percipi1:

You are a liar. The idea of the African Writers series came from Heinemann executive Alan Hill. Chinua Achebe was appointed its first advisory editor . Okigbo had nothing to do with it. Founded in 1962. The books were designed for classroom use, issuing works solely in paperback to make them affordable for African students. They were published by Heinemann Educational Books (HEB) in London and various African cities. Soyinka rejected the idea of the series because of such classification. Have you heard anything called the “European writers series” Why Africa?

ACM10:

Whenever you comment you expose your bias. You must tell me the criteria that makes a government acceptable within the civilized climes. I regret to say that you are arrogant. There is no difference between your ideology and that of the colonialists who thought they came to Africa to civilize them.

A culture that has the father as the head of the family; the eldest male as the head of the kindred; Ndi-ichies as the village representatives at the center. Every decisions must be debated by ndi-ichies and a concensus must be reached before it is considered binding. That proud republican culture is uncivilzed within the civilized climes of your world.

Son-Of-El:


You are the real liar. The publishing outfit banked on achebe's vision, success, and editorial prowness to establish AWS. There was AWS because there was achebe. Recently at achebe's funeral, heinemann publishers in its tribute to achebe, highlighted why. Find that out for yourself if you are unbiasedly serious.

percipi1:

I don’t know why you are accusing me of bias. Am I supposed to agree with you if I do not share your opinion? Honestly, I think you are the one with prejudice.

If your claim is that a system where representatives of families are the trustees of the state power should be accepted as a sort of republican government; then you would have given the word ‘ republic’ another definition entirely because In a republic, officers of state are appointed or elected rather than inherited.

Ola Johnson:
Okon, did you say an African oddity? You are wrong. If you don't understand Yoruba, whose culture WS uses a lot in his work ask for clarification. He may draw similarity between Yoruba and Greece, there is no problem. He has been a Professor of Comparative Literature for close to 50 years. On his being complex, that is his style, and as Professor Robert Fox points out in "From Tigritude To Transcendence: The Conscience And Conscientiousness of Wole Soyinka", 'an artist whose work is difficult need offer no appology.' His works are difficult just as the Yoruba Ifá literary corpus' Odu that is difficult because they are "oro ijinle" (deep words). Can you easily understand an onye ogwu or a dibia? Reason well.

Son-Of-El:


an european wannabe, that is what soyinka is. Nobel prize has made more european than the europeans. Serious inferiority complex. A godless, cult pioneering, nobelomaniac. God help his foolery. The bible says, ''a fool says in his heart that there is no God''. Oops! Have i said something disrespectful?

ACM10:

In Roman republic, were the senators appointed, elected or inherited?

ACM10:

Firstly, in Roman republic, were the senators appointed, elected or inherited?

Secondly, mention the criteria that makes a government acceptable within the civilized climes.

percipi1:

No, they were not elected, however, they were appointed by the consuls

ACM10:

Your ignorance of the republican type of government is so obvious. Did you say that the Roman senators were appointed by the consuls in the republic era? hahaha

What's the origin of the word 'senator?

percipi1:

Maybe it will save us the bacon if you could give me the name of any country in the world that have practised or still practising the sort of government in practice in Alaigbo before the British invasion

ACM10:

C'mon spare me the nonsense! Must we adopt a system of government from outsiders or should we chose a form of government that works for us?

I gave you a republican Roman example that closely mimmicks Igbo system of government during pre-colonial era.

percipi1:

I think you are the ignorant one here, if you dispute my fact, you should provide your own fact. You have not said anything to dispute what I said my friend.

ACM10:

You did not provide any fact my friend. Just ignorant claims. Anyway, I will tell you how senators gets their position during Roman republic when I gets hold of my laptop.

EASTSIDAZ:


Nothing is can change the fact that Achebe single handedly brought Africa to the world stage.
Achebe is truly the father of modern Africa Literature. Soyika and his Yoruba people should deal with it or they take the path taken by awolowo- end it all(he committed suicide)

EASTSIDAZ:


Nothing is can change the fact that Achebe single handedly brought Africa to the world stage.
Achebe is truly the father of modern Africa Literature. Soyika and his Yoruba people should deal with it or they take the path taken by awolowo- end it all(he committed suicide)

percipi1:

Good, i pray you get the laptop in time. Just remember that you are debating with someone who runs a private library. Be prepared. By the way, its nice chating with you. I have to go chill out now.

EASTSIDAZ:


Nothing is can change the fact that Achebe single handedly brought Africa to the world stage.
Achebe is truly the father of modern Africa Literature. Soyika and his Yoruba people should deal with it or they take the path taken by awolowo- end it all(he committed suicide)

EASTSIDAZ:


Nothing is can change the fact that Achebe single handedly brought Africa to the world stage.
Achebe is truly the father of modern Africa Literature. Soyika and his Yoruba people should deal with it or they take the path taken by awolowo- end it all(he committed suicide)

Ola Johnson:
As far as I'm concerned, as you know, if you've started reasoning, Things Fall Apart, is not rich in literary prowess; it is widely used in the United States as more of an anthropology/sociology piece than as a literary text.
Before Chinua Achebe published the novel, people were publishing novels. For example, we have "Ogboju Ode Ninu Igbo Irumale" published in 1938 by D. O. Fagunwa. It was translated into English by Wole Soyinka as "Forest of Thousand Daemons" in 1963. Fagunwa who was the first Nigerian to employ folk philosophy in telling stories had the title of Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE) conferred on him in 1959 by Queen Elizabeth. I know the "Jews" will play on this title, calling it a European title like that of the Nobel Laureate.

Amos Tutuola was another great novelist that published before Chinua Achebe. He wrote his first novel, "The Palm-Wine Drinkard" in 1946 and published it in 1952. It was translated to French by Raymond Queneau as "L'Ivrogne dans la brousse" in 1953. Tutuola wrote two other novels before 1956.
Get that into your head and not a none existing title.

Ola Johnson:
As far as I'm concerned, as you know, if you've started reasoning, Things Fall Apart, is not rich in literary prowess; it is widely used in the United States as more of an anthropology/sociology piece than as a literary text.
Before Chinua Achebe published the novel, people were publishing novels. For example, we have "Ogboju Ode Ninu Igbo Irumale" published in 1938 by D. O. Fagunwa. It was translated into English by Wole Soyinka as "Forest of Thousand Daemons" in 1963. Fagunwa who was the first Nigerian to employ folk philosophy in telling stories had the title of Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE) conferred on him in 1959 by Queen Elizabeth. I know the "Jews" will play on this title, calling it a European title like that of the Nobel Laureate.

Amos Tutuola was another great novelist that published before Chinua Achebe. He wrote his first novel, "The Palm-Wine Drinkard" in 1946 and published it in 1952. It was translated to French by Raymond Queneau as "L'Ivrogne dans la brousse" in 1953. Tutuola wrote two other novels before 1956.
Get that into your head and not a none existing title.

Son-Of-El:


an european wannabe, that is what soyinka is. Nobel prize has made more european than the europeans. Serious inferiority complex. A godless, cult pioneering, nobelomaniac. God help his foolery. The bible says, ''a fool says in his heart that there is no God''. Oops! Have i said something disrespectful?

Son-Of-El:


if not yoruba, it can't be anything else. Eyaaaa..., insecured bigots.

Ola Johnson:
Your reasoning has been blocked. Yes, Wole Soyinka admits he is godless but far better than those that go to church but embezzle the treasury and those that go to mosque but kill for their religion's sake. If you have problem with understanding him, you may take the advice of his former student and dramatist, Femi Osofisan, "Soyinka is not for reading but for staging, for performance."

omonnakoda:
Soyinka does not admit to be "godless". He is known for his sacrifices to Ogun,and indeed his poetry e.g Idanre about Ogun both personal and his beautiful translations of traditional works.
Truth is 99.999999 % of contributors on this thread have not read any literature and have no clue what they are talking about

Ola Johnson: Those that always cite Nadine Gordimer's statement, not even speech, that Chinua Achebe was the father of African literature when the latter won the Booker Prize in 2007, should ask themselves why didn't she make the same statement earlier in 1991 when she won the Nobel Prize in Literature. Is it not obvious it was a human error which we are all susceptible to as pointed out by Wole Soyinka? What was the basis of calling CA that when it was obvious that his last known book, Anthills Of The Savannah (1989), was published two years before Nadine Gordimer won the Nobel Prize in 1991? He later published There Was A Country in 2012, less than a year before he died.

Could it be that Nadine Gordimer was trying to compensate him because she knew CA would never win it. While the reason why a winner of the Prize is made public, the reason why other nominees lose is not. Gordimer, and by extension, Wole Soyinka, being past winners and possibly, possessing the power to nominate, probably knew why CA could not win it even more than twenty years before his death. It could be a thing which past winners keep secret to themselves. Of all his books only three are translated in Swedish. The number of his books which includes five novels, one list of short stories, one poetry and some children's book, could have also had an adverse effect on him not winning the Nobel Prize.

percipi1:

Don't play that sort of game with me. The Roman republican system does not mimic of even share any close resemblance to the family representative system in Alaigbo in any shape or form. please lets be serious for once

The Senate had roughly 300 members. In the very early days of Roman history entry to the senate was by birth or rank. Later it was the consuls who nominated new members to the senate.

Son-Of-El:


private library...so what? Is he supposed to get jittery over it? Private library indeed, or perhaps you mean a 2-column shelf in your oga's/daddy's office...

Ola Johnson:
I've been reading Wole Soyinka for years now. He admits that he is godless - animist - when Olusegun Obasanjo called him that. Ogun, is not in the true form, a god but an Orisha. There are other orisha like Sango, Obatala, etc. People are free to choose as many orisha as they wish. If you discover an orisha is not good for your ori (which could be your aspiration or destiny), you may drop it. Wole Soyinka has maintained that Ogun is his preferred orisha because he makes him muse on his literary prowess. He admits this even in his newest book, Harmattan Haze on an African Spring.