shinermio: very soon, i wld post a topic in the religion section on why tithe should be paid and wld back it up with one or two verses from d new testament. That should seal things up.

rabzy: As long as the church exists in its present form, tithing will never cease because it caters to the greed and desires of the taker and the giver.
The pastors wants to continue their ostentatious larger-than-life and celebrity lifestyle so tithing and continous offering will never cease, the givers wants ten fold of what they give, so while you give one-ten to God they want ten times of that back. That is why they always want to sow, sow into their pastors life.
Will you keep giving even if God does not give u back.

The poor widow was a giver and she kept on giving even when she was not getting the money back from God. Of course she has Gods blessings but evidence shows it was not in cash.

shinermio: very soon, i wld post a topic in the religion section on why tithe should be paid and wld back it up with one or two verses from d new testament. [/b]That should seal things up.

besttop: this is a ways of giving to God, paying your tithes,attract special blessing to you and financial open doors.

try69: A newer fraud is the fraud of FIRST FRUITS where you are required to give 100% of ur earnings for the first month in faith believing that u get it in a trillion fold . They tell u it's not compulsory like tithes but begin to paint pictures of what u get in return when u do this


My people have suffered in the name of being xtians...smh

besttop: this is a ways of giving to God, paying your tithes,attract special blessing to you and financial open doors.

idnoble135: No. And it was not paid to Jesus.
At that moment, the earthly priests were still valid because Christ had not yet die.
No. That statement applied then because of the law.
All of it is no.
Jesus also never asked anyone to give him anything. Does that mean also that giving is irrelevant?
The israelites paid tithe according to how they were blessed. They tithed farm produce because the blessing was mainly farm produce .

rabzy:

Please I don't want to believe this, no it can't be true. The woes that will be upon such pastors would be worse than those pronounced on the pharisees

idnoble135: No. And it was not paid to Jesus.
At that moment, the earthly priests were still valid because Christ had not yet die.
No. That statement applied then because of the law.
All of it is no.
Jesus also never asked anyone to give him anything. Does that mean also that giving is irrelevant?
The israelites paid tithe according to how they were blessed. They tithed farm produce because the blessing was mainly farm produce.

OLAADEGBU:

(Acts 24:17).

Paul collected offerings for the Jerusalem church but it seems the anti tithers have a phobia for the words offerings, just as they detest the word tithe. There must be something in the tithe that makes the devil fight it this hard.

christemmbassey: i told u, Alwaystrue is Bidam, u u notice, when she post , Bidam is offlhne?

Bidam:

i can boldly tell you that demons shiver when they hear the word tithe.

OLAADEGBU:

They are even happy to take offerings in Church and have the effrontery to say that it is not tithes.

Bidam:

Do they even give offerings? they always turn a blind eye whenever the plates is passed.

idnoble135: @Candour and Christembassy, i was not caught off guard by your replies. I've read it on other threads and i've pondered on it.
I believe that excuse is not valid. I guess everywhere we read in the bible something like... "and Jesus spoke to the crowd saying..." we should ignore it because we are not the crowd.
When he spoke to the disciples in Acts 1:8, he was not referring to us because he was speaking to the disciples. That excuse is very lame bro.
See, every word Jesus said might not apply to us directly but it will carry principles that are vital for us. You think all what Jesus was saying was just to make a point to the Pharisee alone? If it were, there would be no need to include it in the Bible because it is irrelevant to us. After all, John told us that there were alot of things He said and did that were not recorded. In the same John, he let us know he spoke only what He heard. And the Father's word in the Scriptures are meant for us.
Okay, look at Mathew 16, Jesus was speaking and He made it clear that the "great confession" which Peter uttered were not revealed by flesh and blood but by the Father.
By your theory, we can also conclude that all what God meant was only Peter can get revelation since Jesus was not talking to us nor the apostles but Peter.
But thats wrong, the principle there is there are things that we can not know via our natural human faculties. But God is telling us a principle here that He can reveal to us what we can in no way know via our carnal understanding.
Now to the verse...

“What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful
to tithe even the tiniest
income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God.
You should tithe, yes, but do
not neglect the more
important things. Luke 11:42NLT

I guess we can overlook this also because Jesus was talking to the Pharisees right?
What a joke!

OLAADEGBU:

They don't attack offerings because it gives them pleasure of giving as little as possible and remain a cheerful giver.

Bidam: Do they even give offerings? they always turn a blind eye whenever the plates is passed.

theoctopus:

You have descended into human wisdom and left God. God's ways are not based on sentiments and good feeling. God does not meander to the crowd. Where in the bible have you seen God following the crowd? So you think you are right because you give big money? You think it impresses God when you giev big tithes? You speak as a man devoid of spiritual knowledge. It is folks like you Jesus chided when he stood over the offerings and declared the poor widow was the best giver. Folsk like you measure giving by the amount given. Such carnal disposition.

You need to go back to God's word and follow it, not your sentiments and good feeling. If the bible says tithe is right, then it is right. If it says it isnt right, then it isnt right. It doesnt matter whether someone gives small or big. It makes no difference. There are many unbelievers that give a lot, but that does not mean God approves them. YOu have just shown with your series of post that it is about your ego, not God. That is why some churches give medals to the highest givers ads if they can actually determine the highest givers. If a man gives 50 million from his 5 billion and another man give 500 naira from his 550 naira, who do youthink is the highest giver of the 2? According to some of your churches, it is the guy who gave 50 million. Why? Because they reason like men. Giving is a universal principle that will work even for unbelievers. Seed time and harvest is a universal principle that will work for both believers and unbelievers. The top 10 richest men in the world are unbelievers and they do not tithe. So your teachings that tithing determines prosperity is false. If you apply the laws of money and business, you will be prosperous. But that doesnt mean God approves you. It is sad that many believers have backsliden with this false materialism messages you folsk are preaching. You are spreading a gospel of mammon. The very thing our Lord Jesus warned us about. You are worshiping money. Money is all you talk about all day. Go and read Revelations chapter 1 to chapter 3. You will see our Lord Jesus message to his church. It is a serious message. a call to repentance. Christ is coming soon. Stop this money worship. Search your hearts and be ready.

OLAADEGBU:

Daily Manna

The Joy Of Giving

TEXT: Genesis 14:13-24

"And blessed be the most high God, which has delivered your enemies into your hand. And he gave him tithes of all" (Genesis 14:20)

Giving is an act motivated by love. God Himself showed us the highest example of giving; "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). The Lord Jesus Christ also taught His disciples that: "It is more blessed to give than to receive."

In this passage, Abram sets a most noble example for believers by giving to the Lord. The king of Sodom and other kings with him welcome Abram from his slaughter of the enemy kings. He had accomplished what they as a group could not (verses 13-20). They counted him a hero. He was neither a king nor a large army, yet with trained servants from his household, he overcame the confederated kings and rescued Lot.

Expecting him to take the honour of the victory to himself, they offered him all the loot from the battle. Abram not only rejected the unrighteous gain but also gave credit to God, to whom belonged the glory of the victory.

This is a standard worthy of emulation. Some Christians say they are satisfied to live by "whatever means I maybe profited." But Abram also showed us here that, there is an acceptable and an unacceptable means of acquiring wealth. He eschewed covetousness knowing that a man's life is not measured by the things, which he possesses (Luke 12:15). He preferred to give tithes to God being confident that He was able to provide all his needs. All our physical needs come graciously from God and trusting Him means we shall have no lack.

Do you ever know that your material gifts will mean nothing to God if you have not first given Him your heart? You and your substance can be used by God for the benefits of mankind. That is the joy of giving.

Thought for the day: "Giving is a blank cheque to draw from the bank of heaven"

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