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uunwanaobong3:
Bros, let Americans blame Trump...he is the president of America................................ But the whole world should blame WHO for their failure, they actually sided with China at the detriment of whole world..... Putting China first before the world.......... Trump has every right to remove America tax payer money from WHO since it does not serve the purpose it was meant for.

But how has WHO sided with China?
That's the question I want answered objectively.
It's not enough that some congressman tweeted something or that Trump said something.

{My own personal thoughts:
WHO can only work on surveillance data supplied by China.
Nobody knows what went on in China, and anything we have learnt so far about the SARS-cov-2 virus right now wasn't from the Chinese.}

Pls kindly share your own thoughts on why you think the WHO sided with China. Thanks

RIP Sir

cococandy:
Very well said

Mehnnn, Covid is giving me serious anxiety right now.
Nothing seems to be working..

ajl:
I have stories like this where blacks are neglected when they demand to be tested. The same happened to one of the young Nigerian that died of Convid-19 in the US. A black chap I follow on the social media who had Convid-19 was virtually chased off the hospital bed even though he was not 100% fit and the white nurse was even threatening to call security to come get rid of him. I am a Nigerian that live in the US, I am under no illusion. Though I may live in a nice neighborhood, I will get treated same way any black (drug-addict) on the street get treated.

A lot of revelations will come out once the whole Convid-19 problem die down.

True, and that is why Nigerians in America need to come off their high horse and stop thinking they won't be treated same way their AA brothers are treated or won't face the same problems. Your skin remains black, and it won't save you o.
Even Serena Williams despite her wealth and influence wasnt listened to when she had a lung embolism after having her baby. She had to practically insist on the tests they did before they discovered it. She would have probably died, if she hadn't insisted. They only listened to her because she had money, attitude and influence at the end of the day. Imagine if she was the regular poor or middle class black who doesn't have insurance or cannot afford the multiple tests?

omoharry:
healthcare?Dont they have health insurance which suppose to be composary ? Are you saying if some one does not have a health insurance in this time of corona virus, he/she would not be attended to?I doubt it , because if the infected are not treated,then the virus will spread even further . Even as bad as Nigeria is , people are attended to immediately it is confirm that they have virus .
I think the high rate of death among BA is due to their lifestyle and their obesity, couple with the fact that so many of them are poor and live in poor neighborhood where they would not taken the social distancing seriously.

Many do not have insurance, so most rely on A/E services as their healthcare. When you are poor (a point you have raised yourself), you cannot have insurance. Insurance is expensive o. Even the insurance in Nigeria is categorised and the correct ones ( which is probably basic compared to other nations) are very expensive. Can you afford 50K to 150K every month for insurance in Nigeria?
The middle class people who have insurance are lucky as their companies may provide them with insurance but if you're poor and just do menial jobs like cleaning etc, insurance is a luxury and you only pray to God not to fall sick.
You will see them in A/E when things have gone really worse for them.

Now for the latter part of your post, there are poor neighborhoods in Nigeria and your covid centers won't save you when shit hits the roof . It seems we are providing good care now because our cases haven't escalated (and I pray they don't)
For now, the covid centers have more staff than patients and are really for those mild to moderately ill.

When severe covid strikes with multiple organ failure like kidney failure, respiratory failure we will see where you will turn to. How many dialysis machine do we have in Nigeria? How many can afford the dialysis machine? About 30 to 60 k per session.

Even the ventilators (where only 20%of those put on it are able to come off it, meaning the other 80% will be allowed to die after sometime, i.e. they do not survive) will not help you, and are not even easily accessible and will be accessed only by your rich who have influence.

Please, be careful about your choice of words, and learn to show some respect to covid o. No need to downplay it and limit it's power to only people with underlying issues becasue Covid has been shown to bite a lot of people in their asses.
Governor of Oyo state caught Covid after talking thrash about it, It only got worse in the US after Trump said it was a hoax by his competition, It is humbling nations with all the access to healthcare- the UK's NHS is overwhelmed at the minute because of Covid. The world is grounded because of Covid. Healthy people with no underlying illnesses and obesity have also died in this brouhaha. Children are also not exempt from dying anymore, even though their cases are not as much.
In short FEAR COVID19. The bastard corona is not here to play games with anybody whether healthy or underlying health issue.

Abeg, who get pin mouth charger?

Post partum depression is REAL

Cut off his hands, and his penis

SoNature:
Oh, keep quiet!

You thought I would keep quiet when you called my pals stupid

Like they say, birds of a feather flock together

Read this well:
YOUR FRIENDS IN AMERICA ARE STUPID.

back2sender:
This is why the blacks are dying in the USA. Bad life style

Or perhaps lack of access to healthcare?

SoNature:
Bring it on, mister

Enlighten me, Mr. Information

Rest assured that I will return your insults of equal weight when you throw that foul lingo at my friends

Still doesn't stop the fact that they remain stupid.
It is what it is.
I'm not here to trade insults with you because I assure you, I will take no prisoners.
The world is facing a crisis right now, and I'm more concerned about that.

SoNature:
Ogbeni, keep quiet!

The US has lots of jobs; plenty of it

There are companies begging people to come and work

What the real Americans do is to work for a few days and stop work because the government will always take care of unemployed citizens.

Those guys I know over there have the permit to work in the country and are often shocked at the behavior of the blacks - they are disgusted, to say the least.

While I appreciate the efforts of the American Africans who worked hard to liberate their people, I think you are the stupid one here for encouraging people to lazy about and expect the government to drag heaven down for them

You don't go to school, but you want to enjoy the benefits that educated people enjoy

That's senseless thing northerners do in Nigeria

You are unfortunately very uninformed, and your friends are truly stupid .

Those berating AA do not know their history in America.
There has always been a systemic oppression of AA.
They never had access to schools, communities they have managed to build up to a high standard were purposely destroyed by white supremacists, they have little access to healthcare, they have been used as experiments- Pls check out the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. And we have the guts to say they are lazy.
Smh, their forefathers built America!
May God forgive you Nigerians who will go to another man's country and start claiming superior. Any wonder why there is so much hostility by other blacks towards Nigerians?
Anyway, lemme remind you all, you're still black and the gun of the whiteman will still make you bleed regardless of your class and pedigree.

SoNature:
DCmonster is right

I have Naija friends in Dallas

They say black Americans are utterly useless

The African Americans even envy Latinos and African migrants because those ones seem more focused

The lazy African Americans just want the government to do everything for them and blame the White man for their failure in life

The lady I know said she is often disgusted whenever she's trying to get to work in the mornings and sees the Black Americans with huge wraps of whatever they smoke

Your Naija friends are stupid.
Where they are now in America is due to the fight of the African Americans.
They have no moral right to speak against AA.
They are lucky because they never had any systemic oppression as AA have had all their lives. They , the Naija people grew up in nigeria with a sense of home, and had almost free education up to university level, before going straight to the US to take up the spaces created for AA. Why won't they have the guts to berate AA.
They will soon look for a way to send them out of their country built with the AA sweat and blood, and we'll be shouting xenophobia upandan. Nonsense

fairfora:
True and the reason is simple..

Blacks do all sorts of dirty jobs in America

Blacks work as cleaners and bartenders which make them susceptible to the virus

Blacks and other minorities work as toilet cleaners, hospital attendants and security guards who open and close doors for customers and these make them more vulnerable than their white counterparts

Blacks are more ravaged by illnesses such as diabetes, HBP, etc due to the ever increasing inequalities in America, caused by whites. More whites have access to healthcare than blacks...most of whom cannot afford the bill.

Blacks are also so backward because they mostly depend on government for everything. Only those who dare the challenge among them stand tall.

I was in Washington DC a few years ago for an event culminating in my meeting with Barack Obama at the daughters of the american revolution ( DAR) hall. I was the only one invited from Nigeria for that great event which drew more than 1000 people of like-minds from across the globe. The population of black to white in that hall was like 5/95. I looked everywhere, na soso white heads I dey see. I now looked odd amongst them.

Amazingly, all the cleaners, guards, security personnel, luggage carriers, drivers engaged in that event were blacks. I went to a lady to claim my tag who was also black. She didn't know why I was feeling moody. She asked if i was ok and I smiled and said yes, ma'am.

Blacks are seeing everywhere doing the low cadre jobs. There's no how a covid-19 patient would not touch mall railings, use toilets, carry infected garbage, open the doors to customers enter and leave the mall, etc. I hardly see white Americans doing these. People should check it...only a meagre number of educated Americans and celebrities are infected.

In Spain and italy, whites are mostly affected by the pandemic. The natives do those jobs earlier mentioned there mainly. That's why the reverse is the case in those countries.

You are right.
Covid is no respecter of race
Blacks in America seem to have it so bad because they have all sicknesses so bad in America, due to their poor access to healthcare.
Many homeless people in NYC, and of course the spread will be crazy there
America should do better in providing basic healthcare for all classes
Hispanics too are also hit hard, even higher than the black community when you compare rates.

Anyway, with regards to the funding, perhaps they should review it and even withdraw their funding.
They can invest that money within their system making healthcare available to the poor people and to the homeless on their streets.
Even middle class Americans are affected by this virus and can be ruined financially. Socialist healthcare systems can only benefit everybody. Unnecessary healthcare needs like cosmetic plastic surgery shouldn't be covered but they need to review their access to healthcare in the US.
While withdrawing their funding of the WHO, they should also consider not putting their noses in other peoples affairs , and the.money used in sponsoring military bases in other nations can also be poured into their healthcare system.
Win win for America.
The nations who need WHO the most are African nations, so if other wealthy nations don't fund the WHO, our leaders will have to step in and perhaps start spending money appropriately. No more free vaccines for our childhood immunizations etc. Maybe this will give us all a brain too.

ornicus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLP5MS4n4iM

Faux news?
A major part of the problem, hurting Trump and the US while they think they're helping him.

ogaontop:
China actually misled the world and WHO on the extent of damages done by this virus, China knew very well that the virus is human to human transmission and they said otherwise to the WHO which was announced to the world,they were not even being true to the figure of casualties and drugs they used in remedying the situation...... it's either WHO takes action against China for misinformation or has itself to blame for not carrying out an independent research before advising the world ( which is their primary responsibility)

There's little the WHO can do to China tbh. I don't think they even give aid or assistance to China.
I doubt they have such powers
Independent research takes time and observations which the virus isn't giving anybody. The only country they initially had was China, which withheld the information. WHO offices there too is probably filled with only Chinese people anyway.
Its until it started affecting other nations that the virus and its spread is being studied in depth.
Perhaps other nations can sanction them, but China seems to have most nations by their balls.

cr7lomo:
Y wudnt he blame WHO and China?? We keep on letting stuffs slide away and that's y nonsense keeps on happening... Trump will mk alot of manipulators become careful knowing that he knows what they know and will act .... Someone must take the fall for this crisis the world faces

1. China has a lot of blame no doubt, but WHO only takes action on information given to them by a country.
2.Covid was also not a democratic hoax.
3.Trump also should be blamed for shutting down the pandemic response team as this was an invaluable resource in the US, that would have kept a close eye on this covid with information available to them.
The responsibility to take action wouldn't have just been on Trump but on them. They would have offices in NYC and all states collating information and working together. That was the whole purpose of that agency. Eyes would have been on the covid long before it became widespread in the US. They would have started preparing for eventualities and would have long ordered PPEs, masks, ventilators before there was a scarcity. A better plan would have been in place to curtail the spread.
When a leader does something right, I am all for applauding them. When they make mistakes, they need to be scolded and also accept responsibility.
I really hope this pandemic stop, and there is a solution in sight. But hoping won't do the job of stopping it though, so we continue to do our best.

We are reaching that point too.
Pls, everyone needs to take this lockdown and social distancing seriously
The US has about 19000 deaths so far, UK has 9000, Italy has almost 19000 too.
This is a serious thing o

cr7lomo:
Do u even watch the news?? Besides , will u compare the airport activities in America or UK to Sweden?? JFK is one of the busiest airports in the world ... hundreds of thousands come and leave America daily ... do u think any president would just wanna shut down their borders just like that?? Do u know the negative economic impact?? They would wanna b very detailed b4 they mk that decision... Even when he shut the borders , Democrats started attacking him... That he should handle it without shutting the borders ...how possible could that be... Now , if he shut the borders in December and the disease turned out not to b as serious as WHO initially predicted and it hits their economy... people like u and those vindictive Democrats will b the ones attacking him that he disregarded WHO's recommendation and that's why millions are jobless

I repeat, I'm not talking about shutting the borders. That's why I gave examples of South Korea and Sweden who are not doing lockdown in their cities.
1.Trump gave a lot of false reassurances and misleading information about this virus. From calling it a democratic hoax, to saying its like the flu which would go away like a miracle. (You should watch some of those his videos /press briefings where he appears like a Nigerian pastor and not the POTUS)
2.Trump dismantled the pandemic response team in the USA, which was set up by the Obama administration ( during the Ebola crises in West Africa) to guide the country through any possible pandemic. That was a bloody proactive move by Obama, and the US would have taken all the accolades that they were prepared for a pandemic even though the world saw non coming. Infact, it would have made them appear like seers in this present times.
3. He chose not to act when he got the information in Dec about this virus, thinking only of the economic impact. But he could have still taken some action without needing to shut the border and impacting their economy so badly. South Korea is doing so at the moment.
19000 people are dead in the US now, Over 2000 died in the last 24 hours. We're still counting.
NOTHING was done because he didnt even believe in the virus, and called it a hoax despite all the information available to the most powerful man in the world, surrounded majorly by the best brains.
4. No country in the world was prepared for this, and many countries are facing a backlash from their citizens. So I cannot single out US and say they've done so woefully. [/b]My major problem with him is blaming everybody else.[b]
Nobody is perfect, there is obviously some lapses in judgement by the leaders of many nations, including Nigeria (we seem to have followed the path of the US) but nobody is blaming others here except the US.
(Of course everybody blames China for not being forthcoming about the disease in their country)
You and Trump have blamed the democrats, you're now picking on the WHO too. Yet refusing to accept the parts you have played in it's spread in the US.
People felt safe because POTUS said so not knowing we were allowing it to spread, we all started using Chloroquine all over the world because POTUS said so.
There's a lot of power AND responsibilities attached to the office of the POTUS. We celebrate its successes and we also decry its failures.
I really have no bad feelings for Trump, but many lives have been lost at this point.

cr7lomo:
Do u know 12000 Americans lost their lives due to swine flu from China in 2010 and millions infected under Obama.... Don't say what u don't know ... Is America the only nation in the world ...y dint UK , Spain , Germany, Italy , France shut their borders in December?? U people just hate trump so much that ur hate has blinded u... Y don't u blame other world leaders , is trump the only world leader??

I dont hate Trump.

Other world leaders are not blaming other people for their failures.
That is the difference.
Germany hasn't come out to blame anyone, Italy hasn't come out to blame anyone, UK hasn't blamed anyone. They're all too busy fighting the virus
It's definitely not about lockdown. There's not one single place I mentioned lockdown in any of my posts on here.
Till date, there is no lockdown in Sweden, and their date rate isn't higher than other scandinavian countries even (though they have a higher population and higher absolute numbers). Their numbers are a 100 times better than America, UK, Italy. Sweden's numbers are expected to rise because they haven't really put much in place, but we watch and see
There is also no lockdown in South Korea either, and the measures they've put in place seem to be working for them.

Where are the swollen legs?

Nodogragra4me:
It is the other way round... The security people are not taking chances with Mr. President... Every one coming to see him in the last couples of days has had to wear the mask and some even glooves.

He already has an underlining illness. ... Sweet music to Coro... What snake is to @lalasticlala is what underlining illness is to Coro ..

True talk.
They are protecting the president, hence everyone has to wear mask.

nkwuocha1:
Seems the VP don't want to take chances
Him no trust the cabals.
Since both are Negative why the VP extra precautions?


No handshaking yet?
The speed at which he will bath himself with Antiseptics and sanitizers after every meet.

Where is Garba shehu?SSA Media and publicity to the president? Seems other 'spokespersons' are beginning to do his job as well lately

Buhari doesn't live alone in Aso rock, you know.
Corona is/was in Aso rock. That much has been confirmed
Even though Osinbajo and Buhari are both negative, there are other people in Aso rock.
He would have interacted with people he doesn't know their status right from the outer gate of Aso rock.
From the various security details to housekeeping staff, he would have come into contact with before seeing the president.

Meanwhile, where is Abba Kyari? It's been over 2 weeks or longer he was confirmed with the corona virus. Are the Chinese here to treat him, or he has been transferred to Cuba/Germany? Please who has an idea?

GamalNasser:
Shut up !!! Cuomo is the problem why New York is suffering so much casualty , a stupid failed democrat governors who intentionally allowed the virus spread hoping it will hurt Trump at the polls but now it's his chances at the polls that have been hurt as approval rating of Trump is at an all time high fro a president during a crisis...

I am very sure you are even a Buhari supporter

Don't be so rude, but then can anything better be expected from you?
Certainly not

luckshine007:
But governors are praising trump, I know your cnn will not show you that

I don't even watch CNN.
Let's hear what Cuoma, NY mayor has to say about Trump my dear. He is the one in charge of the crises in the state most hit with the highest recorded deaths of over 7000 people in the US.
He has also been very proactive and active in trying to contain the disease.
It's just like comparing Buhari to Sanwo Olu in the management of the crises in Nigeria. Our lapses aren't showing yet because it's not widespread yet. We hope it doesn't get to that level, because it will become all man for himself.
If Trump doesn't sit tight now and face governance in managing this crises, the WHO DG's prediction of more body bags will come to pass.
It's not about hating Trump. I normally try to avoid putting mouth in US policies, but this time around it's worldwide. If the US sneezes, almost the whole world will catch a pneumonia. Trump mentioned chloroquine, and immediately almost all countries in the world jumped on it. They also knew about chloroquine as it is documented in the medical books of old, as a possible treatment for the corona virus family but no proper studies were done. Till date, America and several other countries are still doing their studies on the chloroquine angle, yet we're all jumping on chloroquine. Some countries have stopped using it now sha, as it was causing more side effects in their Corona patients and they felt worse with the chloroquine .
Anyway, my point is Trump should face the covid crises squarely. He should stop pointing accusations around. After the whole crises, he can then start facing perceived enemies, things, politics. He seems to be only thinking about reelection for now, forgetting that corona wouldn't just go away, and he's the man at the helm of affairs.

GenSam:
China is currently the problem of the world just because of power.

Yes, trust them at your own peril.
Nigeria doesn't seem to know this though.
They are desperate

cr7lomo:
U are talking nonsense out of ur hate for Trump....y blame Trump like as Americans are the only ones being killed by this disease... No country took this seriously due to the recommendation from WHO , until Italians started dying like fowls... Trump is even doing his best managing the number of deaths... America is a population of about 330 million... What would u say about Spain and UK that recorded about a thousand deaths a day?? The Chinese lied to the world about the true nature of this disease.... I'm also sure they lied about the number of casualties as a communist Nation that they are

Trump isn't doing his best.
He has not been so supportive of the governors in the states badly hit, and the governors are the ones doing their best.
Trump also had same information the WHO had in Dec, he knew about the virus for months and downplayed it and caused a delay in the response of the US to this virus.
-The same Trump dismantled the pandemic response force set up proactively by Obama during the Ebola crises. He fvcking dismantled it. How useful would those resource have been during this period for the American people. It's all on video, so nobody can say it's a lie.
Trump has been passing wrong information left, right and center about this virus crises. He downplayed it too much and never listens to advice from the experts he has around him. All caught on video, so it's not a matter of dem say , dem say.
-He said it was a democratic hoax, a fake news put out there by Democrats, and refused to act early on it.
- He said it is contained when it apparently wasn't
- He said it would miraculously just go away.
He kept on giving false assurances to the American people despite having information of the havoc it has started to cause in New York. He put his people's life in danger
-He came out publicly to give us chloroquine just so it would appear as though he's doing something, but Chloroquine doesnt seem to be doing Jack at the minute and people are complaining of it's side effects more.
His problem is that he never listens to the experts he surrounded himself with. Why bother employing all these people with marvellous portfolios and experiences when you won't bloody well take their advice?

P.S- I do not hate Trump, but he hasn't handled this crises well if we tell ourselves the truth. Almost 19000 are dead in US as of today. Even 911 didnt cause this much death.

Please, Nigerians should continue to take this virus seriously. It's not joking with anybody o. I know it's hard to stay home indoors because of hunger, but when push comes to shove, you will see the food and can't eat it .
Let's all support each other, if you can afford to share food to families that are struggling pls do so. Be your brother's keeper this period, for the common good.

justwise:
Trump will not fool anyone with this one, from blaming the Democrats, to China and now WHO. As the US recorded 2000 deaths on a single day he knew that the blame lands on his feet because he never took this seriously from the beginning and was listening to Fox News opinion hosts.

He refused to help some states governors because they are not appreciative, lied about the availability of test kits etc.

If he decided to defund WHO he opens door for China or Russian to fund that organisation and take influential position.

You are right about that.
Trump unfortunately doesn't want to accept responsibility for his failures in handling this crises.
He truly believed it would go away like magic, but corona isn't having that.
He never seems to take the advice given by his experts and just does his own thing. Dr Fauci has had to go round all media to clean up the misinformation Trump has been giving to the American people about this disease. He should let them talk and brief people instead of him doing the talking.
He has blamed everyone but himself in this crises, he has blamed the governors majorly affected, he has blamed the Democrats, he has blamed WHO.

China is really keen on taking over the position as world power in everything, including technology.
Interesting but sad times we're in now. So sad that many lives are lost and even more to come, and many economies are going down in shambles.

ednut1:
The disease is airborne even me as an accountant knows. But WHO has been saying otherwise. Trump abeg deal with them wella

WHO can only give information that is fed to them.
China held out on a lot of information. Everyone is only just learning about this particular corona virus. It's a new virus
It was initially thought to be strictly a zoonotic disease/animal - to- man transmission when it first
started in Wuhan animal market. Seen in people from the market , but later noticed to spread even amongst those who've never been to the market.
Their Drs told their Chinese govt, but they ignored the warnings and even tried to silence the Drs.
Much information wasn't coming out of China, until one of their Drs decided to make it public on social media or so, about the extent of the disease and what they're battling with. The young Dr is dead now from Covid (or who knows what their govt did to him) and another whistle blower Dr has been missing for sometime now. Nobody knows where she is, whether in a concentration camp o, or she's been killed by their govt, or she ran away for her life, nobody knows.
Till date, the exact number of deaths in China is speculative because you can't even trust their figures but we still take the numbers they give us like that.
If Sierra Leone (or is it Liberia) had tried to cover up the last major Ebola crises and not quickly asked for help, it would have also become a pandemic, or spread much more around the world. That's even for Ebola, an old disease that has been in existence since the 70s.
We are all still learning about this virus, so we can only continue to observe for sometime.
Like I said, it was initially thought to be only from animals, then later droplets, again later discovered to be airborne, and even now thought to be spread by contact.
We don't even know if those who've recovered from it will have long term complications or not.

MariaAngeles:
Mr Monopoly Jack-of-all-trade Shrewd.
He's loyal to everyone, he's loyal to no one.
Government out, another in, his businesses never gets affected.

Today is his birthday...

cococandy:
I have ignored him and all of his other stalking monikers that I can identify for years. NL doesn’t really do anything about creepers in its forum except ban them and then let them come back again.
You keep ignoring and the people who don’t know what’s going on come and ride on his back to spew their own venom.

Gbas gbos
Gbas gbos

The knockout, odi too much..