kettykin:

Should the Nigerian Army be selective in their approach to the Wars they fight , the same Nigerian Army lost more than 200000 soldiers in the Nigerian Civil war in 1967 preferring to use sabotage of farm lands and bombing of civilian targets targets rather than pure professional military engagement to win a war this was despite heavy foreign support of Soviet union, Arab world and Britain.
These are the same people who signed off a part of Nigeria to win a war!.

i am simply suggesting amnesty as a decoy for GEJ government so that he can handle tangible developmental projects rather than being distracted by frustrated and ambition less political jobbers in the North and south west who see the presidency as their only hope .

mens dept:

This shows that you are a fool. If your mother that carried you in the womb for 40 weeks was a victim of Boko Haram, then we should give her killer, and those protecting them your money right?

There's a reason to have service chiefs, which ARE political appointments. They are to advice the president and carry out operations of security. They are acting very much in their capacity and have so far fought against any stupid amnesty for criminals.

Now MEND, MASSOB, OPC, and all new groups can and should demand the same thing, and we'll see that Lord Lugard's cage would have finally expired a century exactly later.

The Northerners already receieve the bulk of state allocations, federal projects, political appointments, senators, ambassadors, and countless other perks, and instead of stripping the governors who refuse to develop their states allocation, they want to take from the poor and give to these clowns even more loot.

And befor eyou know it, this amnesty will buy even better bombs from Iran to use at UNILAG abi Moshood Abiola Uniy.

Chubhie: Within the scope and bounds of this thread we both seem to agree that amnesty is a step in the right direction at this present moment. The issue of North and southwest who see the presidency as their only hope according to you is a debate beyond the scope of this thread.

Chubhie: Within the scope and bounds of this thread we both seem to agree that amnesty is a step in the right direction at this present moment. The issue of North and southwest who see the presidency as their only hope according to you is a debate beyond the scope of this thread.

kettykin:

whether Amnesty is the right step or not , whether it is amnesty with Stipends or without Stipends is the question now and who should provide the Stipends the Northern State Governments would have to provide the stipends just the same way other States are tackling miscreants in their Zones if the Federal Government Provides the stipends then that is the beginning of the End of Nigeria.

eggheaders: uncle gej i hail ooo.indecision wan finish this goat.I ban super eagles,I no ban them again.na mend do independent day bombing,no be mend.I change unilag to maulag, i no change again.I can't grant ghost amnesty, I will grant them again.what sort of low life shyte scumbag did we vote has president. even my pet rabbit is more decisive than this cloned orangutan.

eggheaders: uncle gej i hail ooo.indecision wan finish this goat.I ban super eagles,I no ban them again.na mend do independent day bombing,no be mend.I change unilag to maulag, i no change again.I can't grant ghost amnesty, I will grant them again.what sort of low life shyte scumbag did we vote has president. even my pet rabbit is more decisive than this cloned orangutan.

Ngwakwe: If democracy is the government of, by and for the people, I see no reason why the President shouldn't try to reconcile his decisions with that of majority opinion.

Remember, he is a politician and is still eyeing for a second term mandate from the same people he refuses their opinions.

Even God in the bible ask humans to come and reason with him, and in another verse God said, present your strong reasons.

My conclusion is, apart from the portion I deleted from your text, GEJ or any leader in a democratic setting should not be autocratic rather a listening leader.

Ngwakwe: If democracy is the government of, by and for the people, I see no reason why the President shouldn't try to reconcile his decisions with that of majority opinion.

Remember, he is a politician and is still eyeing for a second term mandate from the same people he refuses their opinions.

Even God in the bible ask humans to come and reason with him, and in another verse God said, present your strong reasons.

My conclusion is, apart from the portion I deleted from your text, GEJ or any leader in a democratic setting should not be autocratic rather a listening leader.

Sincere 9gerian: Typical of SR. Is this not the same SR that has been the mouth piece of Boko haram all the while? SR is the NUMBER ONE propagator of the activities of Boko haram.

Since the Boko haram mayhem started, no suggestion of possible ways of ending the crisis has emanated from SR. Not even one. All we read is criticisms of any strategy adopted by govt.

The conclusion that can be drawn from the attitude of SR is that they want the crisis to continue. SR is profiting from the crisis.

Even if the president had said no to amnesty to Boko haram and 99% of leaders from that region are suggesting amnesty as the way forward, it is only wise and sensible for the president to give amnesty a try. Otherwise, leaders from that region would accuse the president of being insensitive.

Again, if the leaders of the north are clamouring for amnesty, and the govt bends backwards to consider amnesty, the onus will be on the leaders in the north to persuade Boko haram members to come out from hiding and embrace amnesty.

And Why should military chiefs be enraged over amnesty? I'm sure the foot solders that die daily in this conflict wouldn't mind amnesty if that will bring peace.

Though, I'm skeptical about whether or not Boko haram will accept amnesty and peace but the leaders of the north know better. In any case, if the govt eventually grants amnesty and certain elements of Boko haram remain recalcitrant, then the president would be justified in using maximum force.

However, the security forces should be very vigilant even if the govt goes ahead to offer amnesty. This is to avoid the sect re-grouping within the period.

But my attitude has always been, if amnesty will bring relative peace and allow us to move on as a country, why not?

Sincere 9gerian: Typical of SR. Is this not the same SR that has been the mouth piece of Boko haram all the while? SR is the NUMBER ONE propagator of the activities of Boko haram.

Since the Boko haram mayhem started, no suggestion of possible ways of ending the crisis has emanated from SR. Not even one. All we read is criticisms of any strategy adopted by govt.

The conclusion that can be drawn from the attitude of SR is that they want the crisis to continue. SR is profiting from the crisis.

Even if the president had said no to amnesty to Boko haram and 99% of leaders from that region are suggesting amnesty as the way forward, it is only wise and sensible for the president to give amnesty a try. Otherwise, leaders from that region would accuse the president of being insensitive.

Again, if the leaders of the north are clamouring for amnesty, and the govt bends backwards to consider amnesty, the onus will be on the leaders in the north to persuade Boko haram members to come out from hiding and embrace amnesty.

And Why should military chiefs be enraged over amnesty? I'm sure the foot solders that die daily in this conflict wouldn't mind amnesty if that will bring peace.

Though, I'm skeptical about whether or not Boko haram will accept amnesty and peace but the leaders of the north know better. In any case, if the govt eventually grants amnesty and certain elements of Boko haram remain recalcitrant, then the president would be justified in using maximum force.

However, the security forces should be very vigilant even if the govt goes ahead to offer amnesty. This is to avoid the sect re-grouping within the period.

But my attitude has always been, if amnesty will bring relative peace and allow us to move on as a country, why not?

Ngwakwe:
Let's try Nigerian formula, remember amnesty was granted to Kidnappers in Abia State on a certain condition which the Kidnapper broke before JTF was then fully mobilized to crush them without mercy.

kettykin: Amnesty with stipends might really not be bad as some of us see it if it used as a political gambit, presently the defense budget is about N900B per year which is sapping a lot of money that might be needed to boost other Areas of the Nigerian Economy . if you Bring out say N100B per year to spend on terrorist like Boko Haram/Jambs while the remaining half of the defense budget N400B goes to defense and the other half N400B is channeled back to capital projects it will help to boost economy/infrastructure .

The Big Problem is when the violence does not stop after the Amnesty and when other terrorist organisation spring up from North west or North Central.

Emperor_007:





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Listen and listen very well, once GEJ grants amnesty to Boko Haram, the military would hands off on everything about Boko Haram and leave it to GEJ and his northern elders / leaders.


This would be the greatest mistake GEJ would make, the North can not continue to force their wish on Nigerians not minding the effect on others.

The whole of SE would stop supporting GEJ, don't say I didn't warn him. He can not count on 15% of North or SW to vote for him in next election, should he run.

The implication of granting amnesty to Boko Haram is beyond what you're thinking, it doesn't matter if they accept the amnesty or not.

Why would the northern leaders / elders insist on amnesty for Boko Haram, without condemning their activities even once?

GEJ is completely on his own, hence forth if he grants amnesty to Boko Haram



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Sincere 9gerian: Typical of SR. Is this not the same SR that has been the mouth piece of Boko haram all the while? SR is the NUMBER ONE propagator of the activities of Boko haram.

Since the Boko haram mayhem started, no suggestion of possible ways of ending the crisis has emanated from SR. Not even one. All we read is criticisms of any strategy adopted by govt.

What do I expect next from SR? I expect SR to blast us very soon with a news report with a headline like "Boko haram rejects amnesty". Watch out!
The conclusion that can be drawn from the attitude of SR is that they want the crisis to continue. SR is profiting from the crisis.

loopine: If what am hearing is true, then believe me Massob is not far fom violence in the South east, and when Massob are evntually granted amnesty as well, opc in the SW will exploit the opportunity to start hostilities and be hoping for an amnesty. Before we know it, the whole country will be on amnesty... its a pity our good for nothing intelligence are nothing to write home about

omenka:

Thank God I never voted that skunk!

A camelleon changes its colours less frequently than this man changes his mind.

I bet the flip flops he wore until his adulthood in Utuoke are having a profound effect on his mental capacity.

Does he have any idea what signal is he sending the regular guy on the streets with such a decision? How do the victims of the violence get closure for the horrific tragedies that they might have witnessed? Some of them hand their wives, sisters, mothers, and daughters raped and killed in their presence!
It is only in Nigeria where you find victims being forgotten whereas the criminal and murderer is embraced, pardoned, and above all, COMPENSATED!!

Government rewards crime handsomely in this part of the world!!

Sincere 9gerian:
Spare us those sentimental gibberish. The military is a highly disciplined body and the president is the commander in chief. Every command must be obeyed or else the officer'll face the music.