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Politics › Re: Lagos Is Renaming Street With Igbo Names To Yoruba by WizardOfNG: 7:58am On Jul 17, 2025
helinues:
Recirculating old news to achieve what?

undecided
Attention-seeking and playing to the Gallery.
Politics › Re: Lagos Is Renaming Street With Igbo Names To Yoruba by WizardOfNG: 6:30am On Jul 17, 2025
DenreleDave:
Please no tribalistic comment here.

Insulting ourselves will not solve this.
Solve what precisely? A "problem" that only exists in your head?
Politics › Re: “It May End Your Political Career” – ADC Sends Strong Warning To Peter Obi by WizardOfNG: 9:00pm On Jul 16, 2025
AMINDA:
The best time for Peter Obi to leave the coalition was yesterday. The second best time is now. He won't be missed. Not in the slightest.
See how wonderful God is exposing the enemies of Nigeria's progress and making them confess their sins willingly and publicly?

If Obi is casually dispensable to you and others, like cannon fodder, does this not show you never backed him because you believed him best to be President and instead were simply motivated the most by what/who you feel will facilitate the removal of the "Yoruba President"?

Have you now not exposed, beyond doubt, that your sort are engaged in politics of hatred, as core motivation, than interest in what is best for the progress, growth and development of Nigeria?
Politics › Re: A Rejoinder to 'Atku Abubakar Is Not a Leader' by WizardOfNG: 8:47pm On Jul 16, 2025
@OP.

Can you defend/explain Atiku's preference for living in Dubai away from Nigeria, the nation he wants to lead, and isolated from Nigerians he claims he wants the best for?

Which Nigerian, who wanted to be or became President, has done that in our history? I.e sojourn abroad and then show up every election year to demand the Presidency?Awolowo, Azikiwe, Buhari, OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ or Tinubu? Just name one.

Shall I list the number of times Nigeria has been extremely challenged and Atiku was missing, silent of simply non-commital, as in the case of Deborah, because doing what is right may come at a political cost to him.

He builds no Political Party and never endures with any. Preferring to go from one Party to another like a desperate opportunist only interested in his own personal ambition.

When In Parties, he never involves himself in internal processes that strengthens and improves the political efficacy of those Political Parties as real leaders would do.

His lifelong engagement with politics, political leaders and political Parties is always one-sided with Atiku looking to profit while giving nothing back to the other side.

This distinctly shows, anathema to what leaders do, Atiku seeks parasitic engagement with others and never mutually productive/beneficial relationships.

There are literally a thousand facts and reality that show Atiku is never a leader. I don't like to claim Nairalanders are paid to post because all are entitled to their opinion.

Yet your post brings that to mind because it is akin to claiming night is day. Such a departure from proven and established facts/reality is very abnormal and suspicious.
Politics › Re: Adeleke In Panic Mode Since APC Rejected Him, He Won't Get 2nd Term - Aregbesola by WizardOfNG: 3:38pm On Jul 16, 2025
SmartPolician:
No Nigerian party in the opposition can reject a sitting governor in Nigeria! It's a privilege for a party in opposition for a governor to want to join them.
Not when Adeleke has been abysmally poor to the extent his entire fellow PDP Senators, sensing he is a goner, have pledged allegiance to Tinubu for "continuity" of good work beyond 2027.

Adeleke is a lame dame Governor who does not have the people behind him nor the political movers and shakers in the State to include even his own PDP colleagues in and out of office.

https://guardian.ng/politics/osun-pdp-senators-break-ranks-back-tinubu-for-reelection/

Politics › Re: Marketers Protest As Dangote Moves To Crash Cooking Gas Price by WizardOfNG: 8:46am On Jul 16, 2025
parags:
These guys are crazy! In as much as I dont like some of Dangote's tendencies I cannot overlook the unusual greed we have in nigeria and the pockets of cabals in different sectors . If we can buy it cheaper why are the marketers not selling cheaper ? They form cabals and call themselves "marketers" ! Feeding large and crying crocodile tears when a bigger monopoly wants to spoil their greed.
Precisely. The bolded encapsulates the big picture more or less. The so-called marketers want the retention of the condition that make it easy for them to blackmail and extort Nigerians.

Whereas those who mean well for Nigeria will understand it is a free market economy we must embrace as an overarching approach to solving most problems facing Nigeria because nationally-backed subsidies are a thing of the past in most developed nations of the world.

It is same with full deregulation of te Nigerian power sector. Serious States can partner with competent private sector companies to gain constant power which will improve socio-economic fortune of the States who take advantage of the deregulated power sector.

Of course end users must pay more for power so that the private sector partner ,who most likely invested majority of the finance and carried out the technical work, claw back their capital and gain ROI i.e return on Investment.

The caveat remaining that States who cannot engage in that manner, or do not wish to, can stay in darkness and stagnation. As simple as that.

This is the time to get rid of all subsidy-reliant vestiges of redundant and indolent communism , we practiced for decades, to embrace a free market economy that will drive healthy competition, greater investment in research and innovation, better local solutions provision, socio-economic growth, sustainable development, greater manufacturing etc, etc.

Nigeria and Nigerians will get richer and happier that way with many lifted out of generational poverty permanently .
Politics › Re: Marketers Protest As Dangote Moves To Crash Cooking Gas Price by WizardOfNG: 8:27am On Jul 16, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Well, see another screenshot below. Despite this they still managed to convince people Bill Gates is the devil and in philanthropy to make money! cheesy
Same thing could happen to Dangote - that's what I mean
You don't get the key consideration here. Dangote is no philanthropist. He is a businessman who wants to make money by undercutting others in the market price-wise.

If others too then respond by slashing prices, who win? The buyers i.e Nigerians. That is what free market economies do. Stimulate healthy competition, innovation and constant availability of goods and services.

Since removal of subsidy, with the local Dangote refinery now functional, when have you experienced fuel scarcity that used to be the norm in the past when Marketers world hoard fuel and engage in cartel blackmail of Nigeria?

When BUA refinery and others come on-board soon, it will be game over for marketers and that would be fantastic for Nigerians for many reasons.
Politics › Re: How Many World Leaders Have Sent Their Condolences ? by WizardOfNG: 7:20am On Jul 16, 2025
Softmirror:
They have started playing with the psychology of their people again . 😴
Lol. My thoughts too. They are predictably self-destructive and self-deluding. All they know to do is exploit each others vulnerabilities. Odumeje-style.

The narrative they now want to sell, over Buhari's death, is Kanu was right and Igbos were right.
Politics › Re: What Buhari Told Me About Tinubu After Fuel Subsidy Removal – Katsina Governor by WizardOfNG: 6:32am On Jul 16, 2025
tutudesz:
Honestly Tinubu is a brave man for removing it immediately, I wish he will take suçh decisions on security and corruption too regardless of political opinions.
He will Sir. One step at a time. Rome was not built in a day and PBAT has done a hell of a lot in two years.
Politics › Re: Marketers Protest As Dangote Moves To Crash Cooking Gas Price by WizardOfNG:
FreeIgboho:
Dangote better be careful. This is the kind of thing that has Bill Gates in trouble in certain quarters - crashing people's means of livelihood by donating it for free!
Bro, do you even understand what full deregulation of the downstream sector is meant to achieve? I.e completely free market competitiveness that benefits the masses?

Like someone said earlier, God bless Dangote. He is "doing the lord's work".

Better, for a nation with many in crippling poverty, to host a benevolent monopolist than a large cartel of price-fixing sharks determined to extort Nigerians to death because of inhuman greed.

If some of you pay attention, you'd have noted that Tinubu has always said he believes in a free market democracy meaning he will support those who help him to deliver that. You are seeing the results now where the people win.

Tinubu is a genius and the likes of Dangote etal will be his enforcers who will vanquish cartel and cabal-driven greed and extortion because the logic is simple. I.e if you can meet demand at a lower price than I can, then the market is yours to dominate.

Such is never "donating it for free". It is healthy competition that tends to force suppliers to give the masses the best as obtains in the most developed nations of the world.

AI Overview

A free market democracy, also sometimes called market democracy, combines a free market economic system with a democratic political system. In this model, the economy is largely driven by supply and demand, with minimal government intervention, while political power rests with the citizens through elections and representation. This means individuals have the freedom to own property, start businesses, and exchange goods and services, and citizens can participate in the political process to shape their society.
Politics › Re: "Only his 12m votes made Him President": Onanuga Deletes Post by WizardOfNG: 9:13pm On Jul 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
Why did he delete it then
He has been reprimanded because of Nigeria's obsession, from leaders to followers, with playing politics at the expense of truthful deliberation on issues.

A lot of wholesale lies being sponsored by Northern born-to-rule supremacists and hegemonistic elements, even using 'hungry' Southern hirelings, to discredit Tinubu, the Yorubas and the SW in the eyes of Nigerians in the hope such tactics will see Atiku in Aso Rock via the backdoor in 2027.

It will not happen. Onanuga did not lie neither was his reminder to some dishonorable ingrates from the North, not the majority I must clarify, out of context.

The only mistake Onanuga made was to react as if he is an ordinary Nigeria whereas he should have been circumspect enough to delegate the 'reminder to others under his spin-doctoring office.His message is right and I back it. Next time he should give other the mic to voice it.

Same as ADC , essentially Atiku and his hegemonistic Northern supremacist, are using mouthpieces like Lauretta Onochie etal for their dishonestly revisionist noise all in a desperate attempt to control and skew the narrative.
Politics › Re: Mayor Of London, Sadiq Khan Is In Lagos (Photo) by WizardOfNG: 8:15pm On Jul 15, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
We that live here are telling u something
You dey dey yarn Okpata
Don't mind the joker. They never know how to stay in their lane. Ask him his connection with the UK and you will find he probably has never set foot in the UK let alone London.
Politics › Re: "Only his 12m votes made Him President": Onanuga Deletes Post by WizardOfNG: 7:51pm On Jul 15, 2025
Nigerians and their sanctimonious hypocrisy. What is wrong with what Onanuga announced in the face of so much attack against Tinubu, the Yorubas and the SW by former employees of Buhari now revising history shamelessly to say SW votes played no part in Buhari becoming President?

That uncouthly verbose Lauretta Onochie even said Tinubu did not support Buhari to win. Can anyone imagine the depth of wickedness some Nigerian political jobbers will stoop to because they now no longer have 'food'?

Buhari has never won a single State in the SW in three attempts to be President until Tinubu , with his considerable ACN might, was in his corner in 2015 when he won all SW States bar PDP-led Ekiti that Fayose delivered to GEJ as a 'thank you' for his return as Governor.



I back Onanuga's announcement 100%. Upright and honorable people don't deny the truth and they don't lie as all these failures under Buhari are now doing.

They are a very dangerous and evil set of Vampires merely looking to victimise the "Yoruba President" , his Yoruba people and SW as enemies of Buhari and the North.

Yes Onanuga has to remind them of the reality because as Joseph Goebbels, the Chief propagandist of the Nazis under Hitler, proclaimed "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it"

That is what Onanuga is countering. Kudos to him for a job well-done.
Politics › Re: Mayor Of London, Sadiq Khan Is In Lagos (Photo) by WizardOfNG: 7:25pm On Jul 15, 2025
SalamRushdie:
Data doesn't lie
You guys from the SE are something else. Hateful anarchist who like no one and can never wish others well. You're always about negatives and hate with an obsession to then use propaganda to damn others you dislike.

Read below and stop talking nonsense. I have lived majority of my life in London, from early teens, and know the dynamics of crime to be able to put issues in perspective under Ken Livingstone Bo Jo and now Khan. As the fact check article indicates, "the reality is more nuanced" and most objective Londoners knows that.

You people should chill with your extremist behaviour. It is repellent.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london

Politics › Re: Photo Of Seyi Tinubu And Yusuf Buhari At Buhari's Burial by WizardOfNG: 7:13pm On Jul 15, 2025
Lionessza6:
It's a good thing he didn't even pretend to be anything other than what he is even when his father was alive and in a very powerful and influential office. He will surely enjoy all his father worked for in private and in peace. Smart guy.
Indeed. He will have many dads now because the patronage system in Nigerian politics means many politicians are now automatically the patriarchs of the Buhari family.
Politics › Re: Photo Of Seyi Tinubu And Yusuf Buhari At Buhari's Burial by WizardOfNG: 7:04pm On Jul 15, 2025
Lionessza6:
He had the capacity to do a lot ,but clearly like you said; it's not in him.
Indeed. He is not wired that way. A relatively withdrawn young man not known for doing anything.

Many sons are nothing like their fathers and that is okay because they don't have to be.
Politics › Re: Federal High Court Judgement: Senate Writes Sen. Akpoti’s Lawyer by WizardOfNG: 6:56pm On Jul 15, 2025
SenatorCharles1:
The question should rather be, have there been other cases of senators being suspended in the past? what were the actions taken by these senators? Did they challenge their suspensions in Court?
Did the Court rule in favour or against?

One of such suspension was the one against Senator Ovie Omo-Agege in 2018.
He challenged his suspension in court and won

Justice Nnamdi Dimgba of the FHC ruled that the Senate violated its own rules, which only allow a maximum suspension of 14 legislative days.

So the senate rule allow for 14 legislative days for suspension of a senator and that of Sen. Natasha should not be interpreted differently.

Again, it therefore mean that the Judiciary has power to pass judgement against the Legislative arm
Stop clutching at straws because, by your doing, you are drowning in the redundancy of your initial ignorant and emotional argument you keep obdurately defending.

If the Senate has the power to suspend and even expel an erring legislator then what is the garbage in bold in your post about?

See last paragraph in the image below. Hopefully you will defer to fact and shut up.

Politics › Re: Mayor Of London, Sadiq Khan Is In Lagos (Photo) by WizardOfNG: 6:48pm On Jul 15, 2025
SalamRushdie:
After spoiling London
How? Explain. Do you live in the UK and London precisely?
Politics › Re: Federal High Court Judgement: Senate Writes Sen. Akpoti’s Lawyer by WizardOfNG: 6:43pm On Jul 15, 2025
SenatorCharles1:
This is a pure reflection of Nigeria's failing educational system.
I challenge you to place my reply on ai verification platform and let it prove your baseless claim. You can display your findings here
The bolded is you personified. Crystal clear you did not have the requisite education and knowledge to understand that the legislative arm enjoys separation of power privileges that means it has the right to discipline erring legislators within the limits of clearly stipulated punishment.

Dont try and hide behind semantics to hold on to my humorous mocking of your use of AI.

Bottom line is that you rushed to speak ignorantly. Perhaps someone had quoted you already before you could revise your ignorant utterance.

Likely leading to you double-checking the official position of affairs to then "modify" you own ignorance with your grudging admission that the judiciary has no power over sanctions the legislative arm imposes on it's members.

Furthermore, to show you exemplify the bolded in your post, you kept arguing about "violation of rights" when you have previously admitted the Senate has the right to do what it did.

Think before you speak. Most importantly, back down when you get it wrong rather than double down in obdurate defence of your discredited talk. You end up looking worse.
Politics › Re: Federal High Court Judgement: Senate Writes Sen. Akpoti’s Lawyer by WizardOfNG: 6:31pm On Jul 15, 2025
Wallade:
How can you or any court invalidate the rules and regulations of the Senate or house of assembly?

Go and read that judgement again to refresh your mind.
I tire for these people bro. The arms of Governance, different to tiers of Governance, are the executive, legislative and judicial arm with clearly defined parameters related to separation of power between them.

How can a Court offer anything other than a non-enforceable opinion, which is the case with Lie-Tasha's situation, if Senate rules and regulations allow legislators to discipline erring Senators according to their defined sanctions for what Lie-Tasha has done?

The Court should not even have offered an opinion, to begin with, because they are overstepping their boundary.

The rules are crystal clear. See below, with focus on "examples of disciplinary actions", to note Lie-Tasha's suspension is in order and the right of the Senate disciplinary Committee to impose as sanction for her misbehaviour.

It is obvious the judicial arm of Nigeria is a total, unprofessional and compromised joke. Pathetic and a disgrace.

Politics › Re: Federal High Court Judgement: Senate Writes Sen. Akpoti’s Lawyer by WizardOfNG: 6:10pm On Jul 15, 2025
SenatorCharles1:
When did the FHC become an advisory body? This letter is mischievous. The court declared the suspension excessive and a violation of her right. What othe language do they want the court to speak?

Modified
Yes, the court lacks the jurisdiction to question the Senate rule or legislative business for which the court absolutely did not interfere but as touching fundamental rights of a citizen, the constitution takes preeminence over any Senate rule and her lordship wasted no time in stating the obvious in clear terms.


It's a very simple judgement that shouldn't pose any difficulty interpreting.

Suspending a senator for six months is over reaching and a violation of her fundamental right and that of her constituents. Senate rule or no Senate rule, the suspension is null and void and a violation of section 63 of the constitution period!!!
Lol. You quickly used AI , after misyarning, to verify your own ignorance and then modified appropriately not so?

You still don't escape appearing ignorant because the Senate has it's own disciplinary rules no court or individual can interfere with.

Lie-Tasha is a glorified olodo always running to the court because she understands how 'buyable' and compromised our judiciary is.

All your talk of "violation of her rights" just expose you as lawless as Lie-Tasha is. No Court can hijack the disciplinary rulings of the legislative arm.

Same as our legislative and executive arm, on paper, cannot tell the judiciary what to do over matters solely under it's jurisdiction. Separation of power. Simple concept you don't seem to understand.
Politics › Two Nigerians Named Among America’s Richest Immigrants In 2025 by WizardOfNG(op): 5:48am On Jul 15, 2025
https://guardian.ng/business-services/entrepreneur/two-nigerians-named-among-americas-richest-immigrants-in-2025-forbes/

Two Nigerians named among America’s Richest Immigrants in 2025 — Forbes
By : Guardian Nigeria
Date: 13 Jul 2025


Two Nigerian-born entrepreneurs, Adebayo “Bayo” Ogunlesi and Tope Awotona, have been listed among America’s richest immigrants in 2025, according to the latest ranking released by Forbes.

The list features 125 billionaires from 41 countries, representing 14 percent of all U.S.-based billionaires. Collectively, they hold 18 percent of the country’s total billionaire wealth. The ranking highlights the influence of immigrant entrepreneurs in shaping major sectors of the U.S. economy, especially technology and finance.

Ogunlesi, who is recognized for his work in private equity, ranks 77th on the list with an estimated net worth of $2.4 billion. Awotona, the founder of scheduling software company Calendly, is listed at 106th with a net worth of $1.4 billion.

South African-born Elon Musk tops the list and remains the world’s wealthiest individual, with an estimated fortune of $393.1 billion. Musk migrated to the United States via Canada and built his wealth through ventures like Tesla and SpaceX.

Africa’s representation on the list is led by South Africa with three entries: Elon Musk; Patrick Soon-Shiong ($5.6 billion, pharmaceuticals); and Rodney Sacks ($3.6 billion, energy drinks). Nigeria follows with Ogunlesi and Awotona, underscoring the country’s growing presence in global innovation and finance.

Other African-born billionaires on the list include: Haim Saban (Egypt) – $3.1 billion, television and investments; Marc Lasry (Morocco) – $1.9 billion, hedge funds and Bharat Desai (Kenya) – $1.6 billion, IT consulting.
According to Forbes, 93 percent of the immigrants on the list are self-made, and their growing number — up from 92 in 2022 to 125 in 2025 — reflects what the publication describes as the “immigrant mindset,” characterized by resilience, risk-taking, and innovation.

Top 10 Richest Immigrants in America – 2025 (Forbes)

1. Elon Musk – $393.1B2. Sergey Brin – $139.7B
3. Jensen Huang – $137.9B
4. Thomas Peterffy – $67.9B
5. Miriam Adelson & Family – $33.4B
6. Rupert Murdoch & Family – $24B
7. Peter Thiel – $21.8B
8. Jay Chaudhry – $17.9B
9. Jan Koum – $16.9B
10. John Tu – $14.1B
Politics › Re: Dangote Files Paperwork To Build Nigeria’s Biggest Seaport In Ogun, LNG Terminal by WizardOfNG: 4:01pm On Jul 14, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
Dangote is spearheading a transformative revolution in macro-level investment model from which we must draw inspiration and embrace as a positive challenge. Ibom State undoubtedly possesses immense potential; however, the administration under Udom Emmanuel was hindered by political short-sightedness, depriving the state of visionary leadership. Akan Udofia, with his proven expertise, would have been better positioned to drive progress compared to the current administration, which lacks the strategic clarity needed to steer Ibom toward its 2030 Millennium Development Goals. This stands in stark contrast to the demonstrated competence of governors like those of Enugu and Abia States, who have exhibited a far deeper grasp of developmental governance.

That said, May Dangote have long life and prosper because he deserves it. For him, young Nigerians may defocus from being crazy content creators and creators to manufacturing and R&Ds.
Well said. 👏👏
Politics › Re: Dangote Files Paperwork To Build Nigeria’s Biggest Seaport In Ogun, LNG Terminal by WizardOfNG: 2:51pm On Jul 14, 2025
SmartyPants:
1. Share the link to the story where all the governors where seeking for seaport approval let's start from there.

2. Nobody moved all the ports to the western part of the country. Dangote is a private investor that can move his project anywhere he wants. Do I need to explain this to you??

Furthermore, there is a port in Onne, Rivers State; a port in Calabar, Cross Rivers State, A port in construction in Akwa Ibom; so where did you get the idea that all the ports are in the south west?

3. It doesn't matter where you claim to be from. Facts are facts.

Are you serious at all?
They all grow up on a diet of steady brainwashing that tells them Yorubas and the SW are the beginning and end of their problems. Whatever they do not have, automatically it is the Yorubas that prevented them gaining such.

They will never look at the fact that, say what you will about them, the Yorubas are actually the most amiable, peace-loving, sophisticated, welcoming and ethno-religiously tolerant of the major ethnic groups consisting Yoruba Igbo, Hausa and Fulani.

Of course human resources matter when businesses do feasibility report on location of their premises and operation.

They are not going to tell you what their report indicates but human resources, whether they will be an asset or impediment, influence their choice of location quite considerably.
Politics › Re: Dangote Files Paperwork To Build Nigeria’s Biggest Seaport In Ogun, LNG Terminal by WizardOfNG: 2:35pm On Jul 14, 2025
seunmsg:
Make your region conducive and investment will come. Stop blaming FG for the lack of development in your region.
That is generally true but, additionally, Dangote is personally very comfortable with Yoruba people and the SW.

Those who know him will verify this. He will go anywhere the money is but he gives business location priority to the SW if such is feasible.
Politics › Re: Black Americans Praise Nigeria For Rejecting Trump Venezuela Refugees Demand by WizardOfNG: 8:21am On Jul 14, 2025
aswani:
It's a shame really, just because Peter Obí came third in an election, their bitterness is amplified.
It really is. Opposition to something or someone, in relation to politics, should be logical and based on sound ideology. Never the case for Obidients.
Politics › Re: Black Americans Praise Nigeria For Rejecting Trump Venezuela Refugees Demand by WizardOfNG: 7:02am On Jul 14, 2025
ResidentSnitch:
Is it Tinumbu?
He will accept the Venezuelans. He will reject openly but clandestinely bring them in. Before long, you will start seeing some strange faces that the government will tag as " expatriates ".
Cry all you wan't. Yusuf Tuggur has stated the position of Nigeria that Tinubu would have ratified as his position also.

You lot, hateful antics and all, are very predictable and that is why others get the better of you politically always.
Politics › Re: When I See Nigerians Mourning Buhari I Am Disappointed by WizardOfNG: 6:47am On Jul 14, 2025
indemnityy:
The Man with his wicked policies and maladministration made me lost my job in 2016. He'll face the judgement.

That's all I've to say for now.
Many have reasons to despise Buhari personally. Yet, best to make no comment on his day of passing if in that category.

let other adults do as they please. That is mindfulness.
Politics › Re: When I See Nigerians Mourning Buhari I Am Disappointed by WizardOfNG: 6:31am On Jul 14, 2025
PaNnamdi:
What is there to mourn about him,a man that opened up our borders and all sorts of mad people in name of bandits invaded Nigeria and gained upper hand in killing natives?paid deaf attention to cries of innocent Nigerians and even went as far as ordering a vigilantes to disarm meanwhile bandits run wild?


I see nothing good in this kind of man,let him now go and explain to God his deeds.
This is classless/immature from you. Unreasonable trying to tell other adults how to feel over the death of a prominent person.

Even if that person offended them and they chose to mourn him after his passing then that is their prerogative.

Other adults are not your kids and you must stop seeing everything from your perspective alone.

Rather, learn to respect boundaries and stay silent at times like this

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