not argue over this at all.
What was he doing that he was able to afford a house in London at the age of 34.

The only job he stated on his INEC form was Fidelity Bank, no dates or designation.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Lied He Has No House Abroad, See His House In London by wirinet(m): 6:30am On Jul 04, 2022
kingjiss:
Some Nigerians are very stupid and Foolish

Peter as a student owned a house where sultan of sokoto lived in enugu state ,

If as a student he owned a house,don't you think he got the house in england when he was a bank manager?

Some foolish and stupid Nigerians kill those that fight for them fast without knowing
How did Peter Obi as a student acquire a house big and luxurious enough to house the Sultan of Sokoto?
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Lied He Has No House Abroad, See His House In London by wirinet(m): 6:28am On Jul 04, 2022
[quote author= post=114400354]Dumbo Peter was leaving in UK even before he joined Nigeria politics[/quote]What dates was he living in the UK and what was he doing there that made him so rich? Was he working for a multinational company like Tinubu did? Was he doing business in the UK? What was his immigration status in the UK?

I searched for information on his educational and employment career. The information I could gleam of the internet is very sketchy. The only dated information was that he graduated from UNN with a degree in philosophy in 1984. Any other information after that was not dated. He was said to have numerous other schools in the US, UK and Switzerland, but the dates and qualifications obtained were never stated. The year he served (NYSC) were never stated.
How he made his money we were never told, we were only informed that he became chairman of Fidelity Bank in early 2000s.

There are too many holes in Peter Obi's background, particularly in his employment/business background. You guys need to fill them to expect Nigerians to support him.
Politics › Re: Atiku Changed His Name From Siddiq, Earned A Masters Degree With GCE Results by wirinet(m): 12:18pm On Jul 03, 2022
GreatAxeMan:
The presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Atiku Abubakar, says he wished to be known by his current name and not by his West African School Certificate which carries the name “Siddiq Abubakar.”
This is not how change of name works. There are procedures for legally changing your name. You just don't submit a document bearing one name and simply attach a letter stating the name you wished to be called.

According to documents displayed by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), Atiku did not provide information on his primary education.
Then he does not possess the minimum qualification for contesting for the office of the president in Nigeria.

The 1965 West Africa School Certificate (WASC) result presented by him identified the student as Siddiq Abubakar.
Then he needs to support the name change with supporting affidavit and other documents relating to change of name.

He also holds a Master’s degree in International Relations from Anglia Ruskin University in the United Kingdom.

From the documents, SaharaReporters observed that Atiku earned a Master’s degree in 2021 with GCE O’level results.
What name is on the certificate from Anglia Ruskin University? Is it Siddiq Abubakar or Atiku Abubakar? What certificates did he use to gain admission into the said university?

Furthermore Nigerian journalists including Seun and Sowore should also beam their search light on the educational and family background of Atiku Abubakar and not only Bola Tinubu. What primary and secondary schools did he attend? Who are his parents, his brothers and family? where did he depend his childhood and youth? Which qualifications did he use to getting employed into the Nigerian Custom Service?

They also need to dig out his INEC forms he submitted before contesting for the governorship election in 1999 and the ones he submitted in 2017, 2011, 2015 and 2019 presidential elections.

I hope other candidates will take him to court on these grounds.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:43pm On Jul 02, 2022
Weregonnalose:
ya donkey, ya got that ah girl ah pregnant ye. kikikikiki ya. ya is a right, he is ah annoying because he isa disagree with ah ya ye. kikikikiki

who isa ask ye?
There is a popular adage that says "Never argue with a wèrè bystanders won’t be able to tell who’s who."
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:15pm On Jul 02, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Are you trying to be a clown?

How many women discover their pregnancy status in 6 weeks how many days was Roe overturned? A week ago how do you expect them to know this and take care of it within such timeframe.
Keep quiet and stop talking about irresponsible people are you responsible yourself
This fixation on people's sexual choices is very alarming tagging it irresponsibility is clownery because married people are not spared from such realities too.
That guy is so annoying. He talks on issues he has no idea about. He is trying too hard to be a hard right Conservative. He is neither a woman or at best a doctor ('gynecologist), but he claims to an expert in pregnancy related issues. I have seen a woman go three months without her knowing she was pregnant. Very young first timers can go 2 yo 3 months without realising they are pregnant.

Asking a 12 year old girl who was raped to carry the child to term is to me the height of wickedness. The person has no soul, or has very dark soul. There is a high chance the girl will be scared for life - physically (VVF) or emotionally.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 8:49pm On Jul 02, 2022
SeaTrade:
The way you people assume and throw words around without knowing who you're talking to baffle me a lot.
Oga there are countries that have developed their steel sector so much that the economies of scale they've acquired on it has made them unbeatable in the international steel market.
They can produce it cheaper and sell cheaper and make Nigeria investing on it stupid since an industrialist can always import from those countries way cheaper than he would have gotten buying from Nigeria.
You don't just go about investing out of emotions.
Steel isn't a sector that has an international cartel like OPEC that fixes it's price worldwide.
If not for OPEC,Nigeria oil would have been useless because countries like US,Saudi,Russia would have use their capacity to make Nigeria oil unsellable and useless.
We can discuss without you throwing words around please.
But we are both saying the same thing. I don't subscribe to the government throwing money away in steel plant. We have wasted enough billions of dollars. We should just import. When in talking about steel industry, I don't mean steel production, I am talking about turning steel into first machines tools and then machines and machinery and finally products. Same with plastic industry.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 8:35pm On Jul 02, 2022
SeaTrade:
Easy fix,increase Chinese and India import tarriff at the ports to offset local cost disadvantage inefficiencies. cool
It's doesn't work with the Chinese. Many countries have tried that and it had always failed. Why? Because the Chinese government resort to "dumping". They reduce (subsidise)the price of their product to meet whatever tariff you place. The Chinese strategy is econonics of scale. They make profit from shear scale of production instead of price mark up on individual items. They have excellent infrastructure, very low interest rate and strict government control, its very difficult for even US and Europe to compete.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 8:17pm On Jul 02, 2022
SeaTrade:
Steel mining isn't developing here because of cheaper imports of the same steel.
It's not government's place to make steel available for industry,let the private sector handle that if they can.
I also don't think we aren't manufacturing a great deal because of lack of mining capacities.
There are great nations out there that don't even have steel deposits.
How then did they do it?
Only thing they need to fix is power.
You obviously are not in the real (productive) business. Probably you are an admin person. I have undertaken many productive businesses. Steel (and recently plastics) is the backbone any industrialisation. countries use steel bans and tarrif as an effective weapon in a diplomatic or economic war. Nigeria's industrialisation was stalled because of the failure of Ajaokuta and Delta steel industries. Nations without steel deposits import from other countries.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 8:10pm On Jul 02, 2022
Saintinoo:
For you to develop the manufacturering sector, you must develop the power and mining sector. Where will the manufacturers get raw materials from. Ask innoson how much has spend on steel, Dangote how much he spends to get lime stone. These raw materials should be made available and easy to get by manufacturers.

And about China, those guys are having a field day because the government is corrupt.
I now understand what you mean by mining. You mean mining for local industries as against mining to collect rent. I am still not convinced as mining is prone to abuse. Since we do not possess the machinery, technical knowhow and refining capacity to process mined materials to usable materials, we will still have to depend on the Chinese and Indians to mine for us. And you know how these people are degrading the people and the environment in other parts of Africa.

I will prefer we import raw materials from and recycle for now. There is an enormous potential in recycling old materials into new raw materials. Even the recycling industry is dominated by Chinese and Indians. I will prefer Tinubu or Peter Obi talks about building manpower and skills apart from infrastructures essential for development.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 7:52pm On Jul 02, 2022
pacesetting:
That's why I always say Tinubu has nothing to offer Nigeria.

Otherwise, he will know a credit system will not work in Nigeria's current state. The first thing is to empower SMEs and provide a conducive environment for them to strive.
With diesel at 900/litre, horrible roads and multiple taxation - both legal and illegal? Remember the SMEs will have to compete in terms of price and quality with SMEs in China, Vietnam and India.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 7:44pm On Jul 02, 2022
Saintinoo:
Tinubu is not an economist, he studied business administration. though they said he worked as an accountant.

What Nigeria needs right now is investment in the power and mining sector in order to help the manufacturers. The a massive investment in education and SMEs. Then we can start talking about car loans, who will collect the car loans? is it the millions of unemployed youths he wants to give car loan?

That was how Buhari started sharing 30k and 10k in the name of social investment. These people are not serious at all. As a graduate of Economics I feel sorry for this country anytime I see politicians bringing useless policies.

The problem is that Nigeria politicians who think they know the economy well, ignorantly use political economy policies.
I agree with with except your mention of the mining sector. Mining has always been exploitative and destructive in nature. Foreigners (Chinese and Europeans) will just continue to exploit and destroy our people and environment, while our people (governments, communities and youths) will to kill each other to collect rent. That's what has brought sub-Saharan Africa to its present sorry state.

What we need is education. Technical, entrepreneural and scientific education. We must encourage research in other to solve our own problems instead of hopelessly depending on outsiders. We must convert from being consumers to producers.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 6:28pm On Jul 02, 2022
Saintinoo:
If you think that car loans is what Nigeria youths need right now, then you are not serious. Car loans are the least of what Nigeria needs right now, I don't know when last you entered the nearby market in your locality.

Nigeria needs more than a car loan policy.
That's why I am disappointed at Tinubu who claims to be an economist, an accountant and a businessman. He is still talking about consumption instead of production. If a civil servant takes a loan to buy a foreign car (Tokunbo for that matter), which economy will it benefit? Our importation bill will continue to rise and our naira will continue to fall.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 6:15pm On Jul 02, 2022
FuckOsuPigs:
He just used that as an example. Someone earning 100k does not necessarily have to go fo a N3.5m car. In a multilateral arrangement involving banks and FG, workers can actually obtain car loans for 5 years (60 months) and mortgage loans for 20 years (240 months) on a single digit interest rate. I'm a banker and I currently enjoy this benefit. This is what obtains in UK, Canada and US.

The man is making sense. Despise the messenger but don't hate the message. Take emotion out of it.
Are you a banker in Nigeria or in China? In Nigeria's current inflation rate alone hovers around 18%. CBN interest rate is 13%. Banks that borrows from CBN must input their running and administrative costs (before even talking about profit) before giving out loans. That's why loans from banks is around 25 -30%. So how are you able to get single digit loan in Nigeria'?
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 4:42pm On Jul 02, 2022
CheapHomes1:
The question is very straightforward.

What system is he creating? If it can work in the US, why is it working in the US?
It's working in the US because they have single digit credit rate and inflation. And the dollar is stable.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 4:41pm On Jul 02, 2022
Funflipper:
You see yourself. Until Nigeria embrace the credit system. everything will crinue to fall apart. Imagine your level of ignorance on mortgage and credit lines. Anybody earning 50k a month with good credit should be able to afford a car of 2 million naira which will be paid over the years depending on your down payment. If the system is not changed now, you will start hear civil servants stealing 3 trillion naira because you have to pay 100% for everything.
Someone earning 50k a month should be able to afford a car of 2million on credit? Are you joking? Won't he spend out of that 50k salary on transport, feeding, housing, medicals, electricity, family, etc. Will the 50K even cover his living expenses? Then when he purchase the car, will he run it on water? Will he get free service and parts for the car? If any of the Lagos Revenue collection agencies like LASMA or VIO catch him for one flimsy excuse or the other, he will be fined more than 50k.

When a bag of rice is now 35k, gas is going to N10/12kg cylinder, electricity is about N60/Kwh, petrol is trending towards N300/litre, etc, you are talking about N50k per month salary being credit worthy.
Politics › Re: Tinubu: Until We Have A Good Credit System, We Can't Conquer Corruption by wirinet(m): 4:27pm On Jul 02, 2022
Kennedyli:
Is this the best of Tinubu? Unfortunately he's saying gibberish even after all the editing.

How would someone earning 100k afford ro pay back a car loan of 3.5 million?

Even with a credit system. It will take 100% of his salary for over 2 years to pay for the car.

Which lender will agree to such a deal?

BTw Nigeria already has a credit system. Loan apps like Carbon and Branch use it.

The next president should focus on increasing local production to strengthen the naira.
So that car of 3.5 mil can go back to the 1.5 mil it was sold 7 years ago.

TINUBU HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.
What's the interest rate? What is the CDN's interest rate and banks interest rate? At an interest rate of 25% - 30% per annun, how long will it take someone earning N100,000 to pay back a loan of N3.5million? (very few tokumbo cars cost N3.5million today.)
Politics › Re: Copy Of Tinubu's University And NYSC Certificate And Testimonial From University by wirinet(m): 3:05pm On Jul 01, 2022
cuteboy2:
No we can't rest. Have you looked closely at that NYSC certificate? The name there says: "Bola Adekunle Tinubu", not "Bola Ahmed Tinubu" which he claims as his real name.

Every document this man presents has issues.
Another mystery with the name is Bola. Bola means bring wealth as against Ola which simply means wealth. what does the Bola stand for? Bola is short for something, ie. Abimbola (born in weath), Adebola (crown beings weath), bolaji(wake with wealth or born with wealth), bolanle (wealth came home), etc.

One would have expected his official documents to bear his full name, but they are all short form or abbreviations. It like someone simply bearing Ade, Ola, Olu, Ayo, etc.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:09pm On Jun 30, 2022
budaatum:
America is not crumbling before my eyes just because of one drumpthgp or Clarence. Perhaps that's because I'm seeing elsewhere though.

The wheels of democracy run slowly, so one must learn to be patient.
Societies don't crumble over night, it some times takes decades or even centuries. If Trump had succeeded in its coup attempt. Then all the checks and balances that had help America remain great for over 150 years would have started crumbling one by one.

Trump did not fail completely, he has radically changed the Supreme Court to the radical right for the next 20 odd years.

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