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| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Nobody: 10:03pm On Nov 02, 2013 |
tintingz: Most of these converts create mischief by telling lies or fabricates lies on Islam to get some attention...read this thread below how some christian converts tell lies against Islam and they can't answer simple question about Islam. With videosat every slightest excuse. My problem is that people are being slaughtered at every slightest excuse in the name of islam. Bros, i did my youth service in Zaria. One day we had eclipse of the moon. Moslem came out that night and started demonstrating, According to them, the moon turned red because Allah was angry with infidels. That night, people were killed. Religious violence in the whole today is tied to Islam. What is really going o? Islam is a violent religion. The whole world is a witness today that we must be careful with Islam, we must not provoke Islam or there will be violence. 1 Like |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tintingz(m): 10:12pm On Nov 02, 2013 |
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| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by adepojuot: 11:00pm On Nov 02, 2013 |
noblezone:guy quran and prophet Muhammed teachings supported killing and jihad. see evidence: Quran 9:19:Do you make the giving drink to pilgrims,or the maintenance of the Mosque,equal to those who fight in the cause of Allah??They are not comparable in the sight of Allah.Those who believe,and left their Homes,striving with,mighty,fighting in Allah,s cause with their goods and their lives HAVE THE HIGHEST RANK IN THE SIGHT OF ALLAH...QUARAN 9:123:Fight the un believers around you,and let them find HARSHNESS in YOU.....QUARAN 9:38:Believers,what is the matter with you?that when you asked to go forth and fight in Allah,s cause you cling to the earth,Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter??UNLESS you go forth,He will AFFLICT and punish you with a PAINFUL DOOM,and PUT OTHERS in YOUR PLACE.....Islam is indeed religion of Peace.... |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tunshe: 11:16pm On Nov 02, 2013 |
Noblezone, we've heard fables of this nature so many times. Tell us more! @adepojut, your hatred for Islam and Mislims knows no bound. You are always coming up to twist the Quran to suit your argument despite valid explanation by Muslims on this forum. My advice for you is to desist because those that have followed your path in the past are in anguish both in this world and the hereafter. Why? Simply because you are fighting a war with the creator of the Heavens and Earth. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by adepojuot: 1:58am On Nov 03, 2013 |
tunshe: Noblezone, we've heard fables of this nature so many times. Tell us more!laffffffffffffiiiiinnnng in sahiiii,who is twisted quran  you better go back to your imam and ask the authentic of quranic verses quoted by me...I do quote quran and hadiths from reliable source.....I don't hate Islam or Muslims,I have them as friends...am only doing this to let world know that activities of boko haram is supported by the quran and prophet Muhammed teachings..... Note:I am not fighting a war with creator of the heavens,I serve the living God and his only beloved son,I got inspirations from him and his my protector...his king of kings and lord or lords,he never and he can never commended me to kill or fight for him to inherit heaven...the God am serving can fight his own cause,so,I don't need to fight for him......wouldn't you fight for Allah??QUARAN 9:112:The believers fight in Allah,s cause,they slay and are slain,kill and are KILLED...common,stop wasting you time here,go and fight Allah,s cause,either you slay or slain,either you kill or you get killed,that is what Allah want from you...obey him,give him your allegiance,72 virgins await you.....lafffffffff. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tunshe: 7:43am On Nov 03, 2013 |
.wouldn't you fight for Allah??QUARAN 9:112:The believers fight in Allah,s cause,they slay and are slain,kill and are KILLED...common,stop wasting you time here,go and fight Allah,s cause,either you slay or slain,either you kill or you get killed,that is what Allah want from you...obey him,give him your allegiance,72 virgins await you.....lafffffffff. Context of verse is during battlefield Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriks of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriks of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Example of war between America and Vietnam We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war. “If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.” [Al-Qur’an 9:6] The Qur’an not only says that a Mushrik seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security? Islam is a religion of peace! 1 Like |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Nobody: 1:35pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
noblezone: |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Nobody: 1:36pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
When will Muslims stop living in denial. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Nobody: 1:40pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
The bible said when God planned grapes in his vineyard, the devil came at night to plant weeds and thorns. Jesus came from God to save and bring peace .... But one man from Satan came to deceive, destroy and shed blood. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tunshe: 1:47pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
rafhell: When will Muslims stop living in denial. Raf in Hell, how do you mean exactly? |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 6:30pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
I am sick and tired of Muslims and Liberals coming to NL and spewing their lies of the religion. So I took some time and found actual quotes from the Quran. Heres some facts to dispel the myth of a peaceful religion... People dont let the Muslims lie to you about their way of life and belifs... The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text[color=#990000][/color] |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 6:46pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran. Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history. I have left the verses in full context so everyone can see the entire intent of the verses.... The Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, forpersecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring. Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah'). Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other.Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers. Quran (4:76) -"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…" Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." Quran (4:95) - ". Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (iNot equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, andthose who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their personsn Faith) Hath Allah promised good:But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 7:04pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end." Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"From the historical context we know that the "persecution" spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj. Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group, since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah." According to Ibn Ishaq (324), Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that "Allah must have no rivals." Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember." Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy." Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars. Quran (9:14) -"Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..." Quran (9:20) -"Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad. Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. Quran (9:30) -"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter?But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell. Quran (9:41) -"Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians). Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 7:25pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith. Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper." Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." Quran (18:65-81) -This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murderedbecause they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story, which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source, tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?" Quran (25:52) -"Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness...""Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse. Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations. Quran (47:3-4) -"Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similtudes. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle.The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost." Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand"  for Allah is with you," This very important verse asserts that the Religion of Peace is not to grant peace to the broader society until Islamic rule has been established.Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? Quran (48:29) -"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 7:33pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Quran (61:4) -"Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 7:48pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Now lets be logical and think deep enough...lets compare the two.Christianity and Islam.Jesus and Mohamed. Even though many Muslims regard terrorists who kill in the name of Allah as criminals, they cannot deny that Muhammad also killed in the name of Allah.What example of Jesus do Christians emulate which has them confused them with terrorists and criminals? Each year, thousands of Christian homes and churches are torchedor bombedby Muslim mobs, and hundreds of Christians, including dozens of priests, pastors, nunsand other church workersare murdered at the hands of Islamic extremists. The so-called justification varies, from charges of apostasyor evangelism, to purported " blasphemy" or " insulting" Islam. Innocent people have even been hacked to death by devout Muslims over cartoons. Yet, there is little if any violent retaliation from religious Christians to the discrimination, kidnapping, rape, torture, mutilationand murderthat is routinely reported from nations with Muslim majorities. Neither is there is any significant deadly terrorism in the name of Jesus, as there is in the stated cause of Allah each and every day. Muslim clerics in the West do not fear for their safety as do their Christian counterparts. The "Christian world" and the Islamic world contrast sharply in other ways as well, from the disparate condition of human rights and civil liberties to economic status. An astonishing 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims - usually seeking to live in Christian-based countries. While Western societies take seriously "scandals" such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo (where no one has actually been killed), Muslims routinely turn a blind eye to their own horrible atrocities, even those committed explicitly in the name of Allah. The Muslim world has yet to offer a single apology for the tens of millions of lives consumed by centuries of relentless Jihad and slavery. These sharp differences are almost certainly rooted in the underlying religions, which begin with the disparate teachings and examples set by Jesus and Muhammad... |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 7:55pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Differences Between Muhammad and Jesus Muhammad... Jesus... Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38)Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206)"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)"Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)"Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901)Neither owned nor traded slaves. Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390)Beheaded no one. Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194)"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645)"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)Was celibate. Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)Did not have sex with children. Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)Never harmed a woman. "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123)"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq )Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451)Never took captives. Never killed anyone. Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41)"The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39)"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440)Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743)Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149)What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102)Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute.Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions. Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)Was crucified himself. According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413)According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) Differences Between Early Muslims and Early Christians Muhammad's Companions... Jesus' Disciples... Lived as warriors.Lived like harmless hippies. Slew and persecuted religious minorities.Were slain and persecuted as a religious minority. Emphasis on Jihad (the way of Muhammad) "He who fights that Allah's word should be superior fights in Allah's cause" (Bukhari 53:355)Emphasis on Evangelism (the way of Jesus) "Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature" (Matthew 15:16) Attacked and conquered the populations in parts of 28 modern countries in just the first three decades following Muhammad's death. Did not resort to violence of any sort, despite tremendous persecution. Declared holy war on the people of five major world religions in just the first 100 years following Muhammad's death. Went centuries without declaring 'holy war'. Plundered and lived off the wealth of others.Gave away their possessions to those in need. (Acts 2:44-45) Captured and enslaved non-Muslim people.Considered themselves to be slaves of others. Waged war to keep members from leaving the religion. Put apostates to death. No record of aggression toward apostates |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tunshe: 8:10pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Swift boy, continue with your copy paste. But note that no one has time to be reading those long meaningless comments. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tintingz(m): 8:36pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tunshe: Swift boy, continue with your copy paste.Don't mind him he's a clown, I expected him to refute my posts but he posted what I have debunked  |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by adepojuot: 9:45pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tunshe: Swift boy, continue with your copy paste.I read everything from A to Z and it was so educating.@ swift boy well done,God shall reward you,you bless in the name of JESUS. 1 Like |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by adepojuot: 10:04pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tintingz: Don't mind him he's a clown, I expected him to refute my posts but he posted what I have debunkedyou don't even ashamed of yourself,your fellow Muslims across the world are killing innocent people in the name of Islam,you are here defending them..God shall open your eyes..... |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 10:33pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tintingz: Don't mind him he's a clown, I expected him to refute my posts but he posted what I have debunkedhmmmmm! Debunked my foot! I accept clearly now that you dont want the truth. O yes am a clown.I suggest you sit down and read all,cos if I were you,I'd try to cross check to see whether those quotes are from The Holy Quran or fabricated...my brother,I'll search for the truth as to why Christians are soo confidence in their claim to follow Jesus Christ.Yes He claimed to safe the world from the wrath of God ...only faith in Him delivers from hell,not taking another man's life or observing rituals and sacrifices. My Brother,trust me in this...I have questioned Christianity in time's past!now I know better! My eyes has been opened to the grace we dont have before Jesus came.Yes in the old testaments God is terrible at punishing sins{of Israelites and those that're not} but now he ask me and you to look out for a way out in Jesus alone.I cant preach to you,but I pray that God will open our eyes to see His true will as regard what to believe.amin! |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tintingz(m): 10:37pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
adepojuot: you don't even ashamed of yourself,your fellow Muslims across the world are killing innocent people in the name of Islam,you are here defending them..God shall open your eyes.....And where did I say I support terrorist? |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tintingz(m): 10:39pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Swiftboy:I will be back to clear those verses.  |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 10:40pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tintingz: And where did I say I support terrorist?you did not! The base of our arguement's that Islam have backing to what they are doing even as I've highlighted in my long post which you refuse to read cos they're long and perceived trashy by you! |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 10:43pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tintingz: I will be back to clear those verses.ok am waiting! Truth is what I expect without twisting. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tunshe: 10:48pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
Swiftboy: Context of verse is during battlefield Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriks of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriks of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Example of war between America and Vietnam We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war. “If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.” [Al-Qur’an 9:6] The Qur’an not only says that a Mushrik seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security? Islam is a religion of peace! |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by adepojuot: 11:19pm On Nov 03, 2013 |
tunshe:hissssssss,the same old story. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 1:13am On Nov 04, 2013 |
Hmmmm! Nice one but not convincing enough! What happened to the war mohamed fault with the jews that was won by devine intervention? Was there a breach of treaty? What of the other 60 something wars fought by the prophet....you definately did not read my post,did you? Sir,you've not done justice to your argument bro! |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 1:27am On Nov 04, 2013 |
Here's a big question...is quran an historical book or an eternal book? Was it a revelation to prophet at that time alone or also for generations to come? What proof do you have that its invalid today.tell me huh! Tell me.cos there're also guidelines on how to take a city or country for allah.my brother I dont hate Muslims,dont get me wrong oh. But I'll speak the truth that there are teachings that are dangerous for humans to follow. |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by tintingz(m): 5:29am On Nov 04, 2013 |
tunshe:Thank you brother |
| Re: 128 Killed In Yobe Boko-Haram Attack by Swiftboy(m): 5:47am On Nov 04, 2013 |
tintingz: Thank you brotherAm gona un-follow this post!its no use arguing with you guys cos despite the gleering evidence you'll still deny. The reason for brute in Islam's there's no different between it as a religion and as a country or state.Christianity have no business with politics...back to what you supported! A good religion should not wake war to win converts.Islam did at one point,hence its a violent religion oh ha! Go check Jesus Christ and early Christians.read bible to understand.its a shame you come here and tell us the same invalid point over and over again.if you cant defend your faith well,just give it a rest! |
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