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Tenisam:
nah pure rubb! sh you dey talk. which history
oga pack well abeg
go back to secondary school for proper Yoruba history

for further knowledge
https://insideoyo.com/see-ranking-obas-yorubaland/

Is the link you posted here contains the history you were asking me to go back to?

We are talking about history, this one is posting a link of Oba ranking opinionated by Alake. I am 100% sure you don't know Jack about this subject matter.

softy:
welll done!
great job at saying nothing but jointed stories from here and there as one.

think about this and compare:

Oduduwa gave birth to Okanbi
Okanbi gave birth to Oranmiyan
Oranmiyan became Alaafin.
alaafin descedants becomes Alaafin of Today and Future.
The Present Alaafin is sitting on his Father's throne, the throne of a GRAND SON to Oduduwa.

Before Oduduwa became King
There were people whose lineages were kings called Ruling house.
We have 4 ruling houses in Ife.
Oduduwa was one.
The Present Ooni came FROM ONE OF THOSE RULING HOUSES.

YES, Oduduwa was referred to as Yoruba Father, but he met some people who were organised in IFE.
Odudwa became first Ooni.
[color=#006600]The Present Ooni is sittng on HIS father's throne.......throne of the Yoruba father, Oduduwa
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how can a grand son be giving his powerful and majestic grandfather 48 hours to change a pattern, if that is not distasteful, disgraceful, rebellious, rudeness, disrespect, youth exuberant, bastardic behaviour, arrant nonsense, and Afojudi?


if you were the grandfather, what would you do?
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I understand your point, but if Oduduwa actually met some organised people or people whose their lineage were King's from rulling house, how come he became first Ooni of Ife?

If the title of Ooni was first established or used by Oduduwa, how come those rulling houses accepted to use it when they are never his lineage?

If Oduduwa is regarded as originator of Yoruba and its history by both side, why are those people he met at Ife whose their lineage are rulling class claiming or fighting to represent what belong to Oduduwa?

Since those he met in Ife were not directly related or his procreation, why are they trying to represent him or taking up his glory?

In Yoruba land, Obas are appointed from males children of King's from rulling class, so where were people of rulling House when Okanbi his son ascended his father throne? Or was there no rulling class back then or was automatically created after Oranmiyan left the throne for Adimula?

Lastly, why were King's paid homages to only Alaafin in entire Yoruba empire and not Ooni of Ife?

From the book of history, Alaafin of Oyo empire is the real son of Oduduwa with first hand access to his dynasty. Oranmiyan being the last son of Okanbi, after his other six brothers has left Ile-ife, appointed Adimula as a place holder when he was about to leave.

Oranmiyan eventually settle at present Oyo empire and became first Alaafin. It was learnt that all Yoruba King's were used to pay homages to only Alaafin as supreme king in Yoruba land. The Ooni title/ rulling houses in Ile-Ife Town of today are lineage of Placeholder Adimula.

If we are to judge by history, Ile-Ife is ancestral home of Yoruba, and Alaafin of Oyo is the head of Oduduwa (the founder of Yoruba ethnic) dynasty. Therefore, he is the one in right position to appoint Yoruba cultural leaders.

But in another instance, if Oranmiyan 6 other brothers could not return to claim their father's throne, Alaafin too should not be poking noses on what is going on in his ancestral home. If he is to claim right, he should simply fight for his father throne and become Ooni, even in far away Oyo empire.

Maybe someone who know better can enlighten me on this.

Fiscus105:
Just I say, blaming others for your woes, as if whole lot of people are not poor in USA and other advanced democracy, I guess you will also blame their established govt for that.

Your number enemy is you, wen you start blaming everyone but urself, ur failure would be incurable.

Lolz, I was once like you, until I got exposes to some certain things that changed my perspectives about those I usually called lazy or unserious fellows.

Sane countries takes care of their children and old people. They takes care of their unemployed youths till they get jobs. They provide quality education at avoidable rate and even provided comfortable loan service for students from poor homes. They ensure robust economy policies that can give room for jobs creations. They ensure access to quality health service even if you are poor. What am I even saying, food is next to nothing in saner climes that even if you don't earn much, you should be able to feed your family.

The lists are endless, and if at this level of your education, you don't know that there is limit to what an average citizen can do in the midst of unfortunate society, then you need to return that certificate. Like citizen like leaders, you all love and admire western countries but can't do what they are doing to attain such level of development.

Kennitrust:
The government played a vital role in making it citizens poor

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Every growing businesses are due to policy that favors them.

Nigeria government are the real cause of poverty in the country.

Imagine Wike in possession of money that would have helped millions of people out of poverty but is hidden in his personal account.


Imagine Tinubu with bullion vant containing billions of naira means for the ordinary citizens.

Nigerians are reflection of those rulling them. See the kind of criteria someone is putting up as reason for poverty.

While it is important to emphasis on individual struggles as regards to their development, society plays a pivotal role in determination of what her citizens will become. Nigerians are not lazy at all, some don't even have work to do even though they wanted to work. Some prefer to stay at home because they will use all their pays on transportation.

Majority of successful people today normally get opportunity from somewhere that changed their lives for good. Is it the same youths you pay less than 70k per months that you are expected to achieve something tangible in life withiout being into fraud or engage in social vises.

A wise people knows that societies, backgrounds and opportunities along the journey of life determine how far an individual can go in life.

If you studies American and European system, you will never blame your country men for being poor again.

brain54:
Even my friend's wife I can never...

Talkess of brother.

I know how many of my friend's partners have tried to seduce me in the past.

Lack of self control and indiscipline is the cause.


I learnt a very long time ago during my secondary school days not to go near another man's woman.

It's a keg of gun powder!

Self control and discipline can't save you when it come to a woman that is your spec or the kind you have been fantasising about. With that type of dream woman, your self control will fail you if she really push herself to sleep with you.

What really safe a man from this kind of temptation is the moral value he hold towards it. Knowing fully well that it is morally wrong to sleep with your brother or someone else wife will forever liberate you from such incidents.

goatandyam:
Don't fall for it. Methuselah was a fictional thing. It never exist. Nobody has ever lived for 900 years. They are all fairytales . Moses didn't part any red sea. Mohammed didn't fly on a donkey from mecca to Jerusalem. Elijah didn't go to heaven using fire keke. The depiction of the Noah flood was a fiction. Lot turning to salt after looking back was a cooked up story. Just like our Yoruba elders cooked up the Sango and obatala fairytales. It's all the same thing. FICTION

You are very wrong, Sango and Obatala are humans like you and I who live bravely as warriors in the earlier age in Yoruba land.

Though the story about their doing might be well exaggerated but they were very real.

As for the methuselah and Co in the bible, you can never tell if their own calculation of years is what we called days or weeks now. If 30 days was regarded as a year those days, then it is possible for them to live up to 900 years or more.

My favourite Ebenezer Obe is still alive

There is motivation to put more effort in white and green Jersey now. Players might be rich but at least $100k and landed property in Abuja are still something.

callthefred:
You're wrong Sir. What you calculated here is what a person can get on a year. Remember the loan is for 5 years repayment so you'll need to multiply that sum by 5.

Repayment period means a duration in which the loan obtained would be pay back. For instance, if your loan is 1m, you will be giving an opportunity to split the repayment for 5 years. It doesn't mean computation of amount but period you are expected to pay back your obtainable loan.

It was clearly started in the article.

Not only entertainment industry but majority of big businesses, including real estate and hotels you see today.

phr0nesis:
The ones wey go cheat, go still cheat, but they are still the better option

A girl that can withstand adolescent pressure upto her 20s is not likely to cheat in marriage. Her type can endure sex for years if their husbands is not around. Only 2 of 100 can cheat in marriage, and that would be after a series of domestic abuse or negligence by their husbands.

Nothing beat marrying a virgin.

Michelle70:
Lolz, Wike has already thwarted this ur claim.
That man supported a party that he has almost zero chance of becoming it's president.

So APC stakeholders can actually work for another party

Ordinarily, some of you are not suppose to be discussing politics. The same wike that benefit immensely from the opposition he supported?

Wike knows it is the turn of the South, and it is not likely for the North to support any fresh candidate from the South. That man is not your regular politicians that don't think before embarking on a mission. Any southerner contesting against Tinubu that has only 4 years to spend before power return to the North is just wasting his time and resources. No smart politician would've attempted such.

The best ticket to restle power from Tinubu is Atiku/Obi ticket like 2019.

All my life, i had never dated my age mate, let alone someone older by wide margin. If my son bring this kind of women to me, I won't approve the union.

iscom:
And you think Tinubu will win Jonathan on free and fair election? If Jonathan contest he is your next president.

He can't win, APC are majority in the North, and ADC will also take a chunk of votes if Atiku run under it. Those eying presidency in 2031 under APC will still deliver for the incumbent instead of PDP where they don't have opportunity to do so. PDP votes in the South will most likely split between the loyalists of Tinubu and him, while that of APC will remain intact.

The only ticket that could defeat or almost defeat the incumbent is Atiku/Obi ticket, any other person from the South can't win because it won't make any sense for majority of APC stakeholders in the North to back another party candidate when they have brighter opportunities in the same time frame in their party when it is turn of the North.

Lolz, is like this one don't know that Japa opportunity is way above middle class, let alone suffering Nigerians.

Let just hope he turns things around because if he wins next election, and economy continue to be manage like this, only God can tell the fate of an average Nigerian.

Brendaniel:
That you are apolitical does not stop you from being a tribalist which you have proven to be, you are saying what K1 was not a big issue, well here you have it, you are saying we are being emotional just because we are calling out the wrong balancing of justice, I'm neither in support or against k1 being jailed, I'm only calling out the hypocrisy of people like you who are down playing what he did just because he is Yoruba.

You are saying the Igbo man's own is justified because you claim it had to do with politics but look at K1 also misbehaving and risking people's lives also because of political influence, but you will not see it that way, I didn't support what the Igbo man did and good the law took its course but you don't want the law to take its course on K1 because he is your person

read the what the law says below on K1's action and see that you are the ignorant one here.

Below is aviation act 2022, I have the 95 pages with me, and these are few sections that talk about K1 offense. No section is talking about imprisonment withiout an option of fine. The section you deliberately quoted was talking about Endangering Aircraft operation, which is specifically channelled towards the pilots in charge of operation( go and read the section to the end). K1 offense can be specifically group with " Assault, intimidation, or interference with crews".

I will say it again, 6 month no fly place on someone like K1 who travel alot is more severe and painful than to ask him to pay fine. Judging from this Aviation act, if you are a smart fellow, you should know that taking him to court where he will have an option to pay fine is a pure waste of time for prosecutors. The 6 month no fly is more appropriate and painful for such offense than asking him to pay fine( since is not a known terrorist or committing felony). Besides, the man has apologise for the wrong doing, I wonder why you people are hell bent on calling for his head.

The Civil Aviation Act of 2022, specifically Sections 75, 81, and 83, outlines penalties for various passenger offenses in Nigeria. These include unauthorized entry into aerodromes, endangering aircraft operations, and acts of intimidation or interference with crew members. The Act also addresses compensation for flight delays and cancellations under the Consumer Protection Regulations.
Here's a breakdown of specific offenses and their corresponding penalties:

Unauthorized Entry into Aerodromes:
Section 75 of the Civil Aviation Act 2022 prescribes a fine of at least 500,000 Naira, imprisonment for at least six months, or both for entering an aerodrome without permission.

Endangering Aircraft Operations:
Section 81 stipulates that operating an aircraft in a dangerous manner can result in a fine of at least two million Naira or imprisonment for two years, or both.


Hijacking:

Section 83 outlines severe penalties for hijacking, including a fine of at least 25 million Naira or life imprisonment.


Assault, Intimidation, or Interference with Crew:
Section 85 addresses passenger misconduct towards crew members, such as refusing to comply with instructions (like turning off electronic devices) and imposes a fine of 200,000 Naira or a two-month prison sentence.


Compensation for Flight Delays and Cancellations:
The Consumer Protection Regulations (Part 19 of the Nigeria Civil Aviation Regulations 2023) address passenger rights related to flight disruptions. Airlines are required to provide refreshments and communication options for delays, and offer compensation for cancellations, including cash reimbursements for full ticket costs.

I attach the link and pdf file for you now, go and read the section you quoted here with proper understanding.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ncaa.gov.ng/media/sxxn42yu/civil-aviation-act-2022-publi9cation.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiH6cWluICPAxWUVUEAHZK5KZkQFnoECF8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Blkpul3U1RosFmTQ9YJIL

Sellfish:
Sir tight syndrome even in "the Lord's house"

If we ask how this man is different from Paul Biya of Cameroon, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Assad, Stalin, and other sit-tight world leaders, im sheeple go say "Touch not my Prophet"

First, this man relocated to the US to enjoy life (or to manage a serious health condition as some people are whispering) after spoon-feeding his church members with doctrines of wretchedness for decades ..telling them watching TV or even listening to radio is a sin

Now he is saying they should not pressure him to hand over to a successor...Senior man, after more than 50 years of leading the Church, isn't it an indictment on your leadership if you haven't groomed people worthy enough to take over the mantle? ..

Is he waiting to suddenly drop dead and by so doing, foist a leadership war that can break the church?...Or he thinks he can't suddenly die? ...Isn't it far wiser to settle any succession issues while alive than plunge the church into disarray upon his demise?

What I have learnt from this is that at the very core, human beings are the same, no matter how religious we claim to be...

You are a learner , the refusal to endorse any successor is a deliberately act by these men of God. They know if they suddenly die today, their empires will be force to adopt their sons because no senior member will accept one another to take over.

So, the committee will eventually settle for their sons in order to avoid leadership crisis and shame on the church.

alpharoyalty:
You guys should stop making this stupid boy famous.
What is wrong with Nigerians 🤬🤬🤬

Me sef tired, I don't even know what this boy is doing for a living. I only came across his story recently on nairaland when they says PHD holders were queueing for his job. True true, alot of Nigerians has nothing to do with their times or probably their lives.

Brendaniel:
I'm sure if they bundled him forcefully, it is still people like you who will call for the prosecution of all those who did it to him like you are still defending him here even after they gave him respect by not rough handling him, what else did you expect them to do?


Look at the Obidient man that tried something even lesser was rough handled, bundled out, arrested, prosecuted and jailed and all of you supporting KWAM1 now all cheered on, now you guys are busy trying to twist the whole thing...

Your fight for KWAM 1 has nothing to do with whether he is right or wrong but the fact that he is your tribesman and supports Tinubu that you also support.

And someone like you will want someone like me to believe you want a country that works, if they prosecuted the man in the video, what stops them from prosecuting KWAM1?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XS6Jm1-vQ?si=pGmkxL6qsDyxtMCd

Lolz, for you to be comparing K1 offense to this man in the video, it mean you know absolute nothing about the law. The man in the video committed felony by using inciting false statement that could cause civil unrest if left unchecked. No government will fold her arms and allow an individual to be making a false claim amidst political tension in the state, it is not done anywhere in the world.

Go and read aviation law/acts pertaining K1 offense, if you cant have access to one, at least you can use Google. K1 has been giving appropriate punishment according to aviation act or law, it is you guys that are just too emotional and ignorance about law.

Contrary to your assumption, I am apolitical, I belong/support no one, ethnicity or group, I only approach issues objectively in accordance with reality on ground.

[quote author=malali post=136404699][/quote]You are yet to answer my question sir, what punishment do you think he deserves other than this?

I need to know your stand on this issue before I enlighten you about the gravity of his offense.

malali:
KWAM1 broke the law, and he has to be held accountable....the singular act of hostage taking and kidnapping of the aircraft and its passengers has to be addressed in court.
Keyamo is in no position to be the judge, jury and executioner.....thats gross abuse of power on Keyamo's part.

KWAM1 has to be arrested and made to be accountable for his action, throwing alcohol on the crew staff and pilot and assaulting them. The truth has to come to light.

What punishment do you think the court could've giving him better than this?

How would you establish that the content in his bottle is actually an Alcohol?

What if he is ignorantly protesting his right too at the moment?

Was it his fault that the security personels at the place could not do their job by forcefully remove him?

Finally, how did you know the air staffs and pilots are telling the truth?

If Jonathan is smart, he should've known by now that they don't really love his coming back but only the fact that he is constitutionally restricted to serve only one term to complete southern president.

North don't want Tinubu again, but knows that any candidate from the zone would be automatically rejected by southerners and key players from the North who has been focusing on 2031. They don't want to support another southerner too, who will be constitutionally allow to serve two terms.

These people know the almighty power of incumbent, especially the one that know how to use it like Tinubu, they know it is already gain over with Northern candidate or fresh face from the South, hence their attempt to bring someone that entire North and majority of South can align with.

The reality is that, we should all support and pray for this administration to get it right because, even if you don't vote for him, Tinubu will use federal might to rig off the oppositions, and you won't get rigging evidence to contend with in court. If Wike abracadabra could stand withiout Tinubu federal might, imagine the massive votes he would get from River, Lagos, Abuja, entire SS, SW and NC this time.

Security personnels at Airport should all be arrested instead. This show of shame would not have happened if they had done their work.

The suspension of the irrational pilots and 6 months no fly ban on K1 is an appropriate punishment on both side.

Kobojunkie:
Would you be willing to suggest your daughter or sister as a solution for OP then?

Unfortunately, I don't have.

He should find one by himself. He need love at the moment, not friends. He need something that will elevate his body and soul. That beautiful smile, soft touch and encouragement from his lovely girlfriend has a long way to do in his healing process. He should just avoid gold digger or wayward girl, that is all.

SultanYoung:
Eazi is the kind of in-law every sensible father would wish for —
low to zero scandals, minimal social noise, and a mature mindset shared by both him and Temi.

The truth is, to date a billionaire’s daughter and still keep things under the radar takes genuine love and strong self-discipline, not gold-digging intentions.
If his motives weren’t pure, he could have easily blown it all up.

He is different to an average guy you could see around ,not because of anything but his wealth and celebrity status.

Mr. Easy is not poor too, he can easily find another girl from top class home if he wish. She marry him, not because of his attitude but because he is not poor and command celebrity status.

DisLifeSha:
Good day my dear Nairalanders! I'm the only child of my late mother and I have a health issue that's taken a lot from me even as I don't make much. My late mother was also the only child of my late grandma.
I don't have anybody to talk to right now as I struggle to live life. I've ideas but nobody to share or discuss with. Right now, am sick, am not married and I feel very lonely. Loneliness is taking a toll on me. I don't want to do anything crazy. How can I make friends that'll be concerned about me? How can I make friends that'll care about me? Please, help a lonely person

You don't need friends but something that will occupied your time and mind. Do what you love doing at your lonely hours, you may as well need intimate love from a girl. You seriously need love at this moment, and that special love can only be found in a girl that care about you.

Deeprooted:
I am the type that buys whatever I come across deemed good for the family, especially while on road trip.

I noticed each time I tell my wife the actual price of the items I bought, she always complain I was cheated by the seller.

These are items you hardly can get within the city center.

The issue now is that, I'm now scared of telling her the true worth of the items I recently got while returning from South South. It was a road trip so I bought plenty cheap food stuff.

Madam say I no Sabi price. I just tire.
These are stuff I considered very very cheap.

Who the experience the same thing abeg ?

If a woman says they cheated you, just know she is 100% right they do. The right thing you should've done is to ask her the right price and use it to bargain next time. You will be amazed she could be right or almost right.

How I wish your parents that sent you to school see this. Face your studies and excel in life, women are the easier beings to have in abundance if you are successful.