obadiah777: I AM INTERPRETING THE VERSE TO YOU IN LAY MANS TERMS. SOMETHING A SIMPLE-TON LIKE YOURSELF CAN UNDERSTAND

ive seen ur likes in psycho ward b4, neatly dressed but very insane.

Goshen360:

The truth is, we are all subject to one another to check mate ourselves in the things we teach. If you believe I've said anything wrong in the past, I'm subject to correction NOT claiming I know it all. The purpose of this thread is to call Obadiah777 to correction and let's reason scriptures together.

When I said what I said then, I was scrutinized by the brethren and even you, if my teachings can't stand the scriptural scrutiny of our believers, then I make myself LORD OF ALL and that's not what Christ called us to do. Please, allow Obadiah777 to answer to scrutiny of our believers, the same way you followed to scrutinize me then. And, I do not claim to know it all, don't misunderstand me. Thank you.

I have wirnessed how you people reason out the bible. You only condone anyone who accepts your doctrine. Obadiah insisted on what he is teaching and the next thing is this thread calling his teachings occultic.

OK I JUST READ THE VERSE IN QUESTION. SHE HAS A MAN WHO SHE HAS NOT MARRIED YET. IN JEWISH TRADITION YOU DO THE MARRIAGE CEREMONY AND THEN TAKE THE WOMAN IN YOUR HOUSE, SLEEP WITH HER ON A WHITE SHEET. IF THERE IS NO BLOOD ON THE SHEET, SHE IS NOT A VIRGIN AND WILL BE CAST OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND HER FAMILY WOULD BE DISGRACED. HOWEVER THE SPIRIT CAME ON THEM BOTH TO MAKE LOVE AND THEY DID IT BEFORE THE CEREMONY. SO THEY HAD S-E-X BEFORE THE ACTUAL CEREMONY
LUKE 1 VS 26 - 36

SO SHE IS UNWED. SHE IS NOT MARRIED. SHE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING S-E-X YET.

obadiah777: I KNOW NOT A MAN MEANS I DONT HAVE A MAN.

Okay, that's other translations for you. I will do word study on KJV. First from Old Testament,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

New International Version (©2011)
Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."

New Living Translation (©2007)
Adam had se.xual relations with his wife again, and she gave birth to another son. She named him Seth, for she said, "God has granted me another son in place of Abel, whom Cain killed."

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Adam was intimate with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, for she said, "God has given me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."

NET Bible (©2006)
And Adam had marital relations with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son. She named him Seth, saying, "God has given me another child in place of Abel because Cain killed him."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Adam made love to his wife again. She gave birth to a son and named him Seth, because [she said,] "God has given me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."

Genesis 4:25

To 'know' between a man and a woman in KJV language is SE.XUAL INTERCOURSE. Here is word meaning in Bible concordance:

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? Luke 1:34

The Greek word, ginōskō and means the following from here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1097&t=KJV

1) to learn to know, come to know, get a knowledge of perceive, feel
a) to become known

2) to know, understand, perceive, have knowledge of
a) to understand
b) to know

3) Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse between a man and a woman

4) to become acquainted with, to know

obadiah777: LISTEN HERE THE PRIZE IS BIGGER THAN YOUR EGO. KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE PRIZE BRAH GOSHEN. DONT LET YOUR EGO ROB YOU OFF THE PRIZE.

ANY FOLKS WHO ARE NOT WED BUT HAVE SE-X WOULD BE CALLED VIRGINS IN ANCIENT TIME. VIRGIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH S-E-X. ITS A MUTATION OF THE MEANING OF WORDS OVER TIME THAT HAS ASCRIBED IT TO S-E-X. VIRGIN IS AN UNMARRIED MAID.

Really?

Would u accept another definition of virgin, in Biblical terms, is one even though married, has not had se.x? Because if we accept ur definition, it would clearly contradict the passage Christembassy posted. Luke 1.34

Goshen360:

26Six months after Elizabeth had become pregnant, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a city in Galilee. 27The angel went to a virgin promised in marriage to a descendant of David named Joseph. The virgin's name was Mary. 28When the angel entered her home, he greeted her and said, "You are favored by the Lord! The Lord is with you." 29She was startled by what the angel said and tried to figure out what this greeting meant. 30The angel told her, "Don't be afraid, Mary. You have found favor with God. 31You will become pregnant, give birth to a son, and name him Jesus. 32He will be a great man and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David. 33Your son will be king of Jacob's people forever, and his kingdom will never end." 34Mary asked the angel, "How can this be? I've never had se.xual intercourse." 35The angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come to you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore, the holy child developing inside you will be called the Son of God. 36"Elizabeth, your relative, is six months pregnant with a son in her old age. People said she couldn't have a child. 37But nothing is impossible for God." 38Mary answered, "I am the Lord's servant. Let everything you've said happen to me." Then the angel left her. Luke 1 >> GOD'S WORD ® Translation

God bless u sir, this translation doesnt need interpretation. This has closed the mouth of obadia, if he dares open his mouth, its certain, i was correct about his sanity or satanic origin.

@ All,

I have to go to work now. I will continue if I can....from my phone. If not, I will continue when I return. Thank you all.

Boomark:

Goshen is still right because both unwed and the normal virgin girl still applies here. That is why Joseph thought or said, "I Didn't Do It" and wanted to send her away quietly.

WANTED TO SEND HER AWAY QUIETLY CUZ HE GOT MOVED BY THE SPIRIT TO DO IT BEFORE THE CEREMONY. SO WHEN ALL THE ELDERS ARE OUTSIDE AFTER THE CEREMONY WAITING FOR THE WHITE BEDSHEET TO BE RED, IT WILL NOT BE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY DID IT. SO HE WANTED TO SAVE HER EMBARRASSMENT

christemmbassey: God bless u sir, this translation doesnt need interpretation. This has closed the mouth of obadia, if he dares open his mouth, its certain, i was correct about his sanity or satanic origin.

i expect every member of Hateism to accept the teachings of their infallible leader without question.

christemmbassey: ive seen ur likes in psycho ward b4, neatly dressed but very insane.

HEY IT TAKES ALL SORTS TO POPULATE THE WORLD

Goshen360: @ All,

I have to go to work now. I will continue if I can....from my phone. If not, I will continue when I return. Thank you all.

All riiiiiiise!!! The pope is leaving!

Goshen360:

Okay, that's other translations for you. I will do word study on KJV. First from Old Testament,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

New International Version (©2011)
Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."

New Living Translation (©2007)
Adam had se.xual relations with his wife again, and she gave birth to another son. She named him Seth, for she said, "God has granted me another son in place of Abel, whom Cain killed."

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Adam was intimate with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, for she said, "God has given me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."

NET Bible (©2006)
And Adam had marital relations with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son. She named him Seth, saying, "God has given me another child in place of Abel because Cain killed him."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Adam made love to his wife again. She gave birth to a son and named him Seth, because [she said,] "God has given me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."

Genesis 4:25

To 'know' between a man and a woman in KJV language is SE.XUAL INTERCOURSE. Here is word meaning in Bible concordance:

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? Luke 1:34

The Greek word, ginōskō and means the following from here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1097&t=KJV

1) to learn to know, come to know, get a knowledge of perceive, feel
a) to become known

2) to know, understand, perceive, have knowledge of
a) to understand
b) to know

3) Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse between a man and a woman

4) to become acquainted with, to know

OK I JUST READ THE VERSE IN QUESTION. SHE HAS A MAN WHO SHE HAS NOT MARRIED YET. IN JEWISH TRADITION YOU DO THE MARRIAGE CEREMONY AND THEN TAKE THE WOMAN IN YOUR HOUSE, SLEEP WITH HER ON A WHITE SHEET. IF THERE IS NO BLOOD ON THE SHEET, SHE IS NOT A VIRGIN AND WILL BE CAST OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND HER FAMILY WOULD BE DISGRACED. HOWEVER THE SPIRIT CAME ON THEM BOTH TO MAKE LOVE AND THEY DID IT BEFORE THE CEREMONY. SO THEY HAD S-E-X BEFORE THE ACTUAL CEREMONY
LUKE 1 VS 26 - 36

SO SHE IS UNWED. SHE IS A VIRGIN. SHE IS NOT MARRIED. SHE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING S-E-X YET. SHE IS A VIRGIN. HOWEVER SHE SLEPT WITH HIM BEFORE THEY GOT MARRIED. HENCE WHY JOSEPH WAS CONCERNED. EASY EXPLANATION.

Calculus12:

You rebuked him cause you are a loyal slave of Hateism and you don't want Pope Goshen to send cardinal Hate (frosbel) after you.

I think i already know what hate means. If you are a catholic, i have a thread "Hidden truth about catholic..." where you should be. Reading, watching, memorizing and meditating on the truth i uncovered in both video and bible quote.

But wait o! You look like pharisee obadiah's disciple. I will be watching you with a stethoscope hensfot.


*Dr Eng Boomark*

doofanc:

Really?

Would u accept another definition of virgin, in Biblical terms, is one even though married, has not had se.x? Because if we accept ur definition, it would clearly contradict the passage Christembassy posted. Luke 1.34

IF YOU ARE MARRIED THEN YOU ARE NOT A VIRGIN. HOWEVER SHE WAS NOT MARRIED. JOSEPH WAS HER BOYFRIEND. NO CONTRADICTION THERE. NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN. PEOPLE HAVE BOYFRIENDS TODAY. SO ALSO IN ANCIENT TIMES. HOWEVER THE RULES WERE STRICTER. YOU COULDNT SLEEP WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT BEDSHEET FULL OF BLOOD TO PROVE VIRGINITY AFTER MARRIAGE

Boomark:

I think i already know what hate means. If you are a catholic, i have a thread "Hidden truth about catholic..." where you should be. Reading, watching, memorizing and meditating on the truth i uncovered in both video and bible quote.

But wait o! You look like pharisee obadiah's disciple. I will be watching you with a stethoscope hensfot.


*Dr Eng Boomark*

i don't have time for baby Hateist; when your pope comes back let me know!

obadiah777: OK I JUST READ THE VERSE IN QUESTION. SHE HAS A MAN WHO SHE HAS NOT MARRIED YET. IN JEWISH TRADITION YOU DO THE MARRIAGE CEREMONY AND THEN TAKE THE WOMAN IN YOUR HOUSE, SLEEP WITH HER ON A WHITE SHEET. IF THERE IS NO BLOOD ON THE SHEET, SHE IS NOT A VIRGIN AND WILL BE CAST OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND HER FAMILY WOULD BE DISGRACED. HOWEVER THE SPIRIT CAME ON THEM BOTH TO MAKE LOVE AND THEY DID IT BEFORE THE CEREMONY. SO THEY HAD S-E-X BEFORE THE ACTUAL CEREMONY
LUKE 1 VS 26 - 36

so y then did joseph planed to put her away ? Matt 1:19-25. @Goshen, pls give us the above verses again. God bless

image123 masquerading as Calculus12

frosbel: image123 masquerading as Calculus12

Cardinal Hate are u still here? i thought where u find d pope of Hateism, there is the cardinal for the propagation of Hateism?

Calculus12:

Cardinal Hate are u still here? i thought where u find d pope of Hateism, there is the cardinal for the propagation of Hateism?

Why are you afraid of using your real ID ?

How was the sermon on tithes and offerings today , did you sow seed

christemmbassey: so y then did joseph planed to put her away ? Matt 1:19-25. @Goshen, pls give us the above verses again. God bless

Pope Goshen has gone for his siesta.

obadiah777: BOOKMARK THE COMEDIAN.

We are waiting for answers.

es·pouse (-spouz)
tr.v. es·poused, es·pous·ing, es·pous·es
1.


2. To give one's loyalty or support to (a cause, for example); adopt. SO ESPOUSE MEANS TO GIVE LOYALTY TO. LIKE ' WE WOULD GET MARRIED' LIKE AN ENGAGEMENT

frosbel:

Why are you afraid of using your real ID ?

How was the sermon on tithes and offerings today , did you sow seed

Cardinal hate didn't know u r interested in tithes and offerings. Since d pope is gone, i will make do with u.

Calculus12:

Cardinal hate didn't know u r interested in tithes and offerings. Since d pope is gone, i will make do with u.

I was Pope and now Cardinal

make up your mind !!

Calculus12:

i expect every member of Hateism to accept the teachings of their infallible leader without question.

pls bro if u have anything sensible to say, pls avail urself with bible verse to prof ur points, stop this lazy and empty interjections. If u have any carry over from other threads, its nobody fault that u couldnt prove urself. Thank u.

christemmbassey: so y then did joseph planed to put her away ? Matt 1:19-25. @Goshen, pls give us the above verses again. God bless

AS SOON AS HE SLEPT WITH HER, SHE BECAME HIS WIFE. EVEN THOUGH THE CEREMONY HAD NOT BEEN DONE. S-E-X IS MARRIAGE IN ANCIENT HEBREW TRADITION

GENESIS 24 VS 67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

<<<< ONCE YOU SLEEP WITH SOMEONE THATS IT. YOU ARE MARRIED TO THEM. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A SITUATION WHERE SHE BECAME PREGNANT SO SHE IS HIS WIFE NOW BUT HE IS SCARED CUZ THEY HAVENT DONE THE CEREMONY AND NOBODY KNOWS SO HE WANTS TO GET RID OF HER. SAME THING PEOPLE DO TODAY. GET A WOMAN PREGNANT AND PANICK AND TRY TO RUN AWAY. NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN

christemmbassey: pls bro if u have anything sensible to say, pls avail urself with bible verse to prof ur points, stop this lazy and empty interjections. If u have any carry over from other threads, its nobody fault that u couldnt prove urself. Thank u.

Special attribute of Image123, he normally does not have a coherent argument to bring to the table , than to misquote scripture and spread the poison of tithes and prosperity gospel..

frosbel:

I was Pope and now Cardinal

make up your mind !!

Your religion of Hateism is occultic and secretive. I figured out the heirachy when Pope Goshen was ordering you about and considering that he is the infallible teacher, he just has to be pope. You only copy and paste, you don't teach but bully people around.

obadiah777: SCRIPTURE SAYS ' I COME IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK'. NOT JUST THE NEW TESTAMENT. AND BESIDES PAUL IS A PROPHET UNTO THE GENTILES. PAUL IS THE GREATEST PROPHET OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. BUT THATS ABOUT IT. DANIEL, ISAIAH, OBADIAH, JOEL, ZECHARIAH, ZEPHANIAH, NAHUM, HAGGAI, JEREMIAH, MOSES, HABBAKUK, JOB, HAD MORE POIGNANT PROPHETIC SCRIPTURES

You are dodging the point, who reveals secrets to all these men?

christemmbassey: pls bro if u have anything sensible to say, pls avail urself with bible verse to prof ur points, stop this lazy and empty interjections. If u have any carry over from other threads, its nobody fault that u couldnt prove urself. Thank u.

Baby Hateist didn't i say that i can't play with u? When ur pope comes let me know.

Bidam: You are dodging the point, who reveals secrets to all these men?

WHO REVEALS SECRET TO THEM ? THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM

obadiah777: AS SOON AS HE SLEPT WITH HER, SHE BECAME HIS WIFE. EVEN THOUGH THE CEREMONY HAD NOT BEEN DONE. S-E-X IS MARRIAGE IN ANCIENT HEBREW TRADITION

GENESIS 24 VS 67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

<<<< ONCE YOU SLEEP WITH SOMEONE THATS IT. YOU ARE MARRIED TO THEM. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A SITUATION WHERE SHE BECAME PREGNANT SO SHE IS HIS WIFE NOW BUT HE IS SCARED CUZ THEY HAVENT DONE THE CEREMONY AND NOBODY KNOWS SO HE WANTS TO GET RID OF HER. SAME THING PEOPLE DO TODAY. GET A WOMAN PREGNANT AND PANICK AND TRY TO RUN AWAY. NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN

ur condition is worst than i thought. It a shame.