₦airaland Forum

You're very wrong. There are people with means and living dream lives who frequently visit Nairaland. They do not comment much due to insult and lack of civility. You try to input your view and some people will rain insults on you. I just got called names by one who is trying to get a visa to UEA.lol

finallybusy:
Congratulations, my guy. Now we'll see you less on Nairaland. This place is for unemployed, unexposed children who live in slums.

You better let the guy be. He will start calling you names now cos you dear disagree with him.

grandstar:
Brazil isn't better than every African country.

Yes, it may be more "advanced" but better is quite stretching it. The only country on the South American mainland that is close to that should be Chile.

Your fact is very deniable.The huge income disparity is shocking with Favelas everywhere. Crime and drugs are huge problems and usually where such thrive amongst youth, it's an indication they've lost faith in their future.

Chile on the other hand is more prosperous, has a higher standard of living and its on its way to becoming an advanced rich nation probably in 20years. Sadly, it's turning leftist and that may stifle growth.

Thanks for your advice. Time to ignore the gentleman. Appreciate it.

yewit37486:
That guy is a very uncouth frustrated human being. People like that are best ignored.

I agreed with you. For the fact a country can travel to another country visa free or visa on arrival does not make such a country better than a country that does not. Mexicans can travel to most countries visa free or visa on arrival even Canada and most European countries but same Mexicans are climbing fence to come pick tomatoes in farms across US.
While traveling is awesome and an eye opener but it does not worth risking your life for. For very store-away that live to tell his stories, hundreds ain't fortunate enough to be alive to recant their ordeal.
I will always encourage people to travel but not at the risk to your lives no life no get duplicate ooo

grandstar:
Frankly speaking, I think Gerrard59 is too biased towards Brazil.

Brazil is stuck in the Middle Income trap. For it to become an advanced nation, it needs to implement a number of reforms such as make its labour force more flexible, reduce endemic red tape, end a maddening array of taxes and cut the overgenerous pensions which creates a huge hole in government finances. The list goes on.

The fact that Brazilians can travel visa free is not an indication of the strength of the Brazilian economy but an outcome of bullying. Brazil has a reciprocal policy of granting visa free travels or visas on arrivals only to countries that do the same to Brazilians. So, many advanced nations are forced to open their borders to them. I know Brazilian do overstay in the UK but I do not know if they do the same in other parts of Europe.

I am going to ignore you this time. Your post do make me or anyone said either. It just shows lack of civility in you cos you can disagree without insult. Peace

Gerrard59:
Next time, don't lie brazenly on the Internet. Brazilians are moving to the US illegally yet the visa refusal rate for Brazilians is less than 20%.

I'm not here to make you or anyone happy with my posts. Just don't lie, that's all.

I understand people goes thru hard time and desperation can make us do the unthinkable but people who knows better should discourage them. Media narrative does not help either. When the madia want to show Nigeria, they focus on the worst area but when it's time to show US, they show downtown LA, lower Manhattan while inner cities crumble and crime infested.
I grew up in Bariga and I attend Unilag and lived 2 years in Chicago. I can tell you there are lots of neighborhood in Chicago that Bariga is better than. That is a fact.

tensazangetsu20:
To be honest I am against illegal migration but for someone to risk their life like that you have no idea what they have been through in Nigeria. I don't blame them to be honest.

First, you can make your points without being rude and made calling. Second, Brazil is better than Nigeria but no country in the world worth risking your life to travel to. $$ does not grow on trees.
I never said traveling is bad, in fact, traveling is awesome but I will NEVER risk my life to travel abroad cos we only have one life.
Please be matured enough to state your points without insult and name calling. It makes the receiver understand and possibly engage you in conversation next time. Peace

Gerrard59:
This bloody cretin resides in the US and complains foolishly. If the USA is that bad, move your smelly yansh back to Nigeria!!!!!!

Nigeria has a higher unemployment rate than Brazil. Check LinkedIn to confirm. Brazil has more than TEN TIMES MORE JOBS than Nigeria. It's right there on LinkedIn bloody liar! You think this is 2000 where you people lie brazenly and stoopidly?!!!

It's Central Americans who move illegally to the US not Brazilians. Brazilians are middle class folks.

Please stop lying stupidly. It's annoying!

Look at the rejection rate of Brazilians in obtaining non immigrant visa to the US. Less than 20%! The same people you lied foolishly are moving illegally to the US? You are a cretinous fvcktard!

I can't tell you while would someone want to move people few Brazilians do. I will reiterate my position once more, no where in the world worth risking your life for cos there will always be challenges wherever you go. Traveling is awesome but not at the expense of your life.

tensazangetsu20:
I don't know about this but I know that getting a US visa from Brazil is very easy. The rejection rates are very low. So why would anyone want to move to mexico and get into the US illegally except the person is doing something illegal like drugs or human trafficking.

You could at least ask to to explain. First, Brazilians don't take the jungle route. They fly to Mexico and walk to the border to claim asylum and when there was uptick in Brazilians claiming asylum, US government pressure mexico to restrict Brazil free visa policy which mexico did.
Brazilians are not that much into traveling but I can tell you if you care to listen, traveling as store way to Brazil is a waste of time, energy and a worthless risk.

tensazangetsu20:
You are a very big liar. The visa rejection rates for Brazilian citizens is less than 3 percent. This puts Brazil as one of the top contenders for the US VWP list. Why would any Brazilian citizen cross the Darien gap to come to the US illegally when getting a US visa from Brazil is very easy. You guys lie a lot on nairaland and it's nauseating. I am in Chile and Chilean citizens don't even need a visa to go to the US or Canada whereas some people called Chile a shithole on nairaland.

I am not discouraging anyone from going to Brazil. In fact, I believe Brazil is a step up from Nigeria but risking your lives to travel to US, Canada or Europe does not worth it. Considering risk and reward factors, you can lose your life being store away dying a violent death.
Let me rephrase it. I will rather be a mechanic in Lagos than store way to Brazil. Simple.













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I am actually not comparing Brazil to Nigeria. Brazil is a developing country while Nigeria is consider underdeveloped country but crime rate and unemployment is prevalent in both countries. Do you know thousands of Brazilians travel to southern border of US to claim asylum yearly? They would have stayed in their country is Brazil is better as people make us believe.
Only fools will risk their lives to travel abroad cos wherever you're going, such a place has it challenges and you will not turn millionaires overnight just because you land for Europe or US. Traveling abroad is good but not at the expense of your life. They are beggar in the street of New York so they say.

tensazangetsu20:
Lol Nigeria's unemployment rate is over 50 percent. Brazil's unemployment rate is less than 20 percent. Both countries are the same population. You can't compare Nigeria to Brazil. That is an insult on Brazil itself.

Brazil is not heaven one bit and no country is closer to heaven in this world. After living in US for 10 years, I can tell you is little better than Nigeria and some areas in US is worse than Bariga for real. The crime rate, unemployment in Brazil will rival the one in Nigeria. That is a fact.

tensazangetsu20:
They are lucky. Brazil is heaven on earth compared to any place in Africa

Not even only tech industry. California port is now fully automated that robot do the lifting of container from ships and automated machines moves it around and stack it. Basic tech work will disappear in few months from now.

toprealman:
Artificial intelligence is demystifying this tech matter, many jobs in tech are going down

You nailed it but you need to include the fifth point. Never, ever leave a decent job in Nigeria and travel abroad. You will end up in group home at least for couple of years when you first get here. All these tech jobs na wash ooo. Maybe when the COVID inspired inflation but now that things had settled, your chances of getting tech job now is close to 1 per cent.

toprealman:
1. Start early
2. Test the waters first before going all the way with entire family.
3. Savings and minimum wage will never be enough to cater for your financial needs as a family.
4. Never ever sell your house in naija. Rent it out.

No. They are in for a long haul. First mistake is too many kids. Average family in US has 2 kids. More than 3 means you will definitely need help from the government as a foreigner, they would not qualify for it which makes it worse for them? Do you know much a daycare cost? I have a 4 year old daughter and her tuition for pre-k4 is $16k a year. Reason why people have less kids is cos kids are expensive and if you relocate with more than 2 kids and they are little kids like 10 and under, you're in a long thing and stress will kill you.

otherway:
They did not consult well.

You know those type of people who keep the plans of travelling abroad secret.

It may be tough now But laslas they will be alright.

Moving abroad I still a good idea.

He does not love his people at all. Russia is the only country in the whole world that can mobilize a 70 years old man to fight in Ukraine. That is the law he just made. If you think that is love them you need to look in the mirror.

flokii:
I just like this Putin man, dunno why.
The guy loves Russia and loves his people no doubt.
If only African leaders can emulate him and stop acting like prostitutes to all and sundry.

There is nobody that earn minimum wage in US and live decent. Anyone who earn minimum wage will need government assistance.

Gbogbowa:
can you mention one Nigeria with 30 minimum wage that is living a better life but many nigerian in usa with that minimum wage are doing fine even owing good houses in Nigeria .you people should stop saying rubbish Tinubu has failed us

Dash out cars? Really!!!

lavylilly:
Did he dash out the cars? I am interested if his willing to talk business.

I have a friend who is into car business and he has already closed shop. Borrow money import cars but nobody buys it for months. Factor interest on borrowed capital, depreciation and you're in trouble. Business that provide non essential services and the worst hit in inflation period, followed by salary earners.

Maobichek:
Good day, is it not when salary is paid that workers will have to patronize business owners?

In terms of business, there are people who deals on basic goods like food stuffs, drugs, transportation etc and non-basic goods such as shoes, cars, vacation etc.

No one can do without basic goods/needs but non-basic goods can wait ok( i have about 12 foot wears, i may not buy any footwear till next year),

The truth remains that most businesses who are into non-basic goods are suffering more than salary earners, thank you.

I agreed with you completely. Even as a business owner, you can't just increase prices cos of inflation cos your clients/customer will find alternatives to your services but salary earners are had hit when it comes to inflation.
I used to work for coca-cola and you get $.5 an hour pay increase yearly but price of bag of shrimp from Walmart goes from $9 to $14 in less than 2 years and you beginning to ask yourself if you actually getting a pay raise cos you are poorer every year compare to previous year. Starting a business open doors but inflation is worse than the devil for real.

nedekid:
You are right business people can adjust, but they too have limitations. When they raise prices, can people pay? Majority of their customers are salary people.
I will give two examples,

1. DSTV Premium back in 2013 was ₦7000 or $50 @₦140.
Today, DSTV premium is ₦24500 equivalent to $30 @₦800.

I used to charge 50k for a service I provided few years ago. It gave me $354.
Today, I charge 140k which gives me $175. If I charge 283k to give me equivalent of what I earned in $$ before, Who go fit pay?
Meanwhile cost of equipment keep skyrocketing due to the exchange rate, clearing fees. How do we replace those tools of trade?

Foreign is not always better. Some Nigerian has a better life in Lagos before they decides to sell everything and travel only to have it worse off. Studying medicine in some foreign countries is worse off than going to Benue state university for medical degree.

FreeStuffsNG:
Lobatan. Foreign doesn't mean better.They should study harder for the resit. Check my signature for free stuffs!

You need to learn to appreciate your parents. Average American staying paying bills at 18 in their parents house and we live rent free, food and still complains. Nigerians have it good when it comes to our parents cos some jokers send their kids out of the house at 18 in US .

Billionaire2:
Nigerian parents and their favoritism towards the well-to-do child?
if not for the biological love, some of them need to be disowned.. I swear
Most of us were pushed to the streets because of the maltreatments & pressure.

Agreed but the same government pays 30k as minimum wage. How did you expect people to make it to work. Tinubu is a learned person but I was surprised he removed the subsidy as once knowing the impact it will have on the economy. Subsidy should be removed in stages to give time for the people and the economy to adjust. It's literally impossible for government workers to make it to work on their present salary and something needs to be done ASAP.

EPIJOE:
I don't know why people don't understand simple dynamics of the Nigerian economy and this subsidy removal,.

With this dollar rate increasing we expected petrol to go as high as 800 per liters. As dollar increases.

Nigeria is not a producing state. Don't lets take it as of the president is the one increasing the fuel prices. It's simply the laws of demand and supply playing out.


What I just don't like was the way he removed it instantly with at least 2 months planning. to put solutions on ground to cushion the effects of this on the poor masses.

This is something else.

I believe FS should have been removed in stages. Like 25% quarterly to give time for the people and the economy to adjust. Removing it once will definitely rock the foundation is our economy and possibly spiral into recession.

GanagiBitrus:
FS removal is a case of extracting a rotten tooth before thinking of anaesthesia, instead of the other way round.

Really!!! Don't be ignorant and assume all knowing statute. I am few classes from doctorate degree meaning ain't no fools to know loads of church are scam but prayer works. Notice my post did not talk about pastor but prayer. Now back to the topic, my mum's prayers do wonder in my life...

descarado:
Your mother's prayer didn't do that. Rather you were diligent and worked hard.
Give yourself the kudos. You did well.

Wow.. what an advice indeed. My mother attend church, prays, gave 100 blocks, 10 bags of cements from my house project to church without telling me and when she told me, she said you going to see their prayer in your life. I bought a tractor trailer in one month of hustle. While some of our mother goes too far, NEVER denial your parents what they actually we earn and I believe their prayers open doors.

titilo:
mine use to do same, until i stop sending her money even if she says shes hungry, her brother also stopped, until she realised the so called men of God were only coming to pray for her cause of money.

So stop sending her money simple. Its like ant n sugar

Really!!. How many inches lift did you add to your car?

Whobedatte:
Lifted my Corolla , wahalii this has been cost effective . With 10 k I successfully raised it and im glad I did
Corolla bumper tokunbo is now 35 k o

Lifting of vehicles has nothing to do with roads. America has the most listen truck in anywhere in the world, even manufacturers now lifts brand new trucks. Listening is just luxurious cosmetics. Lifting 2 wheel drive is liking trowing your money away.

Alex80s:
You need it because manufacturers of these vehicles didn't put the deplorable state of our roads into consideration... If you stay in the city with good roads, what about traveling to your village??

Besides, it's safer to drive an SUV that has huge ground clearance. If you can't afford it ,you can lift your sedan,at least it will reduce the number of times you will visit a panel beater.

Elon nickname is genius idiot. That's what he is called on the street. Too much of good medicine becomes poison. He changed too much overnight and trows twitter on life support. As it stands now, twitter might be heading to myspace abysmal for real.

colbycell:
Your response made me login to Nairaland for the first time in a long time.

Elon is too full of himself, this is a wakeup call for him and if refuses to wake up then Twitter is gone.

Life is not judge by how many money you have. If it's all about money, only Dangote will be Nigeria president...

ojehmario1969:
Which one be pride again
You get money reach am
Mtcheeew

Hopefully, he will learn this time a dog can't guard two houses same time. He should had stayed away from Twitter with his conspiracies theories but he went head first and 80 per cent of advertisers ran. Free speech still need moderation or the bad actor will take over and turn it to free for all hell hole.

Psalm125:
Musk sorry, pride goes before a fall. You were handed a perfectly working coy by Jack Dorsey and you decided to kill it with trial and error ideas. Meta saw a chance and decided to take it. Don't blame them.

Polygamy is a crime in the US but people here have multiple girlfriend though and the cost of living makes it almost impossible to have multiple wives. But in fairness, how do a man that marries multiple wives intend to satisfy them when one woman is enough to drive a man nut?

God1000:
Only him with three wives.

But it seems only African men marry plenty women, you will hardly see European or American man doing this, I'm not even sure.