Queenisha:

Then let her inspect his koboko before making a decision

But how cold she have known that her tolotolo is not very accommodating?

_{Don't get me wrong, am not supporting the her, but am trying to see the situation from her side of the story.}

Ruby_Pearl:

Ok guys, maybe during the sex, she realized that his koboko was too big and she didn't want anymore. eh.

He was bruising her from the inside
How can I?
When I know the kind of man am getting into a bedroom with?

LMOA! How can she not have an idea what his abunga looks like before then? I mean we're not talking about strangers who run into each other in the hallway and after saying hello, they start tearing their clothes off. Haba!

Sisikill:

LMOA! How can she not have an idea what his abunga looks like before then? I mean we're not talking about strangers who run into each other in the hallway and after saying hello, they start tearing their clothes off. Haba!

But how can a woman know that her thing is too small or just enough?

Baxilexi:

@ruby, then a rule should be a Hot womans best friend.

you havent heard of wolf in pillow clothings

You're right about that.

I may not be right about him, that's why we take a lil risk sometimes.
I guess the woman in the story just had a bad luck

Ruby_Pearl:

But how can a woman know that her thing is too small or just enough?

what are you talking?
women daily give birth to 10 pound babies without problems.
Tolotolos are very elastic.

Sisikill:

[b]The word NO in itself is not should not be used to judge a rape situation in some cases. [/b]It's sad how many men have their names on the sex offender's list because of situations like this and once someone's name is there, there is not erasing it.

And guys should also know the kind girls they are dealing with. Not everyone who comes batting their eyelashes at you is inviting you to come sex 'em up.

But Queen. . . . isn't no the most important aspect. I mean if she says NO, then it means NO. And if he is continues to conclude his sexual desires it is rape. So what do you want her to do, bring out her camera phone and videotape the act so it will show some proof?

@ruby, risk huh, well i'm sure you know the right tin to do(math, diameter, lenght, width and momentum)


lol, stop being too graphical, you givin me terrible vibes

@ topic

I spse what she's driving at is that women shdnt put themselves in that situation. . .

if u don't want a guy, why lead him on. . . mean r pretty open with what they want anyways, so d idea that u didnt knw shdnt even arise. when u make it clear to a gut that you're not interested in sex and take away all opportunities for him to take advantage, then d issue of date rape will not even arise.

onyinye2:

But Queen. . . . isn't no the most important aspect. I mean if she says NO, then it means NO. And if he is continues to conclude his sexual desires it is rape. So what do you want her to do, bring out her camera phone and videotape the act so it will show some proof?

see what someone responded in that article

IF WOMEN EXPECT " NO MEANS NO " AS A INVIOLATE ABSOLUTE.

THEN MEN CAN EXPECT " YES MEANS YES " AS A INVIOLATE ABSOLUTE.

and I totally agree

Queenisha:

Nigerians girls usually say No when they actually mean "beg me alittle harder, I don't want to appear cheap"

LOL, yeah ruining it for us who actually mean it. . . . because of them, I've had to learn to say NO using my knuckles. I even carry a brass knuck around my neck, you know just in case i need to say HELL NO.

Check it out. . . isn't it a beaut?   I highly recomend it.

onyin, noting in life stops abruptly not even machine.

HR.hotness:

@ topic

I spse what she's driving at is that women shdnt put themselves in that situation. . .

if u don't want a guy, why lead him on. . . mean r pretty open with what they want anyways, so d idea that u didnt knw shdnt even arise. when u make it clear to a gut that you're not interested in sex and take away all opportunities for him to take advantage, then d issue of date rape will not even arise.

Exactly!
women have to take some responsibilty
It's afterall their bodies

Queenisha:

what are you talking?
women daily give birth to 10 pound babies without problems.
Tolotolos are very elastic.

Ohhhh, ok

Sisikill:

LOL, yeah ruining it for us who actually mean it. . . . because of them, I've had to learn to say NO using my knuckles. I even carry a brass knuck around my neck, you know just in case i need to say HELL NO.

Check it out. . . isn't it a beaut? I highly recomend it.

lmao!! you dey crase pkata pkata

Baxilexi:

@ruby, risk huh, well i'm sure you know the right tin to do(math, diameter, lenght, width and momentum)
lol, stop being too graphical, you givin me terrible vibes

meaning?

Baxilexi:

onyin, noting in life stops abruptly not even machine.

Im sorry but i can't except that. If i was with a dude and i saw things were getting hot N' heavy, then i might pull the plug and say i aint gonna do it. I would hope the guy would understand in ALL circumstances.

onyinye2:

But Queen. . . . isn't no the most important aspect. I mean if she says NO, then it means NO. And if he is continues to conclude his sexual desires it is rape. So what do you want her to do, bring out her camera phone and videotape the act so it will show some proof?

So you are saying that after the yes, the maybe, the giggles and the chuckles, the handling on the bed, the shirt half way down, the skirt half way up, she now says no, he should just jump off her and say "Yes Ma'am! Whatever you say!" Not even!

HR.hotness:

@ topic

I spse what she's driving at is that women shdnt put themselves in that situation. . .

if u don't want a guy, why lead him on. . . mean r pretty open with what they want anyways, so d idea that u didnt knw shdnt even arise. when u make it clear to a gut that you're not interested in sex and take away all opportunities for him to take advantage, then d issue of date rape will not even arise.

Correct! I don't see this as condoning rape, I see it as telling women to be cautious and use the brain God gave us.

Baxilexi:

onyin, noting in life stops abruptly not even machine.

Exactly.
In driving school,you're taught of "points of no return".
While driving at 40 miles and hour and the light ahead of you suddenly turns yellow then red,i t's often impossible to stop especially when it's raining, you simply go on.
That's the same thing here.

@ topic

Will we have something like self defence in rape issues too?

eg: She wanted to kill me so I raped her to neutralize her.

I guess then it's not always criminal.

HR.hotness:

@ topic

I spse what she's driving at is that women shdnt put themselves in that situation. . .

if u don't want a guy, why lead him on. . . mean r pretty open with what they want anyways, so d idea that u didnt knw shdnt even arise. when u make it clear to a gut that you're not interested in sex and take away all opportunities for him to take advantage, then d issue of date rape will not even arise.

But what about you and your guy are getting caught up and you know you aint into having sex. Doesn't matter what the situation or position you are in. . . . the guy should know that NO means NO.

Sisikill:

So you are saying that after the yes, the maybe, the giggles and the chuckles, the handling on the bed, the shirt half way down, the skirt half way up, she now says no, he should just jump off her and say "Yes Ma'am! Whatever you say!" Not even!

You darn skippy!

michelin89:

@ topic

Will we have something like self defence in rape issues too?

eg: She wanted to kill me so I raped her to neutralize her.

I guess then it's not always criminal.

lol. . . wonder how that wld work  

wait till you become a victim, then you will know the difference

@ruby, so you dont get bruses

graphical; what if she didnt know here   was small,

que. doesnt she take a bath?, if so how come she not know z size?

onyinye2:

But what about you and your guy are getting caught up and you know you aint into having sex. Doesn't matter what the situation or position you are in. . . . the guy should know that NO means NO.

why wld u go so far if u aren't going to go all d way. . .

d issue with date rape is that its usually guys u've just met. harmless flirting is ok but why go with him to his hotel room if u hav no plans of going all d way

onyinye2:

I'm sorry but i can't except that. If i was with a dude and i saw things were getting hot N' heavy, then i might pull the plug and say i aint going to do it. I would hope the guy would understand in ALL circumstances.

It looks like we're talking of different things.
If all she wanted was petting and not sex, she should make it clear and if he forces her it's rape.
I'm talking of a situation where sex is on both of their minds and after the man has inserted she says no.
That is a point of no return
Let her grit her teeth and count sheep _{or goats}

Queenisha:

Let her grit her teeth and count sheep _{or goats}

Baxilexi:

@ruby, so you don't get bruses

graphical; what if she didnt know here was small,

que. doesnt she take a bath?, if so how come she not know z size?

Of course I get bruises, am human.

I take a bath everyday, and I still dnt know

Queenisha:

It looks like we're talking of different things.
If all she wanted was petting and not sex, she should make it clear and if he forces her it's rape.
I'm talking of a situation where sex is on both of their minds and after the man has inserted she says no.
That is a point of no return
Let her grit her teeth and count sheep _{or goats}

LMAO!!!
Im sorry but that is rape. In any point in time she says No and he continues. . . . he is a rapist. Simple as that.

AO FOSTER:

wait till you become a victim, then you will know the difference

If I willingly followed a man into his hotel room,laying on his bed and watching TV then we start handling one another, I have become awilling participant.

Queenisha:

If I willingly followed a man into his hotel room,laying on his bed and watching TV then we start handling one another, I have become awilling participant.

My sentiments exactly and i bet thats what Helen meant!

@onyin, am not so sure bout that. if your not ready for something you should even probe.

sex works that way, thats the only thing many people/i donot have a guard against, so i dont even get into an enclosed space if i'm not ready for it.

you should understand its a good thing, when done at the right time and with some one you trust.

Sisikill:

Please explain.

I mean if a woman accuses a guy of rape, then its up to him to prove himself innocent.

Sometimes its not always about whether or not a woman led a man on. A lot of (black) men have fallen into this trap, which is very unfortunate. Life isnt always fair.

oyibo women especially- if they say stop then stop. Even then the man may still get into legal trouble like Kobe Bryant.
Black women may overlook a lot of things, but not every woman is like that.

seeu:

When a girl says "No" she has to react in a way that will convince the guy that she really mean "No".  you know, a girl's No can mean Yes at times.  So, the way she react will pass the message to the guy that she is not in the mood to have the act.

This is the exact line of a rapist when i was watching Law and Order: SVU

Baxilexi:

@onyin, am not so sure bout that. if your not ready for something you should even probe.
sex works that way, thats the only thing many people/i donot have a guard against, so i don't even get into an enclosed space if i'm not ready for it.
you should understand its a good thing, when done at the right time and with some one you trust.

Im just saying that in any point and time i don't want to go through with act. . . . the man should understand my view or else be deemed as a rapist for the rest of his mortal life.