₦airaland Forum

Ezmans:
before terrorist start blood shed in kwara whom did they hail & praise?

You people are quick to mention Kwara without the honesty to admit Kwaran are dealing with Fulani bandit marauders and not a situation of wanton murder of Kwarans by Kwarans as is the case with you lot.

I.e the aberrant situation in the SE where it is Igbos, claiming to be fighting to protect their fellow Igbos from Fulani marauders, now killing, imprisoning and subjugating their fellow Igbos.

Hypocrites always point one finger at others and four points back towards them.

Racoon:
The only confidence this criminal got is simply because a government being ran by criminals is in place in this nation today.

You never disappoint. So, according to you, charity no longer begins at home?

SE leaders, to include Obi who claimed IPOB are good people he "lives with", have no responsibility for the insanity going on in the SE to the extent you can shamelessly ignore them to be talking of a "government being ran by criminals"?

Who are the biggest criminals other than your cowardly, unprincipled and callous SE Governors and legislators all silent and hiding in the face of this hijacking of their powers by illiterate cultist criminal and killers as young as 13?

Make your bed and lay in it. Do not ask Tinubu to come and lay in a bed you made for yourselves that your leaders, like Obi, watched you do to be encouraging you by commission or omission plus their actions and inactions.

Deal with the wahala you caused for yourselves. In case you have not noticed, Nigerian resources are too thin and too sparsely available to be deployed exclusively for those who fail to do the right thing and are self-destructively regressing themselves.

They should deploy more policing and military might to the SE, at the expense of the SW and SS etal, while you, your fellow ordinary Igbos and leaders, like Obi, fail to condemn this braggart thug yet insist Tinubu and the FG is to blame for your self-inflcted woes?

Zaphnath1:
Lagos Lagos Lagos
This are things Lagos should be going for the more, the only news shouldn't be only people jumping into the lagoon, at least let's have better news from it

There is always "better news" coming from Lagos but of what use is that for someone determined never to see those "better news" let alone acknowledge them?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/idris-elba-hails-lagos-as-most-amazing-city/%3famp

Mexyz:
Senator Ndume is saying this because the person affected is a Northerner.

Even if that is the case, Dangote Refinery is a national asset we should not allow cabalistic forces to blackmail or harm.

Even for reasons of self-preservation, as progressive people can alway prioritise, we should back Ndume's call here regardless of his motivation.

PENGASSAN, NUPENG etal, though claiming noble Roles, are actually congregation grounds of mercenaries and enemies of Nigeria working for private profit and available for sale to the highest bidder to include political forces determined to create suffering for Nigerians to discredit the government of the day.

This isn't about Ndume or his motivation. It is about the right call he makes.

IronGalaxy:
The funny thing is when us South Africans are tired of the very same thing, you guys call it "xenophobia".. the standards are double

Not true. Most decent and upright Nigerians urge you to deal with criminal Nigerians properly. Jail them with maximum lengthy sentences, to deter others, and do what you must.

We back you fully to do that as it is your Country you must do the needful to protect. What most Nigerians have always condemned is crude and blanket xenophobic attacks which you cannot deny SA was guilty of. Although not so much today.

The only Nigerians who will complain if your police and investigative forces crack down robustly on Nigerian criminals are the Nigerians who are the subject of this thread.

ogolemati:
people that their oba is in prison are talking

Lol. Continue with the whataboutism. Glad most foreigners , From Ghana to Thailand", can now tell Nigerians are 'different'.

donleo92:
I still wonder why tribe still believe in this drug peddling.

It doesn't pay.....

Rather you are on constant free and threat

It all stems from the value system in ala Igbo where it is criminal to not be a "money na water" bonafide braggart.

You are not loved unconditionally there, not even by parents, but according to the wealth you have and can share. No matter how you gained it.

Meaning a lot of parents and families even codedly nudge their young men and women towards crimes that can bring quick mansion-building wealth.

Confirmation of the above comes from how the average person from the region talks on this forum.

They all brag based on wealth they claim to possess, simply to demean others, because that is what they have been brought up to believe, i.e richer is better, in their society where shallow materialism and greed is encouraged while morality and virtues are disregarded.

Criticise Obi and the first thing that comes out of their mouth is "he has more money than ten generations of your family combined" or "he can buy your entire Village". Abeg, when has wealth ever being the only measure of a man as they alone assume?

Good luck to them because they need it since the problem is fundamental yet they cannot appreciate that.

DomPerignon:
At this rate of at least 2 being arrested everyday in India , its safe to say majority of them in India are into drug dealing .

What else will take someone to India outside cheap medical surgery ?

I will say it now that every single one of them in India is into drug peddling.

Shameful.

What confirms it will be an unending problem for them is how every single one of them, on NL for example, is always unrepentant and would rather call others name than face what is now a dangerous epidemic destroying their youths , families and communities.

Nice Thread. This is why Lagos is the best City/State in West Africa. It is now hosting the truly special events, like how Monaco is synonymous with Formula 1 racing, that marks out great cities of Africa and the world.

For example, little known by many is how Lagos is now becoming an ever-improving global art hub. So much potentials for travel, tourism and hospitality.

The 12,000 capacity Lagos Arena, under construction in the State, is going to be the icing on the cake. Hosting global concerts and even big fight night boxing and UFC events. lagos on the move.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uf0a26ocC8?si=ZG28zajltxkUBKiz

It would not be so bad if those always involved in shaming us globally are not the very same people always calling our President "Escobar" or "Drug lord" etc.

As if we do not know the people who literally have at least one "Escobar" in every family of the ethnic group.

Lionnation:
let know who gave her money to the tune of 20bilion currupt people, supporters of evil

The national library, meant to be Africa's biggest national library, was abandoned since 2006 under 4 President till now, and now at risk of collapsing structurally, is what President Tinubu, assisted by his wife, has taken on the burden finishing with a completion date of 2027.

A project supposed to be our national pride and glory was abandoned by corruptions that prefers buying SUVs for literally millions of dollars for politician and and their minions.

Yet you ignorantly use the word corrupt for a noble project our first lady, through her private fund-raising effort, and her husband's tenacity have committed to finish, almost 20 years after other Government abandoned the project, at no personal profit to either other than the need assist the completion of an iconic edifice that will encourage and stimulate intellectual pursuit in our nation.and be a reference point in Africa even.

You people should confess what is really driving you because all this talk of "corrupt" alone when good and transformational things happen for Nigeria only highlights the fact you are all enemies of progress who do not want Nigeria's progress.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls0f2Q6vYw?si=EIArR-RLnm0tTc0K

https://guardian.ng/opinion/abandoned-national-library-building-abuja-may-collapse/

Yet, as at October 26, 2023, the National Library building lies very fallow, very abandoned and is an eyesore on the Abuja skyline. Libraries are essential in promoting literacy, fostering a love for reading, providing access to information, supporting literacy and ICT skills, providing community space, preserving culture and heritage, and contributing towards the advancement of development priorities.

One of the reasons libraries are not accorded much attention in Nigeria is failure of ‘intellectualism’. ‘I wonder why our parliament is buying cars worth $160,000.00 for each member when that library is the way it is.

givedemwotowoto:
If the funds are coming from the government don’t try to deceive Nigerians. Trust on politicians holding public office (or whose spouses are holding public office) is justifiably very low, so she should publish the list of donors.

How are the funds coming from Government? Drop the mischief bro. She implored those who wanted to give her gifts for her birthday to donate towards her national library funds instead.

Meaning whatever they wished to give her personally for her birthday should come in form of donation towards the refurbishment and updating of the national library. How is that "Government money"?

destinychildolu:
Remi go dey laugh you. Na governors, ministers, local government chairmen, senators, reps and state assembly members donate. Some governors gave as much as 50million naira. I heard a powerful minister donated 100m

Lol. You people just confirm the mentality of the average Nigerian is warped even if they don't appreciate that.

Even if "powerful ministers" etal are the donors, is it not beneficial they donate towards a nationally worthy cause than when many dash their side chicks far more than 100 million for frivolous spending like shopping trip to London and Paris?

Baxilexi:
Why this is a debate is bemusing…

Campaign funds are investigated in the US, even as private donations.
Trump was gifted a 400m USD plane by Qatar, it was investigated.
So what’s the evil if we adopt a culture of total transparency irrespective of the subject?
Every meeting Trump has, the media provides full coverage, no cuts, no edits.

Why do we love secrecy in the public sector?

Can you listen to yourself? How can campaign funds, given such can sway elections, be compared to donations towards the refurbishment of a public library? Seriously?

Can some of you think before you let your bias and prejudice control the post you deliver here? Any Nairalnder can crowd-fund towards the renovation of our national library for God sake. Stop this ridiculous cho cho cho abeg.

Putindbutt:
The donation Obidients collected for Gbajue on his birthday to which una take cook jollof rice una publish am?, hypocrites. The first lady is not even in charge of the account, the ministry of finance is in charge.

Don't mind them. Oluremi Tinubu is a very kind and noble woman. She used her own birthday as a benevolent sacrifice to raise money for the full and modern refurbishment of our national library.

The money she raised was transparently announced and she will hand over the entire amount to those in charge of doing the needful to raise our national library to status worthy of the biggest black Nation on Earth.

Her job is done. This who pretend to care about Nigeria, when we know they don't, should tackle those with the task of utilising the money, from this point on, instead of focusing on our first Lady in hope that discrediting her also discredits her husband to Obi's political profit.

AMINDA:
Well, we may not have the full list but I can assure you that Late President Muhammadu Buhari donated generously to the akant.

Justify, with facts, what you need the full list of donors for when Oluremi Tinubu's contribution is her own private intervention towards a Noble national cause.

If I crowd-fund towards this project , same as our first lady did privately, would you dare start public mischief-making seeking to make me reveal those who donated towards the sum I submit towards the rehabilitation of our national library while you and your political heroes have done nothing at all towards ensuring the fitting preservation of what should be a source of national pride to Nigeria?

You guys are something else.

givedemwotowoto:
They’re going to rename the library to her name, that’s where this is going (according to word on the streets). Meanwhile the assumption out there is that some government agency (the CBN? NNPC? FIRS?) probably donated over 90% of that money.

So what if that happens? Where is the effort of the political leaders you support to secure the fitting renovation and re-emergence of this national project for anyone to consider making them the patron of our national library ahead of Oluremi Tinubu?

All intelligent and progressive Nigerians will agree that a meritorious argument can be made for naming the renovated and renewed national Library after our first Lady because she made personal sacrificed to raise by far the biggest amount to assist the completion of work on our national library.

Contrast her involvement with the disinterest in the project from your heroes, in Atiku and Obi etal, who remain too focused on their selfish political ambitions to give a toss about this Nigerian edifice and it's preservation as a fitting national asset.

Ofunaofu:
What a request? Exactly, a perfectly reasonable one. When public figures raise ₦20.4 billion for a national project, Nigerians have every right to ask who donated. This isn't a private birthday gift it's tied to public infrastructure and national development.

We're not asking for names to gossip we're asking for transparency. You think everything must stay hidden, and that's why corruption thrives. If there’s nothing to hide, then there should be nothing to fear. Simple

Stop lying because you believe your fellow Nairalanders are dullards you can deceive with half-truths they won't fact check.

Remi Tinubu's effort is her own private and allowed initiative to donate towards the completion of a public entity.

This means all that she benevolently raises, and makes available to those officially appointed to renovate and equip the national library, should be treated as her own private donation not subject to public scrutiny .

Same as if me, you or any other Nigerian organise a fund raiser for the purpose of donating towards a worthy national cause.

We know you are desperate to see an Igbo Presidency but learn to play opposition politics intelligently and progressively otherwise, as is the case here, it will always be obvious you do not have any interest in praising or supporting those who are moving dedicatedly to aid the growth and development of Nigeria.

Your ignorant talk and attempt at deception only make it clear you solely remain interested in demarketing all those you view as an impediment to Igbo Presidency even when, without dispute, they are making developmental effort all progressive and balanced Nigerians should commend.

See below to note her intervention/fundraising is "private" and stop the mischief. This constant attempt of some of you at deceiving ordinary Nigerians and whipping up negative sentiments in them, against the current government and those affiliated with it, is low and condemnable.

gidgiddy:
Unity begger only like coming up with every reason to stay together because the are gaining from the rot Nigeria has become

Who are the unity beggars other than those who shout Biafra daily yet the insincerity and hollowness of their noise is proven by how they keep migrating from their region, in thousands daily, to go and live permanently with the very same people they say are "demons" they need to be away from?

The hypocrisy of your ways and conduct, that starkly contradicts your insincere utterance, shows who the real "unity beggars' are even if you continue to delusionally believe others are buying your deceitful and hypocritical Biafra noise.

lawani:
Join the struggle. Do your bit. Both Yoruba and Igbo will do more for humanity as sovereign countries. What is Nigeria that is difficult to break up? Is it a super power?

Can you listen to yourself? You know too well that only constitutional amendment can facilitate the inclusion of a secession clause in our constitution.

Yet you are asking ordinary Nigerians to "join the struggle" for an exercise in futility when you Igbos have not demanded same of your legislators who have the power and authority to agitate for the constitutional amendment that can deliver Biafra.

When, as confirmation of the insincerity and duplicity of Igbos, have we ever seen Igbo take a stand to insist they will recall Reps and Senators who cannot move and support a bill for the inclusion of a secession clause in our constitution?

Instead you people focus on gaslighting others while you free your leaders, with the official power to lead the realisation of Biafra, of responsibility or blame.

We know you lot and what drives/motivates you. Save the gaslighting for Nigerians who are totally illiterate or too emotional, despite being educated, to see what is obvious.

lawani:
He is correct that dividing the country is better. After division there will still be Igbos in the west and Yorubas in the East but competition will be more healthy and there will be no prospects of marginalization
Dividing the country can solve a lot of problem

Who is going to divide the Country for him and his fellow insincere co-travellers when secession is forbidden, and an act of treason, according to the Nigerian constitution with that situation only able to altered by constitutional amendment?

Yet Igbo legislators, who can move the motion for a change in our constitution to facilitate a secession clause, to show the Biafra agitation of Igbos is same as their own, refuse to do so and keep enjoying the salaries and remuneration being a Nigerian legislator delivers.

Are you not ashamed to speak in support of Igbos like Gidgiddy gaslighting Yorubas and others with their historical "they won't let us go" noise when it is obvious their legislative and political leader are the one's most guilty of not lifting a finger to aid their insincere Biafra agitation?

Is it just about lying to the world "they won't let us go" to gaslight Yorubas, who don't care whether Igbos leave or stay, whereas the world can see Igbo leaders, elite, business folks, industrialists and successful folks, like Cubana Chief Priest and Jowizaza etal, are not at all interested in Biafra?

lawani:
It is a Catholic church and Igbos are mainly Catholic. If you bomb RCCG in Enugu many of the dead will be Yoruba
Most Catholic churches in the SW have a high number of Igbo members
Owo can't be more than 500k people and Igbos in the city may not be up to 20k but unless there is a census you can't be sure
I was in Ife for a long time and I know that most Igbos attend the catholic church there

Go and sit down abeg. Catholic Church wataboutism explains how most Igbo names mentioned as victims were confirmed to be living in Ondo?


People living and working in Yoruba land, with their family and children born there, you now want to pass off as attendees of a catholic church in Owo.

Did they board a bus from the SE to attend the church in Owo that unfortunateday, as we are to believe no Catholic Church exist in ala Igbo, or was it that they merely attended the Catholic church closest to them where they live in Ondo State?


For people meant to only be in Lagos, was that not a large number of them in one place in Yorubaland, outside Lagos?

Some of you are so patently dishonest and incapable of been upright yet you expect same from leaders.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-61830085.amp

Mr Okafor and his son died of bullet wounds sustained from the attack.

He used himself as a shield to try and protect his son but the powerful bullets tore through him.

Responders found their lifeless bodies, with him still lying over his son, in the aftermath of the attack.

Mr Okafor owned a shop in Owo that sold electronics and had been diagnosed with malaria a day before his death, said his brother Cletus Okafor.

Mr and Mrs Onuoha were sitting beside each other in church when the attack happened.

Neighbours and friends remember Mrs Onuoha, a petty trader, as always being willing to help.

Her husband was a gardener at a university.

ElSudani:
Another blatant lie. There are Ibos everywhere in Yorubaland, even in villages deep in Yorubaland. I wonder whom these bare faced lies are meant for.
As for seaport and airport, you dont need to live in Lagos to import anything or fly in or out of Nigeria.

In answer to your question, the lies are meant for those who do no understand we live in an information age where lies can be debunked in one minute and facts can be established in even seconds.

ChatGPT


Are igbos present in large numbers in yoruba states aside lagos


ChatGPT said:
Yes, the Igbo people are present in significant numbers in some Yoruba states besides Lagos, though not usually as large as in Lagos, which is a major commercial hub attracting Nigerians from all ethnic backgrounds.

Yoruba States with Noticeable Igbo Populations (besides Lagos):
Ogun State (e.g., Abeokuta, Ifo, Sango-Ota, Ijebu-Ode)

Many Igbos live here due to proximity to Lagos and presence of industrial and trading opportunities, especially in Sango-Ota, a major industrial town.

Oyo State (especially Ibadan)

Ibadan, the state capital, is a large city with a good number of Igbos involved in trade, real estate, and white-collar jobs.

The presence of tertiary institutions and businesses makes it attractive to migrants.

Osun State (e.g., Osogbo, Ile-Ife, Ilesa)

Smaller Igbo communities can be found in urban centers. They are mostly engaged in commerce and skilled trades.

Ondo and Ekiti States

These states have relatively smaller Igbo populations, usually concentrated in state capitals like Akure and Ado-Ekiti, respectively.

Igbo residents here are often traders, civil servants, or artisans.

Why Are They Present?
Commerce and Trade: Igbos are well-known for entrepreneurial activity and often migrate to urban centers to set up businesses.

Education and Employment: Universities, colleges, and job opportunities in Yoruba states attract Igbo professionals and students.

Urbanization and Proximity to Lagos: States close to Lagos (like Ogun and Oyo) naturally absorb the spillover of population and business activity.

Summary:
While Lagos has the largest Igbo population among Yoruba states, other states like Ogun, Oyo, and Osun also host sizable (though comparatively smaller) Igbo communities. Their presence is most pronounced in urban and commercial areas.

ElSudani:
Another blatant lie. There are Ibos everywhere in Yorubaland, even in villages deep in Yorubaland. I wonder whom these bare faced lies are meant for.

That's why I did not bother responding to him when he quoted me.

When you have large presence of Igbos in main cities of Yoruba land , like Ibadan, Abeokuta, Ijebu Ode, Sagamu, Ikorodu etal, you realize it is pointless responding to a people who are too unreasonable to respect face and reality in any discussion.

May the souls of those who died in the Church attack in Owo, Ondo state, continue to rest in peace yet I use that sad event to illustrate how these people lie without shame nor dignity.

Below is names of the victims of the appalling tragedy. For a people who love to claim they only go to Lagos, to skew the narrative and abet the deception they wish to get away with, observe the large number of Igbo names.

I remember, on this same Nairaland, how they even rushed prematurely to celebrate the deaths desperate to shade Yorubas that terrorism is overwhelming our lands as we are "cowards" who do not have IPOB-like protection. Yet when names of victim were made public they fell silent.

When a people are so naturally dishonest, to the extent of koro koro denial of factual reality, you begin to understand they are something else.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c9rgqv53p1po.amp

BATified2023:
u people are just talking rubbish, yorubas are tribalist but every tribe can b found in their region living peacefully but ibos that are not tribalist can't even contain themselves in their own region let alone allow visitors in?

The joke is in u

They are the only people in the world, confirming their unreasonable nature as human beings, that facts and realities do not matter to at all let alone feature in their reasoning.

Parydelegate:
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If you believe Uncle Otedola hands are clean LIKE this post

It is not a case of believing or not believing Otedola. This is about educated and objective people using established facts to logically discern the veracity of Otedola's claim.

Did he lie that he only imported diesel subsidy had been removed from ages ago?

Did he lie that PMS, he did not engage in importing, was the only refined derivative of crude being subsidized under Jonathan?


Of what use is education if we cannot use it to think progressively and productively?

Clarifying his role, Mr Otedola said his company, Zenon Petroleum and Gas Limited, never traded in Premium Motor Spirit (PMS), the only product eligible for subsidy claims, but was a major diesel importer.

He said diesel was deregulated long before the Petroleum Subsidy Fund (PSF) scheme began, making any claim by Zenon under the scheme impossible.

Saturnalia:
You do not know these people well enough. They will accuse anybody or any tribe of whatever they are guilty of.

In their minds, they are emulating the propaganda tactics of Joseph Goebbels, not knowing that this is 2025 where everybody and every Nation have access to every historical books and events on the Planet.

Was Sir Ahmadu Bello’s perspective and statements about them wrong? Never!

God bless you. We have countless examples of events in history, and even current facts and realities on the ground, to confirm who the most shamelessly tribalistic Nigerians are and how, proven beyond doubt, the Yorubas they accuse of tribalism are actually some of the most Liberal, most tolerant and most accomodating Nigerians from time immemorial.

I have challenged them to fall in and prove their claim if they can and we will effortlessly provide proof that that will show objective Nigerians and even Africans, on NL, the truth.

Those who have not read it, should take time to note what FFK presented a while back via the link below because educated progressive and solutions-driven men don't stay in the same place saying the same thing for years when they know undisputed facts can bring clarity and final resolution to a dispute once and for all.

It is only one ethnic group, out of the more than 400 in Nigeria, who keep relying on lame accusation alone, in the attempt to deceive others, because they are aware they can never produce factual proof to support their allegations of tribalism against Yorubas.

whereas we can deliver literally hundreds of fact-based evidence that confirm they are the most tribalistic Nigerians ever and from time immemorial.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/105036-how-the-igbo-introduced-tribalism-to-nigerian-politics-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

cr7lomo:
Is lagos not different?? Saying igbo man won lagos is u trying to be cunning.... Lagos is composed of many tribes.... Atiku won oyo cos its a PDP state....

Are you educated at all? His broader point, showing healthy tolerance and predisposition towards empowering others, is that Yorubas voting pattern statistically confirm they do not cast near 100% votes for their own. He also ascertained that Northerners too do not do so.

Only Igbos do. Yet they are the one who will always and unrelentingly accuse others of tribalism that is an illogical claim because such is contrary to what facts and realities on ground reveal.

You people are simply not truthful or upright.

Brenbentondiaz:
Yeah, they are. According to the "smartest" tribe in Africa:
Yoruba man won 4 out of 6 Yoruba States with an average 56% votes (Igboman won 1, Northerner won the other).

Northern man won some states in the North (other candidates won in the north also).

Igbo man won ALL of the states in igboland with an average 80% plus.

Conclusion of deveropers: Yorubas are the most tribalistic.
It takes a sick mind to come to this kind of conclusion seeing the facts on ground (the kind of sick mind that will believe that Jibrin nonsense). Lolz.

God bless you. This is the main point I made in response to same character. Educated men , who are balanced, objective and willing to submit themselves to empirical facts and reality, don't need to 'go around the houses' redundantly for ages because only insincere, dishonest and deceitful people do that.

We should simply put the matter to the test using observations of reality on ground, like the bolded in your post, that objective people will agree are accurate proof of who the biggest tribalists in Nigeria are and those who are truly and exemplarily tolerant, accommodating and decent human being.

No need for accusations alone without presentation of evidence because only liars and deceitful people do not.

Let's prove it here and now with facts and realities on the ground.