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Onlinedet:
Lol... I don't want to sound like I'm defending the couple, but I also believe that the lady was the one that agreed for her family to be sent the money. My point is that everything was consensual and mutual to some extent. But normally, we all know that it's in human nature to want more for themselves regardless of the former agreement. So, we can say she later realised that she could have more than just basic needs... And if the couple had known that she would breach the agreement and go to the UK police, I believe they would have revoked their name from her visa, and she would have had to go back to Nigeria. They probably thought they could just bring her from one village in Nigeria and take her in as a house help, just like it's done in Nigeria...
I just feel for the little kids that would be staying without their parents for two years Shaa.
This just goes to show that one needs to be careful even when helping others, because even the person you think you're helping could turn against you anytime they feel they're not getting enough...
I repeat; it's all shades of grey

As a Nigerian, our conscience has been deadened by both culture and religion. We are taught that exploitation of the weak - poor, women and children is acceptable and even desirable. In the west, exploiting these group of people without appropriate employment terms is termed modern slavery. Agreements contrary to these terms are null and void from the beginning. There are lots of NGOs specifically dedicated to fighting against such exploitation.

I have three children and I never agreed to use teenage children, very poor relatives or exploit a desperate poor stranger to help raise them. My wife and I raised my children all by ourselves, with occasional help from my mother. I know lots of couples with less income with 2 or 3 exploitative "househelps" baby sitting their children. Nigerians have normalised such behaviour. It's not condoned at all in Europe.

The case has been decided, the couple was found to have broken their laws and they have been sentenced. So the the matter of a consensual agreement has been defeated. Furthermore, the general society is appalled by such behaviour and decided to vent their anger. You might find such behaviour acceptable, but the British society does not.

Onlinedet:
"It doesn't matter what she agreed to". My point exactly. Considering that it was categorically stated that there was no form of abuse, and she willingly stayed back in North Ireland to work for them while they took care of her (clothing, food and housing) and sent some money to her family in Nigeria. I'm not saying that it was fair enough. It's just all shades of grey.

That's the definition of modern day slavery. Why should your employer send send some money to your family and not pay you directly? Even such things are common place here in Nigeria, it is considered illegal in the western world.

basilico:
How old do you think that girl is? I hope the bot does not ban me. He was having an affair with her. He has not been charged.
Mods please dont ban me.

The other one is his creepy father, Hunter has of today saved him on his contacts as "Pedo Pete"

Evil people Yet you scream about Trump all day
Birds of a feather flock together.

How does this concern the topic under discussion? You like jumping from one issue to other unrelated issues. I care less about hunter Biden's sex/love or drug life as he his not an elected or public office holder. Biden has been in politics and public life for over 4 decades. If he had committed any sex offence, it should have come up before the elections.
Trump has been accused by 25 women of sexual harassment and by 2 prostitutes of intimidation, and he confessed to "grabbing them by the pussy", you still choose to worship him. It means sex crimes or deviance is not important to you.

Skyonebaba:
Before 2015 how many Igbo Muslims were into the southeast politics , people we will wake and start talking rubbish. They are more northern christians than eastern Muslims

He has a point. Igbo are not very tolerant or liberal to foreigners in their own land. They will not even allow igbos from other South East states into their civil service not to talk of politics. Igbos are also generally intolerant to Muslims.

basilico:
Everyone is allowed to protest. The intention of the protest was not to storm congress. It was to make sure they knew a crowd outside felt the separate group of electors would be discussed. Some states had sent an objectional list of electors ( I will get you that list) and the procedures I outlined above were supposed to have been followed. Instead a pipe bomb was found and the session was cancelled just before Ray Epps gang removed the barricades. And Trump rally 20 minutes later ended after Ray Epps and his FBI fiends had started the chaos.
The whole thing was a setup. It does not take an idiot to see that unless your brains are closed,

Here is a video of Democrats objecting in 2017. Objections have been there so Trump doing the same was no crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZtrFaa8Tw

Here is CCTV footage of the guy who stopped the objectors before discussions on the electors started. FBI have all these videos they have never arrested him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGedQ17XqI

Every one has the right to ptotest, but not on the Capitol balcony and certainly not on the legislative chamber at the time of certification. And no one of the protesters has the right to stop the steal.

How were the protesters made aware of alternative electors when the issue was only brought up on the floor of the house. Even the Vice president was not aware of alternative electors until it was raised on the floor.

Then how did alternative electors emerge? The secretaries of states had already ratified the results and the state legislatures had already ratified the results and sent electors, so who sent the alternative set of electors, and on what election results was it based? There is a process of sending electors to Congress. Till today, the state legislatures had not protested the electors that was sent to Congress. If every candidate is allowed to send his own electors to Congress without recourse to the elections then there will never ge peaceful transfer of power in US ever again. All elections will end up with violence until a civil war ensues.

basilico:
I have given you a list of all electoral objections from 2000. Your mind should be not sealed. Read that link.I dont live in America I love honesty not the lies you are putting forth after It is codified in Law which is what Trump were discussing. There is no crime there.

Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 has set the method for objections by Members of Congress to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, lawmakers may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately for no more than two hours; each Member may speak for five minutes or less. After each house votes on whether to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If both chambers agree to the objection, the electoral votes in question are not counted. If either chamber opposes the objection, the votes are counted.
Objections to the Electoral College votes were recorded in 1969, 2005, and 2021. In all cases, the House and Senate rejected the objections and the votes in question were counted.

What are you arguing about? No one is questioning normal legislative objections on the floor of the house. As you pointed out, it it is part of the normal certification process. The bone of contention is a "stop the steal" protest/riot that attempted to thaw the whole process of certification by violent means. There had never been a violent attempt to stop the certification of election result by Congress in US history.

basilico:
Democrats have been doing that for years. Free your mind then the rest will follow
https://rollcall.com/2017/01/06/trump-election-is-made-official-over-scattered-objections/

Democrats had never organised a protest (or riot) on the day Congress certified the presidential elections in an attempt to "stop the steal". A few Democrats raising objections on the floor of the house had no effect on the certification of the results.

Tell me how did you guys plan to stop the steal on the day the result was to be certified? What was the intention of the protest/riot the exact time the elections were to be ratified?

armyofone:
Basically - he shouldn't have attended that Jan 6th event. "Your presence" "as a leader" - mind you.

Knowing that day was the day for doing what the constitution asked to be done - he should not be holding or attending the so called stop the steal demonstration.

There are so many things we can't change but accept and grumble

The "stop the steal" slogan itself was an indictment of Trump's complicity in the insurrection. How were they to "stop the steal"?

On a day the congress was to ratify the result of an election, you call your radical supporters to got to the Capitol to stop the steal. That means you called them to stop the process (by violence), as all efforts to persuade the Vice president from ratifying the results failed.

COMPAQ:
You can't pay N20k ($33) for dstv, yet you are clamouring for Starlink that currently costs N66k ($110)?

Please explain that logic!

For 20k you can hardly get 100Gb of data at a less than 100kb/s. With starlink they say they will provide true unlimited data at between 150-500 Mbps.

It pays a medium to big business company to subscribe to such a service than the poor and expensive service being offered currently .

KaluwisxPRO:
You must be blind then

It's you that's blind. Billionaires that make their wealth through hard work do not waste it on frivolities. Ask Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffet or even Dangote.

Theone123:
When you have money, like money.... 10m naira becomes your ₦10. Ask Elon musk.

And you think Elon Musk will spend his hard earned money to buy a $10,000 cake?

Elon Musk had been married twice. Did you thing he spent a fortune doing "owambe" just to show off for one day?

Dannycypher:
Their choice. When money talks.




uote author=naijaclass post=114665328]A Nigerian couple have set tongues wagging online following the expensive giant cake they used for their wedding.

They reportedly spent the total sum of N3.5 million to get a baking team to design the cake like a Lexus SUV car.

A video which has gone viral shows he bride and groom pulling up to their wedding reception in the car cake being pushed remote controlled and they stunned guests.

It was gathered that it took a total of 7 days for the car cake to be made and about 7000 eggs were used.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cf3242RgrYu/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I gather that that's a big lie.

My wife is a Baker. She specialises in cakes for that matter.

She says, 1 Nigerian egg weights approximately 60g. That means the cake was baked with 7000 X 60g, which equals 420,000g or 420kg. That's over 8 bags of flour. In standard cake recipe, the weight measurement of eggs is usually equivalent to the weight measurement of flour. So therefore, the cake was baked with 8 bags of flour. Sugar should be about 20% less than flour.. That means 7 bags of 50kg sugar was also used in the cake.

Now does that sound reasonable?

Imka:
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Iswap controlling all of Nigeria before mid 2023.
Just as the Taliban overran Afghanistan and nothing happened, ISWAP is certainly gonna take over . This is the plan of the caliphate and agent zero. Zero made it all a walk in the park while you all were sleep walking.

I agree this is the game plan. ISWAP will launch a full scale attack once Buhari leaves. With the capabilities shown by ISWAP during this prison attack along internal sabotage by political and military officials, I don't see them not taking over Aso Rock. There are sleeper cells already all over the South, while the south is still sleeping. Taking over the South will be a breeze. The serenio will be like Afghanistan where less than 50,000 Taliban militia (me I would say much less, probably 30,000), took over a country of over 35 million with N180,000 US equipped military. Nigeria with less than 50,000 ill equipped and trained soldiers cannot face N10,000 trained, equipped and battle hardened ISWAP and Boko Haram fighters.

Okobola146:
BRIDGET EDOKWE ·
JULY 6, 2022

JUST IN: Boko Haram takes over Kuje federal prisons; releases hardened criminals into Abuja
Boko Haram fighters have seized control of the prisons in Kuje, an Abuja suburb, freeing hardened criminals into the nation’s capital.



The insurgents stormed the facility at about 10:00 p.m., detonating explosives and opening live rounds on state agents guarding the facility, according to a senior government official.

“Suspected Boko Haram attackers have just seized the prisons from our control,” an official said to Peoples Gazette. “They have destroyed the prison and we don’t know what they plan to do next.”

Why are there no campaign for Buhari to resign or be impeached?

Cognitivereason:
lol.. I am not saying we have the best security architecture but certainly.. if buhari was in his convoy..he would definitely be in a fully fortified armoured vehicle. you will also have several gun trucks before and after his own vehicle..

there are bomb detection vehicles very close to the official vehicle..also he travels in a fleet of about 40 vehicles..atleast 30 of which are field with armed soldiers ,police and DSS officials...

like I said as far as bubu was confortable in his official car..definitely it unlike for the terrorist to succeed without heavy resistance..

even president john F kennedy was murdered in his convoy in the US..a whole america

I am not talking about Buhari, I was referring to kuje prison.

GreyLaw:
Please get your facts right. A former president cannot have just 2 - 4 mobile police men. In OBJ's House do you know the number of DSS operatives there? Even civil defence. They are all there!

Those guys have both police and soldiers and secret service attached to them. Imagine common Burna boy has police people attached to him and you expect a former president to have just 2 - 4 security officers. Lol...

You should be the one to get your facts right. Civilian ex-presidents don't have military as part of their security details. Army has army officers guarding their retired generals, Navy has navy officers guarding their retired naval admirals and ditto for airforce. Civilian ex-president has mobile policemen in place of military officers.

I don't know much about DSS and civil defense, probably they are attached to retired military generals and ex-presidents for keeping an eye on them by the current government, in case they are planning a coup. But I know they are not usually in the security details that follows the principal when mobile or traveling. Most likely they are stationed in the residences and offices of the principal.

Cognitivereason:
lol...maybe it too much hollywood that is disturbing your head..
please mention one fully fortified city that no one can even sneak in a hand gun huh

una go just open una mouth waaaa

the important thing is that they came under a resistance and eventually didnt succeed the same with bubu convoy.

the only situation u can begin swearing for bubu and the security is if they were overran

Are you sure they didn't succeed? You know Nigerian security agencies are the world champions in lying. The real story will come out later.

arantess:
Platoon ke?

How many does Obasanjo and good luck have?

Nothing like platoon

I know Obasanjo has a full platoon guarding him as a retired full four star general. Major General, I am not sure of the number.

Jonathan Goodluck is not a retired general, so he is only entitled to a few (probably 2 to 4) mobile police men.

Gbadespet:
I get your point bro ,but base on the fact that he's pman negotiated with the police shows the guy isn't clean at all...

Then you obviously have not dealt with Nigerian police before. Nigerian police as a whole has no control or checks and balance on individual police officers. They extort, intimidate, threaten and even kill poor innocent people without fear of any repercussion. Only if you know a senior politician or military/police officer would you escape their criminal tendencies.

Gbadespet:
You no clean bro and seeing them suddenly you already jump out of your wit and they can see the phobia in you coz it's their job.....
Na only FRSC fit gimme problem for road ,the rest na dust coz before you even tell me to open my phone I don give them say make dem search everything,dem go just look sotey con tell me say sha find something for us .if I wish I give and if I don't wish no shit.....
Stay clean and conscience won't judge you or make sure you use that money find connection

I am really disappointed by this your comment. Are you aware that according to the law he is presumed innocent until proven otherwise? Do you also know that the police or any other person does not have the right to search your phone?

The police can use a simple crypto app on your phone to lock or torture you. Cryptos are not illegal. Government only stopped banks and financial institutions from dealing in cryptos. But a policeman sees crypto app on a phone as a crime.

I save my money in USDT as the naira (and even bitcoin) is too unstable for my liking. My savings might be halved this time next year. So I have Bifinance app on one of my phones. Is that a crime.

It is criminally wrong for policemen to profile a young as a criminal simply because he is driving a car. That's not different from US profiling all young Blackman as criminals.

Maxymilliano:
Lol ... And this is happened in Daura where Buhari plan to spend his retirement after a disastrous reign

He is relying on the security details that will be permanently attached to him as a retired general. (A platoon of soldiers I think)

Lonewolf2010:
Honestly what Nigeria needs now is disintegration and not any form of election, the person that will fix this evil contraption is not yet born.�P.S- Thank God Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is not there,ha! DSS could have link the attack to his supporters without any investigation. Nigerians should know this is no longer funny!

I do not support disintegration at the moment. Disintegration right now would put the south at a disadvantage and the Fulani and Kanuri north already has a well armed and embedded militia. The South are too disunited apart, from being poorly equipped and trained for war. The northern militia would just pluck the south, one village, town or city at a time.
We can only confront the Fulani and northern insurgency with a unified southern effort.
The Yorubas and Igbos better quit their childish superiority contests and rants and better unite first and then unite all southern tribes against an existential threat.

seankafor:
I was surprised even his father who should be elderly, more advanced, matured and more socially sophisticated doesn't have a lawyer in his contacts

If his father has a lawyer in his contact nko? They would have taken him to the station and force him to write an incriminating statement before the lawyer arrives. They might even plant drugs in his car and charge him for drug possession. Worse still, they could shoot him, plant a gun in his car and label him armed robber.

Something similar happened to me last week. My driver brushed an uber car and the car lost control to hit a traffic light close to Ajah. They took both cars to the police station and forced my driver to write a statement and then locked him up. Before my lawyer got there the following morning, there was nothing he could do as my driver had already written a statement incriminating himself and absolving the other driver. Obviously the uber company and the police in charge of the case are working together. The responsibility of fixing the traffic light which was damaged by the other car and the repairs of the other car is now my responsibility. If we go to court my drivers written and signed statement would be used against him.

The guys father did the wise thing. Even if he decides to call a lawyer, would the lawyer not collect money? Then he would pay for both police and then court bail apart form other inconveniences, which might be more than the 200k the police (criminals or kidnappers) are asking for.

The Nigerian state is completely broken and we are living in an Hobbesian society, where life is poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Afolabimills:
Let all well meaning Nigerians know this were ever u work as long as u are not a fulani not a northern Muslims we are not safe it's time something must be done let's all get prepared buhari and it's evil people are responsible for this evil

I agree 100%. Yorubas used to be proactive. In the past when Yoruba land was threatened, they got together for the common purpose of defending their land and stopped the invaders. Even under the brutal Abacha regime, Yorubas got together to form OPC to confront the Abacha dictatorship. But these present crop of Yoruba leaders don't care about Yoruba land. They only care about their personal selfish ambition. Yoruba land is gradually but surely being encircled and all they care about is presidency. If Buhari, a Fulani man is finding it impossible to curtail the Fulani and northern insurgency, how does a Yoruba man at the helm of affairs think he can control it. Given that our security and information apparatus has been taken over by northerners.

Oju4190:
The guy was already down that was why he couldn't video anything meaningful....Trust Yoruba man on this

If na IPOB, he for stand straight with his chest facing the bullet. You know say bullet no de enter brave igbo man chest.

iwaeda:
Gunmen suspected to be terrorists are currently attacking the Kuje correctional facility in Abuja, Federal Capital Territory.

Multiple sources told SaharaReporters that the gunmen invaded the facility around 10 pm but security operatives were able to repel the attack.

Kuje Prison

“Can you hear the gunshot, we are under serious attack,” one of the sources said.

Kuje prison was established in 1989, it has a minimum and maximum holding cells where inmates are incarcerated.

It is famous for holding high-profile offenders, including former governors and ministers.

https://saharareporters.com/2022/07/05/breaking-terrorists-currently-attacking-kuje-prison-abuja

Buhari is a tragedy. And I was one of the one that criticize Jonathan for being incompetent on security and corruption. It turned out that Buhari is 10 times worse. How can a president still remain in office while his residence(capital) and home town is under attack from insurgents (wrongly called bandits)? I just don't understand.

Macphenson:
Where is Peter Obi's family till date?

Where was his wife even when he was governor of Anambra?

How many times have u seen his wife in Nigeria and in Public domain?
Yes he has his business in Nigeria doesn't mean he is london based?

What you should try and find out is When he bought the house in London?

Also verify if he has a house anywhere else in Nigeria especially Lagos and Abuja as is characterirtic with other politicians.

Stop defending someone blindly. That Peter Obi never bought a house in Nigeria (Lagos) is unbelievable. He did all his business in Lagos. He and his family was living in FESTAC. So you mean to tell me that a man as rich as Peter Obi then (chairman of a bank) was living in rented apartment?

I am not saying a politician must be squeaky clean, but Peter Obi is trying to hard to present himself as a Saint. No one would have raised any eyebrow if he admitted he has a few houses in lagos.

gidgiddy:
These enquiries you are making about Peter Obi, did you also make similar for other Presidential aspirants such as Tinubu, Atiku and Kwankwaso?

Or did you target Peter Obi out of bias?

The media have exposed Tinubu far more than Obi. Obi is the one in the spotlight now. Next will be Kwankwaso.

Macphenson:
Liar. How can he deny where he was staying before becoming a governor. Thats where his family is staying till date.

Even as a governor, his wife was not always in the state as she is used to their home inn London.

Go and verify.

You people should try harder. You really have nothing on this wonderful administrator.

It's you that is lying. Peter Obi was not resident in the UK before he became governor. He was doing his business in Nigeria. He was the sole distributor of Heinz products. His office was on Aerodrome Road in Apapa. My wife's office on the same Aerodrome Road was next building to Peter Obi's office.

I just asked my wife about his residence then as she knew him and his brother (Chukwuma). She informed me that he was living in Festac.

She further informed me that he ran to London during the Ngige saga when hired assassins were after him. He escaped assassination attempts twice. She also further added that the building (which is beside Panasonic) belongs to Peter Obi.

Gohs:
Peter Obi had already bought that house in the 90s — long before he became a governor.

Let's not argue over this at all.

What was he doing that he was able to afford a house in London at the age of 34.

The only job he stated on his INEC form was Fidelity Bank, no dates or designation.

kingjiss:
Some Nigerians are very stupid and Foolish

Peter as a student owned a house where sultan of sokoto lived in enugu state ,

If as a student he owned a house,don't you think he got the house in england when he was a bank manager?

Some foolish and stupid Nigerians kill those that fight for them fast without knowing

How did Peter Obi as a student acquire a house big and luxurious enough to house the Sultan of Sokoto?

post=114400354:
Dumbo Peter was leaving in UK even before he joined Nigeria politics

What dates was he living in the UK and what was he doing there that made him so rich? Was he working for a multinational company like Tinubu did? Was he doing business in the UK? What was his immigration status in the UK?

I searched for information on his educational and employment career. The information I could gleam of the internet is very sketchy. The only dated information was that he graduated from UNN with a degree in philosophy in 1984. Any other information after that was not dated. He was said to have numerous other schools in the US, UK and Switzerland, but the dates and qualifications obtained were never stated. The year he served (NYSC) were never stated.
How he made his money we were never told, we were only informed that he became chairman of Fidelity Bank in early 2000s.

There are too many holes in Peter Obi's background, particularly in his employment/business background. You guys need to fill them to expect Nigerians to support him.