Ihedinobi: ^^ "Anything that can be falsified seizes (sic) to become the truth anymore"? Astounding!

Logicboy03:




THE LOGIC IS NOT SOUND. NO PAST, NO MEMORIES, NO REASONING, NO THOUGHTS.

musKeeto:
Lol, actually, it's... If he's outside time.. It's just like holding a movie in your hand.. you know everything that goes on in the movie.. But the characters in the movie would still have a past, present, and future depending on the storyline.
But all that's in your palm, and your brain too.. you're outside their world, yet you know everything that goes on in their world. Of course, this doesn't resolve the omniscient-freewill conundrum.

Logicboy03:
The movie in my palm is playing but I have seen it and I know everything that is going to happen.

Logicboy03:
Does that change the fact I can pause the film and then remember that i paused it at a particular point?

ooman:

Dumb xtians. The reason why anything will be falsified is because it was believed to be the truth, which it really isn't.

Mazaje made perfect sense but it was too great for you to comprehend because it destroys your self made up god.

Ihedinobi: @Ube

I've never read Augustine but he's one of the old-timers I have huge respect for.



I'd hate to use banter to spoil the thread and beyond this reply, I don't intend to say more.

Mazaje's logic is the same as this: any currency that can be forged ceases to be genuine.

You decide how sensible that is to you.

musKeeto:
Alright.


If you 'know' how a film starts and ends, why would you have to pause it?

Logicboy03:



Seniously? Why are you watching it in the first place?

Secondly, have u never ever paused a film that u have watched before?

musKeeto:


Let's follow logic. Once something is said to be outside time, you can't attribute past, present, future.. to it.. All those terms fall within the boundary of time. Once something is timeless, then it's beyond the scope of these terms.

It doesn't change the fact that this is all ABSTRACT BULLSHIT in my opinion. but, sense e make small...

musKeeto:


Let's follow logic. Once something is said to be outside time, you can't attribute past, present, future.. to it.. All those terms fall within the boundary of time. Once something is timeless, then it's beyond the scope of these terms.

It doesn't change the fact that this is all ABSTRACT BULLSHIT in my opinion. but, sense e make small...

cyrexx: And it shall come to pass in those days, the spirit of davidylan shall fully enter Ihedinobi, while being cheerled on by ishilove, and he shall open his mouth wide and say "Raca" to whoever does not agree with his views. the soldier of christ will then begin to fight his battles physically, like the moslems, since S.W.A.T (spiritual war and tactics) is not yielding any results.

but no problem, Yahweh can easily be appeased with repentance and you can get away with virtually any sin if you are "smart" enough to "repent" at the right time. so there is no consequence of disobeying his word that says you should not call people fools.

onward, Ihedinobi, the newly evolved chrisian soldier.

let the abrasive languages continue on these godforsaken hellbound unbelievers.

Yahweh is proud of you, his fighting kid, as you are helping him fight his battles, just like Allah is proud of them muslims.

plaetton:
But yes, Imagine owning an entire universe all to yourself, and then fretting over the attention of puny humans. Its comparable to an emperor having a low self-esteem because the bacteria in his faeces are not giving him enough attention.

Mr_Anony:
God is omnipotent creator and we can't question His purposes simply because to do that, we have to have just as much knowledge and power as He has i.e. to judge God, we must be equal to or greater than God. A chicken cannot judge your morality over why you chose to kill one chicken for dinner and leave the other. It is only a fellow man or a greater being that qualifies to judge your choice of dinner

Purist:
Unlike God, I don't profess undying love for chickens.

alfaman2: Allah doesn't understand english.

PhenomenonVFX:

which scientists in ur village discovered star clusters older than the universe? U better some credible evidence (not some religious site) or forever shut ur gob.

ooman: ^^^the guy's comments were so irritating that I refused to quote him.

plaetton:

Yeah. By the same logic, if god is seperate from creation, as most theists would claim, then, god does not exist in creation, as all atheists claim.
It is funny that , in this case, both theists and atheists agree on the same logic, but disagree on the implication.

ooman:

Plaetton, you are simply great by this comment.

Can you allow me to reuse it, then maybe open another thread so that we can discuss this?? or you can do it

hisblud: Hmm, I thought you and your cohorts have the time in the world to research on anything and everything religious and make up your mind? I bet its more than just familiar but fear . Christians are standing up in the above countries - iran and saudi - and quite much have sufferred yet with joy, so also have muslims too in western countries as well...but am yet to see an athiest stand up in iran or saudi for his/her non conviction, except you can educate me on one, rather they prefer liberal and open nations to mock... hence what ravi was pointing out...

wiegraf:



Look at what you did, billy-goat-naire, you've made a theist appear reasonable. On the other topic you have around here, you even made a muslim look good. Are you happy with yourself now? At least this theist asked a question no atheist would ask, as the answer would appear obvious to any of us, thereby proving our supeririar logicah reasoning skills. So, to answer the bold @inspired, it's because he's a billionare in zimbawean currency. You could check if you're a billionaire in ZWD as well by going to... would you look at that, the currency has been suspended. Anyhoo, the rate used to be 1USD = 80,000 – 300,000,000,000,000 ZWD. Not saying your moniker is a lie mind you, just showing you how his isn't.

Yes, I don't particularly consider you a theist per se, hence my need to separate you from the average theist. I think of you as something else trying to fleece sheeple. Can't say you're a wolf in sheep skin though, the pic below would better describe how I see you. Consider this is going by your terms, ie, assuming I'm a goat, so there are goats in this hypothetical universe we're using for analogies. There are wolves as well, and sheeple are sheep, etc. The second pic demonstrates what I think your objectives are.

So, back to my questions. A small demonstration of your awesome surely cannot hurt, no? You know, like tell me what am I thinking of right now? Or melt my brains so I 'back off'. Or tell me what I'll be having for breakfast tomorrow, you're always welcome to teleport and observe. You can pick the location of course.

Billyonaire: Congratulations, you have been promoted to Kindergarten cos of an IQ less than 17% of a 2yrs old.

Reyginus: www.nairaland.com/1271765/why-dont-muslims-pray-english

vedaxcool:

The above quuote shows for a christian you are extremely daft to a fault that the term animal stupidity seems more of a glorifcation than an insult!

vedaxcool: Personally I have a certain respect for TB Joshua, if not for anything, that fact that he takes care of the poor makes him a reality in our policy . . . as for mosquito, don't mind him, most atheist do not know serious minded people intending to make Africa light at night, would use common sense in posting their ideas on how to make this happen in the science and technology section of NL not at the religion forum, where people who are interested in spiritual matter come to discourse . . . Nigeria seems destined to produce paradox, somehow, religion is suppose to produce Light at night and science is suppose to show the way to heaven . . . atheist I dey hail unah wisdom

obadiah777: WELL I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AS A SIDE ISSUE ON A THREAD BUT JUST THOUGHT IT WAS BIG ENOUGH TO DESERVE ITS OWN THREAD AS WELL AS TO CONFOUND GAINSAYING PHARISEES LIKE BOOKMARK AND DESIKA AS TO THE METAPHORICAL NATURE OF THE BIBLE. IN THIS THREAD I WILL DISCUSS AS WELL AS THE WALKING ON WATER ISSUE, THE REAL MEANING OF WHAT BAPTISM IS, AS WELL AS REITERATE WHAT FASTING REALLY IS. SO 3 ISSUES, 3 FALLACIES OF CHRISTIANS, 3 ERRORS OF CHRISTIANS.

ISSUE 1 - DID JESUS WALK ON WATER LITERALLY ? WHAT KINDA MAGIC TRICK IS THAT ? IS THAT WHAT THE BIBLE IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT ? NO IT IS NOT. WHAT IS WATERS ? LETS GO PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT
REVELATION 17 VS 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the LovePeddler sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. WATERS IS A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLES. SO THE WAVES WERE ROUGH AND ERRATIC MEANING THE PEOPLES HE WAS PREACHING TO WERE REPROBATE BELLIGERENT ROWDY SCOFFERS, HOWEVER HE WALKED OVER THE WATERS, HE CALMED THE WATERS, MEANING HE PREVAILED OVER THE PEOPLE AND CONVINCED THE GAINSAYERS AND SCOFFERS. HE WALKED OVER THEM. HE PREVAILED OVER THEM. HE CONVERTED THEM ALL. AND THATS WHAT THAT MEANS. HE AINT LITERALLY WALK OVER WATER. HE IS THE LORD BUT HE DONT DO CHEAP MAGIC TRICKS.

ISSUE 2- ALL THESE REPROBATE PASTORS DIPPING PEOPLE IN WATER THINKING THEY ARE BAPTIZING THEM DONE LOST THEY MINDS. JUST THE OTHER DAY ONE OF THEM MANAGED TO DROWN HIMSELF IN HIS BAPTISMAL WATER. THESE FOLKS IS CRAZY. SO WHAT EXACTLY DOES BAPTISM IN WATER MEAN ? 'WATER' IN THE SINGULAR IS A BIBLICAL WORD FOR 'DOCTRINE'. WHAT DOCTRINE ? IN THIS CASE THE WORD, THE BIBLE. SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BAPTIZE WITH WATER ? LETS LET THE DICTIONARY DO THE REST OF THE JOB FOR US
bap·tize (bp-tz, bptz)
v. bap·tized, bap·tiz·ing, bap·tiz·es
b. To initiate.

TO INITIATE ? WHAT DOES TO INITIATE MEAN ?
in·i·ti·ate (-nsh-t)
tr.v. in·i·ti·at·ed, in·i·ti·at·ing, in·i·ti·ates
a. Instructed in esoteric knowledge.

WHAT IS ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGE ?
es·o·ter·ic [es-uh-ter-ik] Show IPA
adjective
understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest; recondite:
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT, TO BE BAPTIZED MEANS TO BE TAUGHT SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE WHICH IS MEANT FOR A SELECT FEW AND TO BE BAPTIZED WITH WATER MEANS TO BE TAUGHT THE SCRIPTURES. AINT GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH DIPPING FOLK IN LITERAL WATER.

ooman:

Dumb xtians. The reason why anything will be falsified is because it was believed to be the truth, which it really isn't.

Mazaje made perfect sense but it was too great for you to comprehend because it destroys your self made up god.

2cassava sticks:
Do you really understand the meaning of falsification? Idiocy is a bad thing oh!

Reyginus: Bro, please don't start a fight here.
Stick with Post 0.

Reyginus: What theory this man can come up with...smhhttp://www.nairaland.com/1285942/did-jesus-really-walk-water