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Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Alfred234(m): 10:45am On Jul 08, 2014 |
njokusboy: Same old overflogged, baseless argument.... The truth is as simple as ABC, NOT EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN CRACKING METAPHORS OR LISTENING TO PUNCHLINES.... Its the same way everyone aint interested in poetry... The animosity here is due to the fact that the makers and listeners of this genre of music are not willing to accept that other people do not share same interest.... Nd what is real rap/hip-hop, music is an art and real is relative.... I do not care what mode nine has to say, if I want words of wisdom, I'd pick a book... I can't just waste my time listening to a 10-20 track CD, with similar boring tune, drab choruses and verses with "words of wisdom"... I might just as well pick up a poem book.... Truth is, most of this artistes are not versatile, they don't go commercial because they cannot go commercial, its not because they don't want to... Let's face it, mode9 cannot sing to save his life... Versatile people like eminem, kendrick, nd MI (when he did safe, not now), have made nice tunes with sweet choruses whilst making sense at the same time.... The world is not static, change is a constant, one must adapt... Mode9 and the others may be more lyrical, but phyno, olamide etc are better musicians....#Word 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by symbian03(m): 10:47am On Jul 08, 2014 |
acenazt: Even in the US. Who listens to Nas,Mos Def,KRS ONE,Talib Kweli,Rass Kass,2Pac,Immortal Technique any more?? Every body's busy listening to Useless music by the likes of 2Chainz,Future,Migos,Asop Ferg,Rich Homie quan. Its the generation. Times change and so does taste and interests. Remove 2PAC from that list before I punch you. 2PAC - best rapper who ever came to this world. In fact, anything besides 2pac and biggie na wack 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 10:47am On Jul 08, 2014 |
iceberylin: Fhuck Lyrics fam, Nneka sang a song that sounded like she was convulsing and Niggas jumped on that shiit, tagged it 'Comtemporary' and downloaded it. I doubt Niggas be listening to the lyrics in the club trying to make sense out of it, they just want a nice catchy hook that they can easily remember and if the beats are sick, they would dance their socks off. In Naija music, its not about lyrics all the time, Mafikizolos 'Khona' went viral in Africa, Many Niggas still dont know what that shiit means and they dont give a fhuck what it means. Good Music is unique to the Listener. Like for me, ALL gospel Music sound like the are on the same beats with different lyrics. |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Djicemob: 10:48am On Jul 08, 2014 |
njokusboy: Same old overflogged, baseless argument.... The truth is as simple as ABC, NOT EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN CRACKING METAPHORS OR LISTENING TO PUNCHLINES.... Its the same way everyone aint interested in poetry... The animosity here is due to the fact that the makers and listeners of this genre of music are not willing to accept that other people do not share same interest.... Nd what is real rap/hip-hop, music is an art and real is relative.... I do not care what mode nine has to say, if I want words of wisdom, I'd pick a book... I can't just waste my time listening to a 10-20 track CD, with similar boring tune, drab choruses and verses with "words of wisdom"... I might just as well pick up a poem book.... Truth is, most of this artistes are not versatile, they don't go commercial because they cannot go commercial, its not because they don't want to... Let's face it, mode9 cannot sing to save his life... Versatile people like eminem, kendrick, nd MI (when he did safe, not now), have made nice tunes with sweet choruses whilst making sense at the same time.... The world is not static, change is a constant, one must adapt... Mode9 and the others may be more lyrical, but phyno, olamide etc are better musicians....[b][/b]Bro,Which is more boring:Listening to Rap verses with "words of wisdom" or reading through a poem book? Gonna learn to appreciate real hiphop from the heart. |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 10:49am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Djicemob: [/b]Bro,Which is more boring:Listening to Rap verses with "words of wisdom" or reading through a poem book? Gonna learn to appreciate real hiphop from the heart. [b]I would pick a Poem over Rap any day. |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by gsalvatore: 10:49am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Hip-hop? You mean the Bastard son of Jazz/Classicals? |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by acenazt: 10:50am On Jul 08, 2014 |
ElFenomeno1:damn man I didn't say people have stopped. I meant The Mainstream Is more appealing to the Younger Generation. If you Look well Gangsters aren't as common as then. I am 18 and I still Listen to the Likes of Immortal Tecnique,Ice Cube,Big L,Chino XL,Cannibus,Eminem,krs One,Jay Z,AOTP,Mobb Deep,Dre,Nas,Mos Def and all them Old Rappers. 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Anacksunamun: 10:53am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Djicemob:And this my friend is the annoying and utterly disgusting truth of it all. If Ice Prince is the best Rapper that could represent Naija in BET, it boldly shows that HIP-HOP is officially dead, no offence. I'm not hating, but Ice Prince is a wack wrapper. The only song in his current album worth listening to is 'Stars and Light'. From Aboki, Jambo down to Whiskey, all are craps!! I mean WTF!! How can Jesse Jagz classic album not be considered? WTF is wrong with BET? The best rap album is Jesse Jagz album, Ice Prince's FOZ album is a monumental heap of shitt!! I'm still clueless as to what sane rapheads see in Ice Prince. When it comes to lyrical prowess, I'll take Phenom and Vector over that dude. I'm not even talking of M.I. or Mode9, those ones are way above his league. Ice Prince is nothing but a commercial rapper with no wordplays or strong lyrics. Just bleh!! 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by iceberylin(m): 10:54am On Jul 08, 2014 |
MadCow1:last bullet... people now listen to the beat instead of the lyrics of the song... |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Djicemob: 10:56am On Jul 08, 2014 |
MadCow1:Lol.really? Then u shouldnt think of urself as a music lover then.Better stick to the troubles of reading and deciphering poems. 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by BRAV0O(m): 10:56am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Still patiently waiting for that rap messiah to bring back the real hip hop rap to nigeria entertainment... All of those we have around this days are just pure dope fiends , wack of the 1st order! |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by symbian03(m): 10:57am On Jul 08, 2014 |
PHfinest: What are you insinuating? Or are you one of these people that dont appreciate the work Phyno, Olamide, Brymo, MI and co are doing? Dreamer |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 10:57am On Jul 08, 2014 |
iceberylin: Lyrics without Beats = Poem. 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by iceberylin(m): 11:01am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Anacksunamun: And this my friend is the annoying and utterly disgusting truth of it all. If Ice Prince is the best Rapper that could represent Naija in BET, it boldly shows that HIP-HOP is officially dead, no offence. I'm not hating, but Ice Prince is a wack wrapper. The only song in his current album worth listening to is 'Stars and Light'. From Aboki, Jambo down to Whiskey, all are craps!! I mean WTF!! How can Jesse Jagz classic album not be considered? WTF is wrong with BET? The best rap album is Jesse Jagz album, Ice Prince's FOZ album is a monumental heap of shitt!! I'm still cluelessas to what sane rapheads see in Ice Prince. When it comes to lyrical prowess, I'll take Phenom and Vector of that dude. I'm not even talking of M.I. or Mode9, those ones are way above his league. Ice Prince is nothing but a commercial rapper with no wordplays or strong lyrics. Just bleh!!one million likes for u bro... just when i taught i was alone... listening to phenom ft Mi 6foot.. noticed that phenom killed it with awesome punchlines... tho Mi abaga was suberp also.. check out shot on shots by iceprince was just shouting... |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by BRAV0O(m): 11:02am On Jul 08, 2014 |
The nigerians I use to know all love rap music we just want a good rap! |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 11:04am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Djicemob: Lol.really? Then u shouldnt think of urself as a music lover then.Better stick to the troubles of reading and deciphering poems. Poems are way more vast than Rap music in intellectual content and scope of what they cover. #No Contest. The diciphering aspect makes for an even more interesting intellectual exercise. Rap on the other hand is limited in scope of topics covered. I am yet to hear any Rap that talks about the sufferings of the Girl Child, But I have heard my mian Nigga tell his Yup! I have heard rap talk more about Guns and not snitching in the hood and hating on Police and other such stuff ad even talk about going to jail like Jail was the new Marriots Hotel for street Niggas. If you are in tune with the Gangsta side of you more than the actual tre life you living everyday (as a Nigerian), then Hip Hop rap is your Poem. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by iceberylin(m): 11:05am On Jul 08, 2014 |
BRAV0O: Still patiently waiting for that rap messiah to bring back the real hip hop rap to nigeria entertainment... All of those we have around this days are just pure dope fiends , wack of the 1st order!Our very own Mi Abaga |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by musicwriter(m): 11:06am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Though I don't do Rap but you're absolutely correct about Nigerians/listeners. But the problem is not Nigerian listeners per se but the radio stations and TV's have totally lost it. Remember it's Nigerians that are also working at he radio stations and TV's!. If the radio stations and TVs don't know good music then Nigerians at large wouldn't get to hear good music. Because you can only listen to what you ear. I've done an album that's making waves in South Africa, Ghana, Kenya, yet here in Nigeria few people known me because radio stations prefer playing rubbish which you call commercial rap/azonto or whatever you call it. Check me out on iTunes at https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/african-school/id891150570 I do modern reggae. Check it out! |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Nihilist: 11:07am On Jul 08, 2014 |
gsalvatore: Hip-hop? You mean the Bastard son of Jazz/Classicals? Smoking Aces 2 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 11:07am On Jul 08, 2014 |
musicwriter: Though I don't do Rap but you're absolutely correct about Nigerians/listeners. But the problem is not Nigerian listeners per se but the radio stations and TV's have totally lost it. Remember it's Nigerians that are also working at he radio stations and TV's!. If the radio stations and TVs don't know good music then Nigerians at large wouldn't get to hear good music. Because you can only listen to what you ear. Define what constitute Good Music. |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by BRAV0O(m): 11:09am On Jul 08, 2014 |
iceberylin:mi try small with his lyrics , tho some of his lyrics wack some tyms... |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by englishmart(m): 11:09am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Not when we have phyno. MI don lost |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Testerfuze(m): 11:09am On Jul 08, 2014 |
MadCow1:. Agreed with you jhor...the guy lost it since his second album M.I 2 |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by kevdiggie7: 11:10am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Djicemob: Ever wondered why rap artistes like Modenine,kahli Abdu,poe,loose kaynon,pherowhuz etc are not been taking seriously in the industry(atleast by the majority of music listeners) today? Meanwhile rap/afro-pop acts like Ice-prince,olamide,phyno are seen as the face of rap music in nigeria today? Yea,your guess is as good as mine,real rap is slowly getting extinct in nigeria.But hey! It would be quite unfair to blame the artistes that adapted to change and placed music hustle first,which in-turn puts food on their table.Of course who wouldnt want to drive the latest cars and build the biggest mansion? I would. @DJ ICE-MOB Really you have your facts and you are quite right but I must tell you something, everyone has got their rap style, the likes of them Ice Prince tell our Nigerian stories and to an extent they speak the minds of the Nigerian youths, whom as you said have become lazy. lol really, Nigerians have gotten so stressed to the point that we just want to have some sort of break so we all just wanna dance and smile. The state of the nation is enough to decipher already. Really, if them Modenine wanna sell, they should tell stories of how shit goes down in our Nigerian streets and not give us some american history which we arent familiar with. truth be said, we want to hear our story. They do american rap, we have our african rap. If fela hadnt developed afro beat he would have ended up a regular artist doing the regular jazz but when he infused our african struggles into it, the world listened. lets be honest, Nas himself would prefer to hear something he hasnt heard before. |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by DahtDopeBoi(m): 11:10am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Y'all keep saying they (naija commercial rappers) are doing what tell do for the money but let's look @ it from this point of view, they ve all gotten commercial success that they went for, so why can't they do some real hip hop tracks or put out a real hip hop mixtape... Maybe they can't do real hip hop IMO... |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by musicwriter(m): 11:10am On Jul 08, 2014 |
MadCow1: Good music is what the OP is complaining about. Good music is the reason he opened this thread. |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by iceberylin(m): 11:11am On Jul 08, 2014 |
MadCow1:i love poems tho... buh i prefer em with beat.. thatz why i prefer the Abaga's jesse n Mi |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by BRAV0O(m): 11:13am On Jul 08, 2014 |
musicwriter: Though I don't do Rap but you're absolutely correct about Nigerians/listeners. But the problem is not Nigerian listeners per se but the radio stations and TV's have totally lost it. Remember it's Nigerians that are also working at he radio stations and TV's!. If the radio stations and TVs don't know good music then Nigerians at large wouldn't get to hear good music. Because you can only listen to what you ear.I just decide not agree with you tho I understand the angle you ar coming from but when we talk of good rap music as nothing to do with all those you mention... I remember when nigerians dance to many rap tunes without even understand the lyrics, if we are lucky to have one good rapper that can represent what real rap stand for one day? I believ then we'll realize that making real hiphop is not only about what we listen to this days ... |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by BRAV0O(m): 11:16am On Jul 08, 2014 |
DahtDopeBoi: Y'all keep saying they (naija commercial rappers) are doing what tell do for the money but let's look @ it from this point of view, they ve all gotten commercial success that they went for, so why can't they do some real hip hop tracks or put out a real hip hop mixtape... Maybe they can't do real hip hop IMO...they just can't do it , daz all! Some tyms if I watch many S/A stuff i'll just smh for nigeria hip hop artist! 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by iceberylin(m): 11:16am On Jul 08, 2014 |
BRAV0O: mi try small with his lyrics , tho some of his lyrics wack some tyms...no one is perfect bro... uhmmmm listen to Crowd mentality imperfect me Safe One Naira damnn...that's where mi Abaga stole my heart.. 1 Like |
Re: Is Real Hip-hip/rap Facing Extinction In Nigeria? by Djicemob: 11:17am On Jul 08, 2014 |
MadCow1:Rap is limited in scope of topic covered? Now i know u been sleepin on real rap and artistes like:Lupe fiasco,Jcole,Talib kwali,immortal tech,our very own modenine(with "cry)and so on.Bro stick to ur 2chainz,rich gangs,Asap rockys and all em gangsta wannabes. |
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