jidegirl12: Sagamite, I just can't wait till you finally marry and have your own kids , I'm willing to risk my identity to meet them then , your own na something else with your unborn children. I will be here inshallah 5years tops? Maybe?

You dey mind textbook daddy I bet nucca's gon' one of those soft touch daddies that's forever smothering their kids with wet kisses

naijababe:

You dey mind textbook daddy I bet nucca's gon' one of those soft touch daddies that's forever smothering their kids with wet kisses

Only when they are 2 to about 8 years old.

If they are older and they are too stubborn without showing sense? Hmmm.................

Sagamite:



Only when they are 2 to about 8 years old.

If they are older and they are too stubborn without showing sense? Hmmm.................

Yeah right! Angry smileys will do you a lot of good then

naijababe:

You dey mind textbook daddy I bet nucca's gon' one of those soft touch daddies that's forever smothering their kids with wet kisses

I dey watch now, sebi na jand he dey ? Okay now.
If I raise my hand up alone , my second child will faint for sure and she's the most troublesome among them all send her in timeout , she'll be shaking like a leaf. so I chose the time out punishment ( don't want any kid die in my watch), kids are not the same. But Sagamite thinks one size fits all.

jidegirl12:

I dey watch now, sebi na jand he dey ? Okay now.
If I raise my hand up alone , my second child will faint for sure and she's the most troublesome among them all send her in timeout , she'll be shaking like a leaf. so I chose the time out punishment ( don't want any kid die in my watch), kids are not the same. But Sagamite thinks one size fits all.

And this is the point. The odd smack keeps my daughter in shape but does nada for my 3 year old son that I have stopped. Dude is so headstrong it's beyond belief , na to enter praying and fasting to bind spirit of stubbornness now.

jidegirl12:

I dey watch now, sebi na jand he dey ? Okay now.
If I raise my hand up alone , my second child will faint for sure and she's the most troublesome among them all send her in timeout , she'll be shaking like a leaf. so I chose the time out punishment ( don't want any kid die in my watch), kids are not the same. But Sagamite thinks one size fits all.

Olodo rabata, oju eja lo mor je

Oni lo'we mor, silati lo ma lo

https://www.nairaland.com/1194195/best-way-correct-children/1#14300154

Sagamite:

Olodo rabata, oju eja lo mor je

Oni lowe mor, silati lo ma lo

https://www.nairaland.com/1194195/best-way-correct-children/1#14300154

Call me whatever , You know what I meant in that context. I dey wait for una leave story man.

@ naijababe, exactly what I'm talking about , she will turn purple sef,( very light skin) what will I say at the emergency? Nevertheless , I really still don't believe in smacking, what's the message really? they're animals / Africans? different from their peers when it comes to discipline?
I just don't get it.

The best way is the way which is most effective in producing the desired effect. That will depend on your own orientation/temperament, your child's temperament, age, upbringing and social environment, and other external factors.

I don't accept the odds of corporal punishment being superior to other methods - without controlling for the above factors - social environment, temperament, parenting skill, etc. There is little weight that can be placed against such a simplistic conclusion of one versus the other.

Many of those blithely saying 'the white people' don't even have any firsthand experience of how 'the white people' raise their kids and vice versa.

Even with all the 'kind' raising of kids, there are still more hooligans in Lagos than in most major 'white people' cities. Go figure.

debosky:
Even with all the 'kind' raising of kids, there are still more hooligans in Lagos than in most major 'white people' cities. Go figure.

No mind them.
Wonder why we raise brows and hell break whenever men hit women or vice versa ? Oh they're grown ups and kids are minors and that makes it okay ? I'm getting pissed off already.

debosky: The best way is the way which is most effective in producing the desired effect. That will depend on your own orientation/temperament, your child's temperament, age, upbringing and social environment, and other external factors.

I don't accept the odds of corporal punishment being superior to other methods - without controlling for the above factors - social environment, temperament, parenting skill, etc. There is little weight that can be placed against such a simplistic conclusion of one versus the other.

Many of those blithely saying 'the white people' don't even have any firsthand experience of how 'the white people' raise their kids and vice versa.

Even with all the 'kind' raising of kids, there are still more hooligans in Lagos than in most major 'white people' cities. Go figure.

Make I correct your perception.

What I said was:

Having the option of corporal punishment, being able to employ it and employing it at times generates superior outcomes on average than an approach that never sees corporal punishment as an option.

Not:

Using corporal punishment generates superior outcomes to no corporal punishment.



The hooligans in lagos are largely because of economic disadvantage, lack of local provisions of policing and reliable judicial systems.

If you are not monitored and made aware of consequences, you will behave as you wish.

If you cannot rely on the system (police and courts) to actively, fairly and efficiently handle your heated grievances with another person, you will handle it yourself ................with your fists especially where there is no consequence for doing such.

https://www.nairaland.com/1118061/buharis-first-daughter-zulai-dead/9#14263278

Sagamite:

The screaming would not kill him and it will leave a lasting and more effective impression of wrong-doing.

Neither will the screaming damage him for life.

But when a grown up screams from smacking we yell ABUSE? Sagamite watch it man.

jidegirl12:

But when a grown up screams from smacking we yell ABUSE? Sagamite watch it man.

Huh?

Do you even get the context of that gist before you commented on it?

Sagamite:

Make I correct your perception.

What I said was:

Having the option of corporal punishment, being able to employ it and employing it at times generates superior outcomes on average than an approach that never sees corporal punishment as an option.

Not:

Using corporal punishment generates superior outcomes to no corporal punishment.

Ok. Corporal punishment is still an option in many western societies isn't it?

The hooligans in lagos are largely because of economic disadvantage, lack of local provisions of policing and reliable judicial systems.

If you are not monitored and made aware of consequences, you will behave as you wish.

No arguments there, which goes back to my point about controlling for those external factors that may render a 'preferred' parenting style ineffective.

Sagamite:

Huh?

Do you even get the context of that gist before you commented on it?

You mean the mom screaming at her son for doing whatever? I know.
Fact that I mentioned 'smacking' in my post doesn't mean I didn't get the context
Just find it offensive screaming instead of talking to a child with expression.

debosky:

Ok. Corporal punishment is still an option in many western societies isn't it?

Not really.

Especially as the kids hit pubescence and considering an overly zealous, jobsworth, but-yet-powerful social services.

The law knocked it into a coma while pretending it is still there.

jidegirl12:

You mean the mom screaming at her son for doing whatever? I know.
Fact that I mentioned 'smacking' in my post doesn't mean I didn't get the context
Just find it offensive screaming instead of talking to a child with expression.

Sometimes screaming might be expedient and just the apt tool.

It is not everytime you use it but it is not a crime to use it, it will not kill the child or damage the child.

Funky people tend to throw a lot of guttural "facts" which have little-to-no basis and which really does not stand up to easy tests.

There will be times I will shout on my kids. There will be times I will sit down and use persuasion based on my assessment of need and effect.

For someone to tell me I need to be funky and only talk all the time is what I find a joke. I am not funky. Mo funky rara.

Okay. Mo funky gon! Infact I'm the funkiest momma
We shall see when those kids are here

I am an intellectual genius.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21665319

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21654738

My prescience and analytical capabilities is really in the realm of Gods.

Sagamite:
If you cannot rely on the system (police and courts) to actively, fairly and efficiently handle your heated grievances with another person, you will handle it yourself ................with your fists especially where there is no consequence for doing such.

https://www.nairaland.com/1118061/buharis-first-daughter-zulai-dead/9#14263278

Sagamite: I am an intellectual genius.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21665319

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21654738

My prescience and analytical capabilities is really in the realm of Gods.

MUMU. After exposing your WACK intellectual genius in the previous thread, you ran away and still came here to boast.

Blackteeth:
MUMU. After exposing your WACK intellectual genius in the previous thread, you ran away and still came here to boast.

You are a person!

I love your foolhardiness. It makes me feel less guilty of torturing the mentally challenged when cutting and dicing you.

Cretin open a thread on the selecting leaders is easy and let me slaughter you.

Inform me of the thread when you do. DON'T RUN!

Sagamite:

You are a person!

I love your foolhardiness. It makes me feel less guilty of torturing the mentally challenged when cutting and dicing you.

Cretin open a thread on the selecting leaders is easy and let me slaughter you.

Inform me of the thread when you do. DON'T RUN!

FOOL. Why didnt you slaughter me in the other thread or better still do it here, and now you are looking for a fresh thread to spill your nonsense fake intellectuals. What a lame excuse!!!. If am a person then you must be a FULL person >>>>>> FOOLFUCKTARD.

Blackteeth:
FOOL. Why didnt you slaughter me in the other thread or better still do it here, and now you are looking for a fresh thread to spill your nonsense fake intellectuals. What a lame excuse!!!. If am a person then you must be a FULL person >>>>>> FOOLFUCKTARD.

You are a person!

Go and open a new thread, let me continue and finish the slaughtering there. Don't be derailing threads and have my intellectual posts educating you be deleted.

I am also wicked enough to make sure when I clump fucktards like you, I leave a lasting trail to permanently terrorise you like this:

https://www.nairaland.com/584507/every-human-being-almost-equally

That is how I slaughter your moronic, dumb arsse. Let me slice and dice you a bit more to reinforce the knowledge I gave you that you are dumb. You finally realise it.

Pussyclat, open a new thread and let me enjoy myself slaughtering you.

Sagamite:

You are a person!

Go and open a new thread, let me continue and finish the slaughtering there. Don't be derailing threads and have my intellectual posts educating you be deleted.

I am also wicked enough to make sure when I clump fucktards like you, I leave a lasting trail to permanently terrorise you like this:

https://www.nairaland.com/584507/every-human-being-almost-equally

That is how I slaughter your moronic, dumb arsse. Let me slice and dice you a bit more to reinforce the knowledge I gave you that you are dumb. You finally realise it.

Pussyclat, open a new thread and let me enjoy myself slaughtering you.

lol. Why do you keep going back to that first clash we had after you failed to prove me wrong? You are crazy!!!
Alright, I will take up your challenge to open the new thread and I shall see what you are boasting about to slaughter me.
I will open the thread. When am through I will post the link here for you to move in your stinky arse and prove yourself by slaughtering me. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, DO NOT USE OBSCENE WORDS AS A TOUT THAT YOU ARE, OR ELSE THE MODS WILL CLOSE THE THREAD OR HIDE YOUR POSTS.

Blackteeth:
lol. Why do you keep going back to that first clash we had after you failed to prove me wrong? You are crazy!!!
Alright, I will take up your challenge to open the new thread and I shall see what you are boasting about to slaughter me.
I will open the thread. When am through I will post the link here for you to move in your stinky arse and prove yourself by slaughtering me. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, DO NOT USE OBSCENE WORDS AS A TOUT THAT YOU ARE, OR ELSE THE MODS WILL CLOSE THE THREAD OR HIDE YOUR POSTS.

person, please make my day.

Sagamite:

person, please make my day.

Here is the thread you want. I await my slaughtering since you want blood.
https://www.nairaland.com/1215874/dumb-people-should-not-allowed#14615330