Onlytruth: I ALWAYS hated divisions, and this state creation will never get my support even if it rectifies the marginalization of SE at the center.

Just see what is about to happen: people are about to be excised into a state they clearly don't want. I am yet to meet any Anambra person that wants to belong to any new state. The thieving politicians in the "national conference" are mainly representing themselves.

I also often wonder why my Imo brothers want another state carved for them. I believe that current Imo state is great AS IS and will only grow greater if left alone. I feel the same for Enugu (Adada thingy). Who says that Enugu can't develop and use the resources in Nsukka axis?

But by far the most laughable aspect of it all is that we are being told that the new states will practice "true federalism". Haha.
The older (bigger and strong ) states weren't allowed to practice it, it is the new tiny states that can fund state police (which must be included in any reasonable true federalism).

Folks are just deluded, honestly.
They should just leave Anambra alone. We are tired of divisions and sharing of "national cake". We want to work biko.
Our future is in our hands.

Proud Anambra son.

pazienza:

You are not making any sense, perhaps your long period away from Nairaland is affecting you.

In an independent Igboland,your stance would make sense. But in multi ethnic, multi cultural Nigeria, your stance against more Igbo states reeks of political naivety and gross ignorance of Nigeria's state of origin,quota system and federal character politics.


Infact your suggestion of non proliferation of Igbo states while the rest of Nigeria gets more states is nothing but political and economic suicide for Ndiigbo, and i sincerely hope we don't have people with this kind of your mind set,ever manage the affairs of Ndiigbo.

Choi! Ala ekwela Ngwele gba aji!

CFCfan:
I agree that it's an absolute nonsense to create more states. Already most of the 36 states depend solely on the monthly handouts from the FG.

MissMeiya:

You clearly can't read.

pazienza:

I obviously lack comprehension skills.

pazienza:

All the states,except Lagos,cannot survive without monthly handouts from the FG.

So, viability cannot be an issue here, unless we are willing to scrap all the 35 states. But if we are not going to do that, then we must give every region equal number of states, [size=14pt]lets all keep eating the money in equality and justice, until further notice[/size], and when the time comes,lets all partake in the debt.

It would be hypocrisy, denying people equality and justice,in the name of viability, while you yourself enjoy the proceeds from your non viable state.

If you so much care about viability, scrap your non viabile state, but if you cannot,then [size=14pt]don't stop others from getting their own non viable state[/size].

pazienza:

All the states,except Lagos,cannot survive without monthly handouts from the FG.

So, viability cannot be an issue here, unless we are willing to scrap all the 35 states. But if we are not going to do that, then we must give every region equal number of states, lets all keep eating the money in equality and justice, until further notice, and when the time comes,lets all partake in the debt.

It would be hypocrisy, denying people equality and justice,in the name of viability, while you yourself enjoy the proceeds from your non viable state.

If you so much care about viability, scrap your non viabile state, but if you cannot,then don't stop others from getting there own non viable state.

pazienza:

All the states,except Lagos,cannot survive without monthly handouts from the FG.

So, viability cannot be an issue here, unless we are willing to scrap all the 35 states. But if we are not going to do that, then we must give every region equall number of states, lets all keep eating the money in equality and justice, until further notice.

It would be hypocrisy, denying people equality and justice,in the name of viability, while you yourself enjoy the proceeds from your non viable state.

If you so much care about viability, scrap your non viabile state, but if you cannot,then don't stop others from getting there own non viable state.

MadCow1:


Have you heard of Rivers State, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Ogun and some Northern States?!

The states that cant survive without government Handouts are mostly states in the West and a few up North. Cross River and Maybe Edo State in the South cos their tourism is dead and I dont see what them Niggas is adding to the Polity.

MadCow1:


Have you heard of Rivers State, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Ogun and some Northern States?!

The states that cant survive without government Handouts are mostly states in the West and a few up North. Cross River and Maybe Edo State in the South cos their tourism is dead and I dont see what them Niggas is adding to the Polity.

oluamid:

When you say *"most states in the west and north" and you conviniently left out the southeastern states you make me laugh. I guess you are privy to some statistics the rest of us are yet to see.

CFCfan:
If it were possible, I would have called for the merging of some of the states; but the reality is that non of the politicians would approve of it.
BTW, I'm from Anambra. Onitsha, Nnewi and some other towns can potentially generate the required IGR to make the State less dependent on federal allocations.

MissMeiya:

This is the dumbest and most shameful thing I've seen on Nairaland yet. It's time to log off for awhile.

oluamid:

When you say *"most states in the west and north" and you conviniently left out the southeastern states you make me laugh. I guess you are privy to some statistics the rest of us are yet to see.

pazienza:


The oil in Rivers,Akwa ibom and the rest of Niger delta states are not theirs, they belong to federal government,who in her benevolence spirit share the money realized from the crude oil to the rest of the states in Nigeria,while giving the Niger delta states a lionshare of the crude oil proceeds.

Rivers,Akwa ibom,Bayelsa and the rest of Niger delta are non viable without FG monthly allocation, their internal generated revenues can't sustain them,as there are little or no economic/industrial activities going on there.


Ogun? Haha! You must be joking, they will run bankrupt without FG monthly allocations, even as it stands,they are in debt already, even with the monthly allocations from the FG.


Northern states? Haha! This must be a joke.

Maybe in the future, when the crude oil dries up, states would find means to become viable, but at the present, none of them are, except maybe Lagos state.

Lol..

Yeah!! I have heard about this Oil belonging to the Federal Government thing before.

Well, thats not what I am here to debate, but the fact remains if we split up, that oil belongs to the territory in which it is obtained.

pazienza:

You are the dumb one here. You reap the proceeds from your non viable states schemed to favour you, you never protest for their disolution, but you shout NON VIABILITY,when others seek for their own states for justice and equity.

You are the dumb hypocrite. Now,move.

Obiagelli: in all these na nursery school pupils i pity pass, how dem wan read this state and capital?

pazienza:

You are not making any sense, perhaps your long period away from Nairaland is affecting you.

In an independent Igboland,your stance would make sense. But in multi ethnic, multi cultural Nigeria, your stance against more Igbo states reeks of political naivety and gross ignorance of Nigeria's state of origin,quota system and federal character politics.


Infact your suggestion of non proliferation of Igbo states while the rest of Nigeria gets more states is nothing but political and economic suicide for Ndiigbo, and i sincerely hope we don't have people with this kind of your mind set,ever manage the affairs of Ndiigbo.

Choi! Ala ekwela Ngwele gba aji!

mandax:

99% of Igbos that cry against new state creation are those very comfortable in their state capitals, most probably with their areas exploiting others in the same state. If not, is there any Igbo who does not understand the quota system that has made many qualified Igbos not get admission in federal education institutions, military, police, etc? Who is the Igbo that does not understand that people in SE are seriously under represented in the parliament? Who is the Igbo that does not hear that the SE has been losing huge sums of federal allocation and investment due to shortage of number of states in the SE?

Chino72 with his more than 10 NL monikers.

Chino72 with his more than 10 NL handles is behind all the nonsense arguments among Igbos on this thread, I suspect including the first comment on this thread Bliss4life. The NC has slated the states to be created in SE, I do not see why all these washing Igbo dirty linen in public.

MadCow1:


Dont laugh sir.. All I did was judge States by their Economics according to what I was thought;

South Eastern States;

Enugu has Coal..
Anambra has Commerce and Industries
Abia Has Commerce (Aba)
Ebonyi has Agriculture.
Imo State has Oil and Gas.


I said 'Some' Northern States. Not too sure but I know some have solid Minerals and Agriculture.

The South South States: Almost all have Oil except Cross River and I think Edo (Not too sure).

The West, just a few have Cocoa. The remaining say they produce 'Human Resources' because they have plenty Profs. The rest are just leeches. The only Western State of real Value is Lagos and being a Former Seat of Government has alot of role to play for its current status and secondly being a 'Port' state.

MissMeiya:

He didn't.

MadCow1:


Have you heard of Rivers State, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Ogun and some Northern States?!

The states that cant survive without government Handouts are mostly states in the West and a few up North. Cross River and Maybe Edo State in the South cos their tourism is dead and I dont see what them Niggas is adding to the Polity.

oluamid:

"Few cocoa" huh? That few cocoa is the reason Nigeria is one of the major cocoa exporter in the world and it will turn a major money spinner if properly managed. And whatever happened to other resources like Timber, agriculture (both food and cash crops) and bitumen? Besides, don't even get me started on the oil. The only Western state who may need to depend on others to survive is Ekiti and like you rightly said, the state has a lot of Human capital which is currently being wasted.

Below is a list of natural resources available in Eastern and Western states. Please compare and contrast. Additionally, check the link and see what the so-called "inept" Northern states have in abundance.

Overall, I'm not trying to put one region of the country above the other. My aim is to highlight to you that all the states in the country have the potential to be economically independent if the will and drive to achieve such is there.
Unfortunately, as long as there's still oyel money flowing into our lazy and clueless politicians' pockets, we would not have true
development new states or no.

Okay!!

Now I must ask, Are you intentionally fhucking with Me or is it that you cant read or you cant understand what you read?!

Now read this slowly; "A FEW HAVE COCOA" is different from "A FEW COCOA".



Now I can agree that every state has the potential to be economically independent, but I am not basing my post of 'pontential' but on what is currently applicable. Forgive me for not adding Timber. The West actually has a shitload of Timber and stones. But not all that states in the West are profitable. The Middle Belt States have agriculture I believe.. Gboko Yams ring a bell.

Anyways, I am not in support of creating new states, if anything, reduce the states we currently have and run the federal system of government like it should be.

oluamid:

This was what he said ma.





I don't see any Eastern state there, do you?

Chino72: It appears you do not get it! What I said is that you can create as many states as you want out of your state but do not touch any part of Anambra!

We Anambrans do not want any part of us touched in whatever guise either state creation. Anambra is a monolithic and homogenous state. Leave us out of your silly state creation. No part of Anambra wants out! You will be shocked when referendum is conducted in Ihiala!

It feels great being an Anambran!

mandax:
You cause confusion to Igbo with your several handles, that's all.
No doubt, you eat, sleep, dream on NL 247 exhibiting your inferiority complex? You have no job?

You are no true Igbo or history is strange to you; you said it, you do not come from Ihiala: it was even Ihiala people that asked to be returned to their kin in Imo West zone through the proposed sixth state. Ihiala leaders joined in the demand for Anim/Njaba state. Most of Ihiala belonged to old Orlu division until a few years ago. Most of Ihiala is still in Orlu Catholic diocese till today. Go siddon.

Onlytruth: I ALWAYS hated divisions, and this state creation will never get my support even if it rectifies the marginalization of SE at the center.

Just see what is about to happen: people are about to be excised into a state they clearly don't want. I am yet to meet any Anambra person that wants to belong to any new state. The thieving politicians in the "national conference" are mainly representing themselves.

I also often wonder why my Imo brothers want another state carved for them. I believe that current Imo state is great AS IS and will only grow greater if left alone. I feel the same for Enugu (Adada thingy). Who says that Enugu can't develop and use the resources in Nsukka axis?

But by far the most laughable aspect of it all is that we are being told that the new states will practice "true federalism". Haha.
The older (bigger and strong ) states weren't allowed to practice it, it is the new tiny states that can fund state police (which must be included in any reasonable true federalism).

Folks are just deluded, honestly.
They should just leave Anambra alone. We are tired of divisions and sharing of "national cake". We want to work biko.
Our future is in our hands.

Proud Anambra son.

MadCow1:


Dont laugh sir.. All I did was judge States by their Economics according to what I was thought;

South Eastern States;

Enugu has Coal..
Anambra has Commerce and Industries
Abia Has Commerce (Aba)
Ebonyi has Agriculture.
Imo State has Oil and Gas.


I said 'Some' Northern States. Not too sure but I know some have solid Minerals and Agriculture.

The South South States: Almost all have Oil except Cross River and I think Edo (Not too sure).

The West, just a few have Cocoa. The remaining say they produce 'Human Resources' because they have plenty Profs. The rest are just leeches. The only Western State of real Value is Lagos and being a Former Seat of Government has alot of role to play for its current status and secondly being a 'Port' state.

SonOfEl:

for the record, Abia State has commerce, oil and gas, and agriculture.