carmelily:

let's vote to expel joshjosh from school! na p[b]aulipopo[/b] be lecturer not you! start your own thread.

naomijt:

I concur!!!

helpee:

if you have ever tried to start a business, you will know that it takes both Gut and God to make it in a highly competitive area like your so called church business.
my only advice for you is from MTN, GO START SOMETHING TOO rather than criticise others

vislabraye:

sHmmm. Nice write up.It reminds me of [b]Dan Brown's conspiracy theory.

KunleOshob:

I happen to be a sucessful business man and i have been running my own business for the past eight years, that aside i have diversified into four different areas of business, so i don't need any juvenile telling me what it takes to run a business.

KunleOshob:

I happen to be a sucessful business man and i have been running my own business for the past eight years, that aside i have diversified into four different areas of business, so i don't need any juvenile telling me what it takes to run a business.

texazzpete:

@joshjosh What manner of Christian are you, anyway? Gamine just said she has become disillusioned with some 'Men of God' in Nigeria, and she's decided to seek guidance from God's word. In other words, the Bible.

brein:

Nairalanders, I think this humble poster is kinly leading ya all to a DUNG HILL, because there;s no where in the world where  you be a SUPER RICH , HOLY whatsoever, in that simple manner, T

The THeory is Work and Eat!!! DOnt Work DOnt Eat!.


LOL.

BRB.

MustardInc:

NAIRALAND NEEDS TO BE CENSORED!!!
THIS GUY NEEDS TO BE TRACED, ARRESTED AND SENTENCED (yes SENTENCED) [/b]

to LIFE-IMPRISONMENT [/size][/color]
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READ:2 TIMOTHY 3

texazzpete:

@joshjosh
What manner of Christian are you, anyway?
Gamine just said she has become disillusioned with some 'Men of God' in Nigeria, and she's decided to seek guidance from God's word. In other words, the Bible.

She hasn't said she's renouncing her faith or no longer remaining a christian. yet you launch into a sermon of 'derailing'. are you now insinuating that the focus should not be on God, but on the heralded men of God?
please answer


This topic is interesting anyway. I find it funny that Christians in Nigeria cannot see how far they have failed. Were nigerian christians to give 1% of what they give out as tithes to charity, Nigeria would have been a much better place. at least Charity is mentioned far more times in the New Testament than tithing, yet these 'men of God' do not emphasize this nearly as much.

Even people we claim to be 'evil' are often far more loving to their neighbour than us christians. If Angelina Jolie can donate thousands of Mosquito nets to african kids, yet all some of us holy people can think about is how to contrinute to buy Pastor yet another jeep, then i don't see how there's hope.


A prominent 'Man of God' is reported to have said that 'God told him that Nigeria will be the greatest country in the world'. How bloody holy is that?
Chris Okotie told us all that God told him to run for President. yeah right.

Nigeria1@;:

paulipopo 


sorry to disappoint you, pastor adeboye have no access to the redeemed church money. We can not order for any of the church money. Please do your reseach very well. the money of the redeemed church world wide is control by a board.  I know you may be abroad. where people over here are not obeying this law. Many reason,  some of us like me ,  complain. Expect if the law as change in the redeemed. I do not know what they have as a law now. No redeemed pastor or member of his family  is expected to have access to church funds.  Each church were ask many years ago to set up a board. And this board were expect to control their church funds.

I know it is not be done too,  But I think if i am correct pastor adeboye still do  not have access to redeemed funds. the board controls the money.

Nigeria1@;:

paulipopo


sorry to disappoint you, pastor adeboye have no access to the redeemed church money. he can not order for any of the church money. Please do your reseach very well. the money of the redeemed church world wide is control by a board. I know you may be abroad. where people over here are not obeying this law. Many reason, some of us like me , complain. Expect if the law as change in the redeemed. I do not know what they have as a law now. No redeemed pastor or member of his family is expected to have access to church funds. Each church were ask many years ago to set up a board. And this board were expect to control their church funds.

I know it is not done too, But I think if i am correct pastor adeboye still do not have access to redeemed funds. the board controls the money.

Nigeria1@;:

paulipopo


sorry to disappoint you, pastor adeboye have no access to the redeemed church money. he can not order for any of the church money. Please do your reseach very well. the money of the redeemed church world wide is control by a board. I know you may be abroad. where people over here are not obeying this law. Many reason, some of us like me , complain. Expect if the law as change in the redeemed. I do not know what they have as a law now. No redeemed pastor or member of his family is expected to have access to church funds. Each church were ask many years ago to set up a board. And this board were expect to control their church funds.

I know it is not done too, But I think if i am correct pastor adeboye still do not have access to redeemed funds. the board controls the money.

sleekymag:

I've been following this thread from the first page and i understand where the poster is coming from. The 48 Laws of Power written by Robert Greene talks about how to acquire this sort of power and transform it into whatever you wish, whether wealth accumulation or just a leader with unquestioned followership, and also how to prevent being manipulated by people who tend to use these laws whether knowingly or just instinctively. Maybe the poster may have at some point read this book or similar books and thought he could analyse everything. Some of the laws include but are not limited to the following:

Law 12 - Use Selective Honesty and Generosity to Disarm your Victim (One sincere and honest move will cover dozens of dishonest ones; can be used to catch and deceive unsuspecting suckers [magas]).
Law 13 - When asking for help, appeal to people's self interest, never to their mercy or gratitude (a sure-fire way for anyone to make wealth, pastors or ordinary businessmen).
Law 27 - Play on people's need to believe to create a cultlike following (people have an overwhelming desire to believe in something).
Law 30 - Make your accomplishments seem effortless (Your actions must seem natural and executed with ease).
Law 31 - Play to people's fantasies (The truth is often avoided because it is ugly and unpleasant).
Law 43 - Work on the hearts and the minds of others (You must seduce others in wanting to move in your direction).
Law 46 -Never appear too perfect
Law 48 - Assume formlessness
etc.

Whilst some of the poster's claims can be said to be true, it is wrong to entirely claim that these men are in business for the sole aim of making money, or would the case have been different if they were not commanding that much wealth and power which they do.

NOTE: THE LINE BETWEEN TRUTH AND SEEMING TRUTH IS QUITE NARROW. At some point you could get confused and may start questioning your pastor's motives and integrity. The devil uses this tool to further confuse the innocent and unsuspecting christian in search of truth but brainwashed time and again by such posts as have been seen on this website. The result, people like some on this forum begin to lose faith and resolve towards personal christianinty. I could go on and on, but bottomline is that the devil's aim is to confuse more people.

In your church, rather than worship the man of God, worship God and take God's word as law, the man of God is just like you and of course could exhibit some flaws from time to time which may cause you to look down on his calling and ministry, but it doesn't mean that he's not sent by God into ministry. Do your own discovery, salvation is personal. Wealth is good, if men of God are genuinely rich, so, where's the problem there? Does it mean they aren't sent? Must they e poor and non-influential?