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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by tigger56: 12:06am On Dec 13, 2013
Ibhoes are a lost cause, we shudnt waste our time arguing with backward mentally deranged groups of people, instead let's agitate 4 d countries separation...let dem go!!!I am sick and tired of boarding a flight to london and d noisy, drug trafficking, human trafficking, prostituting bunch keep embarrassing me cos we bear the same passport...LET THEM GO pls I can't stand it anymore dey are myopic self centered chaotic evil hated heavily disliked the world over group of people....if they don't leave the south west.....I wILL KILL SOME ibHOES!!!!!!!

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by OmoTier1(m): 12:11am On Dec 13, 2013
MajeMedia:

LOL you don't get it, Anambra has the highest JAMB test scores in the entire nation! So what does your painted desk really mean? Imo has a number of jamb applicants that's double the next closest Yoruba state. It's great that Edo and APC states have focused on making school presentable, but schools in igbo land focus of competition between students, and displaying achievement and talent. When the governor visits the best students present their skills, they compete for this honor, and so when it's time to take a test they maintain the attitude of competition. Everyone wants to be the best, desk, bare floor or mansion, it doesn't matter the terrain.

Because of our own philosophy, my own village has 4 polytechnics, all build by private individuals and town unions. One village. Anambra is no different. and NO igbo parent is trying to take their kids to public school. It's a disgrace because the quality of education is inferior. Most igbo children go to church owned or business owned private schools.

Igbos have a different philosophy in governing

Again, you easterners are wallowing in self deceit. Whilst others are investing in heavily in education, you lots are busy playing ethnic cards and money bag politics.

Peter Obi spent 7years plus as governor in Anambra, yet He can not boast of a decent school in Anambra. Go to Edo State, the enrolment of kids in schools has increased because now parents are able to send their children to schools that can competite with the private ones in facilities and teachers.

Edo State is not there yet but we are matching on, and we will regain the glory that made Bendelites the symbol of academic excellence. Those who are old enough would remember Ambrose Ali viz Awolowo's revive education.

Stop deceiving yourself about this nonsensical Igbo philosophy of governance. There is no such, all you have your leaders are visionless, spineless and are only there to feed fat on you!

A governor is suppose to have build several schools, hospital, water works, good roads, has failed, unable to account for the money and you are here telling us rubbish philosophy!

If this is the philosophy you people want to rule nigeria presidency with then you better stick to your villages.

FYI, and go check this out, Edo State has the highest number of institutions of higher learning in Nigeria #FACTS FEW KNOW.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by superstar1(m): 12:18am On Dec 13, 2013
Omo_Tier1:

Again, you easterners are wallowing in self deceit. Whilst others are investing in heavily in education, you lots are busy playing ethnic cards and money bag politics.

Peter Obi spent 7years plus as governor in Anambra, yet He can not boast of a decent school in Anambra. Go to Edo State, the enrolment of kids in schools has increased because now parents are able to send their children to schools that can competite with the private ones in facilities and teachers.

Edo State is not there yet but we are matching on, and we will regain the glory that made Bendelites the symbol of academic excellence. Those who are old enough would remember Ambrose Ali viz Awolowo's revive education.

Stop deceiving yourself about this nonsensical Igbo philosophy of governance. There is no such, all you have your leaders are visionless, spineless and are only there to feed fat on you!

A governor is suppose to have build several schools, hospital, water works, good roads, has failed, unable to account for the money and you are here telling us rubbish philosophy!

If this is the philosophy you people want to rule nigeria presidency with then you better stick to your villages.

FYI, and go check this out, Edo State has the highest number of institutions of higher learning in Nigeria #FACTS FEW KNOW.

Who will they rule? For where. Just one of their daughters in public office wasted public funds on 2 cars and they were shouting we should leave the good girl alone because she is their daughter. She was looting their share of national cake for then, as if she is even that magnanimous to be doling it out to them. Nigeria will certainly go bankrupt, if they ever become the president of this country.

All the over 250 Nigerian tribes would have become president before they can ever smell it. Presidency is achieved by bridge building and not bridge burning.

Their best bet to be a president is through the actualization of their Biafra or republic of igbo land, whichever that suits them.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by OmoTier1(m): 12:20am On Dec 13, 2013
Obiagu1:

Don't be too fast!
Ring Road, Benin City is the centre of the state capital.
Post pictures that are outside the core?

I lived in Benin too like you, born liar!
FYI, I do not live in Benin, that is my homeland, and you are an immigrant. The fact that you are living in another's place as an immigrant is an indication that your place is no good for you.

Unlike your Anambra government, Edo State government has a functional and ever updated website and these you can see the roads that tax payers have constructed through visionary leadership.

I dare you again, show me one road Obi has constructed that you can compare to the Fuga or Igarra ossosso road Oshiomhole has constructed. Show me one road from Anambra has good as the one Oshiomhole is constructing that cuts across over 200 villages in Orhiowhon in Edo State, including Abudu.

Like I said, We have not arrived yet but are making good progress and that is why we will never again allow bad leadership in Edo State, and you lots can glory in your corruption and worship your looters.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ichidodo: 12:30am On Dec 13, 2013
superstar1:

Idi0tic and m0ronic Omo y1bo aka yanmiri is speechless
No need to waste brain power on a mere Maggot-ridden APC yeriba troglodyte when your diseased assses have been set straight, do i?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ichidodo: 12:36am On Dec 13, 2013
MajeMedia: Ndigbo have had a long and turbulent history with taxes, and they're seen as culturally unjust due to the republican nature of our culture. Thus governments that plan on staying implement low taxes. If Igbos were pro-tax, Nigeria may still be a colony (Aba Woman's riots, attacks and rejection of warrant chiefs etc)

If you notice developments in Igboland are more republican and in yoruba land they're more socialist. For example, Where a yoruba governor will implement a busing system run by the state, and igbo governor will buy buses (most often cars) and give it to private citizens to employ themselves (Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi).

Yoruba governors are keen to building schools and managing them. Igbo governors are keen to building schools and hand them to private hands or back to churches (Abia, Anambra)

Some governments in igboland have even privatized radical elements of government. Rochas Okorocha has sold all government enterprises, and has pressured universities to fund themselves by starting their own palm plantations. Anambra and Abia have handed the states schools back to churches and missionaries that build them


Poverty is not as stark in igboland as it is in Yoruba land. Most people can sustain themselves and earn an income. You won't see beggars. Thus the government doesn't need to maintain an expensive welfare state. The state's with the most poverty in Igbo land, Ebonyi and Enugu, as a result have to use more government intervention and thus per capita their IGR is higher because the government does more. Anambra, government or not, will function the exact same way because it's highly republican and entrepreneurial. Abia even more so.



So the end result is the IGR of igbo state can be low and tax policy low to encourage entrepreneurship and do so. The Igbo populace don't like the idea of tax, credit and debt. The igbo states thus have low taxes, don't borrow (except with the mismanagement of Rochas Okorocha who is considered a radical element), and have the lowest debts in the country.







Both methods work, but they're just different philosophies of how to govern and the beauty of federalism is it allows the country to be a laboratory of ideas and different methods. Let the best man win, the competition is healthy, but it's unfair to us IGR to measure economic strength. We all know Ebonyi isn't economically stronger than Anambra so it's a fallacy. If Igbos began using debt to prove wealth they would be the richest, and Lagos the poorest.
Epic, simply epic.This what we call 'Smash and grab'
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by IGBOSON1: 12:37am On Dec 13, 2013
Omo_Tier1:
FYI, I do not live in Benin, that is my homeland, and you are an immigrant. The fact that you are living in another's place as an immigrant is an indication that your place is no good for you.

Unlike your Anambra government, Edo State government has a functional and ever updated website and these you can see the roads that tax payers have constructed through visionary leadership.

I dare you again, show me one road Obi has constructed that you can compare to the Fuga or Igarra ossosso road Oshiomhole has constructed. Show me one road from Anambra has good as the one Oshiomhole is constructing that cuts across over 200 villages in Orhiowhon in Edo State, including Abudu.

Like I said, We have not arrived yet but are making good progress and that is why we will never again allow bad leadership in Edo State, and you lots can glory in your corruption and worship your looters.

^^^@Bolded: You've finally lost the plot mate.....go and sleep!
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by atlwireles: 12:40am On Dec 13, 2013
Omo_Tier1:

Again, you easterners are wallowing in self deceit. Whilst others are investing in heavily in education, you lots are busy playing ethnic cards and money bag politics.

Peter Obi spent 7years plus as governor in Anambra, yet He can not boast of a decent school in Anambra. Go to Edo State, the enrolment of kids in schools has increased because now parents are able to send their children to schools that can competite with the private ones in facilities and teachers.

Edo State is not there yet but we are matching on, and we will regain the glory that made Bendelites the symbol of academic excellence. [s]Those who are old enough would remember Ambrose Ali viz Awolowo's revive education.[/s]

Stop deceiving yourself about this nonsensical Igbo philosophy of governance. There is no such, all you have your leaders are visionless, spineless and are only there to feed fat on you!

A governor is suppose to have build several schools, hospital, water works, good roads, has failed, unable to account for the money and you are here telling us rubbish philosophy!

If this is the philosophy you people want to rule nigeria presidency with then you better stick to your villages.

FYI, and go check this out, Edo State has the highest number of institutions of higher learning in Nigeria #FACTS FEW KNOW.

Most people in delta see ambrose Alli as a setback for education in the Old Bendel state. His free education WAS NOTHING BUT A TRUCK LOAD OF CRAP. What are you talking about, the over crowded afternoon session schools, no books,no teachers, or his complete destruction of the education standard in the old Bendel state. The man killed all the good works of Ogbemudia in 2 years. But again, you are not from Edo, just keep your noise going.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ichidodo: 12:44am On Dec 13, 2013
IGBO-SON:


^^^@Bolded: You've finally lost the plot mate.....go and sleep!
Lol @ The Edo Immigrant
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MayorofLagos(m): 12:44am On Dec 13, 2013
Omo_Tier1:

Again, you easterners are wallowing in self deceit. Whilst others are investing in heavily in education, you lots are busy playing ethnic cards and money bag politics.

Peter Obi spent 7years plus as governor in Anambra, yet He can not boast of a decent school in Anambra. Go to Edo State, the enrolment of kids in schools has increased because now parents are able to send their children to schools that can competite with the private ones in facilities and teachers.

Edo State is not there yet but we are matching on, and we will regain the glory that made Bendelites the symbol of academic excellence. Those who are old enough would remember Ambrose Ali viz Awolowo's revive education.

Stop deceiving yourself about this nonsensical Igbo philosophy of governance. There is no such, all you have your leaders are visionless, spineless and are only there to feed fat on you!

A governor is suppose to have build several schools, hospital, water works, good roads, has failed, unable to account for the money and you are here telling us rubbish philosophy!

If this is the philosophy you people want to rule nigeria presidency with then you better stick to your villages.

FYI, and go check this out, Edo State has the highest number of institutions of higher learning in Nigeria #FACTS FEW KNOW.

While responsible states like Edo are investing in their people for communal growth, wasteful states like Anambra is donating cars to traditional rulers and constructing roads in army barracks.

Another state, Enugu just donated about 700 cars to jobless youths, this is for their empowerenent.

I wonder how they measure empowerement in East. I want to see a table giving me statistical data on youth empowerement..I hiope Enugu is on top, assuming we find any serious statistician can measure empowerement absent of productivity and gainful employment.

Eastern governing principle my a***.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by superstar1(m): 12:55am On Dec 13, 2013
ichidodo: No need to waste brain power on a mere Maggot-ridden APC yeriba troglodyte when your diseased assses have been set straight, do i?

People are talking and a deluded Igbo is saying he is got an idea.

the fear of APC will lead to your untimely death or how does APC come into this discussion. If i pick on the school you attended and the hollow heads yanmiri lecturers that examined you and felt this empty head is worthy in learning, they will start whining as usual.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 12:59am On Dec 13, 2013
ChinoElects:


Which infrastructure did they build in yorobarland?







Now, that was built by Fashola in less than 3 years while your forefathers begged and you and your current isi ewu governors are still begging for the same bridge they've been begging for 30 years and counting..


And when you come back with another village nonsense, make sure you do with something in your village to stand next to this bridge..

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MayorofLagos(m): 1:18am On Dec 13, 2013
agbameta:







Now, that was built by Fashola in less than 3 years while your forefathers begged and you and your current isi ewu governors are still begging for the same bridge they've been begging for 30 years and counting..


And when you come back with another village nonsense, make sure you do with something in your village to stand next to this bridge..

C'mon mhen! Thats the new Niger bridge at Onitsha. Aregbesola sent Osun people to go steal am put for Lagos. cheesy

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Psylas(m): 1:59am On Dec 13, 2013
sincerenigerian:


Did the op make up the fact or CBN made it up? You Ibos can spin anything.............
he made it up, that link their is not valid, he should bring link frm ctb website
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Psylas(m): 2:03am On Dec 13, 2013
superstar1:

Ewu, your so called source is more authentic and verifiable than Cbn. I wonder the kind of schools you go to in SE - all those glorified secondary schools you are calling universities.

How can NBS stas be more authentic than CBN? E gba wa o
shotup! The souce is not frm CBN
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by IGBOSON1: 2:05am On Dec 13, 2013
agbameta:







Now, that was built by Fashola in less than 3 years while your forefathers begged and you and your current isi ewu governors are still begging for the same bridge they've been begging for 30 years and counting..


And when you come back with another village nonsense, make sure you do with something in your village to stand next to this bridge..

^^^Far be it from me to rain on your parade, but that bridge was not 'built by Fashola' as you put it! It was built by Lagos tax payers of which includes Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, Ijaw, Efik, Ibibio, Annang, Itsakiri, Urhobo, etc-etc-etc.........just saying!

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 3:46am On Dec 13, 2013
You guys started this thread to insult igbos. The end result was you felt insulted and are now trying, with anything possible, to desperately bring Igbos down, which is sad. I only wanted to participate in this thread if it was a constructive debate about culture of governance but I see it's nothing but an igbo lynch mobb.

You're here trying to tell us that Oshiomole cares more about his state or people than Obi less than a week from when Oshiomole was telling an impoverished widow to go and die.

[img]http://9jaamebor.files./2013/11/governoroshiomholewidowdie.jpg[/img]

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 4:17am On Dec 13, 2013
IGBO-SON:


^^^Far be it from me to rain on your parade, but that bridge was not 'built by Fashola' as you put it! It was built by Lagos tax payers of which includes Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, Ijaw, Efik, Ibibio, Annang, Itsakiri, Urhobo, etc-etc-etc.........just saying!

Is the above post the reason why you and your people have been begging for 30 long years for a little village bridge even though your worthless and crooked leaders collects taxes and allocations from you?

I'll ignore the idiotic comment and instead just say this..


One of the primary obligations of prudent and credible elected officials like Fashola is to build infrastructures like the best and the most sophisticated bridge in the whole of West Africa regardless of ethnic make up of the taxpayers that put him in office, his job is to deliver and give the taxpayers the best bang for their money which your isi ewu leaders don't know how to do.

So, going by your assertion, what about the taxpayers in your village?

Must they beg for 30years to do what fashola did with taxpayers money in less than 3 years?

What are your worthless and incompetent village governors doing with their taxpayers money?

You people come up the most i.diotic and reprehensible rubbish I swear.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 4:29am On Dec 13, 2013
The suffering in east Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHb94F1ntnY
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 4:29am On Dec 13, 2013
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 4:31am On Dec 13, 2013
Underdevelopment
not a single bridge in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukk42wLeVpI
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ichidodo: 5:50am On Dec 13, 2013
superstar1:

People are talking and a deluded Igbo is saying he is got an idea.

the fear of APC will lead to your untimely death or how does APC come into this discussion. If i pick on the school you attended and the hollow heads yanmiri lecturers that examined you and felt this empty head is worthy in learning, they will start whining as usual.
LoL.But my teachers are nothing compared to your Oluwole certified lecturers, i am guessing your yam-head cannot decipher the fact that igbos don't need Goverment to survive unlike you Offenmanus who are suddenly thrown into stark nakedd poverty anytime there is a shift in Federal attention, hence the taxation and low self- esteem evidenced 'IGR yeriba' chestbeating.Must suck not to have APC in power,doesn't it?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ichidodo: 5:59am On Dec 13, 2013
MajeMedia: You guys started this thread to insult igbos. The end result was you felt insulted and are now trying, with anything possible, to desperately bring Igbos down, which is sad. I only wanted to participate in this thread if it was a constructive debate about culture of governance but I see it's nothing but an igbo lynch mobb.

You're here trying to tell us that Oshiomole cares more about his state or people than Obi less than a week from when Oshiomole was telling an impoverished widow to go and die.

[img]http://9jaamebor.files./2013/11/governoroshiomholewidowdie.jpg[/img]
Don't mind them, that is their modus operandi they start something, if it doesn't go their way they start 'correcting' your English or in this case begin to claim Lagos.You know Lagos is their only Heaven in that sh**t hole South west.And you wonder why everyone is insisting that the yeribas are the problem with Nigeria

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 6:08am On Dec 13, 2013
The pains of the Southeast. We're suffering! We need more IGR!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAuFTBtLgkQ
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Ayekotoo(m): 6:08am On Dec 13, 2013
MajeMedia:



what do you think JAMB is measuring? Sperm count?
so having high scores in JAMB makes ones to be educated and literates? This is according to Igbo logic! despite, a lot of examination malpractices in that part of Nigeria? I said all tertiary schools in the state of ogun are more than all tertiary schools in southeast, what does that tell you?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 6:10am On Dec 13, 2013
Please! We are dying in the southeast! We need more taxes!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgBc7uCBTg
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Ayekotoo(m): 6:15am On Dec 13, 2013
MajeMedia:
LOL so now igbos speak more pidgin than yorubas? After Warri who is the champion of pidgin in Nigeria?
You're going to now tell me that Igbos aren't writers?


[img]http://farafinabooks.files./2010/08/chima.jpg[/img]
so yorubas speak pidgin than the igbos? which planet are you? most of the good Igbo writers were taught by the yoruba teachers and lecturers. you failed to ask chinua achebe before he died. you can still ask some Igbo posters here on nairaland suchas Obinoscopy, Eziachi, CFCfan, Berem, Afam4eva et all if they will be truthful to tell you.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 6:28am On Dec 13, 2013
lol I'm not going to argue if yorubas speak pidgin more than igbos because most of the non igbo english words in pidgin are yoruba. next subject
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 6:33am On Dec 13, 2013
Ayekotoo:
so having high scores in JAMB makes ones to be educated and literates? This is according to Igbo logic! despite, a lot of examination malpractices in that part of Nigeria? I said all tertiary schools in the state of ogun are more than all tertiary schools in southeast, what does that tell you?



Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Ayekotoo(m): 6:34am On Dec 13, 2013
ifechez:

The world over knows Chimamanda, but who is toad fool of oil soup?
it pained you well. ok, let's leave those in diaspora and let come back home. who are the Igbo writers here? how many of the awardees of Nigeria media merit awards recently held are igbos while the yorubas swept almost all?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 6:34am On Dec 13, 2013
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ifechez: 6:35am On Dec 13, 2013
Ayekotoo:
so yorubas speak pidgin than the igbos? which planet are you? most of the good Igbo writers were taught by the yoruba teachers and lecturers. you failed to ask chinua achebe before he died. you can still ask some Igbo posters here on nairaland suchas Obinoscopy, Eziachi, CFCfan, Berem, Afam4eva et all if they will be truthful to tell you.


So the lecturers in Ibadan wen Achebe was there are yorubas? you shld go and sit down biko. it was in the same Ibadan and lagos two Igbo men (Prof. Kenneth dike and Prof. Eni Njoku respectively) become the first Nigerian VCs and had more Igbo lecturers. why was akintola complaining abt Igbo domination in south west?

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