MadCow1:



Poems are way more vast than Rap music in intellectual content and scope of what they cover. #No Contest.

The diciphering aspect makes for an even more interesting intellectual exercise.

Rap on the other hand is limited in scope of topics covered. I am yet to hear any Rap that talks about the sufferings of the Girl Child, But I have heard my mian Nigga tell his Girls Biitches to pull their panties to the side and work his diick like a lollipop...

Yup! I have heard rap talk more about Guns and not snitching in the hood and hating on Police and other such stuff ad even talk about going to jail like Jail was the new Marriots Hotel for street Niggas.


If you are in tune with the Gangsta side of you more than the actual tre life you living everyday (as a Nigerian), then Hip Hop rap is your Poem.

daryoor:



ur fada is dumber

NickiRoman: Real hip-hop is long gone in Nigeria..So it doesn't matter,every Artiste is going with the trend of producing Club songs.. It still won't stop me from listening to Real Hip-Hop Artiste like Tu'pac,Nas,Papoose,Jay-Z,Biggy,Mc Lyte,Lauryn Hill,Twalib kwali,Snoop Dog,Eminem,Common,Mos Deff,Andre 3000,LL Cool J,Dr Dre,e.t.c



*Plays Nas-It ain't hard to tell*

njokusboy: Same old overflogged, baseless argument.... The truth is as simple as ABC, NOT EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN CRACKING METAPHORS OR LISTENING TO PUNCHLINES.... Its the same way everyone aint interested in poetry... The animosity here is due to the fact that the makers and listeners of this genre of music are not willing to accept that other people do not share same interest.... Nd what is real rap/hip-hop, music is an art and real is relative.... I do not care what mode nine has to say, if I want words of wisdom, I'd pick a book... I can't just waste my time listening to a 10-20 track CD, with similar boring tune, drab choruses and verses with "words of wisdom"... I might just as well pick up a poem book.... Truth is, most of this artistes are not versatile, they don't go commercial because they cannot go commercial, its not because they don't want to... Let's face it, mode9 cannot sing to save his life... Versatile people like eminem, kendrick, nd MI (when he did safe, not now), have made nice tunes with sweet choruses whilst making sense at the same time.... The world is not static, change is a constant, one must adapt... Mode9 and the others may be more lyrical, but phyno, olamide etc are better musicians....

Creamish:

Compare how much they sell to how much gibberish sells.....we're talking about high sales..not kobo-kobo... People who appreciate good rap music are relatively scarce...and "scarce-fans" cant get u anywhere in ur career. A typical naija guy is looking for sth he can dance Azonto to..how many good rap music can u dance to? Ppl who care about lyrics are gradually being converted to gibberish-hungry fans...

Sometimes i go to music shops looking for some good'ol Bone Thugs n Harmony, Tupac...and all i see are Timaya & Iyanya.... I guess no shop wants to record a loss so they basically buy and sell trash...

BRAV0O: I understand you very well bother, is all because all our so called good rapper are not representing the real hip hop up the task, forget it we don't have good rapper in nigeria and nigeria music industry are not making real hip hop" I can still mention some tvs and radio station that broadcast under ground rap music from nigeria day and night and if you listen very well they ar all wack so no one is ready put them on sales... We need to dig all this things from the under ground, the tv or radio not broadcasting them is not a point at all.

musicwriter:

Are you a musician or just a music fan?.

Listen.

No matter the music you make, if you like you can create the best smashing hit, if the radio stations and TVs don't play it nobody will know you. Also if you like you can create rubbish but as long as the radio stations and TVs play it you would become famous overnight. Because 99.9% of people can only know their artistes from the radio and TVs. That's the way it is brother. Talking from experience.

Nihilist:
This is just an ignorant assertion especially considering that rap is essentially poetry over an instrumental..




More ignorance.... 2pac's classics Brenda's Got A Baby and Keep Ya Head Up immediately rubbish your assertions. Kendrick Lamar's Keisha's Song, J.Cole's Crooked Smile are a few songs from the golden era and current era of hip hop that come to mind.



Gangsta rap is just one genre of rap just as Metal is just a genre of Rock music. Gangsta rap offers a commentary and an inside view of the reality of life on the streets for many negroes in the western world. That life is something that you may not be able to relate to, but it is an essential form of communication for so many blacks in the US/UK in the same way as Fuji/Apala is essential to many real street niggas in south western Nigeria today.

You dont have to listen to Gangsta rap if you dont want to. Infact some of the biggest names in Rap have spoken against the gangsta ideals and tried to encourage street niggas to change.

2pac -I aint mad at ya/Changes, Nas - Not going back/Rewind,Dre -The Watcher(in a contrived way admittedly) Practically any Public Enemy Song, Common -War, Kendrick Lamar - MAAD City/Art of Peer Pressure, Eminem -When the music stops/Toy Soldiers are just a few songs off the top that I can list right now.

You need to educate yourself before misyarning all over the internet.

Hip-Hop lives!!!

Sheyzman: .
Go listen to crooked smile by j.Cole fvcktard

Its cool my Nigga..

'person huh? I see we are now down to calling each other names..

I aint even gonna play with you like that.

Thanks for reccomendation though, I will take it under advisement.

JEITO: Not only in Nigeria, but around the world. You need to adultrate ur songs with a bit of dance for it to sell cos the days of gangsterism and feud(which characterises hiphop and rap cultures) is long gone. #hiphop is dressing up...

Nihilist:
This is just an ignorant assertion especially considering that rap is essentially poetry over an instrumental..




More ignorance.... 2pac's classics Brenda's Got A Baby and Keep Ya Head Up immediately rubbish your assertions. Kendrick Lamar's Keisha's Song, J.Cole's Crooked Smile are a few songs from the golden era and current era of hip hop that come to mind.



Gangsta rap is just one genre of rap just as Metal is just a genre of Rock music. Gangsta rap offers a commentary and an inside view of the reality of life on the streets for many negroes in the western world. That life is something that you may not be able to relate to, but it is an essential form of communication for so many blacks in the US/UK in the same way as Fuji/Apala is essential to many real street niggas in south western Nigeria today.

You dont have to listen to Gangsta rap if you dont want to. Infact some of the biggest names in Rap have spoken against the gangsta ideals and tried to encourage street niggas to change.

2pac -I aint mad at ya/Changes, Nas - Not going back/Rewind,Dre -The Watcher(in a contrived way admittedly) Practically any Public Enemy Song, Common -War, Kendrick Lamar - MAAD City/Art of Peer Pressure, Eminem -When the music stops/Toy Soldiers are just a few songs off the top that I can list right now.

You need to educate yourself before misyarning all over the internet.

Hip-Hop lives!!!

musicwriter:

Are you a musician or just a music fan?.

Listen.

No matter the music you make, if you like you can create the best smashing hit, if the radio stations and TVs don't play it nobody will know you. Also if you like you can create rubbish but as long as the radio stations and TVs play it you would become famous overnight. Because 99.9% of people can only know their artistes from the radio and TVs. That's the way it is brother. Talking from experience.

Creamish:

Compare how much they sell to how much gibberish sells.....we're talking about high sales..not kobo-kobo... People who appreciate good rap music are relatively scarce...and "scarce-fans" cant get u anywhere in ur career. A typical naija guy is looking for sth he can dance Azonto to..how many good rap music can u dance to? Ppl who care about lyrics are gradually being converted to gibberish-hungry fans...

Sometimes i go to music shops looking for some good'ol Bone Thugs n Harmony, Tupac...and all i see are Timaya & Iyanya.... I guess no shop wants to record a loss so they basically buy and sell trash...

iceberylin:
Exactly

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BRAV0O: is better you dnt continue with this kind of mentality, you can equally ask yourself even if those artist at their peak are to pay all the tvs or radios for their music to be played everyday for fame will they gain anything from the album sells ? These ar the kind of mentality that bring kennis music down up to this days, make good music 1st bro! Make ur rap tyte... Try ur best make ever lasting rap song , can u tell me how many tyms most tupac song that as bein recycle since 90s brought bk to markets ? I understand you very well but medias are not to be blame for their lazy ass at all!

shymexx:

Perhaps you're alluding to the mainstream. However, real hip-hop/rap lives in the underground now. There are so many great underground rappers, but the problem is that they're too dark for the mainstream, and a lot of them also don't know how to make great music. To get radio-play, you have to be able to turn great rap into great music. Also, the politics, and the Jews who control the mainstream are the ones killing the culture. The society at large is also very dumb - and most times people have to dumb-it-down to be all to relate to the mainstream.

That said, there are still a few great rappers out there killing the mainstream. Kendrick Lamar, Ab Soul, Schoolboy Q, Drake(when he's rapping), Wale, J.Cole, Meek Mills, A$AP Rocky and the mob, Joey Bada$$ etc.. And a lot of the old school rappers are also still dropping bangers.

Gangstar rap is still alive...YG, Nipsey, and Troy Ave.

BRAV0O: I guess you know u're just saying this base on the kind of environment you expose to .. ? Right ... Go nd check history of those that make good rap music and real hiphop before jumping into this argument with me... How much did those dancing tune tunes we see this days sell? How much are they making ? Dnt let them carry you away with all thos pakaging videos is all lies! Just check history of how much those that make good rap music sells base on debut or singles first then let's start from there!

iceberylin:
BRO U JUst nailed it..Phenom was like "i Gat a Chick CV for a BL0w job"i just drop cap for the dude.
Young6 is even better. cause that export lyrics was really incredible...
he was like "i was made for this sh|t,u can call me diper" coll huh
phenom really need to be recognized, cause he's always representing... unlike ice..
i listened to TEARS FOR NAIJA
had to check if it was really done by iceprince...
WtF...dude was like.."if na ur sister i bomb, how u go feel..i for don follow the battalion "cant recall the exact words buh it was so wack compared to
Ashes by Mi abaga..

TyTymer:
Hmmm. Anything that appeals to an intended audience successfully is no longer trash.

Hip hop, at inception, was seen as trash by the connoisseurs of "organized" and "structured" music in America. But the target audience was "the street" and because of that orientation, Hip Hop succeeded. It was created by the street and for it.

I've given up trying (in my mind) to organize naija commercial music into proper structure. It is largely, musical chaos but the street (it's intended audience) accepts it wholeheartedly. Even Radio and Tv music channels love it.

In summary, it has (as 9ce would say) street credibility.

shymexx: Can someone please name all decent naij rappers?

I dunno man, the ones I've listened to don't even know what a 16 is...they don't use metaphors and similes...all they do is rhyme. And perhaps in M.I's case throw some vocabs in there. That's about it. Rap isn't just about rhyming.

I believe they all need to go study "The Art of Rap" and get back to the basics.

BRAV0O: is better you dnt continue with this kind of mentality, you can equally ask yourself even if those artist at their peak are to pay all the tvs or radios for their music to be played everyday for fame will they gain anything from the album sells ? These ar the kind of mentality that bring kennis music down up to this days, make good music 1st bro! Make ur rap tyte... Try ur best make ever lasting rap song , can u tell me how many tyms most tupac song that as bein recycle since 90s brought bk to markets ? I understand you very well but medias are not to be blame for their lazy ass at all!

oluamid:



Well, rap, just as with everything else appeals to taste. you may like the "bling bling bubble gum wrap" kinda rap while someone else may like "real rap". Rap is subjective.

I love Modenine's brand of rap.

By the way, listen to Upside Down by modenine ft Nnena Omali, and tell us how you feel.

JEITO: u might be right there but I don't want to blame the jews or politics. The truth Is that people's preferences have changed. Besides rap/hiphop have so much to do with black movement for acceptance or recognition as 1st class citizens also: a move that is no longer being pursued. Like u rightly said, some of the biggest names in rap today need to adultrate their music for it to gain acceptance. Therefore, there're no real hardcore rappers in mainstream(A-list) artiste anymore