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TheSuperNerd:
U mean Anumudu of 2015 U-17 or Okon Samuel of 2013 U-17..... Which one? I'm thinking u refer to Anumudu

Anumudu, thank you. I misplace the name with Ndidi Anumudu, one time Heartland and Enyimba player.

chrisooblog:
where in my post did i say elderson is better? i used AFCON as a criteria to show that even without taiwo nigeria has won stuff and done well so all this talk of bringing him back is mute. taiwo in his pomp belongs to the same school of players like roberto carlos, deigo alves etc whose attacking play covers their defensive inadequacies.

for sure elderson and oshaniwa are not as athletic or strong as taiwo but you can be damn sure they wouldn't be caught out of position unlike egbon TT on numerous occasions

well drogba vs george weah is debatable. not now sha maybe next time

yea, I believe in forward ever, no Taiwo, Enyema or Emenike for supereagles again, I rather call Taiwo to the team to oshaniwa. Oshaniwa wey no go see shirt for Ikorodu united... Abeg where that Ndidi guy that played LB for U-17, that guy is a combination of taiwo(powerful shot) and Babayaro(skillful)

chrisooblog:
i'm not surprised you would come up with this kind of silly comparisons. you want to compare taiwo to kaka and ronaldinho really? a football novice to ballon d'or winners? i tire for you.

ronaldinho was a resounding success in psg and barca. his time at ac milan though not stellar was above average. kaka was almost a walking deity when he was at ac milan. his time at real madrid though blighted by injuries was above average. unlike egbon taiwo who barely played 2 games for ac milan. even milan legend maldini questioned his signing.

elderson as poor as he is we won AFCON using him. how many did egbon taiwo win with nigeria after 3 attempts?

anyway i don't expect what i wrote to change your mind since he's a favourite of yours so let's just agree to disagree because i know you are the king of unnecessary arguments which i don't have time for today.

how would you use winning nations as a criteria for saying elderson is better, you look at individual influence/performance in a game, its just like saying Drogba is better than Weah cos Weah could not take liberia to the world cup.

Why do some forumite feel you must talk bad of one Nigeria player or use derogatory remark on one in other to champion their favorite player. Iheanacho and Iwobi are making Nigerians proud and we should appreciate them instead talking them down because your own favorite player is not making wave..... Calling them tatas, toddler make you no different from the Zambians, and remember how the toddler disgrace the zambians at their backyard, I hope same thing will not happen to some here.

Icon4s:
See, this issue of "facts and statistics" is some times over-rated. If it is based on "facts and statistics" someone like Okocha no go come near Victor Ikpeba career-wise.

On the list of top 10 young players we voted for 2-3 weeks ago was Dominic Solanke there? As far as i can remember the counts Iwobi was in top 3.

And that same Iwobi is a toddler to Solanke?
Forgiveness, sometimes abeg dey argue with conscience.

He really needs to add conscience to his argument

CliffordOrji:
As an Igbo man, I have been hearing some of my Umunna brothers insist that the abduction of the Chibok Girls is a scam. As a true Nwafo Igbo, I also insist that the Biafra war is a scam too. All the stories of the purported genocide against the Igbos is a pure lie. The Biafra war is a scam that was cooked up and created up by Ojukwu. Umu Igbo Ndewooo

for your mind you don post comment,

terzurum5:
[b]AF Nigeria 2018

africanfootball.com/news/656588/Franco-Algerian-Adam-Ounas-invited-for-World-Cup-qualifier-in-Nigeria

October transfer window.. Countries are now signing players, Algeria just unveiled their new signing meanwhile Nigeria is still in the market doing the arsene wenger shopping style.

forgiveness:
You are trying hard to find words from my mouth, ba?

The truth is, nothing is guaranteed in football.

How many goals Isaac Success and Kelechi Iheanacho scored in youth competitive matches?

Remove friendlies.

How many goals at Club matches?

That is how we can know is more prolific

Make sure you back it up with facts.

Let those players make Chelsea bench first before we know good they are but for now they are not in the same Level.

A bench material in Chelsea fc first team while the regularly are in small small boys clubs.

What an irony!

Bros your pattern of argument, most people in this forum might just start avoiding any debate with you, Nothing person no go hear bench warmer in Chelsea better than starter in ManCity

BascoVanVeli:
He is an above average keeper playing in wat i consider to be the best league in Africa.

what make the league the best, is it the quality of players that comes out of the league? Daniel Emmanuel a Npfl player(not even the 1st choice at rangers) kept him on the bench. Akpeyi is a basket

TheSuperNerd:
AKPEYI RETURNS TO SUPER EAGLES FOR
WORLD CUP QUALIFIER

https://africanfootball.com/bp_images/2016/10/akpeyi.jpg


South Africa-based goalkeeper Daniel Akpeyi is set to be recalled by Nigeria for next month’s World Cup qualifier against Algeria.

“Akpeyi will return for the Algeria match as he has been playing well and regularly in South Africa,” a team official disclosed.


Akpeyi has been playing regularly for his South
African club Chippa United after he featured for
Nigeria as one of the over-aged players at the
recent Rio Olympics.

Chippa are seventh on the Premier Soccer League (PSL) table with seven points from four matches. The former Warri Wolves shot stopper last appeared for the Super Eagles in an AFCON qualifier against Egypt in Alexandria in March.


He will now be expected to be a cover for top
choice Carl Ikeme for the home game against
Algeria on November 12 in Uyo.

His international experience dates far back to
2005, when he was on the squad for the FIFA
U20 World Cup in the Netherlands.




Source: http://africanfootball.com/news/656513/Akpeyi-returns-to-Super-Eagles-for-World-Cup-qualifier

I don't see this Akpeyi as a good keeper, no exceptional quality, just there as in average abi below average

Icon4s:
Wilson Oruma lived under the shadow of Okocha. Just like Friday Ekpo lived under the shadow of Oliha, And all them Joel Obi, Raheem Lawal, Rabiu Ibrahim, Nosa Igiebor, are living under the shadow of Mikel.

And yes i recall that Oruma's penalty miss against Senegal. Unforgiveable.

It was a well taken penalty, sent the keeper(forgotten that guy name) the wrong way but the ball hit the bar, I can still remember the shock in his eyes that day.

Icon4s:
As far as the current crop of players are concerned, we have no replacement for Mikel. We only have players we can jst manage to cope with and pray our opponents dnt capitilise on the weekness.

Top on my "interim" replacement for Mikel if injured is Oghenekaro Etebo. He showed he could cope with the demands from a CMF in the Egypt double header.He also played that role occassionally at the 2015 CAF U23 tourney.

Another player we can consider is Raheem Lawal.

Our permament replacement for John Obi Mikel is still in the bakery of Arsene Wenger , though currently on loan to a Dutch second division side: KELECHI (CARZOLA) NWAKALI


JUST A LITTLE FROM MY HISTORY BOOK OF NIGERIAN FOOTBALL

I have been following different generations of our CMF starting from the 1980s:From Henry Nwosu to Friday Ekpo to Austine Okocha to Obi Mikel.

Quality CMF emerge once in a decade.

Henry Nwosu was the master that emerged in the 1980s. Young Nwosu started playing that role enrout qualification for 1982 WC. He was just 18years old! He scored Nigeria's only goal in the semifinal of that qualification against Guinea. 1-0 aggregate win. I dnt watch that game but i saw the clips some time in the late 80s. Nwosu was the CMF marshal from then on. 20yrs old Etim Esim emerged during qualifiers for the 1986 AFCON. We didnt qualify. He kept Nwosu on his toes. Etim again was in the squad for qualifiers for 1988 AFCON. By then he was playing with Gent of Belgium while Nwosu was at ACB of Lagos. Etim could have easily walked into that CMF role.However, he had a rape case and ran away from Europe to his village in the then Cross Rivers state . Nwosu went ahead to win the Golden Ball award at Maroc '88.

Westerhof came in with a 21yrs old Thompson Oliha at Algiers '90 AFCON. Oliha marshalled the position even up to 1994 AFCON and WC. Okocha was a sub to Oliha in both tourneys. 20yrs old Okocha debuted against Algeria enroute qualification for 1994 WC. He scored from a free -kick.

Okocha's final break through came after his performance in that Second round game against Italy. Where he was sending the Italian players to "go buy akara at Dugbe market" . Ekpo never came back to the team.

Okocha's legendary held sway even up to the mid 2000s. At a point we never believed Okocha would retire one day. We suddenly woke up to realise that we needed a replacement for him. Christian Obodo, aka bundle of skills, a product of the 2001 Flying Eagles, was performing magic with his skills at Peruggia of Italy.
A 21 yrs old Obodo was invited but.. Okocha had widened the shoe.

We managed with Okocha until John Obi Mikel, a product of 2003 Eaglets & 2005 Flying Eagles emerged. 19yrs old Mikel's Debute game was a gainst Zimbabwe at the 2006 AFCON. He scored few minutes after being introduced. That was the begining of the end of Okocha's reign.

Mikel we still have today, but at 29 there is need to once again introduce a youngster to carry us further. Introducing Kelechi (Carzola) Nwakali, an 18yrs old product of the all conquering 2015 Eaglets. He currently stands out, in terms of talent and skills, among his generation. We expect Rohr to gradually introduce him into the team. I dnt see Mikel post 2018 WC. Hope Kelechi Nwakali would have matured enough to step into that shoe.

Note the age at which Nwosu, Okocha and Mikel were introduced into the team. Our greatest CMF were those introduced at a very young age and allowed to grow in the team. Food for thought for our coaches.

kool, but you forget to mention Wilson Oruma, I remember the guy for the pk miss against Senegal Afcon 2002

TheSuperNerd:
Loooooooolllllll....... Aha!!!! I don hook you now......

Then good, we don reach compromise point now.

The position that combines Nacho's "10" and "9" qualities..... Nacho in an "MSN-like" attacking trident with Nacho to come from the right as the RWF... And Success from the left as the LWF and Osimhen in the middle....

Iwobi will play as part of a midfield three wearing the "creative cap" like an Iniesta and one of Kelechi Nwakali/Ovie Ejaria will play the Xavi role..... Our "busquests" will be one of Ndidi, Chidi Nwakali, veteran Onazi, or Esiti....

Our backline will have who we have but with good quality fullbacks.


Nacho's future are in three folds....

1. As a no.10 or "behind-the-striker/Man-in-the-hole" executor

2. As a no.9 with a "badass" no.10 behind him...

3. As part of an MSN-like attacking trident with Nacho playing false 9, or top 9 or coming most preferably from the right-to-central as the RWF.

When I see you guy mention Success -Oshimien- Nacho, I always smile and pray that day come quickly with Iwobi and Kelechi nwakali behind them mabasi! May that era come quickly.

AxeurdaddyIX:
While Nairalanders are busy with their daily spewing of vituperations and hating on other tribes. An Igbo man just gave out his daughter to a Hausa man.

Be wise. Live above tribal differences.

you are one of those that rush to comment without read, let me help you. An Igala man gave out his daughter Mariam to an Igbo man.

TheSuperNerd:
Well, he did scale the mandatory "MRI"

So he's certainly a youngster. And believe me, when you meet people with progeria or lorde's... Hahahahahaha... You, Sir, won't even know and will shout to the heavens if the person tells you his/her age.

Bros try to ignore people that come up with players age from their head.

TheGoodJoe:

Both players had good games. I do not think Sane will start against Barcelona but he is not far from the starting line-up. He is a big threat to Nolito and Sterling.

I wonder if anyone still does not see Iwobi's similarity with Kanu. When he made that run, that was pure Kanu.

I have heard many comparisons but his style to me is pure PAPILO. Lots of intelligence and elegance. He is a big part of Arsenal's impressive winning games.

I concur, Iwobi game is very similar to Kanu(selfless) to Okocha.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not think the midfield starved Nacho intentionally of passes. I think it has to do with Everton knowing Iheanacho was a threat and kept him tightly marked. In that scenario, the wider players were free.

With the Everton players compact, Iheanacho was the hardest man to reach.

Iheanacho and Aguero have two different styles. Iheanacho when he drops deep is more of a passing midfielder while Aguero is a runner.

With that, Aguero’s style attracts passes. The Everton players knocked out most balls aimed at Nacho, so the City players opted for more of the wide play.

it has nothing to do with style of play not just in today's match, city midfielder hardly give the ball to Nacho even when he keep calling for it.

TheGoodJoe:

It was a good game. They played well. Guardiola still has Barcelona ahead and Iheanacho might play a part.

It was never a good game, missing 2 pk, hw many attempt on goal, no fluidity in their game.

TheSuperNerd:
Iwobi is awe-inspiring!!! Who saw that "moment of the match"? His skills and ability to ghost pass people like they are not even there....

I am really miffed Iwobi didn't make the 30-man list of nominess for the CAF APOTY Award.



Iheanacho..... Got very few chances. In the first half, his involvement in build-up play was admirable but Man City didn't create any real chances on target, save for that penalty from De-bruyne which was saved by super stekelenberg.

In the second half, Nacho produced one shot on target. THAT SKILLFUL SIDE-BACK HEELED STRIKE from a tight angle that was stopped by the super impressive stekelenberg. Nacho didn't get any real chance to shine more than normal. But his build-up play involvements were really cool with quick passes and fast release of a team-mate.

I was really pissed when Aguero came in and told someone that Aguero won't score in this match coz I don't see what he will do that Nacho hasn't done.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE, HOW MANY CHANCES DID NACHO GET?? WERE HIS TEAM MATES THAT KEEN TO SEEK HIM OUT/PICK HIM OUT.....??

BUT WHEN AGUERO CAME, YOU SAW MAN CITY FLYING BALLS IN FROM THE WINGS.... ALL LOOKING TO FEED AGUERO WITH A KILLER PASS.... Arrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh.... *pissed*

Anyway, when Aguero won that penalty, I stood my ground and insisted Aguero won't score..... I even said that even if Man city does equalise, it will come thru another player BUT NOT AGUERO. Haba!!!

Pep was looking for goals... Why take out Nacho? Why not throw in Aguero with Nacho? And make it a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 as Man City were gaining a foothold in attack before Nacho was subbed... (That Nacho skillful tight angle strike).

I was angry. Nacho is hotter and more in form than Kun Aguero. So why take him out??
Kun missed a penalty for Argentina sef in their 1-0 WCQ loss to Paraguay.

Bia Sir TheGoodJoe...... Berra tell Pep Guardiola to take his time oooo..... And as for the man city midfielders.... Hmmm... I dey watch in 3D and HD.

Guy God bless you, you are spot on I also noticed that about the midfielders no killers pass to Nacho just shoot or turn around

TheSuperNerd:
Iwobi is awe-inspiring!!! Who saw that "moment of the match"? His skills and ability to ghost pass people like they are not even there....

I am really miffed Iwobi didn't make the 30-man list of nominess for the CAF APOTY Award.



Iheanacho..... Got very few chances. In the first half, his involvement in build-up play was admirable but Man City didn't create any real chances on target, save for that penalty from De-bruyne which was saved by super stekelenberg.

In the second half, Nacho produced one shot on target. THAT SKILLFUL SIDE-BACK HEELED STRIKE from a tight angle that was stopped by the super impressive stekelenberg. Nacho didn't get any real chance to shine more than normal. But his build-up play involvements were really cool with quick passes and fast release of a team-mate.

I was really pissed when Aguero came in and told someone that Aguero won't score in this match coz I don't see what he will do that Nacho hasn't done.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE, HOW MANY CHANCES DID NACHO GET?? WERE HIS TEAM MATES THAT KEEN TO SEEK HIM OUT/PICK HIM OUT.....??

BUT WHEN AGUERO CAME, YOU SAW MAN CITY FLYING BALLS IN FROM THE WINGS.... ALL LOOKING TO FEED AGUERO WITH A KILLER PASS.... Arrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh.... *pissed*

Anyway, when Aguero won that penalty, I stood my ground and insisted Aguero won't score..... I even said that even if Man city does equalise, it will come thru another player BUT NOT AGUERO. Haba!!!

Pep was looking for goals... Why take out Nacho? Why not throw in Aguero with Nacho? And make it a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 as Man City were gaining a foothold in attack before Nacho was subbed... (That Nacho skillful tight angle strike).

I was angry. Nacho is hotter and more in form than Kun Aguero. So why take him out??
Kun missed a penalty for Argentina sef in their 1-0 WCQ loss to Paraguay.

Bia Sir TheGoodJoe...... Berra tell Pep Guardiola to take his time oooo..... And as for the man city midfielders.... Hmmm... I dey watch in 3D and HD.

Guy God bless you, you are spot on I also noticed that about the midfielders

Good goal from Moses, this guy is on fire. In come Aina let me see how good the guy is with all the Aina Aina for here.

In other news Nacho starting for man city

Mickael2:
they are making waves where?! In the norwegian leagues? In the turkish leagues? In the segunda division? In the belgian leagues? Atleast perreira is at Manu, he plays a game every now and then, he isn't any different from Mikel who is also a bench warmer at Chelsea so what's your point? Lucas Moura is also at PSG, his game time isn't bad at all, he has played more games in the last 2 seasons than Iheanacho and Iwobi and Yahaya combined. Do you expect him to score so many goals? He is a winger incase you don't know and he played in thesame team with Ibrahimovic, and you know they have to feed him goals to keep his massive ego intact. His assist ratio is not bad at all.

Our best players in top teams are either bench warmers (Iheanacho and Mikel) or playing in an underachieving team(Iwobi, no disrespect to Arsenal though), so what point are you trying to make there?

He just asked for your top 15 Brazilian U-21 shikena not this long story.

Icon4s:
Enyeama is a closed chapter in the history of Nigerian football.
He remains our all time best goalie but it is a shame he retired the way he did.

Abeg help me tell them, we gat no issue with the goalkeepers we have, abeg who was the Nigeria coach that at one time was using Agbim chei Nigeria have suffered.

Mickael2:
I am not saying he isnt okay o, but Enyeama is better and if he comes back,he starts but Ikeme isnt bad at all

Enyeama is not coming back, Ikeme is Nigeria first choice and he's doing very well, we should be looking for a younger goalkeeper to understudy Ikeme.

I wonder why someone keep saying Ndidi was fantastic, do you know hw many times kalaba drive into our 18yard box, I kept defending guy where I was watching tell whoever care to hear that the is a dm not a RB. And for Omeruo, he should be kept far from the 18yard box right full back will be better if not Nigeria will always concede from his error.

How will Someone say Kenneth was better than Ekong in the match, they was no difference from the Kenneth we also know running upandan not compose, you can bet he'll make one error before fulltime abeg give me Ekong any day any time very compose with his tackles, very fantastic in the air, ball playing defender.

Thank you Enyeama for leaving, you serve Nigeria well. Carl Ikeme is a world class keeper, my Man of the match

joseph1013:
[b]AINA SHOULD SWAP ENGLAND FOR NIGERIA - MIKEL

[img]http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL_INTERNATIONAL/4/c4/ola-aina_4hgu77byv2mw1otpn054af86j.jpg?t=-1810160103&w=620&h=430[/img]

The Super Eagles' captain has asked his Chelsea team-mate to consider departing England Under-20s to represent instead the country of his parents' birth

John Obi Mikel has called upon Ola Aina to switch allegence from England to Nigeria after he impressed in pre-season and made his Chelsea debut against Bristol Rovers.

The 19-year-old has been named on the bench many times this term after signing a new deal with his club in the summer, and currently plays his international football in the England youth ranks.

The young full-back was born in London to Nigerian parents and Mikel admits that he rates his team-mate so highly that he would love to line up alongside him in the green and white of Nigeria.

"I keep asking him: 'When are you going to come and play for Nigeria?' and he jokes: 'Whenever you come and invite me I will play!" Mikel told Goal. "I think it is something that we would have to discuss.

"If he wants to play, we would have to speak to the federation and make sure that he really wants to play for Nigeria. If he is ready, we can talk about, but in the few times we have talked about it, he hasn’t given me a very positive, decisive answer to take back to the FA.

"I need a positive answer for me to take the case forward to the FA. We will see what happens."


Aina's performances stood out to the midfielder during Chelsea's pre-season tour of Austria and the United States, where the youngster made three starts and several substitute appearances to force his way into manager Antonio Conte's plans.

"Aina is a very, very good player," he added. "He has improved quite a lot after playing in a few friendly games and he played really, really well. I was quite impressed by his performances and it is only a matter of time before these kids break into the first team."

The 29-year-old Mikel is expected to start against Zambia as Nigeria attempt to qualify for the World Cup in Russia after missing out on the African Cup of Nations, which will be played out this winter.

http://m.goal.com/s/en-gb/news/2565/exclusive/2016/10/08/28280922/aina-should-swap-england-for-nigeria-mikel
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Am liking Mikel everyday, that's the world "He need to show he really wants to play for the Country". Mikel is becoming not just a captain bt a leader and ambassador to Nigeria football

danduj:
bros,sentiments apart,mikel is wack.Dude doesnt even make the bench anymore at chelsea

do yaya toure make the bench for man city, when mourinho came to Chelsea was mata making the bench, ws Pogba no wack when he first came to manU. People can just wake from sleep to type akpata

TheSuperNerd:
Then let's get started already....

Chess is a beautiful game. Your Brainpower and strategic thinking is tested again and again not even to mention its good effects on one's prefrontal cortex and other cortical areas of the brain.

I learn chess weekly and set aside time to improve regularly... You wanna grow really fast. Then don't be scared to take on "the best". You'll be humbled but you'll grow fast... Also add a few personal targets like studying Chess via the internet and much more.

And yep... Chess got some books you can look through too.

If you really want it... Then you've got to want it bad.

It's the same for all fields and endeavors in life... Just a re-emphasis... I trust you know this.

Please online Chess book, I love the game of Chess, I watch guys playing chess in my hostel back then in school, I learn by observation... I'll love to learn some combinations

Certitude:
sir joseph1013. I don't think anyone here is having any personal grudge against success. From what I have been reading here, everyone was happy he was finally called. My concern is how this act might affect him in future. Sometimes, this players need the national team more than how the National team needs them and will need to put up with those excesses. I feel success is comfortable for now. That is if there is any truth in the story.

well said, cos I wass wondering why would someone have grudge against Success, when no one spoke against his invitation to the National team, I personally want Success to get integrated fast into the team cos Oshimien-Iheanacho-Iwobi-Success & Nwakali will make the fulcrum of our golden generation. If any should "acted that way"(story might be false) I think it should be Iwobi.

That referee was a disaster, I believe she was following instruction from above. They are controversial calls in football but what I saw was not a controversial call bt daylight robbery. Did the ref blow for a fowl(on who) or an offside.