Truckpusher: Why is the South West always fretting each time the ND people talk about a break up?

Why is the North always shouting war whenever the South East wants to secede

Is there anything wrong with a people that wants to go their separate ways and take their own destiny into their own hands no matter how bad you assume it will end ?

superstar1:
You must be smoking bomb. Go to Kano, or Ibadan or calabar or maiduguri or onitsha and tell them all part of the federation belongs to all the tribes. You will be roasted alive, I can assure you.
Must breaking up be by violence? Are we that barbaric. Czechoslovakia , Yugoslavia, Russia, etc all broke up without a single gun shot. Scotland is breaking off from Uk, must we tow the line of violence.
If violence is the way, a la goes, we are up for it.

superstar1:

You are indeed a truckpusher from dungeon of poverty. What concerns SW with ND. If they like, they can break into pieces, na their headache.

Our agriculture - cocoa, kola nut; oil deposit, bitumen deposit, gold deposit are enough for us. Mind you, the financial centre of sub Saharan Africa will still be residing in Lagos. We still,have untapped tourism industry to leverage on.

Pls the country should split and let everybody go to their countries. The competition to prosper and suRpass peer nations will propel all to succeed.

The major fact we cannot run away from is that, it is the same greedy corrupt elite ruling Nigeria that will dissolve into the different nations and continue ruling from there. The same corrupt practises in our public offices and corporate bodies will still continue. Are we bringing new people from moon to be Niger deltans oduans Biafrans and arewans. Definitely No.

Surely, corruption will be easier to fight then than now for a nation that is courageous enough to fight it. That is the only difference.

Truckpusher: Why is the South West always fretting each time the ND people talk about a break up?

Why is the North always shouting war whenever the South East wants to secede

Is there anything wrong with a people that wants to go their separate ways and take their own destiny into their own hands no matter how bad you assume it will end ?

tensor777:
I think you have another agenda but you really are living in a dream world. Scotland is not a tribe you know. It is a nation state that already has its own separate legal, educational and political framework for centuries even though they are still part of UK. Same for other countries of Europe that broke away
Saying that tribes should form states is so shallow that it beggars belief. So people should now form nation states based on their native tongue? Trust me if that ever happens the explosion of unbridled savagery would signal the end of Africa
Anyway I am not aware that any tribe that constitutes an administrative entity in Nigeria or of any tribe recognized by the Constitution so there can never be such a tribal division of Nigeria . And Czechoslovakia has huge criss between the world wars worlds with czerch on french side and sloviakia on germany side and yugoslavia pls don't tell you have never hear of the Yugoslav Wars 1990s, and russia i don't need to remain you of 1st world war

Eziachi:
One Nigeria brought the aforementioned things to the fore and magnified by 100. Break Nigeria today, those things won't disappear but will return to their pre 1914 level or at least pre 1966 when we are independent of each others everyday governance/life though strong regional autonomous govts.
Everyday, you want Igbos out of your land, people are being deported inside their own country and on the same breath, you want one Nigeria, does it make any sense?
Age got everything to do with it, because those around even in 1970 after a bitter civil war, will tell you that Nigerian then were more tolerant than Nigeria of 2013.

shymexx:
I'm going to be objective in this post.
Bruv, I'm Yoruba and I honestly don't understand why these Yoruba elites/politicians and the educated ones on nl are always scared of disintegration - despite being the most advantageous region in the country. I've been asking questions, yet the only answers I get seems to be about "Kiriji Wars"(Yoruba civil war) and how western and eastern Yoruba still have some friction. However, I honestly don't think that's enough reason to be scared about disintegration. And the darn civil war happened because the new "power" on the block, Ibadan, was trying to dominate everyone else back then - and the rest were not having it. So that excuse is just silly.

shymexx:

I'm going to be objective in this post.

Bruv, I'm Yoruba and I honestly don't understand why these Yoruba elites/politicians and the educated ones on nl are always scared of disintegration - despite being the most advantageous region in the country. I've been asking questions, yet the only answers I get seems to be about "Kiriji Wars"(Yoruba civil war) and how western and eastern Yoruba still have some friction. However, I honestly don't think that's enough reason to be scared about disintegration. And the darn civil war happened because the new "power" on the block, Ibadan, was trying to dominate everyone else back then - and the rest were not having it. So that excuse is just silly.

Perhaps, Yoruba's are benefiting from Nigeria. However, when I look at the SW - I don't think it's free from the curse of Nigeria. It's just as accursed as the rest of country. Despite the enormous potentials of the region. Yoruba's don't even need crude oil to survive - that's how blessed the region is IMO. And there's crude oil in the SW and loads of potential crude oil areas. So why are they scared of disintegration?

Anyway, when the rest decide to go their own way and take their destiny in their hands. Yoruba's would be forced to go create their own country. The madness is a tad bit sickening and silly now. I hate when people can't be independent for shit - always leaning on other people for survival, especially when the whole thing is just a never ending retrogression. Stand on your feet and take your destiny in your hands. And if you can't survive on your own - you don't deserve to live, period.

Shalom!

Truckpusher: How do you guys find it easy talking about poverty when in real life you're the poverty stricken fellow with no meaningful life now and in the nearest future........talking about poverty when issues are being analysed speaks volume of your personality, you probably think that being rich is a luxury because for me it's a right and get that into your thick skull numbnuts ....smh........shift before you infect me with your poverty induced mentality.

One_Naira:

i had to like your post because it is something i ponder on as well. is it by force for all of us to share a nation. people want out, allow them their GODgiving freedom.

Asari, I'm with you on this. A division is what we need, anything short of that is useless. As for those threatening war, I would like to remind you all that with the way nigeria is going and with the way people are dying left and right, Nigeria is already a war torn country; it just haven't been announced yet. living in nigeria now, especially those up north, is just as dangerous as living in a war torn nation

Truckpusher: Thank you Mr Shymexx.The Yorubas are the highest beneficiaries after the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy when it comes to infrastructure,human development and all the goodies that the oil and gas from the Niger Delta has brought into Nigeria.
Whilst the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy keeps the oil well licences to themselves and making billions but continuously keeping their people ignorant, uneducated ,poor with no skill .
So now from this picture above who is afraid to go his separate ways

tensor777: /quote]
Well I am not from the SW, but the leaders/intellectuals are only being honest. What would they gain from Nigeria splitiing? Another round of intra-ethnic bloodletting or worse. Besides they have had far better local administration compared with the SE.

Don't forget the Ironsi regime of the first part of 1966 was the most blatantly tribal regime in Nigerian history.Yet after the violent mutiny and reaction by northern and middle belt rank and file soldiers and the subsequent execution of Ironsi people like Ojukwu started championing the course of Confederation not even Regionalism, whereas before the overthrow people like Ojukwu were enthusiastically One Nigeria men.

However the SW has always been pro-unity and that has continued to this day. Of course they may prefer their own politicians to be ruling the roost but even if they aren't that wouldn't make them to be pro-disintegration.

superstar1:

Truck pusher has spoken. O ya carry go.

That reply if yours is bereft of logic and clearly shows the level of your lowlife. Drink coke with your bread as you continue with your truck pushing.

django1: If Niger delta people are not fools, they must denounce this man. He took all the money he collected from his militancy and went completely out of nigeria to build some rubbish schools in benin republic.

I also heard, bayelsa state government is sponsoring some students to that school.

There's a great deal of things wrong with niger delta.

tensor777:
I suggest your post is flawed because the main reason the SW has benefited apart from Lagos being the former capital is that they have had better leaders than anywhere in the SE OR SS. This has enabled them to acquire a high level of education and of course subsequently get good jobs.
There is no conspiracy theory although elements like Dokubo-Asari are fond of justifying their criminality by spouting such garbage.

jairus ben: u must be high on something..

victorD3:


It seems all your Islam permits is maiming and killing of christains

Atigba: he is nt a greedy man..whether you like it or nt the oil belong to them..they have been feeding this nation since 1956...go to oloibiri today were crude oil was first discovered a place that ought to be a tourist zone the village is less develop,nothing is happening there

truefact:

Remember Saro Wiwa, he was killed because he tried to challenge the likes of you. Also compare him to the rich people of that time, you would know he was among the poor of them.

kingoflag:

As I remember it, Ojukwu was the Abacha govt's mouthpiece justifying to the world why Saro-Wiwa had to be killed. He was also the Govt signatory/witness when Saro-Wiwa was murdered.

What were you saying again?

tensor777:
I think you have another agenda but you really are living in a dream world. Scotland is not a tribe you know. It is a nation state that already has its own separate legal, educational and political framework for centuries even though they are still part of UK. Same for other countries of Europe that broke away
Saying that tribes should form states is so shallow that it beggars belief. So people should now form nation states based on their native tongue? Trust me if that ever happens the explosion of unbridled savagery would signal the end of Africa
Anyway I am not aware that any tribe that constitutes an administrative entity in Nigeria or of any tribe recognized by the Constitution so there can never be such a tribal division of Nigeria

Truckpusher: Do you have a proof of this document ,and if yes please share i'd like to have access to that document .
Thanks.

Truckpusher: Why is the South West always fretting each time the ND people talk about a break up?

Why is the North always shouting war whenever the South East wants to secede

Is there anything wrong with a people that wants to go their separate ways and take their own destiny into their own hands no matter how bad you assume it will end ?

Truckpusher: Of Mr olodo superstar1.....I was only replying to your fo0lish comments about poverty whilst avoiding that gibberish you typed up there that's so filled with sentiment,hate and completely out of touch with common sense which i never expected you to posses in anyway judging from your inability to argue like the educated eediot that you are without cursing your entire life away............when Shymex replied my comment, didn't you notice how uncivilized and blind you sound? or are you also blind

I still maintain that fellows like you wallows in abject poverty ,but finds succor in calling people poor.

Meanwhile ,take kpokpo garri mix with water and drink ,that's one diet you don't miss at all

Onlytruth:

I personally think that it is because they see that some people are cowed by the threats in the South, but I have a nagging feeling that they will soon see that no amount of threat will work this time. The year 2014/15 is like a nagging bone in the throats of northerners like ndu_chucks.

Truth can defeat any army no matter how strong the army may be.
I personally believe that Nigeria can (and probably will) disintegrate precipitously without a single shot fired.

The only thing that can keep Nigeria one is that the North OPENLY denounces and distances from the Ahmadu Bello ambitions of using southern Nigeria as a conquered territory. If they do that, and GO TO WESTERN STYLE SCHOOLS, then maybe there is hope for Nigeria, else disintegration is inevitable.

tensor777: /quote]
Well I am not from the SW, but the leaders/intellectuals are only being honest. What would they gain from Nigeria splitiing? Another round of intra-ethnic bloodletting or worse. Besides they have had far better local administration compared with the SE and SS.

Don't forget the Ironsi regime of the first part of 1966 was the most blatantly tribal regime in Nigerian history.Yet after the violent mutiny and reaction by northern and middle belt rank and file soldiers and the subsequent execution of Ironsi people like Ojukwu started championing the course of Confederation not even Regionalism, whereas before the overthrow people like Ojukwu were enthusiastically One Nigeria men. Even Ojukwu proved his One Nigeria credentials after his return by joining Shagari's One Nation One Destiny NPN party.

However the SW has always been pro-unity and that has continued to this day. Of course they may prefer their own politicians to be ruling the roost but even if they aren't that wouldn't make them to be pro-disintegration.

tensor777: /quote]
Well I am not from the SW, but the leaders/intellectuals are only being honest. What would they gain from Nigeria splitiing? Another round of intra-ethnic bloodletting or worse. Besides they have had far better local administration compared with the SE and SS.

Don't forget the Ironsi regime of the first part of 1966 was the most blatantly tribal regime in Nigerian history.Yet after the violent mutiny and reaction by northern and middle belt rank and file soldiers and the subsequent execution of Ironsi people like Ojukwu started championing the course of Confederation not even Regionalism, whereas before the overthrow people like Ojukwu were enthusiastically One Nigeria men. Even Ojukwu proved his One Nigeria credentials after his return by joining Shagari's One Nation One Destiny NPN party.

However the SW has always been pro-unity and that has continued to this day. Of course they may prefer their own politicians to be ruling the roost but even if they aren't that wouldn't make them to be pro-disintegration.

Truckpusher: Thank you Mr Shymexx.The Yorubas are the highest beneficiaries after the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy when it comes to infrastructure,human development and all the goodies that the oil and gas from the Niger Delta has brought into Nigeria.

Whilst the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy keeps the oil well licences to themselves and making billions but continuously keeping their people ignorant, uneducated ,poor with no skill .

So now from this picture above who is afraid to go his separate ways

The man that holds the oil licences?
The man that benefits from the numerous jobs,contracts and employment that comes around as a result of the oil and gas industry activities by simply keeping quiet whilst playing a second fiddle to the hausa/fulani islamaofascist oligarchy ?

The situation in Nigeria is still favorable to the South West and they shouldn't be in a hurry to call it quit ,by 2017 most of these licences would have expired and this is one reason why the North wants the Presidency back at all cost because GEJ will only be a fool to hand over those licences back to the North and they know all this, because this is the wind of change that both regions elites don't want to see because once those licenses are no longer there the C-IN-C can make policies that will give the Niger Delta people what belongs to them and they dare not push it because the implications will be too great to ignore ,the c-in-c can actually call for fiscal federalism which both regions doesn't want to about and finally if they push too much we could be heading for a referendum .

Having said all this, it's very clear that Asari was smarter and more intelligent than some of these people that are talking trash about him here in NL,he knew for sure that the only way to get back what is yours is to threaten total destruction of that thing , after all he who is down fears no fall.

shymexx:

I disagree with the highlighted part. Yoruba elites might be beneficiaries of Nigeria, however, ordinary Yoruba people are just as dirt poor and the rest of the other people in the country. Also, oil money also didn't build the infrastructures in the SW. When I look at Ibadan, I see relics built during the first republic with cocoa money by Awolowo. So where is the oil money? I look at Lagos and I believe most of the pseudo-infrastructures there were built before oil money and after the capital-status was stripped-off the state. So where's the oil money? Heck, even Abuja that was built with oil money looks like an abandoned pensioners' town with dull architecture.

Honestly, I still don't know what the oil money added to Nigeria apart from a lot of stolen money in circulation boosting the country's GDP. However, most of the money belong to a few people.

Bishop Magic:
https://www.nairaland.com/1544641/ungrateful-lagos

Your hands are soiled from all that oil and you still deny that Oil never helped the SW.

smh!